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Re: Party on Labor Day???or thereabouts

Barbara Potter-Drinkwater
 

IOK...I will take on being Party Meister...but need a committee...only
because that's a party in itself. Who is going to be around this summer?
Linda said she would cater (still on, Linda?)or do you want to potluck and
Phil and group will play (thanks Phil) and we need a party game meister (as
in volleyball net...for the pool or the ground...already have a croquet
set...pool and hottub...) and we need tables and chairs...I probably can get
them from my church, Gordonsville United Methodist...but could use some help
schlepping...and make it BYOB? We can provide drinks...and of course
balloons marking the driveway at Cedar Hill Road just north of the
Gordonsville Circle. What days can you'all come? We have plenty of roomfor
tents in the backyard, and even one RV hookup down by the barn. We will be
back in VA on June 28th so plenty of time to plan. Let's hear what you all
want and we shall plan accordingly. The Pat Watson Oak is standing pretty
tall these days.

Who you are makes a difference,
Love, Willow

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n a message dated 5/20/2003 12:34:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
russroberts@... writes:


Of course I am ready to party on or around Labor Day. I'll just need to
know the firm date at least a month in advance. It looks like Willow is
the Party Commander. Just let us know how much dough to pony up and
what we're going to do about food/drinks (Pot luck? Cater?).

Russ Roberts

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From: willowdrinkwater@... [mailto:willowdrinkwater@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 12:27 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: Re: [WJMA] Poll the group and RyeGrass Rollers playing?

In a message dated 5/20/2003 6:53:57 AM Central Daylight Time,
Phlodbear@... writes:




I'm not sure yet if all of the Rollers will be in town over Labor Day
weekend; we may be missing Alex the primo fiddler. I should know
within a
couple of weeks or so. Otherwise, the Ryegrass Rollers would love to
play,

but would need some monetary incentive. My services of course would
be
gratis.

Phil A.
I am sure the WJMA'ers will sweeten the pot, but we must have Alex...She

played at a going away party for a friend of mine who was moving to
Maine.
What a special lady she is....My friend was brought to tears (good
tears) by
her playing. She played some kind of special Irish going away song...as
only
the Irish can do it. Of course, we know how good the rest of the band
is,
too...and we have the CD for Alex. Haven't heard back from anyone on
who
wants to party. Don't we have POLL privileges on our webpage...Maybe we

could poll the group.

Who you are makes a difference,
Love, Willow

wild crafted nutrition for wellness
http//:www.energyforyourdreams.com
1-800-927-2527, ext. 03969 (voice mail) 585-746-8019 (cell)





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another new member

Dominion Market Research staff <xhunter@...>
 

Out of the blue a phone call came in this morning from Judy Berger who worked in the sales department in the Arch/Digby transition period, as I recall. I've added Judy to the list. She's getting the digest version.

I hope Judy will join in and bring us up to date on her life.

Ross
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kudos Cameron

Dominion Market Research staff <xhunter@...>
 

I've just resurfaced after a very busy couple of weeks here at work and college graduation.

I see from the DC Radio/TV site that Cameron Gray has been promoted at WJFK.

"5/8 - Speaking of Infinity, All Access reports that Cameron Gray has been promoted from producer to operations director at WJFK-FM....."

As some of you may recall Cameron started at WJMA while at OCHS using the nom de aire of "Kyle Stevens". Now I really do have to locate that old air check to hear if it was Cameron.

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Re: Judy Berger

Barbara Potter-Drinkwater
 

What a great lady she is. Glad to hear she's aboard. Her Mom is my best
friend, and that was even after she was my real estate assistant back in the
l980's.

Who you are makes a difference,
Love, Willow

wild crafted nutrition for wellness
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Re: Poll the group and RyeGrass Rollers playing?

Barbara Potter-Drinkwater
 

In a message dated 5/20/2003 6:53:57 AM Central Daylight Time,
Phlodbear@... writes:




I'm not sure yet if all of the Rollers will be in town over Labor Day
weekend; we may be missing Alex the primo fiddler. I should know within a
couple of weeks or so. Otherwise, the Ryegrass Rollers would love to play,

but would need some monetary incentive. My services of course would be
gratis.

Phil A.
I am sure the WJMA'ers will sweeten the pot, but we must have Alex...She
played at a going away party for a friend of mine who was moving to Maine.
What a special lady she is....My friend was brought to tears (good tears) by
her playing. She played some kind of special Irish going away song...as only
the Irish can do it. Of course, we know how good the rest of the band is,
too...and we have the CD for Alex. Haven't heard back from anyone on who
wants to party. Don't we have POLL privileges on our webpage...Maybe we
could poll the group.

Who you are makes a difference,
Love, Willow

wild crafted nutrition for wellness
http//:www.energyforyourdreams.com
1-800-927-2527, ext. 03969 (voice mail) 585-746-8019 (cell)


Re: RyeGrass Rollers playing?

Phil Audibert
 

In a message dated 5/20/2003 3:35:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
WJMA@... writes:

<< RyeGrass Rollers playing? >>

I'm not sure yet if all of the Rollers will be in town over Labor Day
weekend; we may be missing Alex the primo fiddler. I should know within a
couple of weeks or so. Otherwise, the Ryegrass Rollers would love to play,
but would need some monetary incentive. My services of course would be
gratis.

Phil A.


Caution: old pfart mode

Ross Hunter <xhunter@...>
 

Here's a link to an interesting broadcasting article in Sunday's
Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2714-2003May17.html

It sounds like Phil Goodwin at WJMA is a bigger news staff that all
the Clear Channel stations in Washington!

