Re: New rules for 44 Qs?

KFF Coordinator

Yes. You can work a Park Monday and get 23 QSOs and go back Thursday and get 21 more QSOs and then you get credit for activating the park. 

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:12 AM David Garnier <dsgarnier@...> wrote:
Opps, may have missed an important point here.  Question,
Do multiple activations still count towards the "activation credit of 44?"

On Thu, 1/18/18, KFF Coordinator <kffcoordinator@...> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [WWFF-KFF] New rules for 44 Qs?
 Date: Thursday, January 18, 2018, 9:56 AM

 Here was
 our thinking on changing from 10 to 44... WWFF is a global
 program that WWFF-KFF is part of. The global awards have
 always been based on 44 contacts for an activation. Also,
 all the other countries that are part of WWFF require at
 least 44 activations for a park to count in their national
 program. Some have more. Some even have a MINIMUM time you
 have to spend at the park (I think it was 2 hours) for it to
 count as a valid activation.
 The idea behind WWFF is "to make nature
 your shack." The WWFF website states, "World
 Wide Flora and Fauna in Amateur Radio, is encouraging to leave your
 shack and go outside portable operating in protected nature
 parks all over the world." It is not an awards program,
 per se, but a program for us to get out an enjoy nature as
 part of our hobby. The awards are just icing on the

 Being part of a global program, we
 thought it best for WWFF-KFF to fall in line with the rest
 of the program. Remember, even if you do not get the
 activation credit when working a park, please still submit
 your logs because the hunters will get credit. And you can
 go back to a park as many times as you wish to make an
 really enjoy getting out and working parks and not being in
 my shack. My best memory is when I had a deer come up no
 further than 25 feet from my operating position before it
 noticed me. It was great.
 I hope you can still enjoy the
 program even thought the requirements for activating a park
 have become a bit harder.
 Meadows, AE4RMWWFF-KFF CoordinatorSee Us On The

 Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Norm Meyers N9MM <norm42@...>

 The Old Timer has often spoke of this. He believes that
 Activators should be activating for the benefit of the
 Hunters. Kind of a hard core belief, but he kind of has a
 point, Activators are nothing without Hunters. Hunters hunt,
 and if Activators only
  pass out 10 QSOs, the Old Timer says, then many deserving
 Hunters suffer.

 on behalf of Detrick Merz <detrick@...>

 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:24:25 AM


 Subject: Re: [WWFF-KFF] New rules for 44

 My wife, also a ham, has basically the same view. Some
 people activate from inside their vehicle in a parking lot,
 and that's fine, but they also might be missing out.
 It's within the rules though, and I happily support
 anyone activating however
  they chose, within the bounds if the rules. My preference
 is a picnic table, but I won't force that upon anyone
 else. And don't think I don't sit here pondering a
 vehicle activation when the high for the day is 20F.

 At 100w, and with CW possibly, sure the 44 isn't
 hard at all usually. But we all don't have 100w rigs, or
 100w rigs we can operate portable, or batteries enough, or
 muscle enough to hike that much gear into every park. And,
 for me at least,
  getting out of the car and operating *in* the park,
 that's been a real joy. I've only been in 10 or so
 parks, but I feel like I have a compelling story to tell
 from almost every one. And I've learned a lot every
 time, and had a blast.

 But here's the thing: even if there aren't 44
 people chasing WWFF when you're at a park, you can still
 reach that number:

 - work FT8, I got almost half the necessary contacts
 this way at my last park with a KX3 and 15W. Most of those
 contacts probably weren't chasing WWFF.
 - spin the dial and answer someone else's CQ: they
 don't have to be chasing WWFF for it to count for you,
 and you might turn someone else onto the program. I had a
 nice chat, via cw, from Diablo Lake in Washington with an op
 who was mobile in
 - ask people to spot you, especially if contacts are
 slow coming, spots draw contacts out of the woodwork
 - switch bands and modes. If there are only 10 people
 you can work, and you work them all on cw and voice, and
 across 20, 30, and 40m,  you'll have 60 contacts in the
 log. The reality is you won't get all 10 to follow you
 across bands and modes,
  but you *will* get some who do.

 Now don't get me wrong: there's a part of me
 that's real sad about the change from 10 to 44. My
 biggest goal is activating parks in 7 states. I worked from
 three parks in WA, getting 4, 9, and 13 contacts in them.
 Until January 1 that was enough
  for WA to count for me. But when I'll get another
 chance to go clean across the county, and even then back to
 those same parks to get at least one of them up to 44 ...
 well, I just don't count on counting WA anymore. Not
 until I can retire anyway.

 But this is short term pain, and better for us all in
 the long run, I think. It's harder now, but that will
 lead us to find creative ways to make more contacts, and
 better the program in the long run.


 On Jan 18, 2018 09:47,
 "joe kallo" <quietglow@...>

 Ha, funny: my wife (who is almost always doing 1/2 of the
 radio duties when we're activating) just told me I was
 being lame complaining about this. Her claim, as you
 suggest, is that the point isn't the pdf awards, but
 incentive to go to new places and hang
  out there for awhile.

 I think the question I have (and/or what bothers me) though
 is why such a large number compared to the other major OTA
 programs? NPOTA was 10 Qs for activation. SOTA is 4.
 Michigan State POTA is 10. Why such a large number for wwff?
 At least here in the US,
  there are not usually even 44 people looking for WWFF
 contacts at a given time, forget considerations about
 whether you can actually make a contact with them. Unlike
 those other OTAs, the count is cumulative for WWFF. So is
 the idea to encourage repeated visits?
  Make it fun for people even when they don't have a
 bunch of parks (like we do -- MI has a bazillion never
 activated as well)? 

Roger Meadows, AE4RM
WWFF-KFF Coordinator

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