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New Big-Y files needed

Jared Smith
 

Hello fellow Z16357 cousins! Things have been relatively quiet around here - no new matches in quite some time. Now's a great time to recruit those STR matches of ours = Big-Y is on sale for $475.

For Big-Y customers, you've probably seen that FTDNA has made notable updates to their Big-Y tools. There are some nice improvements (though still some issues they are working through).

FTDNA has also moved to a new Y-DNA reference - hg19 to hg38. At it's most basic level, this is an adjustment of the numeric values that are used to represent different 'markers' on the Y-chromosome. Z16357, for example, is a G to T allele change at position 22,512,912 when using the older hg19 reference, but it's G to T at position 20,351,026 using the hg38 reference. So all of the SNP and variant numbering at http://dna.smithplanet.com/snp will need to be updated. The new reference provides us some opportunity to find new shared or novel variants.

To update my research and reference numbers, I need your updated FTDNA Results and VCF files.

Please take a few moments to download and e-mail them to me. This will be incredibly helpful to our research.

1. Log in to FTDNA.
3. Click "Export Results" at the top right and save the .csv file
4. Click "Download Raw Data" at the top right.
5. Click "Download VCF" at the bottom and save the .zip file.
6. Attach both the .csv and .zip files to a new e-mail and send to me off-list - jared@...

Once I have everyone's updated results, I'll analyze them, update the web site, and let you know if I find anything interesting.

Thanks!

Jared Smith

Joel Hartley
 

Hi Jared,

 

Thanks for the email and thanks for your analyses.

 

The other file was too big. I’ll try in a separate email, but the message told me to put it in a shared location.

 

Joel

 

 

From: Z16357@groups.io [mailto:Z16357@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jared Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:44 PM
To: Z16357@groups.io
Subject: [Z16357] New Big-Y files needed

 

Hello fellow Z16357 cousins! Things have been relatively quiet around here - no new matches in quite some time. Now's a great time to recruit those STR matches of ours = Big-Y is on sale for $475.

 

For Big-Y customers, you've probably seen that FTDNA has made notable updates to their Big-Y tools. There are some nice improvements (though still some issues they are working through).

 

FTDNA has also moved to a new Y-DNA reference - hg19 to hg38. At it's most basic level, this is an adjustment of the numeric values that are used to represent different 'markers' on the Y-chromosome. Z16357, for example, is a G to T allele change at position 22,512,912 when using the older hg19 reference, but it's G to T at position 20,351,026 using the hg38 reference. So all of the SNP and variant numbering at http://dna.smithplanet.com/snp will need to be updated. The new reference provides us some opportunity to find new shared or novel variants.


To update my research and reference numbers, I need your updated FTDNA Results and VCF files.

 

Please take a few moments to download and e-mail them to me. This will be incredibly helpful to our research.

 

1. Log in to FTDNA.

3. Click "Export Results" at the top right and save the .csv file

4. Click "Download Raw Data" at the top right.

5. Click "Download VCF" at the bottom and save the .zip file.

6. Attach both the .csv and .zip files to a new e-mail and send to me off-list - jared@...

 

Once I have everyone's updated results, I'll analyze them, update the web site, and let you know if I find anything interesting.

 

Thanks!

 

Jared Smith

 

Joel Hartley
 

Yes, still no luck with the VCF. Any suggestions? I have used the Cloud through Microsoft, but only on a limited basis and am not very familiar with it. I also have my own website, but not sure how to share files with you.

 

Joel

 

From: Z16357@groups.io [mailto:Z16357@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jared Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:44 PM
To: Z16357@groups.io
Subject: [Z16357] New Big-Y files needed

 

Hello fellow Z16357 cousins! Things have been relatively quiet around here - no new matches in quite some time. Now's a great time to recruit those STR matches of ours = Big-Y is on sale for $475.

 

For Big-Y customers, you've probably seen that FTDNA has made notable updates to their Big-Y tools. There are some nice improvements (though still some issues they are working through).