If you want to read the article here, it's below.

Ross
71-86
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washingtonpost.com

Sounds Familiar For a Reason

By Marc Fisher

Sunday, May 18, 2003; Page B01

Technology begets wonders, such as radio talk show host Brian Wilson,
who, thanks to satellites and the Internet, sits on his farm north of
Baltimore and talks California politics with listeners on San
Francisco's KSFO. Wilson wakes each day, fires up his Web browser and
reads the morning San Francisco Chronicle online for the latest news
from clear across the country. He's so good that his listeners could
be forgiven for thinking that he's in the City by the Bay rather than
in a bedroom in Maryland. This is what passes for local radio these
days.

Satellites and digital recording also make it possible for oldies
deejay Tom Kelly to finish up his afternoon air shift on WBIG in
Rockville, then sit down in front of a microphone and record his next
job, as JJ Jackson, the overnight oldies jock on KQQL in Minneapolis.
And no one's the wiser -- except, of course, Clear Channel
Communications Inc., which owns both stations. You do have to give Clear Channel a hand for this wink and nudge on the KQQL Web site:
"Actually, JJ is perhaps the most 'there' overnight presence in Twin
Cities FM radio."

Deregulation in the media industries begets wonders, too, producing
not only deejays with multiple personalities, but multiple stations
with single corporate identities. Ever since Congress eased limits on
media ownership in 1996, companies such as Clear Channel and Viacom
Inc. have gobbled up hundreds of radio stations, threatening
diversity. In many cities, a single company controls a majority of
radio advertising revenue and makes most of the programming
decisions. Since 1996, Clear Channel alone went from 40 stations to
more than 1,200; add the company's prominence in the concert
promotion and outdoor advertising businesses and you have
unprecedented influence on the nation's popular music.

The combination of technological change and freedom from government
regulation has not liberated owners to do more with less; rather,
companies have lunged at the chance to do far less and rake in much
more.

Come June 2, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is expected
to approve new rules that would allow even more consolidation in the
media: TV networks would be permitted to buy more stations than they
are now, a media company would be allowed to own as many as three TV
stations in one city, and restrictions on cross-ownership between
newspapers and broadcast stations would be lifted.

After an expected binge of station and network sales, companies with
the deepest pockets could assert control over a region's major radio
stations, cable TV system, Internet service providers, a couple of TV
stations and perhaps the local paper, too. Synergy, that
much-lampooned dream of 1990s media boosters, could finally happen in
a big way, with one company providing news and entertainment via all
media from a single newsroom. The result would hardly be a boon to
newsgathering; rather, it would result in diminished public service.

FCC Chairman Michael Powell and other champions of further
deregulation have taken the infinite capacity of the Internet as
rationale for scrapping much of the remaining regulation of the
airwaves. Does the FCC need to worry about media diversity when
technology now lets any Jane Q. Citizen get on the Web and blog to
her heart's content?

In a word, yes. The 1990s-boom-era rhetoric has come up empty, and
Powell knows it. Despite the infinite promise of the Internet, cable
TV, digital and satellite radio and whatever other marvels may lie
ahead, the reality of corporate consolidation has been a serious
diminution in the variety of opinions, news reports, musical choices
and cultural offerings in both the commercial and public media.
Greater concentration of ownership in TV would reinforce a remarkable
oligopoly in which five companies -- Viacom/CBS, Disney/ABC, NBC, AOL
Time Warner and News Corp./Fox -- boast 75 percent of primetime TV
viewers.

The test case for consolidation has been radio. Ever since the 1996
easing of restrictions on ownership , big media companies have faced
off against musicians, activists and some of the few remaining mom
and pop station owners. The media companies say the airwaves offer a
more bountiful selection of artistic riches than ever before and that
they have brought big-city talent to backwater communities, replacing
farm reports, swap shops and amateurish deejays.

But listeners hear the nation's broadcasters pressing the culture to
its lowest common denominator in a cynical money grab. Rush Limbaugh,
Howard Stern and Tom Joyner are piped into your hometown by satellite.

The big companies do offer variety -- of a sort. In Washington, Clear
Channel introduced a new format, Jam'n Oldies, featuring disco and danceable R&B of the 1970s; the station flopped, but executives say
that sort of innovation wouldn't have happened unless one firm had
eight outlets in one city to experiment with.

But in the past few years, Washington listeners have lost far more
music choices than they have gained, on both commercial and public
radio: standards (WGAY, the only station in the market that aimed at
older listeners, tried a series of failed formats); jazz (WDCU was
sold to C-SPAN, which uses the frequency as a prototype of a
satellite-delivered national audio service); bluegrass (WAMU dropped
much of its local music programming to serve up more news and talk
produced for a national audience); and classical (WETA dropped some
daily music offerings to simulcast news programs already heard on
WAMU).

In city after city, Clear Channel points to formats it has added --
hip-hop here, alternative rock there. But critics contend that even
when the big companies add program formats, the music they play is
the same old stuff. A study by the Future of Music Coalition, a
Washington-based artists group, found that different formats feature
almost identical playlists, sharing as much as 76 percent of the
songs they play.

More important, the radio chain -- saddled with $8 billion in debt
from its '90s acquisition spree -- has cut costs and increased ad
rates to squeeze operating profits from its stations. The chain has
replaced local deejays and news announcers with jocks who sit in
Phoenix or Denver and record shows for stations thousands of miles
away, tossing in a few local references for verisimilitude ("Hey,
tough day on I-10! How about those Bucs!"). News operations have been
eliminated or outsourced. And programming that once mirrored local
standards now takes on the coarseness of New York and Los Angeles,
where stunningly vulgar sex talk wins big ratings.

