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Re: Quality and Profit are not mutually exclusive.

R Roberts <russroberts@...>
 

I agree ... audio lies right in there between the written word and the
visual media. Whether through a book on tape in the car or a good,
interesting program on the radio, the ear paints on the mind's canvas.

Russ Roberts

-----Original Message-----
From: Leri [mailto:msleri@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:06 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: Re: [WJMA] Re: Quality and Profit are not mutually exclusive.

Pardon me for butting in, but I grew up on radio ( and I'm young enough
to
be Bill Little's daughter - perish the thought) I have thoroughly
enjoyed
your conversation about the seeds of a business plan. There is a lot of
expertise here. My generation is hooked on revival, and many of them are
anti-tv because they think it hurts their children. It does. Do you know
that teachers are taught to pick up their pace and be entertaining
because
their students are conditioned to that format by TV? Who's defining
thinking
here?

Baseball is a great draw, but so are the little things. There is no
reason
why learning can't be entertaining, but every teacher is not an
entertainer,
and they shouldn't place that as a priority. They have too many
otherthings
to do.

I still remember the radio that sat on the tank in the bathroom. Don't
tell
anyone, but I literally rode the stool to the Lone Ranger when I was a
tot.
In my teens, I was glued to the Joy Boys - Willard Scott and Ed Walker,
and
the Show tunes. I recovered from a deadly marriage by the radio and
Priarie
Home Companion, and I have taught 7th and 8th graders how to design by
LISTENING to stories instead of reading them. My daughter cut her public
speaking teeth creating a couple of commercials at WJMA. It gave her
confidence and recognition at the ripe old age of 8 or 9. She went on to
win
Declamations at Grymes, and was 2nd in State competitions in Forensics.
She
taught in a universtiy with a Bachelor's degree. With a Master's she
teaches
ESL now. Reading is the thing in the schools, and that could be greatly
enhanced by radio. Especially if there were materials that accompanied
the
programing.

I'm not saying turn the medium into a school room. I've bee
brainstorming
and my point is that radio is unigue because is spurs the imagination
and
enhances creative thought. It is more interactive than TV ever will be
and
it is not exploited as much as it could be. AND it is attractive to all
ages.

Leri Thomas, Ph. D.


----- Original Message -----
From: "R Roberts" <russroberts@...>
To: <WJMA@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: [WJMA] Re: Quality and Profit are not mutually exclusive.


Ralph, Seth, et al,

When listening to commercial radio I am little amused and most often
bored. The commercial "waste-band" is why the first six buttons on my
car radio are assigned to NPR affiliates and "non-coms". My interest
lies a few degrees beyond the idle complaining of a worn out, washed
up
vet; I like to think my musings and your thoughts might be the seed of
a
business plan.

Reading the posts tonight I remembered hearing a radio story a few
years
back about a Louisville, KY minor league baseball team/stadium owner.
When the fellow bought the operation, attendance was at low ebb,
community interest was nil and profits nonexistent. The future of
minor
league baseball? As far as he could see by the numbers, there wasn't
one.

What did he do? Taking a page from Persig, he turned to quality. He
spiffed up the park, priced the tickets fairly and started various
programs to encourage families to attend (like a carousel and play
park). He offered great quality ball-park food at a good price, tried
to attract the best players he could afford, generated a bit of drama
through showmanship and purposely traded upon what he perceived to be
the best traditions from baseball's past tuned to a modern chord.
According to the NPR story, the team/stadium became the most
profitable
minor league baseball operation in the nation.

Baseball, like radio, is a business.

Russ Roberts





-----Original Message-----
From: @rgraves321 [mailto:@rgraves321]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:37 AM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: Re: [WJMA] Re: Quality and Profit are not mutually exclusive.

<< The melancholy fact is that, whatever the programming element is,
it
has
to be something people want enough to listen to it in significant
numbers.>>
- Seth's right. Broadcasting plays and obituaries won't do it. I do
believe,
though, that in depth local news coverage will bring in the numbers.