 

FTDNA has also moved to a new Y-DNA reference - hg19 to hg38. At it's most basic level, this is an adjustment of the numeric values that are used to represent different 'markers' on the Y-chromosome. Z16357, for example, is a G to T allele change at position 22,512,912 when using the older hg19 reference, but it's G to T at position 20,351,026 using the hg38 reference. So all of the SNP and variant numbering at http://dna.smithplanet.com/snp will need to be updated. The new reference provides us some opportunity to find new shared or novel variants.


To update my research and reference numbers, I need your updated FTDNA Results and VCF files.

 

Please take a few moments to download and e-mail them to me. This will be incredibly helpful to our research.

 

1. Log in to FTDNA.

3. Click "Export Results" at the top right and save the .csv file

4. Click "Download Raw Data" at the top right.

5. Click "Download VCF" at the bottom and save the .zip file.

6. Attach both the .csv and .zip files to a new e-mail and send to me off-list - jared@...

 

Once I have everyone's updated results, I'll analyze them, update the web site, and let you know if I find anything interesting.

 

Thanks!

 

Jared Smith

 

James Bennett
 

Joel,

If by "Microsoft Cloud" you mean "One Drive", I believe if you store the file on your local OneDrive folder, you can "right-click" the file and chose "Share a OneDrive link".  That will but a link in your clipboard that you can paste into the e-mail.

HTH,
James

On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Joel Hartley <joel@...> wrote:

Yes, still no luck with the VCF. Any suggestions? I have used the Cloud through Microsoft, but only on a limited basis and am not very familiar with it. I also have my own website, but not sure how to share files with you.

 

Joel

 

From: Z16357@groups.io [mailto:Z16357@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jared Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:44 PM
To: Z16357@groups.io
Subject: [Z16357] New Big-Y files needed

 

Hello fellow Z16357 cousins! Things have been relatively quiet around here - no new matches in quite some time. Now's a great time to recruit those STR matches of ours = Big-Y is on sale for $475.

 

For Big-Y customers, you've probably seen that FTDNA has made notable updates to their Big-Y tools. There are some nice improvements (though still some issues they are working through).

 

FTDNA has also moved to a new Y-DNA reference - hg19 to hg38. At it's most basic level, this is an adjustment of the numeric values that are used to represent different 'markers' on the Y-chromosome. Z16357, for example, is a G to T allele change at position 22,512,912 when using the older hg19 reference, but it's G to T at position 20,351,026 using the hg38 reference. So all of the SNP and variant numbering at http://dna.smithplanet.com/snp will need to be updated. The new reference provides us some opportunity to find new shared or novel variants.


To update my research and reference numbers, I need your updated FTDNA Results and VCF files.

 

Please take a few moments to download and e-mail them to me. This will be incredibly helpful to our research.

 

1. Log in to FTDNA.

3. Click "Export Results" at the top right and save the .csv file

4. Click "Download Raw Data" at the top right.

5. Click "Download VCF" at the bottom and save the .zip file.

6. Attach both the .csv and .zip files to a new e-mail and send to me off-list - jared@...

 

Once I have everyone's updated results, I'll analyze them, update the web site, and let you know if I find anything interesting.

 

Thanks!

 

Jared Smith

 


Joel Hartley
 

Hi James,

 

I guess I’m underutilizing this:

 

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgUuC5wLrF2Ogy40BVWOsivXYYgD

 

Hope you get it (and that it is the right file).

 

Joel

 

From: Z16357@groups.io [mailto:Z16357@groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bennett
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 11:23 AM
To: Z16357@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Z16357] New Big-Y files needed

 

Joel,

 

If by "Microsoft Cloud" you mean "One Drive", I believe if you store the file on your local OneDrive folder, you can "right-click" the file and chose "Share a OneDrive link".  That will but a link in your clipboard that you can paste into the e-mail.