If deregulation was supposed to let a thousand flowers bloom, most of
the garden appears to be in Clear Channel's yard. The company is
regularly accused of limiting playlists, favoring artists who tour
through the company's concert wing. (Clear Channel denies any
connection between its concert operations and airplay.)

But so what? How many listeners know or care that their favorite pop
or rap station is owned by a huge Texas conglomerate? So what if the
deejay is talking about Richmond but sitting in Arizona?

"The fact is we're now a healthier industry and you have more
choices," says Alfred Liggins III, chief executive of Radio One, the
Lanham-based company that started with Washington's black talk
station, WOL, and grew into the nation's largest minority-owned radio
company. "Is it tougher for the little guy, the mom and pop owner?
Yeah. But that little guy could not provide the same level of talent
and service. There aren't 10 Jay Lenos. Why wouldn't you leverage
such a talent? Technology allows you to do it, so why wouldn't you?"

But there is a downside to diluting the localism that has given radio
its distinctive edge since the dawn of the Top 40 era in the 1950s.
Radio for decades played a crucial role in building community -- from
deejays visiting high schools to run record hops to news departments
that provided essential coverage of storms, riots, elections and
scholastic sports.

Consolidation and cutbacks in local staffing have eliminated many of
those functions. The prime example wielded against the industry stems
from an accident last year in Minot, N.D., where Clear Channel owns
all six commercial stations. When a train derailment in the middle of
the night released a frightening cloud of anhydrous ammonia, Minot
police sought to notify the citizenry of the crisis. They called
KCJB, the station designated as the local emergency broadcaster, but
no one was home; the station was being run by computer, automatically
passing along Clear Channel programming from another city.

Clear Channel argues that only a technical glitch prevented word from
getting through. But glitches aside, the six stations now have only
one news employee among them.

Even in Washington, where Clear Channel's stations do offer news
headlines and WRC relays the audio of CNN Headline News, there is not
one reporter gathering news on the street. When the planes struck on
9/11, several of Washington's FM stations had nowhere to turn but to
TV; they merely fed the sound from those newscasts.

Maybe it's true that listeners neither notice nor mind. In a Pew
Center for the People and the Press survey earlier this year,
slightly more Americans said letting companies own more stations
would make no difference than said such a move would have a negative
impact. But radio executives know that listeners don't pay close
attention to the source of what they hear, and that has freed the
industry to economize on virtually every detail of programming.
Traffic announcers on most big-city stations can often be heard on
several stations in the same city, using different names or tones of
voice to keep listeners from noticing. For example, Beverly Farmer,
who's delivered traffic reports under her own name on several
D.C.-area radio stations, has also done stints as "Alex Richards" on
WMZQ, "Vera Bruptly" on WJFK and "Ginny Bridges" and "Lee McKenzie"
on other stations.

That showbiz stunt is one thing for traffic reports -- what
difference does it make who tells you that I-95 is jammed at the
Mixing Bowl? -- but it raises tougher questions when it comes to news
coverage. Yet the nation's largest traffic reporting company, Metro
Networks (owned by a division of Viacom, one of the largest media
conglomerates), is trying to win the job of handling news coverage
for hundreds of music stations. With rare exceptions such as all-news
stations in big cities, radio news has been entirely outsourced, and
largely to one company. Even in Washington, it is rare for any radio
reporter to show up at news events other than those from all-news
WTOP, talk WMAL or occasionally public radio's WAMU.

Washington is a big enough market that its stations still provide
hours of locally originated programming. But some popular programs no
longer have much local content: WKYS's popular morning man, Russ
Parr, used to joke about Hyattsville and comment on the shenanigans
of the District government; now that his program is fed to stations
around the country, the humor is more generic, the content less
local. The same is true of Don and Mike, the bad boys of WJFK's
evening drive-time show; Don Geronimo still growls about Fairfax
traffic from time to time, but both hosts now spice their show with
plenty of references to Philadelphia and other cities where their
syndicated program also airs.

Again, listeners don't complain, but the lack of complaint is hardly
an endorsement. Radio listenership has been in decline for years.
Surely the emotional connection to radio that was a crucial part of
the identity of the generation that tucked transistor radios under
the pillow and graduated to stereo systems in time for the
alternative rock revolution is all but gone. And while local
character has declined, the commercial load has crept up to as much
as 24 minutes an hour on some stations.

As I work on a book on radio's evolution over the past half-century,
I hear almost daily from radio executives who lament what has become
of their business and complain about how hard it is to offer creative
programming when managers must run four stations at once and deejays
are required to be inoffensive and unnoticeable. Even within Clear
Channel, station executives privately bemoan what artists now loudly
protest, a system in which big radio takes advantage of its market
power by requiring record companies to pay for their songs to be on
the radio.

In his recent song "The Last DJ," Tom Petty sings, " . . . there goes
your freedom of choice/There goes the last human voice/There goes the
last DJ."

But the arguments against further consolidating ownership of the
media are not simply nostalgia for a time when deejays served as
guides to cultural shifts.

