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Finally received an image...

Dallas Vanselow KC8HQS <kc8hqs@...>
 

I received this picture yesterday. I think it's from ARISSat. Other images I have seen have the callsign on the top left but I think I started receiving it late. Has anybody else seen this one?

73,

Dale KC8HQS





Sent from my BlackBerry via Cincinnati Bell Wireless.


Re: ARISSat-1 SSTV

RobertCGRO <robertcgro@...>
 

Hi Les,

I auto captured 3 ARISSAT/RADIOSKAF images last night. Two had the RS01S idents the other was missing it. All about about a Q3 copy and the times were 8 August 0828Z, 1006Z and 1143Z. Using Audacity to view the wav file that Scanner Recorder creates, I roughly calculated the bird's or spin rate at around 10 RPM give or take 1 but that's just from using the time marks of Audacity and marking the peaks and troughs of the audio waveform (which have a repetive period) and counting the number of those over so many seconds. I had 3 in 18 seconds so that's 1 roll in 6 seconds or 10 in 60s. I'd like to see the experts do the real math and tell me if I'm close or not. I'll continue to work out the roll rates over time and see if they change.

I'm limited in my mathematical ability but I figure that charting rolls rates would be an interesting and worthwhile project. I switch to a non-circularly polarized antenna for this purpose. For SSTV/voice imaging (and APRS with the ISS (via UISS software) I'm normally using a Turnstile and 2m preamp. Anyone come up with a roll rateer figure by some other means? I just thought that the sound file method with Audacity was an obvious method with less math involved.

I agree that this is way too cool. I wasn't around for Sputnik and I can't imagine what it was like in those simpler times. Since I also do astronomy, this is the best of both worlds! The Perseids are peaking August 12 and the ISS may show up in the images with some meteor trails to go with. While ARRISAT is perhaps too small to visually see, it should show up in CCD images. It's been too humid and hot to and hazy to do any imaging this summer but I'h hoping that it cools down in the next few days, at least for the Perseids.

73,
Robert, VA3ROM
http://my.tbyatel.net/va3rom

--- In Work-Sat@yahoogroups.com, "Les" <kc0pto@...> wrote:

Thanks Robert. Coincidentally, last night I had tried to get the
antoninoporcino one to work, with no luck. I then found the Scanner
Recorder link after some Goggling, and downloaded it. It was late, so I
haven't had a chance to try it yet. Glad to hear it is a winner! Will
give it a try tomorrow on the next passes. I managed to receive two
more pictures this morning on two different passes. One was a complete
picture, almost as good as my first one yesterday. The other one was a
partial picture, bird must have gone LOS before it finished. Both were
fairly decent, but a little noisy. They were the same picture that I
got yesterday. Hoping for some variety, like a earth view or something.

Les KC0PTO


--- In Work-Sat@yahoogroups.com, "RobertCGRO" <robertcgro@> wrote:

I use Scanner Recorder http://www.davee.com/scanrec/ (free version)
and it has no problems sharing the sound card with MMSSTV. Albeit, I
found that the best setup is with my SignaLink USB external soundcard
using the data port on my FT857 so you can hear speaker audio and I feed
the speaker AF out from the SignLink back to my laptop's mic input.

Alternatively, use an audio Y-splitter cable to have to output jacks
and use one for an external speaker. I've used this method for radios
with no data ports.

A "Pro" version of Scanner Recorder is also available with a lot more
features.

Have fun!

73,
Robert, VA3ROM
http://my.tbaytel.net/va3rom


ARISSat-1 DM13 08/08 0642GMT

K6LCS <clintbrad4d@...>
 

Wow - that was exciting! First the computer voice with the stats ... then that LONG two minutes of silence ... then the young girl, then the Japanese greeting!

WAY TOO COOL!

Clint


Re: ARISSat-1

fejohnso
 

Les:  If I turn the squelch knob to the Rt, the background noise goes away. If I turn it to the Left, the noise comes back.  I set it so that I have the noise just coming out of the speaker.  I then turn the Volume down so that we cant hear the radio in the other room. I had never received a SSTV  signal before nor had I operated the program before. It is all new to me.  I wasn't even sure that I had HRD set up correctly to get a picture so I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the picture the next morning.