 

HTH,

James

 

On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Joel Hartley <joel@...> wrote:

Yes, still no luck with the VCF. Any suggestions? I have used the Cloud through Microsoft, but only on a limited basis and am not very familiar with it. I also have my own website, but not sure how to share files with you.

 

Joel

 

From: Z16357@groups.io [mailto:Z16357@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jared Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:44 PM
To: Z16357@groups.io
Subject: [Z16357] New Big-Y files needed

 

Hello fellow Z16357 cousins! Things have been relatively quiet around here - no new matches in quite some time. Now's a great time to recruit those STR matches of ours = Big-Y is on sale for $475.

 

For Big-Y customers, you've probably seen that FTDNA has made notable updates to their Big-Y tools. There are some nice improvements (though still some issues they are working through).

 

FTDNA has also moved to a new Y-DNA reference - hg19 to hg38. At it's most basic level, this is an adjustment of the numeric values that are used to represent different 'markers' on the Y-chromosome. Z16357, for example, is a G to T allele change at position 22,512,912 when using the older hg19 reference, but it's G to T at position 20,351,026 using the hg38 reference. So all of the SNP and variant numbering at http://dna.smithplanet.com/snp will need to be updated. The new reference provides us some opportunity to find new shared or novel variants.


To update my research and reference numbers, I need your updated FTDNA Results and VCF files.

 

Please take a few moments to download and e-mail them to me. This will be incredibly helpful to our research.

 

1. Log in to FTDNA.

3. Click "Export Results" at the top right and save the .csv file

4. Click "Download Raw Data" at the top right.

5. Click "Download VCF" at the bottom and save the .zip file.

6. Attach both the .csv and .zip files to a new e-mail and send to me off-list - jared@...

 

Once I have everyone's updated results, I'll analyze them, update the web site, and let you know if I find anything interesting.

 

Thanks!

 

Jared Smith

 

 

Jared Smith
 

Hi all! I hope you had a wonderful holiday season and I wish you all
the best in this new year!

I'm still in need of quite a few new Build 38 files to update my
analysis. I've received Raw Data files for the following:
- J Hartley
- C Hays
- Bennett

I know there were some difficulties with the file size of the Raw Data
file, which is the critical one for my analysis. Fortunately, I've
discovered a much easier way to get the Raw Data file that doesn't
involve you downloading it at all:

1. Log in to familytreedna.com
2. Go to https://www.familytreedna.com/my/big-y (or click MyFTDNA...
Big-Y... Matches)
3. Select the "Download Raw Data" button near the top right of the screen.
4. Right-click on the green "Download VCF" (NOT "Download BAM") button
at the bottom of the screen, and select "Copy Link Address". This menu
options might also be called "Copy Link Location" or similar,
depending on the browser you're using.
5. Reply to this message (or a private e-mail just to me, if you
prefer) and paste (Control or Command + V) in the long web site
address, then send to me.

It would be very helpful for our project if you could send this to me.

I also strongly encourage you to share your Raw Data file to the new
Y-DNA Data Warehouse. This will allow other researchers to analyze the
data to help build our tree. Instructions are at
http://haplogroup-r.org/instructions.html You use the same copied Link
Address as above, so it's very easy to submit.

Thanks,

Jared

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Joel Hartley <joel@...> wrote:
Hi James,



I guess I’m underutilizing this:



https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgUuC5wLrF2Ogy40BVWOsivXYYgD



Hope you get it (and that it is the right file).



Joel



From: Z16357@groups.io [mailto:Z16357@groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bennett
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 11:23 AM
To: Z16357@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Z16357] New Big-Y files needed



Joel,



If by "Microsoft Cloud" you mean "One Drive", I believe if you store the
file on your local OneDrive folder, you can "right-click" the file and chose
"Share a OneDrive link". That will but a link in your clipboard that you
can paste into the e-mail.