There is also a powerful rational objection to a new wave of
consolidation, one that fits the FCC's penchant for justifying policy
decisions with economic and legal argument: The enormous debt and
cost-cutting that follow corporate consolidation has produced a need
for safe, bland and cheap programming -- and declining consumer
interest. Chain ownership has diminished both the diversity and
vibrancy of discussion and debate -- and that is what the FCC is charged to protect on the public's airwaves. As Justice Louis
Brandeis once said, "We can have a democratic society or we can have
the concentration of great wealth in the hands of the few. We cannot
have both."

Marc Fisher is a columnist for The Washington Post's Metro section.
He is working on a book about radio's evolution since the advent of
TV.

© 2003 The Washington Post Company


Re: Cregg

Ross Hunter <xhunter@...>
 

Hi arch; & gang
Your memory is great Arch, just a few MINOR adjustments,
John's father worked for May Rudasill (sp). Unfortunately he
contracted cancer and had to retire. They moved to C'vlle.
because John's mom was secretary to the President of the U.

The last I heard from John which was a LONG LONG time ago (he
wrote to find out if we were divorced yet! - Only for 2 years)
He was in Wheat Ridge, Co. But California wouldn't surprise me. Keep us informed - I never did find out why he ran away from home, but I have my theories. No, I don't think I'll share.
Linda,

Bill Little recalls that John's father was at the Ben Franklin store in Orange which closed shortly after Bill came to work at WJMA.

Ross


Re: Pat Watson

Barbara Potter-Drinkwater
 

In a message dated 5/18/2003 8:04:52 PM Central Daylight Time,
xhunter@... writes:



I told Roger about this list, but he does not have email. I offered
to print out the earlier emails about Pat Watson. Roger gave me his
Postal Service address. If you like to contribute something new about
Pat (or Roger), I'll be sure he gets a copy.

Ross
Be sure to share with Roger about our Pat Watson tree. And do we all want to
get together at Alan's and my farm, just 1/2 mile north of the Gordonsville
circle sometime over the Labor Day weekend for a reunion? Looks like Alan is
able to retire by then and we will be in Virginia forever....(what a plan!)
Anyone interested in helping...RyeGrass Rollers playing? ...a volleyball
net...have a pool and hottub, and hope to have a rowboat for the pond, and
fishing. (throw back style)
Who you are makes a difference,
Love, Willow

wild crafted nutrition for wellness
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1-800-927-2527, ext. 03969 (voice mail) 585-746-8019 (cell)


Pat Watson

Ross Hunter <xhunter@...>
 

I mentioned in an earlier email that I ran into Roger Anderson tonight at a visitation in Madison. It was quite a crowd. It took over an hour to get through the line to the family. You may remember Madison attorney Tom Province. His son David, just 28 years old, died.

Roger was there because David was a big fan of Madison County sports and often gave Roger a hard time when Roger officiated games. It was all in good fun Roger said.

I told Roger about this list, but he does not have email. I offered to print out the earlier emails about Pat Watson. Roger gave me his Postal Service address. If you like to contribute something new about Pat (or Roger), I'll be sure he gets a copy.

Ross
71-86


new member

Ross Hunter <xhunter@...>
 

I ran into another WJMA alum tonight at a visitation at Preddy's in Madison. Ann Benziner worked in sales in the 1980s. Welcome to the list.

I also saw Roger Anderson at the visitation. More in a future email

Ross
71-86


Re: Cregg

Seth Williamson <seth@...>
 

On Sat, 2003-05-17 at 12:28, lwestby2002@... wrote:

I have never forgotten the time he set my newscast copy on fire when I
had just started the half-hour news block at 6 pm. This would have been
in 1967.

I won't say I was traumatized by the event. On the other hand, it made
a big enough impression that I still remember it vividly.


Seth Williamson




Hi arch; & gang
Your memory is great Arch, just a few MINOR adjustments,
John's father worked for May Rudasill (sp). Unfortunately he
contracted cancer and had to retire. They moved to C'vlle.
because John's mom was secretary to the President of the U.

The last I heard from John which was a LONG LONG time ago (he
wrote to find out if we were divorced yet! - Only for 2 years)
He was in Wheat Ridge, Co. But California wouldn't surprise me. Keep us informed - I never did find out why he ran away from home, but I have my theories. No, I don't think I'll share.


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Re: DC radio folks

R Roberts <russroberts@...>
 

Chet,

You wrote: "The current generations, of whatever period, take some time
to learn that they are only custodians or guardians of freedom and the
physical bounty that surrounds us," to which I add, "and then in that
moment of realization, like spawning salmon, they die." Is there any
hope?

Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: Chet Burgess [mailto:chetburgess@...]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 11:13 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: RE: [WJMA] DC radio folks

Russ,

If only the idea of "low impact" use of the planet would catch on. The
current generations, of whatever period, take some time to learn that
they
are only custodians or guardians -- of freedom and the physical bounty
that
surrounds us.

chet
-----Original Message-----
From: R Roberts [mailto:russroberts@...]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 4:44 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: RE: [WJMA] DC radio folks


Chet,

I don't know if it was my "love of creating other voices" or my Love
of
Larceny! In my "formative years" I took a rather liberal approach to
appropriating good ideas from my betters.

Regarding your "another conservative leaning toward Libertarian:"

Some time ago, I think it was Patricia who wrote here a phrase I first
read in a James Michener novel. "He who is young and not a liberal
has
no heart. He who is older and is not a conservative has no brain." I
thought about that this week as I took a roundtrip drive from
Anchorage
to Fairbanks. Alaska is a state with a large number of self described
"conservatives." I think they would be better defined as libertarians
in that they believe in the rights of the individual to do as he
pleases
with his person and property.