<< As the PRPD has noted in the last year or two, good local
programming, such as a locally produced newsmagazine show, is darned
expensive. >>
- Sure, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about
an
expanded newsteam to cover the area in depth. No fancy production
values, just
called in reports taped and folded into the five o'clock and noon
news.
The
extra news staff is part time (less expensive than full time, you
know),
and their
modest salaries ($50 a week? $75?) are split between the radio station
and
the paper. Plus, each report is an additional segment of programming
that can be
sold for advertising - ad opportunities that should be of interest to
businesses that have not really considered advertising before.

Will the station make a huge profit on such a setup? No. That's why
the
Clear
Channel stations won't touch it. But properly structured and sold, the
stringers should not only be an income stream for the station, but
help
build
listener loyalty and audience size. And that can translate into higher
profits as it
allows the station's overall ad rates to rise.

Ralph Graves
1983-1990


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Re: Quality and Profit are not mutually exclusive.

Ralph Graves
 

I'd like to jump in here. And please keep in mind I have devoted most of my
professional career working with public radio. In fact most of our company's
clients are public radio stations and networks.


<<Couldn't a commercial station program to the "cognitive elite" and

survive?
- In a word, no. I commend you to the rapidly shrinking world of commercial
classical radio. There's only so many Mercedes Benz dealerships in an area
that can by ads on such a station. At one time there were over 100 such stations.
Now there are less then 20. Economics.

<<Is a corporation's profit margin the reason a commercial

station cannot broadcast on a par with public radio's quality?
- At the heart of it, commercial radio is a business. The responsibility of
the folks running the business is to make it as successful as possible. If
they don't, then the stockholders will put in a management team that will.


<<it only Public Radio stations that broadcast programming with "content"

rather than, what I will generalize as, "crap?"
- Commercial radio's job is to deliver as big an audience as possible to its
advertisers. The things we anguish over in this list simply do not matter to
most people. The majority of people don't really care about radio. They have a
vague idea about what they like, or don't like, but that's it. Same goes with
almost any aspect of life you care to name. Do you clean your car engine till
it shines every weekend? I don't, but I know car enthusiasts who do, and
despair that others haven't seen the light. Ditto with bibliophiles, nature
lovers, Civil War buffs, long distance runners, etc. Think of your own passion
(other than radio). Think about how important it is to most other people.


<<If my comment about Public Radio "doing it with little money" offended,

if even a little bit, I apologize. No doubt it is WVTF's reach that

allows it to generate the funds required to provide excellent

programming. You guys obviously chose to produce quality programming

and found a way to do it.
- I don't want to take anything away from Seth and WVTF, but I noticed
you're mixing locally and nationally produced programming together. They have
different goals, different resources, and are paid for slightly differently. How
can "Fresh Air" do what it does? Well, some of the money comes from the carriage
fees NPR charges the local stations (that's the part Seth's listeners have to
pay for). Some comes from NPR itself, as well as the Corporation for Public
Broadcasting (a funding agency that gets money from the gov'ment). The program
has national underwriters, as does NPR. Yeah, "Morning Edition" can do cool
news stories with sound effects and stuff, because they're a national agency
with all the resources that go with it.


<<I continue to argue, however, that commercial stations also have the

ability to produce whatever funds are required to produce interesting

programs
- Interesting to who? Remember, the commercial station's goal is to maximize
their listenership. What's interesting to the greatest number of people?

<<AND make a profit.
- See above. It's not enough just to make a profit. The goal of any business
is to make the maximum amount of profit possible.

<<In the case of at least Clear Channel's stations, a lot of money is
produced. I find Clear Channel's

programming to be boring and predictable.
- That's actually its strength. Every single tune has been market tested
with focus groups before being added. Clear Channel leaves nothing to chance,
which is why its so successful.

<<I can say the same about most small market, independent commercial stations
I listen to around the

country, too.
- The public has spoken. They only what to hear songs they've heard before.
Without the staff or the resources to institute dramatic changes (and justify
to the investors solidly researched reasons for doing so), they have to
deliver what the general public expects.

Perhaps the obsession with and the love of money, IS the deciding factor

- Now you're getting it...

