Antennhistorier


SM7WT (right) K7BV (left) in Visalia 2010
 

Hej igen! Det var urusla condx i går,. men Bosse, W1OYI peakade stundtals 58. KB4BA och KB4RM 55 som bäst. Peter, du peakade 55 i dag, men mest nere i bruset. Normalt är du 59 här.
Här är de antennhistorier, som jag skickade till N1VR inför Visalia 2010:

SM5CMM

This poor guy has had a fight for 16 years with his neighbor about his tower.
Legislation in Sweden doesn't demand a special permit to install a tower for a ham, but this neighbor of his is an active politician and he managed to get the city to disregard the law and create their own laws. The neighbor complained that there might be interference - being asked if it had ever happened, he admitted it had not. He was also afraid of the radiation! The tower was "ugly" to look at - he couldn't see the antenna, it was higher up, at 60 feet. They forced SM5CMM to remove his tower. SM5CMM then mounted his beam on a 30 feet tube, just above the roof. His "winning" neighbor can now look at the antenna from his kitchen window and be more exposed to the supposedly "dangerous" radiation. Love thy neighbor! Hi!
The photos show SM5CMM´s antenna. The tower which he was compelled to remove is to the left and now instead his neighbor will get a close view of the antenna. You win the battle, but you lose the war, isn't that what they say?

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 SM7WT

My own situation was more or less the same. In 1985, I made the drawings for my tower and went to the local authorities to ask if they were good enough for a building permit. I was told that no building permit was needed so I went home and installed my tower. Our neighbor filed a complaint and one day, I got a letter from the local authorities that I had installed "an illegal radio tower." After spending several hours writing an explanation and waiting nervously for months, I finally got a confirmation from the politicians (!) that no building permit was needed. This is the only time in my life, I can be grateful for something, done by politicians! My neighbor continued to complain about TVI, well aware that the problem was caused by his broad-band amplifier, (produced in Germany, not allowed to be sold in Germany and installed by a German born "technician.") My neighbor didn't allow me to fix the problem and preferred to call me to complain every time I was active. Eventually he contacted the FCC and after their measurements, they told him that I did not transmit any false signals and since he didn't want me to help him, he had to go somewhere else for help. In the past the FCC would solve interference problems, but today they just check the transmitted signal.

 

G0IAS
....So a move to the village of Elkesley,( IO93MG ) where I applied for a Mast for the 2 Cushcraft beams.... problems...
Quote from the Local Council Planning.... "Refused.... a mast being considered as a Dominant feature in a Residential Area, and Detrimental to the Visual Amenities of my neighbours".
In plain English," No, you can't have a mast because they are unsightly"
A little digging into the Planning Act in a Book in the local Library... some hours spent with the help of a Head Planning Officer from the next County, and a letter was sent to the Solicitor for my Local Council, who said I did not even need to APPLY for permission to put a mast up.... If it was mounted on a TRAILER.....!
Easy now... 80 FEET ( about 25 meters) mast on a trailer, 4 X times 19 element Cushcraft stacked and bayed.... I'm in business again ... and NOBODY can stop me, lots of efforts to get the antennas taken down, but as the LEGAL situation was... there was nothing that anyone could do to remove the mast and antennas, they were mounted on a Commercial trailer that I had modified with extra outriggers to spread the wind loading of the Beams. G6YEP is back with a VENGEANCE...
Lots of hams in the UK were given the same advice, if you have problems with the Planning for a FIXED mast, ask the Council Solicitor for a LEGAL determination for a trailer mounted mast... no planning required because it can be moved, so it is NOT permanently sited, this may apply for other Countries as well .... certainly worth looking into if you have Planning objections to a fixed mast.

F8IJV
... I got all the troubles in the world to put up a small 12 meters high tower supporting a 10 M 5 elements yagi in my parents's home. From 1995 to the end of 1999, I've been sued before the justice by the mayor of my village and some neighbors beacuse of my hobby. It has been the worst ham radio period for me and my parents. But, since I did everything respecting the law, I won all cases. As I was a law student, all this has been a « good » practice for me, and made me specialized in administrative and urbanism French law.

 



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Bert VE3NR
 

Hej Sten,

Ja, verkligen usla konds på 20M numera och dåliga signaler överlag.

Intressant läsning om master och antenner. Jag har haft min
beskärda del av detta också, men klarade alla tester som
gjordes av myndighterna. Det tog mig ett par år att reda ut
begreppen, men nu är allt OK. Den klagande parten dog och
huset såldes till mycket trevliga nya grannar! Never give up!