HTH,

James



On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Joel Hartley <joel@...> wrote:

Yes, still no luck with the VCF. Any suggestions? I have used the Cloud
through Microsoft, but only on a limited basis and am not very familiar with
it. I also have my own website, but not sure how to share files with you.



Joel



From: Z16357@groups.io [mailto:Z16357@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jared Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:44 PM
To: Z16357@groups.io
Subject: [Z16357] New Big-Y files needed



Hello fellow Z16357 cousins! Things have been relatively quiet around here -
no new matches in quite some time. Now's a great time to recruit those STR
matches of ours = Big-Y is on sale for $475.



For Big-Y customers, you've probably seen that FTDNA has made notable
updates to their Big-Y tools. There are some nice improvements (though still
some issues they are working through).



FTDNA has also moved to a new Y-DNA reference - hg19 to hg38. At it's most
basic level, this is an adjustment of the numeric values that are used to
represent different 'markers' on the Y-chromosome. Z16357, for example, is a
G to T allele change at position 22,512,912 when using the older hg19
reference, but it's G to T at position 20,351,026 using the hg38 reference.
So all of the SNP and variant numbering at http://dna.smithplanet.com/snp
will need to be updated. The new reference provides us some opportunity to
find new shared or novel variants.


To update my research and reference numbers, I need your updated FTDNA
Results and VCF files.



Please take a few moments to download and e-mail them to me. This will be
incredibly helpful to our research.



1. Log in to FTDNA.

2. Go to https://www.familytreedna.com/my/big-y

3. Click "Export Results" at the top right and save the .csv file

4. Click "Download Raw Data" at the top right.

5. Click "Download VCF" at the bottom and save the .zip file.

6. Attach both the .csv and .zip files to a new e-mail and send to me
off-list - jared@...



Once I have everyone's updated results, I'll analyze them, update the web
site, and let you know if I find anything interesting.



Thanks!



Jared Smith





Thomas Goff
 

Hello Jared,

Happy new year and hope you are well!


It looks like the link you sent are for those who have done the Big-Y test. I haven't taken Big-Y, but I have attached an image of what is available for my download. Please let me know if any of these are useful.

Thanks,
Tom


Inline image


On Sunday, January 7, 2018, 7:01:29 PM EST, Jared Smith <jared@...> wrote:


Hi all! I hope you had a wonderful holiday season and I wish you all
the best in this new year!

I'm still in need of quite a few new Build 38 files to update my
analysis. I've received Raw Data files for the following:
- J Hartley
- C Hays
- Bennett

I know there were some difficulties with the file size of the Raw Data
file, which is the critical one for my analysis. Fortunately, I've
discovered a much easier way to get the Raw Data file that doesn't
involve you downloading it at all:

1. Log in to familytreedna.com
2. Go to https://www.familytreedna.com/my/big-y (or click MyFTDNA...
Big-Y... Matches)
3. Select the "Download Raw Data" button near the top right of the screen.
4. Right-click on the green "Download VCF" (NOT "Download BAM") button
at the bottom of the screen, and select "Copy Link Address". This menu
options might also be called "Copy Link Location" or similar,
depending on the browser you're using.
5. Reply to this message (or a private e-mail just to me, if you
prefer) and paste (Control or Command + V) in the long web site
address, then send to me.

It would be very helpful for our project if you could send this to me.

I also strongly encourage you to share your Raw Data file to the new
Y-DNA Data Warehouse. This will allow other researchers to analyze the
data to help build our tree. Instructions are at
http://haplogroup-r.org/instructions.html You use the same copied Link
Address as above, so it's very easy to submit.

