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Re: HP BASIC 5.1 and 4 MB RAM - a new DIO combo board

HP75_8687
 

This board will work fine in any series 200 machine (9826, 9836, 9920, 9000/237, 9816 or 9000/217) as well as in a 310 or 320.

From 330 on, memory extensions are plugged into the main board, slow DIO-I memory cards won’t work. For those computers, hard disk based BASIC 6.2 would be the better choice.

Especially recommended is to plug the board into a 9816, since this compact computer only features two DIO slots.

 

 

 

Von: VintHPcom@groups.io [mailto:VintHPcom@groups.io] Im Auftrag von Lee A. White
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2019 00:37
An: VintHPcom@groups.io
Betreff: Re: [VintHPcom] HP BASIC 5.1 and 4 MB RAM - a new DIO combo board

 

What different machines will this board plug into and function?

 

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:39 AM

Subject: Re: [VintHPcom] HP BASIC 5.1 and 4 MB RAM - a new DIO combo board

 

I also bought a Basic 5.1 / 4MB combo board from Dominique for my 310 on January.
My 310 had 1MB on-board plus 2 x 1 MB boards. By just reallocating the 1 MB board addresses, I have now a total of 7 MB! The on-board 1 MB space is, apparently, automatically re-allocated.
So we (the 310 and I) are very happy!

J-F


Re: HP BASIC 5.1 and 4 MB RAM - a new DIO combo board

Lee A. White
 

What different machines will this board plug into and function?

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [VintHPcom] HP BASIC 5.1 and 4 MB RAM - a new DIO combo board

I also bought a Basic 5.1 / 4MB combo board from Dominique for my 310 on January.
My 310 had 1MB on-board plus 2 x 1 MB boards. By just reallocating the 1 MB board addresses, I have now a total of 7 MB! The on-board 1 MB space is, apparently, automatically re-allocated.
So we (the 310 and I) are very happy!

J-F


Re: HP BASIC 5.1 and 4 MB RAM - a new DIO combo board

J-F Garnier
 

I also bought a Basic 5.1 / 4MB combo board from Dominique for my 310 on January.
My 310 had 1MB on-board plus 2 x 1 MB boards. By just reallocating the 1 MB board addresses, I have now a total of 7 MB! The on-board 1 MB space is, apparently, automatically re-allocated.
So we (the 310 and I) are very happy!

J-F


Re: HP BASIC 5.1 and 4 MB RAM - a new DIO combo board

 

I just wanted to chime in that I received my board from Dominique a while back.  I configured according to his instructions, popped it in my 9816, and it fired right up with BASIC 5.1.  It's a very nice piece of work.

Dominique has (as of the last email a couple of weeks ago) indicated that he still has a couple of boards left, with BASIC 5.1 and 1MB of RAM.  That would still make a pretty nifty system.  If anyone is interested, email him directly at his email address: dvp800@...

Cheers,

Dave


Re: BASIC for HP 1000, 21xx series #VintageHPComputers

Herschel Keithline
 

, You may have already been to this resource , but if you haven't, here it is:
Lots of stuff there.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:50 AM gerard_constant <gerardCJAT@...> wrote:
@ Marc,
Paul Birkel gives them all, see his post above, thanks.
See ALSO, what answers I got thru CCTALK, also very informative.


Re: BASIC for HP 1000, 21xx series #VintageHPComputers

gerard_constant
 

@ Marc,
Paul Birkel gives them all, see his post above, thanks.
See ALSO, what answers I got thru CCTALK, also very informative.


Re: BASIC for HP 1000, 21xx series #VintageHPComputers

Paul Birkel
 

From: VintHPcom@groups.io [mailto:VintHPcom@groups.io] On Behalf Of CuriousMarc
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:06 AM
To: VintHPcom@groups.io
Subject: Re: [VintHPcom] BASIC for HP 1000, 21xx series #VintageHPComputers

 

Gerard,
Do you have a link?
Marc


Re: BASIC for HP 1000, 21xx series #VintageHPComputers

 

Gerard,
Do you have a link?
Marc


Re: BASIC for HP 1000, 21xx series #VintageHPComputers

 

8k basic which can run in 8k core memory.
You'll also need to install the appropriate SIO drivers for the teletype and io. The 2114/16 pocket guide should help you further.