All that being said, don't think public radio has it made. The audience
exerts as much pressure on public stations, pushing them in a certain direction
just as much as the general public pushes the direction Clear Channel goes. For
some time now a debate has been raging in the public radio community. NPR used
to be equally committed to both arts coverage and programming, and news
coverage and programming. Audiences said (through their pledge dollars and various
surveys) that they didn't really care much about arts coverage - and last year
it disappeared. "Performance Today," a daily magazine documenting classical
music performance across America was gutted. Jazz and classical music programs
disappeared in a heartbeat. "Morning Edition" used to devote twenty minutes to
arts coverage. Not any more - and that coverage nowadays is just as likely to
be a rock group as it is a jazz artist. NPR has established a bureau in LA
specifically to do more coverage of movie and TV celebrities. The reality is that
NPR doesn't cover certain subjects because it doesn't play well with their
target audience.

And let's talk about that wonderful creative music programming. Seth can tell
you that there's a lot of pressure to keep things light - keep it to music
that can double for Muzak. If you listen to a Clear Channel Oldies station, you
would think the only tune the Beatles recorded was "Twist and Shout." You
won't hear "Strawberry Fields" and you sure as hell won't hear "Revolution Number
Nine." Now let's go over to the classical programming on public radio (and I
am not dissing Seth here at all - he does wonders within the constraints he has
to work under). Listen carefully, and you'll think that Vivaldi was the first
classical composer, and that Brahms was the last - in other words, all the
classical composers are comfortably dead, and have been for a century. You'll
also think no one every wrote anything for the human voice, and very little for
anything but orchestras. Of course Seth can't play Stockhausen in the middle
of the day - his audience wouldn't stand for it. They also wouldn't stand for a
short opera during that time, either. So - Seth can't be completely creative.
He, like his counterpart in commercial radio has an audience to answer to, as
well as superiors telling him what THEY think should be played.

Finally, since I've given my comments on everything else, let me give my two
cents about radio drama. In the 1930's everyone listened to radio drama. They
sat around the radio quietly, and listened. That doesn't happen today. That's
the reality. People use radio differently. I've already outlined the financial
issues with grand rights that would prevent airing plays.

Next time you go to a play, try enjoying it with your eyes closed. Different
experience. Radio drama requires sound effects, a narrator and a general
re-writing to clue the audience into the action, or the whole thing doesn't make a
whole lot of sense.

For example:
JOHN (looking at Frank coming through the door): Hello.

- has to become

JOHN: (speaking to himself) That looks like Frank coming through the door.
SOUND EFFECT: Door opening
JOHN: Hello.

Now - who's going to volunteer to do a complete rewrite of a play for radio?
Not I!
BTW - that wonderful bit you heard on NPR was produced with a staff of at
least three different people - who also worked on some, but not all of the other
segments you heard (there were other staff members who took care of that).

Clear Channel gives the average person the programming they say they want -
or will put up with.


Ralph Graves
1983-1990

Re: Quality and Profit are not mutually exclusive.

Leri <msleri@...>
 

Pardon me for butting in, but I grew up on radio ( and I'm young enough to
be Bill Little's daughter - perish the thought) I have thoroughly enjoyed
your conversation about the seeds of a business plan. There is a lot of
expertise here. My generation is hooked on revival, and many of them are
anti-tv because they think it hurts their children. It does. Do you know
that teachers are taught to pick up their pace and be entertaining because
their students are conditioned to that format by TV? Who's defining thinking
here?

Baseball is a great draw, but so are the little things. There is no reason
why learning can't be entertaining, but every teacher is not an entertainer,
and they shouldn't place that as a priority. They have too many otherthings
to do.