Forrest, KC9JFX


--- On Sun, 8/7/11, Les wrote:

From: Les
Subject: [Work-Sat] Re: ARISSat-1
To: Work-Sat@...
Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 5:10 PM

 

Forrest, I don't quite understand the "just making static" quote.  On any transceiver I've had, the squelch is either on or off.  I have received 3 pictures now on 3 different passes by setting my levels using the white noise with the squelch off, and then turning the squelch just below where it cuts off the signal.  Used the transceiver volume control to set the level into MMSSTV.  Or you could use the computer volume control to set the level.

Les KC0PTO  



--- In Work-Sat@..., "fejohnso" wrote:
>
> Finally received two images from ARISSat-1 last nite after I went to bed. I am using HRD,SIGNALINK-USB and 2m/70cm Arrow J-pole mounted about 20Ft up. Had the IC-746Pro set on freq with the squelch turned down so it was just making static. Volume set low, and just left the laptop running the HRD program. Question, do I really need the squelch turned on or do I really need it to make noise all nite?
>
> Forrest, KC9JFX
>


Re: ARISSat-1 Keps for Sunday

K6LCS <clintbrad4d@...>
 

Or, of course, our very own site at ...

http://tinyurl.com/ARISSAT1-STATUS

Clint

... For those without tracking software you can go here ...


Re: ARISSat-1 Keps for Sunday

wf6j
 

Thanks!

For those without tracking software you can go here: http://www.arissat1.com/

--- In Work-Sat@yahoogroups.com, "K6LCS" <clintbrad4d@...> wrote:

RADIOSCAF-B
1 37772U 98067CK 11219.20413008 .00027598 00000-0 33081-3 0 88
2 37772 051.6390 263.9529 0013229 054.4740 053.2135 15.60616791 459


Re: ARISSat-1

Les <kc0pto@...>
 

Forrest, I don't quite understand the "just making static" quote.  On any transceiver I've had, the squelch is either on or off.  I have received 3 pictures now on 3 different passes by setting my levels using the white noise with the squelch off, and then turning the squelch just below where it cuts off the signal.  Used the transceiver volume control to set the level into MMSSTV.  Or you could use the computer volume control to set the level.

Les KC0PTO  



--- In Work-Sat@..., "fejohnso" >
> Finally received two images from ARISSat-1 last nite after I went to bed. I am using HRD,SIGNALINK-USB and 2m/70cm Arrow J-pole mounted about 20Ft up. Had the IC-746Pro set on freq with the squelch turned down so it was just making static. Volume set low, and just left the laptop running the HRD program. Question, do I really need the squelch turned on or do I really need it to make noise all nite?
>
> Forrest, KC9JFX
>


Re: ARISSat-1 SSTV

Les <kc0pto@...>
 

Thanks Robert.  Coincidentally, last night I had tried to get the  antoninoporcino one to work, with no luck.  I then found the Scanner Recorder link after some Goggling, and downloaded it.  It was late, so I haven't had a chance to try it yet.  Glad to hear it is a winner!  Will give it a try tomorrow on the next passes.  I managed to receive two more pictures this morning on two different passes.  One was a complete picture, almost as good as my first one yesterday.  The other one was a partial picture, bird must have gone LOS before it finished.  Both were fairly decent, but a little noisy.  They were the same picture that I got yesterday.  Hoping for some variety, like a earth view or something.