-Rik




On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 7:06 PM +0100, "gerard_constant" <gerardCJAT@...> wrote:

Thanks.
Seems I have found at least one, ( 8 K Basic ? ) but it was a LONG hunting.
Found it in a sub directory NOT obvious. ( named : JeffM,     's archives, I assume )


Re: BASIC for HP 1000, 21xx series #VintageHPComputers

gerard_constant
 

Thanks.
Seems I have found at least one, ( 8 K Basic ? ) but it was a LONG hunting.
Found it in a sub directory NOT obvious. ( named : JeffM,     's archives, I assume )


Re: BASIC for HP 1000, 21xx series #VintageHPComputers

 

Gerard,

Look at the tape images on bitsavers.

-Rik

-Rik




On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 5:42 PM +0100, "gerard_constant" <gerardCJAT@...> wrote:

Back in ''70, sometimes we were running "basic" BASIC ( NOT Time sharing ) on 2116B, 2100A, just for FUN.

Is there some copy still around ??

I had a look in Google, Bitsavers, HPmuseum, with NO success.

Thank for help and/or advise.


BASIC for HP 1000, 21xx series #VintageHPComputers

gerard_constant
 

Back in ''70, sometimes we were running "basic" BASIC ( NOT Time sharing ) on 2116B, 2100A, just for FUN.

Is there some copy still around ??

I had a look in Google, Bitsavers, HPmuseum, with NO success.

Thank for help and/or advise.


Re: WTB HP 1000, 2113B, 21MX, ... *** EXTENDER CARD **** ( for I/O Cards )

Guy Dunphy
 

At 05:08 PM 22/02/2019 -0800, Stephen Hanselman wrote:
I’m not sure how this will work but.....
The backplanes both front and back are the same as far PIN numbers and spacing goes. There are significant wiring/connection differences in the memory plane and the I/O plane.
So, only one kind of extender card required. Good.

Without knowing what the rom part numbers are I’ll make a guess. The 79XX and the 7905/7920 should talk to the same drives. Although it may be that your computer had a loader that would talk to either CS80 discs or 7906H. I really think you just have two versions of the MAC family loader. The 264X is self explanatory.
See photo here: http://everist.org/NobLog/pics/20131112/IMG_6027_front_panel_tag.jpg

The 7914 is heavy around 175 pounds packed for shipment. Shipping is no problem if the spindle lock and the head lock are engaged. I suspect the cost of shipping is going to be just this side of obscene. $3K by express and $1K by ship w/41 day transit time
Ouch. THAT heavy. And big. Found a photo: https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102704255

I buy gear from the USA now and then, and use Shipito reshipper (in LA, CA) for somewhat better pricing.
But that weight is beyond my means.
Oh well, looks like emulation is the way to go.

Guy


Re: WTB HP 1000, 2113B, 21MX, ... *** EXTENDER CARD **** ( for I/O Cards )

gerard_constant
 

Hi Stephen,
Could you give me / us the HP part number which should be on it, please ?


Re: WTB HP 1000, 2113B, 21MX, ... *** EXTENDER CARD **** ( for I/O Cards )

Stephen Hanselman
 

I’m not sure how this will work but.....

The backplanes both front and back are the same as far PIN numbers and spacing goes. There are significant wiring/connection differences in the memory plane and the I/O plane.

Without knowing what the rom part numbers are I’ll make a guess. The 79XX and the 7905/7920 should talk to the same drives.  Although it may be that your computer had a loader that would talk to either CS80 discs or 7906H. I really think you just have two versions of the MAC family loader.  The 264X is self explanatory. 

The 7914 is heavy around 175 pounds packed for shipment.  Shipping is no problem if the spindle lock and the head lock are engaged.  I suspect the cost of shipping is going to be just this side of obscene.  $3K by express and $1K by ship w/41 day transit time

Regards,

 

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On Feb 22, 2019, at 16:06, Guy Dunphy <guykd@...> wrote:

At 09:36 AM 22/02/2019 -0800, you wrote:
Well, I spoke to soon.  I have found 3 all of which are in dedicated test beds.  I know there are more here but I don't have the time to dig into it, vacation starts Saturday

I'll keep looking and advise the list if I find any.  Any one interested in an operational 2116B?  we also have an operational 7914 plus a bunch of other stuff that either takes up space or is a test set

Steve


Hmm... the front panel of my machine has a 'Loader ROM configuration' label listing 3 devices. None of which I have.
00 264x Terminal
01 -blank-
10 79xx Disk
11 7905/20 Disk

So I'd be interested in your 7914 Disk. But I'm in Australia. I assume you are in the USA. Not sure how shipping
could work (cost and risk of breaking it.)  Atm I'm stretching with costs of some car repairs and registration,
so can't contemplate extra costs just now. But maybe if it's still available in a month or two?