I still remember the radio that sat on the tank in the bathroom. Don't tell
anyone, but I literally rode the stool to the Lone Ranger when I was a tot.
In my teens, I was glued to the Joy Boys - Willard Scott and Ed Walker, and
the Show tunes. I recovered from a deadly marriage by the radio and Priarie
Home Companion, and I have taught 7th and 8th graders how to design by
LISTENING to stories instead of reading them. My daughter cut her public
speaking teeth creating a couple of commercials at WJMA. It gave her
confidence and recognition at the ripe old age of 8 or 9. She went on to win
Declamations at Grymes, and was 2nd in State competitions in Forensics. She
taught in a universtiy with a Bachelor's degree. With a Master's she teaches
ESL now. Reading is the thing in the schools, and that could be greatly
enhanced by radio. Especially if there were materials that accompanied the
programing.

I'm not saying turn the medium into a school room. I've bee brainstorming
and my point is that radio is unigue because is spurs the imagination and
enhances creative thought. It is more interactive than TV ever will be and
it is not exploited as much as it could be. AND it is attractive to all
ages.

Leri Thomas, Ph. D.

----- Original Message -----
From: "R Roberts" <russroberts@...>
To: <WJMA@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: [WJMA] Re: Quality and Profit are not mutually exclusive.


Ralph, Seth, et al,

When listening to commercial radio I am little amused and most often
bored. The commercial "waste-band" is why the first six buttons on my
car radio are assigned to NPR affiliates and "non-coms". My interest
lies a few degrees beyond the idle complaining of a worn out, washed up
vet; I like to think my musings and your thoughts might be the seed of a
business plan.

Reading the posts tonight I remembered hearing a radio story a few years
back about a Louisville, KY minor league baseball team/stadium owner.
When the fellow bought the operation, attendance was at low ebb,
community interest was nil and profits nonexistent. The future of minor
league baseball? As far as he could see by the numbers, there wasn't
one.

What did he do? Taking a page from Persig, he turned to quality. He
spiffed up the park, priced the tickets fairly and started various
programs to encourage families to attend (like a carousel and play
park). He offered great quality ball-park food at a good price, tried
to attract the best players he could afford, generated a bit of drama
through showmanship and purposely traded upon what he perceived to be
the best traditions from baseball's past tuned to a modern chord.
According to the NPR story, the team/stadium became the most profitable
minor league baseball operation in the nation.

Baseball, like radio, is a business.

Russ Roberts





-----Original Message-----
From: @rgraves321 [mailto:@rgraves321]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:37 AM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: Re: [WJMA] Re: Quality and Profit are not mutually exclusive.

<< The melancholy fact is that, whatever the programming element is, it
has
to be something people want enough to listen to it in significant
numbers.>>
- Seth's right. Broadcasting plays and obituaries won't do it. I do
believe,
though, that in depth local news coverage will bring in the numbers.

<< As the PRPD has noted in the last year or two, good local
programming, such as a locally produced newsmagazine show, is darned
expensive. >>
- Sure, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about
an
expanded newsteam to cover the area in depth. No fancy production
values, just
called in reports taped and folded into the five o'clock and noon news.
The
extra news staff is part time (less expensive than full time, you know),
and their
modest salaries ($50 a week? $75?) are split between the radio station
and
the paper. Plus, each report is an additional segment of programming
that can be
sold for advertising - ad opportunities that should be of interest to
businesses that have not really considered advertising before.

Will the station make a huge profit on such a setup? No. That's why the
Clear
Channel stations won't touch it. But properly structured and sold, the
stringers should not only be an income stream for the station, but help
build
listener loyalty and audience size. And that can translate into higher
profits as it
allows the station's overall ad rates to rise.

Ralph Graves
1983-1990


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Re: 50th year of OCHS football

Clint Estes
 

Yon O'Connor never worked a game to my knowledge during his two stints with
WJMA though I asked him to travel with us sometimes. Will Gregg was Bob
Gregg's son that had Gregg's pharmacy on main street.

Re: 50th year of OCHS football

Clint Estes
 

You are right it was Rev. George Fletcher.

Re: Fletcher By George!

Clint Estes
 

Mark,
How could I have forgotten you at Courtland! Did I have to twist your arm
or promise you a bonus??? At that time it was not the most friendly place to
travel to!
Clint

Fletcher By George!

Mark Johnson
 

Finally it came to me.