I, too, have that leaning. However.

I wonder about the rights of an individual and a society to pollute my
eyes with junk and unbridled development. In Alaska it is cool to
save
every object that ever touched one's hands. You place it (whether
junk
boat, airplane, old car or fish wheel) beside the house and then head
out to help the state build another four lane road (with accompanying
bike path) through the wilderness. This is done to be dead sure my
view
of Mt. McKinley contains major reminders of man's ability to screw up
God's creation.

I question Ayn Rand's vision of unthrottled human ambition. We have
yet
to cure our myopia. We cannot see much beyond our own nose when it
comes to seeing how our "progress" affects all life on earth.

Alaska has a visible reminder of our lack of wisdom. Splitting the
state from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez is the Alyeska Pipeline. It is an
ugly
scar that is a fitting metaphor of the split in our psyche between
being
monsters and angels.

How do we develop our individual ambition in a way that includes an
awareness of the need to conserve beauty and resources for all
(including caribou and lichens) who will live after us?

I am finding I'm in a third wave. I've gone from "Liberal with a
heart"
to "Conservative/Libertarian with a brain" to something that contains
both. Could it be the beginning of wisdom? Is that called "being an
old man?"

Russ Roberts
72-88(?)



-----Original Message-----
From: Chet Burgess [mailto:chetburgess@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:21 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: RE: [WJMA] DC radio folks


Russ,

I always wondered where you acquired your love of creating voices of
other
(fictitious) personalities!

Chet
(another conservative leaning toward Libertarian)
-----Original Message-----
From: R Roberts [mailto:russroberts@...]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 7:55 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: RE: [WJMA] DC radio folks


I'd been working on WJMA for about six months when my grandmother
decided I needed to be introduced to a "real" radio person, someone
who
might guide me toward success. She was acquainted with Jackson
Weaver
through a friendship with his daughter. So, the next thing I knew I
was
in WMAL's studio on a Saturday morning. Weaver was working without
Hardin (out golfing or something). For a half hour I watched and
listened; Jackson's multiple personality "order" in evidence (he was
a
whiz at ad libbing in other voices, sounding similar to Jonathan
Winters).

Hardin: "We'll be back shortly."

Weaver (as old lady): "Why can't you come back the same size you
are
now?"

Weaver asked eighteen years old me about my dreams of becoming a
radio
announcer. He said he'd be happy to point me in the right
direction.
When I told him I was already working at WJMA he said something that
boosted my confidence. "You're already working? Well, you're on
the
road. Getting that first job is 90% of success in this business.
You
don't need me to tell you what to do. You're already doing it!"

Russ Roberts
72-88(?)



-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Harrison [mailto:g-c-harrison@...]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:09 AM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: Re: [WJMA] DC radio folks

Weaver (who by the way was the voice of Smokey the Bear) has been
dead
for
about the last 5 years or so. I think Hardin passed in the last
couple
of
years.

Gary Harrison

At 07:44 AM 5/9/2003, you wrote:
> >WJMA@... writes:
> >>are Hardin and Weaver still around? Didn't the guy on WGMS die
> >>at the mike?
> >
> >
> >Dennis Owens, long-time morning man for WGMS, retired late last
year
but
> >is stil very much among us. Bill Cerri of WETA-FM had a heart
attack
on
> >the air about 10 years ago and was dead before the paramedics
arrived.
> >WETA still does a major remote production of "Christmas in
August"
at
the
> >Sylvan Theater every year in Bill's honor.
> >
> >I'm enjoying the list although I'm obliged to lurk more than I
participate.
> >
> >Best, . . . Cathy Wills Christovich
>
>Cathy,
>
>Thanks for correcting my memory. This is why I don't do news.
Facts,
>what facts. I thought...
>
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Re: Cregg

lwestby2002@...
 

Hi arch; & gang
Your memory is great Arch, just a few MINOR adjustments,
John's father worked for May Rudasill (sp). Unfortunately he
contracted cancer and had to retire. They moved to C'vlle.
because John's mom was secretary to the President of the U.

The last I heard from John which was a LONG LONG time ago (he
wrote to find out if we were divorced yet! - Only for 2 years)
He was in Wheat Ridge, Co. But California wouldn't surprise me. Keep us informed - I never did find out why he ran away from home, but I have my theories. No, I don't think I'll share.


Re: DC radio folks

Chet Burgess <chetburgess@...>
 

Russ,

If only the idea of "low impact" use of the planet would catch on. The
current generations, of whatever period, take some time to learn that they
are only custodians or guardians -- of freedom and the physical bounty that
surrounds us.

chet

-----Original Message-----
From: R Roberts [mailto:russroberts@...]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 4:44 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: RE: [WJMA] DC radio folks


Chet,

I don't know if it was my "love of creating other voices" or my Love of
Larceny! In my "formative years" I took a rather liberal approach to
appropriating good ideas from my betters.

Regarding your "another conservative leaning toward Libertarian:"

Some time ago, I think it was Patricia who wrote here a phrase I first
read in a James Michener novel. "He who is young and not a liberal has
no heart. He who is older and is not a conservative has no brain." I
thought about that this week as I took a roundtrip drive from Anchorage
to Fairbanks. Alaska is a state with a large number of self described
"conservatives." I think they would be better defined as libertarians
in that they believe in the rights of the individual to do as he pleases
with his person and property.

I, too, have that leaning. However.