Göran VE3NR


On 5/4/2020 1:08 PM, SM7WT (right) K7BV (left) in Visalia 2010 wrote:

Hej igen! Det var urusla condx i går,. men Bosse, W1OYI peakade stundtals 58. KB4BA och KB4RM 55 som bäst. Peter, du peakade 55 i dag, men mest nere i bruset. Normalt är du 59 här.
Här är de antennhistorier, som jag skickade till N1VR inför Visalia 2010:

SM5CMM

This poor guy has had a fight for 16 years with his neighbor about his tower.
Legislation in Sweden doesn't demand a special permit to install a tower for a ham, but this neighbor of his is an active politician and he managed to get the city to disregard the law and create their own laws. The neighbor complained that there might be interference - being asked if it had ever happened, he admitted it had not. He was also afraid of the radiation! The tower was "ugly" to look at - he couldn't see the antenna, it was higher up, at 60 feet. They forced SM5CMM to remove his tower. SM5CMM then mounted his beam on a 30 feet tube, just above the roof. His "winning" neighbor can now look at the antenna from his kitchen window and be more exposed to the supposedly "dangerous" radiation. Love thy neighbor! Hi!
The photos show SM5CMM´s antenna. The tower which he was compelled to remove is to the left and now instead his neighbor will get a close view of the antenna. You win the battle, but you lose the war, isn't that what they say?

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bild.png

 SM7WT

My own situation was more or less the same. In 1985, I made the drawings for my tower and went to the local authorities to ask if they were good enough for a building permit. I was told that no building permit was needed so I went home and installed my tower. Our neighbor filed a complaint and one day, I got a letter from the local authorities that I had installed "an illegal radio tower." After spending several hours writing an explanation and waiting nervously for months, I finally got a confirmation from the politicians (!) that no building permit was needed. This is the only time in my life, I can be grateful for something, done by politicians! My neighbor continued to complain about TVI, well aware that the problem was caused by his broad-band amplifier, (produced in Germany, not allowed to be sold in Germany and installed by a German born "technician.") My neighbor didn't allow me to fix the problem and preferred to call me to complain every time I was active. Eventually he contacted the FCC and after their measurements, they told him that I did not transmit any false signals and since he didn't want me to help him, he had to go somewhere else for help. In the past the FCC would solve interference problems, but today they just check the transmitted signal.

 

G0IAS
....So a move to the village of Elkesley,( IO93MG ) where I applied for a Mast for the 2 Cushcraft beams.... problems...
Quote from the Local Council Planning.... "Refused.... a mast being considered as a Dominant feature in a Residential Area, and Detrimental to the Visual Amenities of my neighbours".
In plain English," No, you can't have a mast because they are unsightly"
A little digging into the Planning Act in a Book in the local Library... some hours spent with the help of a Head Planning Officer from the next County, and a letter was sent to the Solicitor for my Local Council, who said I did not even need to APPLY for permission to put a mast up.... If it was mounted on a TRAILER.....!
Easy now... 80 FEET ( about 25 meters) mast on a trailer, 4 X times 19 element Cushcraft stacked and bayed.... I'm in business again ... and NOBODY can stop me, lots of efforts to get the antennas taken down, but as the LEGAL situation was... there was nothing that anyone could do to remove the mast and antennas, they were mounted on a Commercial trailer that I had modified with extra outriggers to spread the wind loading of the Beams. G6YEP is back with a VENGEANCE...
Lots of hams in the UK were given the same advice, if you have problems with the Planning for a FIXED mast, ask the Council Solicitor for a LEGAL determination for a trailer mounted mast... no planning required because it can be moved, so it is NOT permanently sited, this may apply for other Countries as well .... certainly worth looking into if you have Planning objections to a fixed mast.

F8IJV
... I got all the troubles in the world to put up a small 12 meters high tower supporting a 10 M 5 elements yagi in my parents's home. From 1995 to the end of 1999, I've been sued before the justice by the mayor of my village and some neighbors beacuse of my hobby. It has been the worst ham radio period for me and my parents. But, since I did everything respecting the law, I won all cases. As I was a law student, all this has been a « good » practice for me, and made me specialized in administrative and urbanism French law.

 



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SM7WT (right) K7BV (left) in Visalia 2010
 

Hej igen Göran! Ack ja, folk verkar vara allergiska mot antenner, men då det händer något allvarligt i USA och samhället lamslås, då är det många, som knackar på dörren till antennägarna och ber om hjälp...
När ditt mail kom satt jag just och tänkte på mitt QSO med Rolf, W9/SM7DZT i New Berlin, Wis, år 1983. Hade ingen aning om att han flyttat västerut. Vi hade träffats några gånger innan han flyttade.
Undrade om mitt minne var OK. Kunde det vara 21 MHz år 1981 och var det Rolf, W8/SM7DZT? Tillräckligt nära för att hitta honom i loggen. Undrade vad, som hänt med Rolf sedan dess.

Hade jag undrat hur jag skall göra något på datorn, som jag gjort dagligen under åratal, så är minnet blankt....

Kollade sedan Rolf i gamla svenska callbooks och fann hans namn Ekstrand och kollade sedan namnet på QRZ och bingo! Han är numera K9DZT och är kvar i  New Berlin, Wis!
Lilla värld - utom då vi sitter borta och undrar hur vi skall komma hem... eller sitter hemma och tittar på Köpenhamn, men inte får åka dit, hi!
73!  Sten


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Den mån 4 maj 2020 kl 19:32 skrev VE3NR Göran Almemo <ve3nr@...>:

Hej Sten,

Ja, verkligen usla konds på 20M numera och dåliga signaler överlag.