Rev. George Fletcher was the ace sideline reporter for several years
in the late 70's/early 80's.

For one awful night he was the color commentator in place of an
absent Tom Graves.

George did fine, it was HIS replacement on the sidelines that night
at Courtland High School, who really reeked.

I've tried for over 20 years to suppress the memory.

Mark "Sideline" Johnson
81-84

Re: Quality and Profit are not mutually exclusive.

R Roberts <russroberts@...>
 

Ralph, Seth, et al,

When listening to commercial radio I am little amused and most often
bored. The commercial "waste-band" is why the first six buttons on my
car radio are assigned to NPR affiliates and "non-coms". My interest
lies a few degrees beyond the idle complaining of a worn out, washed up
vet; I like to think my musings and your thoughts might be the seed of a
business plan.

Reading the posts tonight I remembered hearing a radio story a few years
back about a Louisville, KY minor league baseball team/stadium owner.
When the fellow bought the operation, attendance was at low ebb,
community interest was nil and profits nonexistent. The future of minor
league baseball? As far as he could see by the numbers, there wasn't
one.

What did he do? Taking a page from Persig, he turned to quality. He
spiffed up the park, priced the tickets fairly and started various
programs to encourage families to attend (like a carousel and play
park). He offered great quality ball-park food at a good price, tried
to attract the best players he could afford, generated a bit of drama
through showmanship and purposely traded upon what he perceived to be
the best traditions from baseball's past tuned to a modern chord.
According to the NPR story, the team/stadium became the most profitable
minor league baseball operation in the nation.

Baseball, like radio, is a business.

Russ Roberts

-----Original Message-----
From: @rgraves321 [mailto:@rgraves321]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:37 AM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: Re: [WJMA] Re: Quality and Profit are not mutually exclusive.

<< The melancholy fact is that, whatever the programming element is, it
has
to be something people want enough to listen to it in significant
numbers.>>
- Seth's right. Broadcasting plays and obituaries won't do it. I do
believe,
though, that in depth local news coverage will bring in the numbers.

<< As the PRPD has noted in the last year or two, good local
programming, such as a locally produced newsmagazine show, is darned
expensive. >>
- Sure, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about
an
expanded newsteam to cover the area in depth. No fancy production
values, just
called in reports taped and folded into the five o'clock and noon news.
The
extra news staff is part time (less expensive than full time, you know),
and their
modest salaries ($50 a week? $75?) are split between the radio station
and
the paper. Plus, each report is an additional segment of programming
that can be
sold for advertising - ad opportunities that should be of interest to
businesses that have not really considered advertising before.

Will the station make a huge profit on such a setup? No. That's why the
Clear
Channel stations won't touch it. But properly structured and sold, the
stringers should not only be an income stream for the station, but help
build
listener loyalty and audience size. And that can translate into higher
profits as it
allows the station's overall ad rates to rise.

Ralph Graves
1983-1990


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Re: 50th year of OCHS football

Mark Johnson
 

--- In WJMA@..., Clestes@a... wrote:

Some other names that have worked football:

Rev. George Frazier
This just does not sound right. I remember Rev George, but "Frazier"
does not ring a bell.

Mark Johnson
81-84

Re: 50th year of OCHS football

Mark Johnson
 

--- In WJMA@..., Clestes@a... wrote:
Mark,
Thanks for the reminder! Since 1977 I have missed 3 seasons
for various
reasons. During one of those seasons Eric St. James worked with
Will Gregg.

Ok, now was Will Gregg also known as Yon O'Conner or something like
that? I feel real dumb asking that but in the back of my mind......

Mark Johnson
81-84

Re: film at 11

Les <grandmananer@...>
 

Let's hear (or see) it for T&V News. Rah.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:03:25 -0400, "Dominion Market Research"
<Ross@...> said:

Channel 29 came by today for some comments on the WJMA FM move to
Midlothian. I'm told it should be on tonight at 6 and maybe 11. Flame
me if you don't like the comments. The reporter was fishing for
derogatory comments, but I don't think I made any. We'll see what
they choose to air.