Thanks,

Jared

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Joel Hartley <joel@...> wrote:
> Hi James,
>
>
>
> I guess I’m underutilizing this:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hope you get it (and that it is the right file).
>
>
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> From: Z16357@groups.io [mailto:Z16357@groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bennett
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Z16357] New Big-Y files needed
>
>
>
> Joel,
>
>
>
> If by "Microsoft Cloud" you mean "One Drive", I believe if you store the
> file on your local OneDrive folder, you can "right-click" the file and chose
> "Share a OneDrive link".  That will but a link in your clipboard that you
> can paste into the e-mail.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> James
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Joel Hartley <joel@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, still no luck with the VCF. Any suggestions? I have used the Cloud
> through Microsoft, but only on a limited basis and am not very familiar with
> it. I also have my own website, but not sure how to share files with you.
>
>
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> From: Z16357@groups.io [mailto:Z16357@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jared Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:44 PM
> Subject: [Z16357] New Big-Y files needed
>
>
>
> Hello fellow Z16357 cousins! Things have been relatively quiet around here -
> no new matches in quite some time. Now's a great time to recruit those STR
> matches of ours = Big-Y is on sale for $475.
>
>
>
> For Big-Y customers, you've probably seen that FTDNA has made notable
> updates to their Big-Y tools. There are some nice improvements (though still
> some issues they are working through).
>
>
>
> FTDNA has also moved to a new Y-DNA reference - hg19 to hg38. At it's most
> basic level, this is an adjustment of the numeric values that are used to
> represent different 'markers' on the Y-chromosome. Z16357, for example, is a
> G to T allele change at position 22,512,912 when using the older hg19
> reference, but it's G to T at position 20,351,026 using the hg38 reference.
> So all of the SNP and variant numbering at http://dna.smithplanet.com/snp
> will need to be updated. The new reference provides us some opportunity to
> find new shared or novel variants.
>
>
> To update my research and reference numbers, I need your updated FTDNA
> Results and VCF files.
>
>
>
> Please take a few moments to download and e-mail them to me. This will be
> incredibly helpful to our research.
>
>
>
> 1. Log in to FTDNA.
>
>
> 3. Click "Export Results" at the top right and save the .csv file
>
> 4. Click "Download Raw Data" at the top right.
>
> 5. Click "Download VCF" at the bottom and save the .zip file.
>
> 6. Attach both the .csv and .zip files to a new e-mail and send to me
> off-list - jared@...
>
>
>
> Once I have everyone's updated results, I'll analyze them, update the web
> site, and let you know if I find anything interesting.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Jared Smith
>
>
>
>
>
>


Jared Smith
 

Thomas -

That is correct. This is only for those that have done the Big-Y test. If any new SNP testing looks viable for you after the analysis, I'll certainly let you know.

Thanks,

Jared

Thomas Goff
 

Thanks, sounds good.

btw, forgot to mention. I took advantage of some sales on other DNA testing. My 23andme test are in and waiting for Ancestry.com results.  Let me know if you are interested with these results.

Best,
Tom 

On Monday, January 8, 2018, 10:20:48 AM EST, Jared Smith <jared@...> wrote:


Thomas -

That is correct. This is only for those that have done the Big-Y test. If any new SNP testing looks viable for you after the analysis, I'll certainly let you know.

Thanks,

Jared

Jared Smith
 

I'd certainly recommend that anyone that has done autosomal testing to
upload their results to GedMatch.com. This site provides a great way
to find matches from all of the major testing companies. If you've not
used it, I wrote a tutorial that may be helpful -
http://smithplanet.com/stuff/gedmatch.htm

It would be a good idea to check your GedMatch one-to-many list for
the surnames of folks in this group. It's most likely that our shared
direct male line ancestors are too far back to have shared autosomal
DNA from them, but it's possible we're related in other ways.

Thanks,

Jared

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Thomas Goff <thomasgoff94@...> wrote:
Thanks, sounds good.

btw, forgot to mention. I took advantage of some sales on other DNA testing.
My 23andme test are in and waiting for Ancestry.com results. Let me know if
you are interested with these results.

Best,
Tom

On Monday, January 8, 2018, 10:20:48 AM EST, Jared Smith
<jared@...> wrote:


Thomas -

That is correct. This is only for those that have done the Big-Y test. If
any new SNP testing looks viable for you after the analysis, I'll certainly
let you know.