Les KC0PTO 



--- In Work-Sat@..., "RobertCGRO" wrote:
>
> I use Scanner Recorder http://www.davee.com/scanrec/ (free version)
> and it has no problems sharing the sound card with MMSSTV. Albeit, I found that the best setup is with my SignaLink USB external soundcard using the data port on my FT857 so you can hear speaker audio and I feed the speaker AF out from the SignLink back to my laptop's mic input.
>
> Alternatively, use an audio Y-splitter cable to have to output jacks and use one for an external speaker. I've used this method for radios with no data ports.
>
> A "Pro" version of Scanner Recorder is also available with a lot more features.
>
> Have fun!
>
> 73,
> Robert, VA3ROM
> http://my.tbaytel.net/va3rom
>
>
> --- In Work-Sat@..., "Les" kc0pto@ wrote:
> >
> > Here is the link: http://antoninoporcino.xoom.it/VoxRecorder/
> >
> > I havent tried to get it to work yet. Looks like you have to set up
> > your Windows soundcard to record, which is something I don't know how to
> > do yet. Will have to figure that out. I'm betting it won't work while
> > MMSSTV is using the soundcard.
> >
> > Les KC0pTO
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Work-Sat@..., Dave wrote:
> > >
> > > Les:
> > > What is the name of the VOX program you downloaded? I have been
> > > looking for one.
> > >
> > > Dave - WB6DHW
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/6/2011 8:52 PM, Les wrote:
> > > >
> > > > *No, nothing "special". I just have a mini phone plug jumper cord
> > > > going from my FT-7800 to the audio in jack on my computer, and the
> > > > MMSSTV set-up to monitor the computers on board sound card. I set
> > the
> > > > squelch on the transceiver just above threshold, and set MMSSTV for
> > > > auto detect for mode. Since I was asleep when this was received, I
> > > > don't know if the level was set too low or too high. I preset the
> > > > level so that the no signal noise when the squelch is below
> > threshold,
> > > > the level indicator on MMSSTV was about mid-scale, and not into the
> > red.
> > > >
> > > > The only thing I don't like about this set up is that I can't hear
> > > > the audio being received, since the Xcvr speaker is muted when the
> > > > phone plug is inserted. So I could miss data transmissions because
> > > > the MMSSTV would not respond to them. I have a VOX software program
> > I
> > > > recently downloaded that will record audio information to the
> > computer
> > > > HD only when audio is received. I want to record some of the
> > > > ARISSat-1 data audio, but I don't think I can have two software
> > > > programs on the same sound card output at the same time. Or can I?
> > > > Anyone with more computer savvy than my meager knowledge might let
> > me
> > > > know if this is possible.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Les KC0PTO
> > > >
> > > > A few years ago I use this same technique to receive several SSTV
> > > > pictures from the ISS.
> > > >
> > > > *
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: recieving SSTV from ARISSat-1

Les <kc0pto@...>
 

I would recommend you use line in.  Mike in has a lot of gain that you don't need.  I set my outp[ut level wit no signal by turning the squelch off, and set receiver output level so that the white noise makes the MMSSTV receive level indicator go about half scale.  Then set the squelch just below where it cuts off the audio.  I received two more pictures this morning, again while I was asleep, so I don't know just where the level was during receive.  But it seems to work out pretty good for my setup, which is very similar to yours except for different radio and antenna. 

Good Luck!

Les KC0PTO   

--- In Work-Sat@..., "Jim Cameron \"KC9PXZ\"" wrote:
> Some web sites say use the line in on the sound card others say to use the mic in, is there really a diffrence? As long as my PC can "hear" my radio I think I am good. thoughts? Does any body know if there is a way I can test the way I set things up "before" the next pass? That was I would know things were working. I did look in HRD and I dont see ARISSat-1, Thanks for the tip Les.
>
> 73
> KC9PXZ
> Jimmy
>


Re: ARISSat-1 SSTV

RobertCGRO <robertcgro@...>
 

I use Scanner Recorder http://www.davee.com/scanrec/ (free version)
and it has no problems sharing the sound card with MMSSTV. Albeit, I found that the best setup is with my SignaLink USB external soundcard using the data port on my FT857 so you can hear speaker audio and I feed the speaker AF out from the SignLink back to my laptop's mic input.

Alternatively, use an audio Y-splitter cable to have to output jacks and use one for an external speaker. I've used this method for radios with no data ports.

A "Pro" version of Scanner Recorder is also available with a lot more features.

Have fun!

73,
Robert, VA3ROM
http://my.tbaytel.net/va3rom

--- In Work-Sat@yahoogroups.com, "Les" <kc0pto@...> wrote:

Here is the link: http://antoninoporcino.xoom.it/VoxRecorder/
<http://antoninoporcino.xoom.it/VoxRecorder/>
I havent tried to get it to work yet. Looks like you have to set up
your Windows soundcard to record, which is something I don't know how to
do yet. Will have to figure that out. I'm betting it won't work while
MMSSTV is using the soundcard.