Ross
71-86
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309 Madison Road
PO Box 791
Orange VA 22960-0464
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Re: 50th year of OCHS football

Mark Johnson
 

--- In WJMA@..., Dominion Market Research staff
-------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------
A start for a sports broadcaster list. Please make corrections and
additions. At times there have been sideline reporters, too.

1953-???? station manager
????-???? Bill & Don Little, Red Hager
????-???? Bill Little & Ted Carroll
????-???? Bill Little & David Taylor
????-???? Bill Little & Clint Estes
????-???? Clint Estes & Tom Graves
????-???? Clint Estes & Eric St James
????-???? Clint Estes & Red Shipley
....................................
/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/

Wasn't Clint paired with another fellow whose last name was Gregg,
unusual first name, maybe 6-8 years ago?

Mark Johnson
81-84

Re: 50th year of OCHS football

Mark Johnson
 

Well the whole idea just won't work unless you can unearth a post-
game interview with Paul Sizemore.

Mark Johnson
81-84

Re: 50th year of OCHS football

Clint Estes
 

Mark,
Thanks for the reminder! Since 1977 I have missed 3 seasons for various
reasons. During one of those seasons Eric St. James worked with Will Gregg. I
never worked with Will. I thought it was Davis Kube, but I now believe David
Kube only worked basketball games.
Clint

Re: 50th year of OCHS football

Clint Estes
 

Ross,
Please let me know the best day and time for you and Bill.
When I came in 1977 it was Bill and Ted and in 1978 I worked
with Bill and next was Tom Graves. I never worked with David Taylor (though I
have heard his great voice and style) so he must have been between 1973 and
1977. Is that possible?
Some other names that have worked football:
Phil Goodwin
Ken Pratt (KP)
Rev. George Frazier
David Kube
Mike Cartalaro
Mike Howes

There are many others that worked basketball including Mary
Thompson.

Clint Estes

Re: [WJMA party over Labor Day

Linda Westby <thedipster813@...>
 

willow, linda here, I will be happy to help! I will either do the party - for a fee of course, or just organize if you're interested, e mail me back and let me know asap. I'll get busier than I already am!


From: willowdrinkwater@...
Reply-To: WJMA@...
To: WJMA@...
Subject: [WJMA] Re: [WJMA party over Labor Day
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:15:46 -0400

Hi everyone...I still haven't heard from Phil Audibert whether Ryegrass Rollers can play on Saturday or Sunday of Labor Day Weekend. I will be coming in from upstate NY, and have to start thinking of how we shall organize this gettogether. Anyone interested in helping?

Willow (Barbara Potter) PS...How comforting to drive into Orange from upstate NY on Saturday and hear Phil Goodwin's voice on WJMA. Knew I was home.
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50th year of OCHS football

Dominion Market Research staff <xhunter@...>
 

Clint,

Strange you should bring this up. Just the other day Bill and I were trying to recall all the football play-by-play and color people .

I'd be happy to meet with you.

One idea they comes to mind would be to tie the cutaway music to the era of the speaker. Maybe Phil Goodwin could put together some :30 news headlines from various of the past 50 years. I think I may have a bit of Ted Carroll play-by-play on tape. Maybe we can locate some more tape.

I've tried without success to find both Ted Carroll and Tom Graves. Bill, Red Hager and David are both on this list. Don Little is reachable

Ross
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A start for a sports broadcaster list. Please make corrections and additions. At times there have been sideline reporters, too.

1953-???? station manager
????-???? Bill & Don Little, Red Hager
????-???? Bill Little & Ted Carroll
????-???? Bill Little & David Taylor
????-???? Bill Little & Clint Estes
????-???? Clint Estes & Tom Graves
????-???? Clint Estes & Eric St James
????-???? Clint Estes & Red Shipley
....................................