I wonder about the rights of an individual and a society to pollute my
eyes with junk and unbridled development. In Alaska it is cool to save
every object that ever touched one's hands. You place it (whether junk
boat, airplane, old car or fish wheel) beside the house and then head
out to help the state build another four lane road (with accompanying
bike path) through the wilderness. This is done to be dead sure my view
of Mt. McKinley contains major reminders of man's ability to screw up
God's creation.

I question Ayn Rand's vision of unthrottled human ambition. We have yet
to cure our myopia. We cannot see much beyond our own nose when it
comes to seeing how our "progress" affects all life on earth.

Alaska has a visible reminder of our lack of wisdom. Splitting the
state from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez is the Alyeska Pipeline. It is an ugly
scar that is a fitting metaphor of the split in our psyche between being
monsters and angels.

How do we develop our individual ambition in a way that includes an
awareness of the need to conserve beauty and resources for all
(including caribou and lichens) who will live after us?

I am finding I'm in a third wave. I've gone from "Liberal with a heart"
to "Conservative/Libertarian with a brain" to something that contains
both. Could it be the beginning of wisdom? Is that called "being an
old man?"

Russ Roberts
72-88(?)



-----Original Message-----
From: Chet Burgess [mailto:chetburgess@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:21 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: RE: [WJMA] DC radio folks


Russ,

I always wondered where you acquired your love of creating voices of
other
(fictitious) personalities!

Chet
(another conservative leaning toward Libertarian)
-----Original Message-----
From: R Roberts [mailto:russroberts@...]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 7:55 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: RE: [WJMA] DC radio folks


I'd been working on WJMA for about six months when my grandmother
decided I needed to be introduced to a "real" radio person, someone
who
might guide me toward success. She was acquainted with Jackson Weaver
through a friendship with his daughter. So, the next thing I knew I
was
in WMAL's studio on a Saturday morning. Weaver was working without
Hardin (out golfing or something). For a half hour I watched and
listened; Jackson's multiple personality "order" in evidence (he was a
whiz at ad libbing in other voices, sounding similar to Jonathan
Winters).

Hardin: "We'll be back shortly."

Weaver (as old lady): "Why can't you come back the same size you are
now?"

Weaver asked eighteen years old me about my dreams of becoming a radio
announcer. He said he'd be happy to point me in the right direction.
When I told him I was already working at WJMA he said something that
boosted my confidence. "You're already working? Well, you're on the
road. Getting that first job is 90% of success in this business. You
don't need me to tell you what to do. You're already doing it!"

Russ Roberts
72-88(?)



-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Harrison [mailto:g-c-harrison@...]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:09 AM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: Re: [WJMA] DC radio folks

Weaver (who by the way was the voice of Smokey the Bear) has been dead
for
about the last 5 years or so. I think Hardin passed in the last couple
of
years.

Gary Harrison

At 07:44 AM 5/9/2003, you wrote:
> >WJMA@... writes:
> >>are Hardin and Weaver still around? Didn't the guy on WGMS die
> >>at the mike?
> >
> >
> >Dennis Owens, long-time morning man for WGMS, retired late last
year
but
> >is stil very much among us. Bill Cerri of WETA-FM had a heart
attack
on
> >the air about 10 years ago and was dead before the paramedics
arrived.
> >WETA still does a major remote production of "Christmas in August"
at
the
> >Sylvan Theater every year in Bill's honor.
> >
> >I'm enjoying the list although I'm obliged to lurk more than I
participate.
> >
> >Best, . . . Cathy Wills Christovich
>
>Cathy,
>
>Thanks for correcting my memory. This is why I don't do news. Facts,
>what facts. I thought...
>
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Re: DC radio folks

R Roberts <russroberts@...>
 

Chet,

I don't know if it was my "love of creating other voices" or my Love of
Larceny! In my "formative years" I took a rather liberal approach to
appropriating good ideas from my betters.

Regarding your "another conservative leaning toward Libertarian:"

Some time ago, I think it was Patricia who wrote here a phrase I first
read in a James Michener novel. "He who is young and not a liberal has
no heart. He who is older and is not a conservative has no brain." I
thought about that this week as I took a roundtrip drive from Anchorage
to Fairbanks. Alaska is a state with a large number of self described
"conservatives." I think they would be better defined as libertarians
in that they believe in the rights of the individual to do as he pleases
with his person and property.

I, too, have that leaning. However.

I wonder about the rights of an individual and a society to pollute my
eyes with junk and unbridled development. In Alaska it is cool to save
every object that ever touched one's hands. You place it (whether junk
boat, airplane, old car or fish wheel) beside the house and then head
out to help the state build another four lane road (with accompanying
bike path) through the wilderness. This is done to be dead sure my view
of Mt. McKinley contains major reminders of man's ability to screw up
God's creation.

I question Ayn Rand's vision of unthrottled human ambition. We have yet
to cure our myopia. We cannot see much beyond our own nose when it
comes to seeing how our "progress" affects all life on earth.

Alaska has a visible reminder of our lack of wisdom. Splitting the
state from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez is the Alyeska Pipeline. It is an ugly
scar that is a fitting metaphor of the split in our psyche between being
monsters and angels.

How do we develop our individual ambition in a way that includes an
awareness of the need to conserve beauty and resources for all
(including caribou and lichens) who will live after us?

I am finding I'm in a third wave. I've gone from "Liberal with a heart"
to "Conservative/Libertarian with a brain" to something that contains
both. Could it be the beginning of wisdom? Is that called "being an
old man?"

Russ Roberts
72-88(?)