Intressant läsning om master och antenner. Jag har haft min
beskärda del av detta också, men klarade alla tester som
gjordes av myndighterna. Det tog mig ett par år att reda ut
begreppen, men nu är allt OK. Den klagande parten dog och
huset såldes till mycket trevliga nya grannar! Never give up!

Göran VE3NR


On 5/4/2020 1:08 PM, SM7WT (right) K7BV (left) in Visalia 2010 wrote:
Hej igen! Det var urusla condx i går,. men Bosse, W1OYI peakade stundtals 58. KB4BA och KB4RM 55 som bäst. Peter, du peakade 55 i dag, men mest nere i bruset. Normalt är du 59 här.
Här är de antennhistorier, som jag skickade till N1VR inför Visalia 2010:

SM5CMM

This poor guy has had a fight for 16 years with his neighbor about his tower.
Legislation in Sweden doesn't demand a special permit to install a tower for a ham, but this neighbor of his is an active politician and he managed to get the city to disregard the law and create their own laws. The neighbor complained that there might be interference - being asked if it had ever happened, he admitted it had not. He was also afraid of the radiation! The tower was "ugly" to look at - he couldn't see the antenna, it was higher up, at 60 feet. They forced SM5CMM to remove his tower. SM5CMM then mounted his beam on a 30 feet tube, just above the roof. His "winning" neighbor can now look at the antenna from his kitchen window and be more exposed to the supposedly "dangerous" radiation. Love thy neighbor! Hi!
The photos show SM5CMM´s antenna. The tower which he was compelled to remove is to the left and now instead his neighbor will get a close view of the antenna. You win the battle, but you lose the war, isn't that what they say?

 bild.png


bild.png

 SM7WT

My own situation was more or less the same. In 1985, I made the drawings for my tower and went to the local authorities to ask if they were good enough for a building permit. I was told that no building permit was needed so I went home and installed my tower. Our neighbor filed a complaint and one day, I got a letter from the local authorities that I had installed "an illegal radio tower." After spending several hours writing an explanation and waiting nervously for months, I finally got a confirmation from the politicians (!) that no building permit was needed. This is the only time in my life, I can be grateful for something, done by politicians! My neighbor continued to complain about TVI, well aware that the problem was caused by his broad-band amplifier, (produced in Germany, not allowed to be sold in Germany and installed by a German born "technician.") My neighbor didn't allow me to fix the problem and preferred to call me to complain every time I was active. Eventually he contacted the FCC and after their measurements, they told him that I did not transmit any false signals and since he didn't want me to help him, he had to go somewhere else for help. In the past the FCC would solve interference problems, but today they just check the transmitted signal.

 

G0IAS
....So a move to the village of Elkesley,( IO93MG ) where I applied for a Mast for the 2 Cushcraft beams.... problems...
Quote from the Local Council Planning.... "Refused.... a mast being considered as a Dominant feature in a Residential Area, and Detrimental to the Visual Amenities of my neighbours".
In plain English," No, you can't have a mast because they are unsightly"
A little digging into the Planning Act in a Book in the local Library... some hours spent with the help of a Head Planning Officer from the next County, and a letter was sent to the Solicitor for my Local Council, who said I did not even need to APPLY for permission to put a mast up.... If it was mounted on a TRAILER.....!
Easy now... 80 FEET ( about 25 meters) mast on a trailer, 4 X times 19 element Cushcraft stacked and bayed.... I'm in business again ... and NOBODY can stop me, lots of efforts to get the antennas taken down, but as the LEGAL situation was... there was nothing that anyone could do to remove the mast and antennas, they were mounted on a Commercial trailer that I had modified with extra outriggers to spread the wind loading of the Beams. G6YEP is back with a VENGEANCE...
Lots of hams in the UK were given the same advice, if you have problems with the Planning for a FIXED mast, ask the Council Solicitor for a LEGAL determination for a trailer mounted mast... no planning required because it can be moved, so it is NOT permanently sited, this may apply for other Countries as well .... certainly worth looking into if you have Planning objections to a fixed mast.

F8IJV
... I got all the troubles in the world to put up a small 12 meters high tower supporting a 10 M 5 elements yagi in my parents's home. From 1995 to the end of 1999, I've been sued before the justice by the mayor of my village and some neighbors beacuse of my hobby. It has been the worst ham radio period for me and my parents. But, since I did everything respecting the law, I won all cases. As I was a law student, all this has been a « good » practice for me, and made me specialized in administrative and urbanism French law.

 



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73! Stan  

SM7WT since 1956  active as SF7WT since 2006

Author of "Thanks to Amateur Radio" and "Encyclopedia of Ham Radio"