Ross,
It appears the 50th year of Orange football will happen this fall
following an earlier conversation with John Shick and Joe B. We will start on the FM
(98.9) and move to the AM should the lawyers get everything worked out before
the end of the season. In 1953 WJMA broadcast its first game on 1340 and it would be ironic that the
last few games may be back on 1340 where it began! My question to you is I would like to do some interviews with former
players, coaches and broadcasters from the past 50 years as part of the pregame
and or halftime and was wondering if you and Bill would be available at lunch or
after work one day next week to discuss this. Red Shipley is willing to help
with this project and could join us to brainstorm. I had also toyed with the
idea of having former broadcasters like Bill Little, Ted Carroll, David
Taylor, Tom Graves etc., announce a quarter of play-by-play or at least do an
interview and maybe a "Wishing WJMA a happy 50th football season" promo. I have
not asked John Shick about the guest broadcaster idea but I will check with him.

I am open to any and all creative ideas from the "group" about promoting
this 50th Orange football season (and possibly the last) on WJMA so please
chime in!!!!!!!

Clint Estes
1977 - present


P.S. Many thanks to Arch way back in the fall of 1977 that gave me a chance
to do local sports and to Bill Little for the training to call a game!









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Re: film at 11

Clint Estes
 

Ross,
It appears the 50th year of Orange football will happen this fall
following an earlier conversation with John Shick and Joe B. We will start on the FM
(98.9) and move to the AM should the lawyers get everything worked out before
the end of the season.
In 1953 WJMA broadcast its first game on 1340 and it would be ironic that the
last few games may be back on 1340 where it began!
My question to you is I would like to do some interviews with former
players, coaches and broadcasters from the past 50 years as part of the pregame
and or halftime and was wondering if you and Bill would be available at lunch or
after work one day next week to discuss this. Red Shipley is willing to help
with this project and could join us to brainstorm. I had also toyed with the
idea of having former broadcasters like Bill Little, Ted Carroll, David
Taylor, Tom Graves etc., announce a quarter of play-by-play or at least do an
interview and maybe a "Wishing WJMA a happy 50th football season" promo. I have
not asked John Shick about the guest broadcaster idea but I will check with him.

I am open to any and all creative ideas from the "group" about promoting
this 50th Orange football season (and possibly the last) on WJMA so please
chime in!!!!!!!

Clint Estes
1977 - present


P.S. Many thanks to Arch way back in the fall of 1977 that gave me a chance
to do local sports and to Bill Little for the training to call a game!

Unexpected neighbors

Seth Williamson <seth@...>
 

This week I have been emceeing some music panels at the monster bluegrass and old-time music festival we're holding in Roanoke

(which you can read about here, by the way):

www.roanokefiddlefest.org

Yesterday I did something called "One-on-One with Charlie Waller" at Hollins University, with the legendary guy who founded the Country Gentlemen in 1957. Charlie lives in Gordonsville, and I mentioned that I used to work at WJMA. He told me that his neighbor is none other than...Bill Little.

One of those small-world moments which I thought I'd pass on...


Seth Williamson

Re: Ernie Crane

JWhitten@...
 

Longish hair?

It reminds me of the devout Conservative in graduate school who wore his hair long because, for men, hair-cutting as a bit too cosmetic, and therefore, against the natural law.

He did, however, manage to be always clean shaven.

It's obvious that I'm a little behind in my WJMA reading, but I'll catch up.

Joe Whitten

-----Original Message-----
From: rmj142@... Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:25 PM
To: WJMA@...; WJMA@...
Subject: [WJMA] Ernie Crane

Very sad news. Ernie was one of pillars of Main Street and it has not been that long ago that you could still see him prowling the parking lot there on the corner.

I remember about 20 years ago I managed to run out of gas along about where Preddy's is. I jogged to Ernie's Exxon (then) and breathlessly asked if he could loan me a can to carry some gas.

He gave me and my longish hair a searching look and then slowly walked over and picked up a can and handed it to me. I could tell he was wondering how far I could be trusted so I offered to pay him for the can. He looked me in the eye and said, "I don't want to SELL the can I just want it BACK".

Ten minutes later I returned with the can to Ernie's mild surprise. He seemed extremely pleased to have met an honest young man and glad that he could give me a hand.

We tend to take people for granted till they arn't there anymore.

Mark Johnson
81-84





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