Les KC0pTO



--- In Work-Sat@yahoogroups.com, Dave <dave@> wrote:

Les:
What is the name of the VOX program you downloaded? I have been
looking for one.

Dave - WB6DHW
<http://wb6dhw.com>

On 8/6/2011 8:52 PM, Les wrote:

*No, nothing "special". I just have a mini phone plug jumper cord
going from my FT-7800 to the audio in jack on my computer, and the
MMSSTV set-up to monitor the computers on board sound card. I set
the
squelch on the transceiver just above threshold, and set MMSSTV for
auto detect for mode. Since I was asleep when this was received, I
don't know if the level was set too low or too high. I preset the
level so that the no signal noise when the squelch is below
threshold,
the level indicator on MMSSTV was about mid-scale, and not into the
red.

The only thing I don't like about this set up is that I can't hear
the audio being received, since the Xcvr speaker is muted when the
phone plug is inserted. So I could miss data transmissions because
the MMSSTV would not respond to them. I have a VOX software program
I
recently downloaded that will record audio information to the
computer
HD only when audio is received. I want to record some of the
ARISSat-1 data audio, but I don't think I can have two software
programs on the same sound card output at the same time. Or can I?
Anyone with more computer savvy than my meager knowledge might let
me
know if this is possible.

Thanks
Les KC0PTO

A few years ago I use this same technique to receive several SSTV
pictures from the ISS.

*


Re: ARISSat-1 SSTV

Jim Cameron
 

yes i relize what your saying. I do have a verital I can turn the hook up to my H.T. I will try that to. I thought it would be easyr this way to set up the software being as i dont have a laptop and my desk top well is hard to move outside the diemound is up 50 feet on the tower I would not even waht to try and line the diemound up its a 17 feet long antenna and it would win Hi Hi 
73
kc9pxz
Jimmy

----- Original Message -----
From: K6LCS
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 9:32 PM
Subject: [Work-Sat] Re: ARISSat-1 SSTV

 

>> ... how well it could be done with a vertiail antenna ...

Just know the "pattern" of a vertical - essentially, the transmitted and received signals are best accomplished when that vertical is perpendicular to your target. SO - an GREAT pass for others with handheld Yagis won;t be as good for my neighbor with a vertical on the chimney - because directly above a vertical can be darned near a "null" point.

If your vertical is within reach, angling it so that it "hits" the sat's orbit makes for a better contact.

Keep us informed - what a great week for experimenting!

Clint


recieving SSTV from ARISSat-1

Jim Cameron
 

I always wanted to try SSTV. So here is a good chance.
 
I don't have a fancy recieve interface, what I am using is a Icom  IC28H with a diemound 510 dualbander feed by RG8 ant 50 ft.
 
I am using AMSAT perdict to track ARISSat-1. and MMSSTV software to recieve SSTV . LIke I said my "homebrew" recieve interface is a cable that goes from the speacker out in the back of the radio to the line in on my sound card. I also can put a small mic next to the speacker I have pluged into the back of my IC28H that goes to the line in on my sound card. Some  web sites say use the line in on the sound card others say to use the mic in, is there really a diffrence? As long as my PC can "hear" my radio I think I am good. thoughts?  Does any body know if there is a way I can test the way I set things up "before" the next pass? That was I would know things were working. I did look in HRD and I dont see ARISSat-1, Thanks for the tip Les.
 
73
KC9PXZ
Jimmy


ARISSat-1 Keps for Sunday

K6LCS <clintbrad4d@...>
 

RADIOSCAF-B
1 37772U 98067CK 11219.20413008 .00027598 00000-0 33081-3 0 88
2 37772 051.6390 263.9529 0013229 054.4740 053.2135 15.60616791 459


Re: ARISSat-1

K6LCS <clintbrad4d@...>
 

Finally received two images from ARISSat-1 ...
Outstanding!

... do I really need the squelch turned on or do I really need it to make noise all nite?
Although grounds for divorce in some states (grin), we ARE talking about a weak signal from 2-500 out there ... How about just turning the volume down - but keeping SQ open!