-----Original Message-----
From: Chet Burgess [mailto:chetburgess@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:21 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: RE: [WJMA] DC radio folks


Russ,

I always wondered where you acquired your love of creating voices of
other
(fictitious) personalities!

Chet
(another conservative leaning toward Libertarian)
-----Original Message-----
From: R Roberts [mailto:russroberts@...]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 7:55 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: RE: [WJMA] DC radio folks


I'd been working on WJMA for about six months when my grandmother
decided I needed to be introduced to a "real" radio person, someone
who
might guide me toward success. She was acquainted with Jackson Weaver
through a friendship with his daughter. So, the next thing I knew I
was
in WMAL's studio on a Saturday morning. Weaver was working without
Hardin (out golfing or something). For a half hour I watched and
listened; Jackson's multiple personality "order" in evidence (he was a
whiz at ad libbing in other voices, sounding similar to Jonathan
Winters).

Hardin: "We'll be back shortly."

Weaver (as old lady): "Why can't you come back the same size you are
now?"

Weaver asked eighteen years old me about my dreams of becoming a radio
announcer. He said he'd be happy to point me in the right direction.
When I told him I was already working at WJMA he said something that
boosted my confidence. "You're already working? Well, you're on the
road. Getting that first job is 90% of success in this business. You
don't need me to tell you what to do. You're already doing it!"

Russ Roberts
72-88(?)



-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Harrison [mailto:g-c-harrison@...]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:09 AM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: Re: [WJMA] DC radio folks

Weaver (who by the way was the voice of Smokey the Bear) has been dead
for
about the last 5 years or so. I think Hardin passed in the last couple
of
years.

Gary Harrison

At 07:44 AM 5/9/2003, you wrote:
> >WJMA@... writes:
> >>are Hardin and Weaver still around? Didn't the guy on WGMS die
> >>at the mike?
> >
> >
> >Dennis Owens, long-time morning man for WGMS, retired late last
year
but
> >is stil very much among us. Bill Cerri of WETA-FM had a heart
attack
on
> >the air about 10 years ago and was dead before the paramedics
arrived.
> >WETA still does a major remote production of "Christmas in August"
at
the
> >Sylvan Theater every year in Bill's honor.
> >
> >I'm enjoying the list although I'm obliged to lurk more than I
participate.
> >
> >Best, . . . Cathy Wills Christovich
>
>Cathy,
>
>Thanks for correcting my memory. This is why I don't do news. Facts,
>what facts. I thought...
>
>Lurkers welcome. Just check in once in a while to let us know you are
>OK and don't need anything.
>
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Re: DC radio folks

Chet Burgess <chetburgess@...>
 

Russ,

I always wondered where you acquired your love of creating voices of other
(fictitious) personalities!

Chet
(another conservative leaning toward Libertarian)

-----Original Message-----
From: R Roberts [mailto:russroberts@...]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 7:55 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: RE: [WJMA] DC radio folks


I'd been working on WJMA for about six months when my grandmother
decided I needed to be introduced to a "real" radio person, someone who
might guide me toward success. She was acquainted with Jackson Weaver
through a friendship with his daughter. So, the next thing I knew I was
in WMAL's studio on a Saturday morning. Weaver was working without
Hardin (out golfing or something). For a half hour I watched and
listened; Jackson's multiple personality "order" in evidence (he was a
whiz at ad libbing in other voices, sounding similar to Jonathan
Winters).

Hardin: "We'll be back shortly."

Weaver (as old lady): "Why can't you come back the same size you are
now?"

Weaver asked eighteen years old me about my dreams of becoming a radio
announcer. He said he'd be happy to point me in the right direction.
When I told him I was already working at WJMA he said something that
boosted my confidence. "You're already working? Well, you're on the
road. Getting that first job is 90% of success in this business. You
don't need me to tell you what to do. You're already doing it!"

Russ Roberts
72-88(?)



-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Harrison [mailto:g-c-harrison@...]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:09 AM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: Re: [WJMA] DC radio folks

Weaver (who by the way was the voice of Smokey the Bear) has been dead
for
about the last 5 years or so. I think Hardin passed in the last couple
of
years.

Gary Harrison

At 07:44 AM 5/9/2003, you wrote:
> >WJMA@... writes:
> >>are Hardin and Weaver still around? Didn't the guy on WGMS die
> >>at the mike?
> >
> >
> >Dennis Owens, long-time morning man for WGMS, retired late last year
but
> >is stil very much among us. Bill Cerri of WETA-FM had a heart attack
on
> >the air about 10 years ago and was dead before the paramedics
arrived.
> >WETA still does a major remote production of "Christmas in August" at
the
> >Sylvan Theater every year in Bill's honor.
> >
> >I'm enjoying the list although I'm obliged to lurk more than I
participate.
> >
> >Best, . . . Cathy Wills Christovich
>
>Cathy,
>
>Thanks for correcting my memory. This is why I don't do news. Facts,
>what facts. I thought...
>
>Lurkers welcome. Just check in once in a while to let us know you are
>OK and don't need anything.
>
>Ross
>71-86
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Re: Rifle Colorado

Chet Burgess <chetburgess@...>
 

Bob,

My apologies for the three-month delay in responding to your message. I
just came up for air after the end of the tax filing season (new business,
solo tax preparer).

