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By: Rik Bos


Evaluating need for HPIB/GPIB printer emulation

Ansgar
 

Dear Vintagers,

just got the question from another conversation whether it would make sense to create a HPIB/GPIB based printer emulation (much like HPDrive for mass storage, for those who know it).

I myself until now didn't care too much about it, but the request came from the measuring side, where output from the equipment needs some sink to send it to. Emulation isn't completely trivial, since HP implemented several printer functions redundantly as HPIB/GPIB messages as well as escape sequences, and directing the properly processed output to a real printer also would not be that easy, especially if graphics are in play. On the other side at least the escape sequences differ not too much along the diverse printer models.

Now, if it works out that having a - say - HPPrint is worth doing it, next question would be which models should be first to support (my favorites are the Thinkjet (2225), the 2631 impact printer and possibly the 9876 thermal printer, mainly because they are supported by most of the vintage applications). Looking forward to your opinions & suggestions.

-Ansgar


Re: RTE-A on an HP 1000 A600+ (new video) #HP1000

Ansgar
 

Cool video, and many thanks for the great demo! Please more of this...

-Ansgar


HP-98770 flyback transformer

François Lanciault
 

Hi,

I realize that individuals that can help me with this will be few (to say the least), but I was wondering if someone with a HP-98770 color monitor could take one or two closeup pictures of the flyback transformer. I am trying to get a replacement but, more than two years of research with the HP custom part number have yield no results. My hope is that there might be other markings on it that could pinpoint me to an equivalent replacement part; maybe it is manufactured by some other company ?

Obviously, if anyone have a spare (complete with the board to witch it is mounted), you just have to name your price! (Sudden silence with sporadic faint crickets sound)

François


Re: RTE-A on an HP 1000 A600+ (new video) #HP1000

Grant
 

Great video, great timing for me as I have just got my E all set up with RTE 6/VM ,basic 1000d and I just compiled kermit with FTN7X and now trying to write some code for my 91200 video cards.


RTE-A on an HP 1000 A600+ (new video) #HP1000

Colin Eby
 

Just posted an RTE-centric YouTube video.  Hopefully I got most of the facts right.  It does include a short demo session of using the system.

https://youtu.be/nWJoUVBR9CY

Kind regards, 
Colin


Re: HP3000 987SX

 

I mean for the BDI side. For the SVC side they mostly ship of course.


Re: HP3000 987SX

 

Dave,
That could very well be. I had no experience with their shipping, as I always pick up directly from them - local pickup is most of their business I believe.


Re: HP3000 987SX

 

On 9/24/20 11:02 AM, Ken Seefried wrote:
I've bought a few things from SVC on eBay.  This is my anecdata...YMMV. All of the items, I made an offer in the 50-75% of list range they took, including a bit of relatively bulky test gear.   The shipping was "high", for some values of high, but the items arrived in reasonable time and were well packaged.
You get what you pay for...far too many free/cheap shippers just grab whatever box they have laying around, some old bubble wrap/foam blocks/newspaper and toss the item in.  And it's not like the myriad of sellers I see shilling $20 items with $132 shipping.
I agree. My comments about SVC gouging on shipping aren't me being a cheap-ass...people who know me would laugh at that suggestion. ;) They regularly charge $40+ to ship a single CAMAC board, something I buy a lot of, and they flatly refuse to combine shipping.

All of this was in the past, though, at least two years ago; I've ignored their listings after a few screwings on my assumption that they'd be decent and put two boards in one box.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: HP3000 987SX

Ken Seefried
 

I've bought a few things from SVC on eBay.  This is my anecdata...YMMV. All of the items, I made an offer in the 50-75% of list range they took, including a bit of relatively bulky test gear.   The shipping was "high", for some values of high, but the items arrived in reasonable time and were well packaged. 

You get what you pay for...far too many free/cheap shippers just grab whatever box they have laying around, some old bubble wrap/foam blocks/newspaper and toss the item in.  And it's not like the myriad of sellers I see shilling $20 items with $132 shipping.

KJ


Re: HP3000 987SX

Philip Freidin
 

Hi Dave,

Auction-BDI and SVC operate differently, in that one sells as a real
bricks and mortar auction site (BDI) that is selling items provided by
other companies for resale by auction, and the other (SVC) has both
local sales and eBay presence and is selling their own stock.
The item lists are separate.

With regards to BDI, they accept all offers over $25, it's called a bid.
As I am local, I just drive over to pick up my "winnings"
I always bid low, and sometimes I am unlucky and win and have to find
somewhere to store the stuff somewhere. Fortunately I am totally out
of space, so I didn't bid on this system 2 weeks ago, as I would have
won it with a $25 bid. Just lucky  :-)

Philip


On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:53 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:
Perhaps I should give them another look, then. My experience with
them is that they gouge on shipping, don't combine shipping (on little
things like boards), and ignore offers. Maybe they've improved their
stance in the past few years that I've been ignoring them.