Guy


Re: WTB HP 1000, 2113B, 21MX, ... *** EXTENDER CARD **** ( for I/O Cards )

Guy Dunphy
 

At 09:36 AM 22/02/2019 -0800, you wrote:
Well, I spoke to soon. I have found 3 all of which are in dedicated test beds. I know there are more here but I don't have the time to dig into it, vacation starts Saturday

I'll keep looking and advise the list if I find any. Any one interested in an operational 2116B? we also have an operational 7914 plus a bunch of other stuff that either takes up space or is a test set

Steve

Hmm... the front panel of my machine has a 'Loader ROM configuration' label listing 3 devices. None of which I have.
00 264x Terminal
01 -blank-
10 79xx Disk
11 7905/20 Disk

So I'd be interested in your 7914 Disk. But I'm in Australia. I assume you are in the USA. Not sure how shipping
could work (cost and risk of breaking it.) Atm I'm stretching with costs of some car repairs and registration,
so can't contemplate extra costs just now. But maybe if it's still available in a month or two?

Guy


Re: WTB HP 1000, 2113B, 21MX, ... *** EXTENDER CARD **** ( for I/O Cards )

Guy Dunphy
 

At 08:46 AM 22/02/2019 -0500, you wrote:
It was in his signature on his original message at the beginning of this thread.
It's in the header of _every_ message. Not just mine, but everyone's has their email address, always.
Have people so gotten into the practice of 'hide headers', that they have forgotten
email headers exist?

I keep 'display headers' turned on in my email client, as the headers make scam emails obvious.

Guy


Re: WTB HP 1000, 2113B, 21MX, ... *** EXTENDER CARD **** ( for I/O Cards )

Guy Dunphy
 

At 02:18 AM 22/02/2019 -0800, you wrote:
@ GUY,
You have a nice site, with beautiful pics, Guy . I went through it a month ago. Very nice.
BUT, if you expect answers ( for extenders ), may be you should state your email address ;-)
Thanks! Handcrafted html, none of that auto-generated bloat! :)
And the frequent non-finishing of projects, that's for consistency of style. Really.
No project ever actually dies. They just get hung for longish intervals. Sometimes years.

For anyone else who wishes to admire my mess: http://everist.org/


But my email address... ? Huh? It's in the posting header. I don't understand how you don't see it...

Anyway, ignoring that mystery, here:
To: VintHPcom@groups.io,VintHPcom@groups.io
From: "Guy Dunphy" <guykd@optusnet.com.au>

Are the HP 1000 series extender cards different for the rear IO frame, vs the front
memory and processor-related stuff frame?
My machine is somewhat buried atm, so I can't easily check that.

All the best,
Guy


Re: WTB HP 1000, 2113B, 21MX, ... *** EXTENDER CARD **** ( for I/O Cards )

Stephen Hanselman
 

Well, I spoke to soon. I have found 3 all of which are in dedicated test beds. I know there are more here but I don't have the time to dig into it, vacation starts Saturday

I'll keep looking and advise the list if I find any. Any one interested in an operational 2116B? we also have an operational 7914 plus a bunch of other stuff that either takes up space or is a test set

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: VintHPcom@groups.io <VintHPcom@groups.io> On Behalf Of Guy Dunphy
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 12:36 AM
To: VintHPcom@groups.io; VintHPcom@groups.io
Subject: Re: [VintHPcom] WTB HP 1000, 2113B, 21MX, ... *** EXTENDER CARD **** ( for I/O Cards )

I'm very keen to find extender cards too.
My machine is this: http://everist.org/NobLog/20131112_HP_1000_minicomputer_teardown.htm

It's a HP 1000 E-series. 2113E ?

That project has been frozen for years, but _this_ year will restart. Just have to get some other things done first.

Guy


At 08:49 AM 21/02/2019 -0800, Stephen Hanselman wrote:
I’ll check our stock but I think we have 6 or so, I’ll get you
another email in a little bit

<gerardCJAT@free.fr> wrote:

;-)
If you have one you want / would part with, please, let me know. Thanks !


Re: WTB HP 1000, 2113B, 21MX, ... *** EXTENDER CARD **** ( for I/O Cards )

Paul Birkel
 

It was in his signature on his original message at the beginning of this thread.

 

From: VintHPcom@groups.io [mailto:VintHPcom@groups.io] On Behalf Of gerard_constant
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:18 AM
To: VintHPcom@groups.io
Subject: Re: [VintHPcom] WTB HP 1000, 2113B, 21MX, ... *** EXTENDER CARD **** ( for I/O Cards )

 

@ GUY,
You have a nice site, with beautiful pics, Guy . I went through it a month ago. Very nice.
BUT, if you expect answers ( for extenders ), may be you should state your email address  ;-)

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