Yes, the people out on the Western Slope are very hospitable folks. I am
not sure that I ever fished Sweetwater Lake, but the name sounds familiar.
I expect my grandmother did. She kept two freezers in her garage full of
venison, elk and trout.

regards,
chet

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Traister [mailto:dxcc@...]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:11 PM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: [WJMA] Re: Rifle Colorado


Chet:

I was surprised to hear you mention that Rifle, Colorado was your
hometown.
In 1987 and 1988, I was hunting elk about 17 miles North of the Rifle exit
off of I-70. Are you or were you familiar with the Sweetwater Cow Camp or
Sweetwater lake? We hunted next to the cow camp at about 9,000 feet
elevation. Other names/sites that spring to mind are the Diamond "J"
Saloon
in Eagle and the liquor store in that same town that was owned by a nice
old
guy named George. He made his freezer available to us to for our butchered
elk meat, even though we were absolute strangers. We sure did meet a lot
of
nice people in that area, including an ancient lady who was locally known
as
the "Eagle Greeter."

The first year we were there, we made a friend named Mike, who was the
boss
cowboy at the cow camp. For $25, he packed our elk meat out on horseback.
When we came back the second year (1988) We were saddened to learn that,
just prior to our arrival, he had been involved in a fight in Rifle or
Eagle
and had, mysteriously, died in jail.

It is, indeed, a small world.

...bob




----- Original Message -----
From: "Chet Burgess" <chetburgess@...>
To: <WJMA@...>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:35 PM
Subject: RE: [WJMA] Re: Arch, you win!!!


> When I was growing up out in Colorado, the tracks of the Denver and Rio
> Grande Western ran through my hometown of Rifle. The locals pronounced
it
> REYE-oh. It saved my father from a speeding ticket one day years later
when
> he and my mother were driving from Virginia to visit her parents, one of
> whom was ill. A Colorado trooper pulled them over and my father
explained
> they were former locals in a hurry to reach an ailing parent and perhaps
> hadn't been paying close attention to the speedometer. The trooper
said,
> "if you're a former Rifle resident, tell me than name of that railroad"
as
> he pointed at the tracks. My father said, "That's the Denver and
REYE-oh
> Grande Western." The trooper said, "You're local, all right. Drive
> safely," and sent them on their way. Proper pronunciation can save you
> money!
>
> chet
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R Roberts [mailto:russroberts@...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:11 PM
> To: WJMA@...
> Subject: RE: [WJMA] Re: Arch, you win!!!
>




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Re: Cregg

Arch Harrison <ah7q@...>
 

Last month - as you remember - I was trying to recall something about the
elusive John Cregg. My memory is fragile, but I can augment my posting from
Digest number 78 item number 754:

Ol'JJC gave his notice, said he had a job with Voice of America, we sent him
on his way with suitable fanfare. About two days later I had a call from
Linda, "Have you heard anything from John?"

Turns out there was no job at The Voice, he just took off!
Some time later I got a letter from him posted from Denver CO where he was
working for the USPO or maybe a Seven Eleven, explaining the circumstances
of his mysterious departure which I can no longer recall. I am a pack rat
and for years kept that letter but for the past month I've been unable to
unearth it from my "Deep Past" boxes of memorabilia, hence the delay in my
contributions.

Recently I called Duff Green, who Knows Everything, seeking information.
Nothing so far. Duff says his recollection is that John's father was
employed by the Orange County School Board. When John's mother died some ten
years ago her obit said he was living in California and his sister lived in
Virgnia Beach.

But the trail has gone cold for the moment.

Stay tuned. a r c h


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--Old announcer adage.
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Re: DC radio folks

R Roberts <russroberts@...>
 

I'd been working on WJMA for about six months when my grandmother
decided I needed to be introduced to a "real" radio person, someone who
might guide me toward success. She was acquainted with Jackson Weaver
through a friendship with his daughter. So, the next thing I knew I was
in WMAL's studio on a Saturday morning. Weaver was working without
Hardin (out golfing or something). For a half hour I watched and
listened; Jackson's multiple personality "order" in evidence (he was a
whiz at ad libbing in other voices, sounding similar to Jonathan
Winters).

Hardin: "We'll be back shortly."

Weaver (as old lady): "Why can't you come back the same size you are
now?"

Weaver asked eighteen years old me about my dreams of becoming a radio
announcer. He said he'd be happy to point me in the right direction.
When I told him I was already working at WJMA he said something that
boosted my confidence. "You're already working? Well, you're on the
road. Getting that first job is 90% of success in this business. You
don't need me to tell you what to do. You're already doing it!"

Russ Roberts
72-88(?)

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Harrison [mailto:g-c-harrison@...]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:09 AM
To: WJMA@...
Subject: Re: [WJMA] DC radio folks

Weaver (who by the way was the voice of Smokey the Bear) has been dead
for
about the last 5 years or so. I think Hardin passed in the last couple
of
years.

Gary Harrison

At 07:44 AM 5/9/2003, you wrote:
WJMA@... writes:
are Hardin and Weaver still around? Didn't the guy on WGMS die
at the mike?

Dennis Owens, long-time morning man for WGMS, retired late last year
but
is stil very much among us. Bill Cerri of WETA-FM had a heart attack
on
the air about 10 years ago and was dead before the paramedics
arrived.
WETA still does a major remote production of "Christmas in August" at
the
Sylvan Theater every year in Bill's honor.

I'm enjoying the list although I'm obliged to lurk more than I
participate.

Best, . . . Cathy Wills Christovich
Cathy,

Thanks for correcting my memory. This is why I don't do news. Facts,
what facts. I thought...

Lurkers welcome. Just check in once in a while to let us know you are
OK and don't need anything.

Ross
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