-Dave


Re: HP3000 987SX

Philip Freidin
 

FYI,

There were two bidders. Non winner bid $275, high bidder bid something above
that and won with $276 +25% +10% == about $380

Philip


Re: HP3000 987SX

 

On 9/23/20 1:43 PM, CuriousMarc wrote:
Also I have bought from these guys many times. Reputable vendor, easy to deal with. It’s the auction arm of the eBay vendor SVC Silicon Valley Compucycle, also one of the best professional eBayer I have dealt with.
Perhaps I should give them another look, then. My experience with them is that they gouge on shipping, don't combine shipping (on little things like boards), and ignore offers. Maybe they've improved their stance in the past few years that I've been ignoring them.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: HP3000 987SX

 

Also I have bought from these guys many times. Reputable vendor, easy to deal with. It’s the auction arm of the eBay vendor SVC Silicon Valley Compucycle, also one of the best professional eBayer I have dealt with.
Marc


Re: HP3000 987SX

Stephen Hanselman
 

Probably not unless you want some HP iron. This was a PA-RISC box and being the “8” variant was a fairly good sized one, there was also 917, 927, 937, etc.

I’m going to forward this to a computer museum that we sent all of our HP computers to. 

Regards,

 

Stephen Hanselman

Datagate Systems, LLC




On Sep 21, 2020, at 21:46, Philip Freidin <philip@...> wrote:

A local auction has an HP3000 987SX in what looks like a 6 foot high rack, with
a DLT 4000 with maybe 6 drive and 
HP 2345A Distributed Terminal Controller DTC 24 Ports.
This was up for auction 2 weeks ago and no-one was willing to make the minimal
bid of $25. (about $37 after tax and tip). Weighs 552 lb. I know nothing more
about this system.

Is this system of any value?

Philip


Re: HP3000 987SX

 

On September 22, 2020 12:46:22 AM "Philip Freidin" <philip@...> wrote:
A local auction has an HP3000 987SX in what looks like a 6 foot high rack, with
a DLT 4000 with maybe 6 drive and HP 2345A Distributed Terminal Controller DTC 24 Ports.
This was up for auction 2 weeks ago and no-one was willing to make the minimal
bid of $25. (about $37 after tax and tip). Weighs 552 lb. I know nothing more
about this system.

Is this system of any value?
Are you kidding?? Man I'd be there with bells on (and not much else!) with a van to pick that up for the museum if it were in this half of the US!

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: HP3000 987SX

Philip Freidin
 

Sorry David,

Silicon Valley California. Auction ends September 23rd at 1:30 PM PST (California time)

https://auctionbdi.hibid.com/   

Lot 16  Since there are no pics of what's inside, this might be an empty husk or
it might be a system just waiting for power, or anything in between.

Note auction details, all winning bids have a buyer's 
premium added of 25%.
So if you win bidding $100, the total bid is $125, and then add about 10% CA
sales tax (so about $12.50) for final $137.50

Philip


Re: HP3000 987SX

David Collins
 

Depends on what you mean by ‘local’…

 

 

 

From: VintHPcom@groups.io <VintHPcom@groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Freidin
Sent: Saturday, 19 September 2020 10:50 AM
To: VintHPcom@groups.io
Subject: [VintHPcom] HP3000 987SX

 

A local auction has an HP3000 987SX in what looks like a 6 foot high rack, with
a DLT 4000 with maybe 6 drive and HP 2345A Distributed Terminal Controller DTC 24 Ports.
This was up for auction 2 weeks ago and no-one was willing to make the minimal
bid of $25. (about $37 after tax and tip). Weighs 552 lb. I know nothing more
about this system.

Is this system of any value?

Philip


HP3000 987SX

Philip Freidin
 

A local auction has an HP3000 987SX in what looks like a 6 foot high rack, with
a DLT 4000 with maybe 6 drive and 
HP 2345A Distributed Terminal Controller DTC 24 Ports.
This was up for auction 2 weeks ago and no-one was willing to make the minimal
bid of $25. (about $37 after tax and tip). Weighs 552 lb. I know nothing more
about this system.

Is this system of any value?

Philip


Re: HP2641A APL Terminal

Gavin Scott
 

Switching ATC ports 1-15 on the 3000 simulator to REMOTEACK did indeed solve all the flow control issues for the HP 264x terminal emulators.

If anyone would like the updated version with the flow control fixed on the 3000, I built a version 1.5a of my complete classic 3000 distribution, presently available at:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vKqISTtZYjQyRsJ5a4vf5w9b9nqKNLpg

This is an 8MB HP 3000 Series III+ (the original only supported up to 2MB) circa 1979 with five HP 7925 disks loaded with MPE V/R from 1986, a massive amount of Contributed Software Library contents including many of the most iconic computer games (Advent, Dungeon (Zork), TREK73, Empire, Mystery Mansion, DROID, Warp, etc.) as well as the APL, BASIC, BASICOMP, COBOL, COBOL II, RPG, SPL, and FORTRAN 66 language subsystems, IMAGE database, etc. It makes quite a nice little personal mainframe (ok, it was a minicomputer but it looks pretty good functionality wise alongside the big hardware of the day being very user friendly and approachable in comparison). The MAME HP 2645A and HP 2641A are bundled in and only a double-click away. It's completely turnkey and set up to be ready to run. See the README.txt for instructions. Requires Windows.

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