Clint


ARISSat-1

fejohnso
 

Finally received two images from ARISSat-1 last nite after I went to bed. I am using HRD,SIGNALINK-USB and 2m/70cm Arrow J-pole mounted about 20Ft up. Had the IC-746Pro set on freq with the squelch turned down so it was just making static. Volume set low, and just left the laptop running the HRD program. Question, do I really need the squelch turned on or do I really need it to make noise all nite?

Forrest, KC9JFX


Re: Juno and ARISSat-1 Keps

Greg DeChant <gcdechant@...>
 

Hi Chris!

 

How about before the Keps. For that satellite were added to the downloadable file?

 

From: Work-Sat@... [mailto:Work-Sat@...] On Behalf Of Chris Clardy
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 6:41 AM
To: Work-Sat@...
Subject: [Work-Sat] Re: Juno and ARISSat-1 Keps

 

 

You don't have too enter any keps. In Orbitron, make sure you have the box checked next to Radioskaf-B,

click on the little crossed hammers in the main menu. A new window will open. click "update TLE", then click on the little globe on the upper right of the window. Orbitron will load the latest keps for all the birds(including  ARRISat-1)from Celestrak.

  Chris Clardy KF5AFN


No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1391 / Virus Database: 1520/3818 - Release Date: 08/07/11


ARISSAT-1(Radioskaf-B)

Chris Clardy
 

Wow, great pass over western Oklahoma, long pass and 70 degree elevation copied the bird out over the gulf. Lost it just as it was approaching the NW tip of Cuba. Twin mirrored J-Poles @ 40' but the bird is definitely tumbling, got to get to work on a small RHCP crossed Yagi.

Chris Clardy KF5AFN


Re: Juno and ARISSat-1 Keps

Chris Clardy
 

Sorry, I was doing that from memory, they are not crossed hammers, it's a hammer and a wrench crossed.
And it's not "Update TLE", the button says "TLE UPDATER".
Just copied several packets from ARRISAT-1's last pass and didn't have MSSTV running.

Chris (kicking myself) Clardy KF5AFN


Re: Juno and ARISSat-1 Keps

Chris Clardy
 

You don't have too enter any keps. In Orbitron, make sure you have the box checked next to Radioskaf-B,
click on the little crossed hammers in the main menu. A new window will open. click "update TLE", then click on the little globe on the upper right of the window. Orbitron will load the latest keps for all the birds(including  ARRISat-1)from Celestrak.
  Chris Clardy KF5AFN


Re: ARISSat-1 SSTV

Les <kc0pto@...>
 

Here is the link:  http://antoninoporcino.xoom.it/VoxRecorder/
I havent tried to get it to work yet.  Looks like you have to set up your Windows soundcard to record, which is something I don't know how to do yet.  Will have to figure that out.  I'm betting it won't work while MMSSTV is using the soundcard.

Les  KC0pTO



--- In Work-Sat@..., Dave wrote:
>
> Les:
> What is the name of the VOX program you downloaded? I have been
> looking for one.
>
> Dave - WB6DHW
>
>
> On 8/6/2011 8:52 PM, Les wrote:
> >
> > *No, nothing "special". I just have a mini phone plug jumper cord
> > going from my FT-7800 to the audio in jack on my computer, and the
> > MMSSTV set-up to monitor the computers on board sound card. I set the
> > squelch on the transceiver just above threshold, and set MMSSTV for
> > auto detect for mode. Since I was asleep when this was received, I
> > don't know if the level was set too low or too high. I preset the
> > level so that the no signal noise when the squelch is below threshold,
> > the level indicator on MMSSTV was about mid-scale, and not into the red.
> >
> > The only thing I don't like about this set up is that I can't hear
> > the audio being received, since the Xcvr speaker is muted when the
> > phone plug is inserted. So I could miss data transmissions because
> > the MMSSTV would not respond to them. I have a VOX software program I
> > recently downloaded that will record audio information to the computer
> > HD only when audio is received. I want to record some of the
> > ARISSat-1 data audio, but I don't think I can have two software
> > programs on the same sound card output at the same time. Or can I?
> > Anyone with more computer savvy than my meager knowledge might let me
> > know if this is possible.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Les KC0PTO
> >
> > A few years ago I use this same technique to receive several SSTV
> > pictures from the ISS.
> >
> > *
> >
>

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