Thanks,

Jared

Charles Thomas
 

Hello Jared, Thomas, and everyone,

I've found the Matching Segment Search very helpful at Gedmatch.com. It's available via the Tier 1 utilities which requires a $10 fee for one month's access. It's helpful in finding others who match at the same segment and therefore have a shared ancestor/ancestral couple. It can be tricky, however, determining which match is from which copy (maternal or paternal) of the particular chromosome unless one has a parent whose results can be "phased" against your own.

Best wishes for the new year,

Charles Thomas




From: Z16357@groups.io <Z16357@groups.io> on behalf of Jared Smith <jared@...>
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 10:10 AM
To: Z16357@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Z16357] New Big-Y files needed
 
I'd certainly recommend that anyone that has done autosomal testing to
upload their results to GedMatch.com. This site provides a great way
to find matches from all of the major testing companies. If you've not
used it, I wrote a tutorial that may be helpful -
http://smithplanet.com/stuff/gedmatch.htm
smithplanet.com
Genetic Genealogy using GEDmatch An Absolute Beginners Guide. by Jared Smith. Please contact me if you have any corrections or clarifications. Overview



It would be a good idea to check your GedMatch one-to-many list for
the surnames of folks in this group. It's most likely that our shared
direct male line ancestors are too far back to have shared autosomal
DNA from them, but it's possible we're related in other ways.

Thanks,

Jared


On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Thomas Goff <thomasgoff94@...> wrote:
> Thanks, sounds good.
>
> btw, forgot to mention. I took advantage of some sales on other DNA testing.
> My 23andme test are in and waiting for Ancestry.com results.  Let me know if
> you are interested with these results.
>
> Best,
> Tom
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2018, 10:20:48 AM EST, Jared Smith
> <jared@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thomas -
>
> That is correct. This is only for those that have done the Big-Y test. If
> any new SNP testing looks viable for you after the analysis, I'll certainly
> let you know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jared
>
>



Thomas Goff
 

Hi again, thanks for the tutorial.

I had a few reasons to try the others --

23andme: Jokingly, for several years my wife and I have disputed who had more Neanderthal DNA. She is from Eastern Europe and my maternal line is Portuguese, so with remains found in Croatia and the Iberian peninsula, we had a friendly competition. We put to rest that she indeed does have more variants, 287 and 271 for me. Over 300 is considered high and 23andme highest results were 397. However, not sure I really came out ahead in this? LOL  It also provides some health traits that I'm still looking in to. Another interesting difference I liked was the ancestry timeline. See the link provided if your interested.

AncestryDNA: It was only $54 on black Friday and I'm hoping its ethnicity estimate provides more insight than the others.

I came across this article on the differences between all the DNA studies.










On Monday, January 8, 2018, 11:11:03 AM EST, Jared Smith <jared@...> wrote:


I'd certainly recommend that anyone that has done autosomal testing to
upload their results to GedMatch.com. This site provides a great way
to find matches from all of the major testing companies. If you've not
used it, I wrote a tutorial that may be helpful -
http://smithplanet.com/stuff/gedmatch.htm

It would be a good idea to check your GedMatch one-to-many list for
the surnames of folks in this group. It's most likely that our shared
direct male line ancestors are too far back to have shared autosomal
DNA from them, but it's possible we're related in other ways.

Thanks,

Jared


On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Thomas Goff <thomasgoff94@...> wrote:
> Thanks, sounds good.
>
> btw, forgot to mention. I took advantage of some sales on other DNA testing.
> My 23andme test are in and waiting for Ancestry.com results.  Let me know if
> you are interested with these results.
>
> Best,
> Tom
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2018, 10:20:48 AM EST, Jared Smith
> <jared@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thomas -
>
> That is correct. This is only for those that have done the Big-Y test. If
> any new SNP testing looks viable for you after the analysis, I'll certainly
> let you know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jared
>
>