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A useful Dont


Richard <richard@...>
 

Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
be brushed in to awkward areas.
DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots
the propellent in some aerosol paints dissolves the plastic..
something else you cant do anymore
--
Best wishes /73
Richard Bown

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Neil Smith G4DBN
 

There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing it, then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something expensive????

I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a tinfoil container though.

Neil G4DBN

On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
be brushed in to awkward areas.
DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots
the propellent in some aerosol paints dissolves the plastic..
something else you cant do anymore


Peter G3SMT
 

I usually use the top of the spray can and add a little thinners as well. Non have dissolved - yet.

Peter G3SMT

On 26/06/2019 17:17, Neil Smith G4DBN wrote:
There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing it, then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something expensive????

I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a tinfoil container though.

Neil G4DBN

On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
be brushed in to awkward areas.
DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots
the propellent in some aerosol paints dissolves the plastic..
something else you cant do anymore
--
Peter G3SMT


Richard <richard@...>
 

No nothing exciting that would please the JO brigade

I've used an ABS box to put my 23 cms SSPA in, made it easy to
cut out the air intake /exit.

And as I had a can on spray on nickel loaded paint, I was going to
paint the inside of the ABS box with the nickel loaded paint .
The paint was old and there was no gas pressure to use the aerosol, so
I ripped the top off the aerosol and poured the contents in to a
yoghurt pot and proceeded to paint the inside of the box, Carefully
holding the pot over what I was painting, but luckily not above the
SSPA.

The inside of the box now has a very thick layer of paint, so does the
lid .

I normally use the aerosol lid as you do Peter , but that got tidied up
years ago; tidying up is a term used for the xyl throwing useful things
in the bin.
Just thought I'd warn others that the plastics now used are not as
tough as they used to be.
Richard

On Wed, 2019-06-26 at 17:17 +0100, Neil Smith G4DBN wrote:
There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing
it,
then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something
expensive????

I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a
tinfoil
container though.

Neil G4DBN

On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it
can
be brushed in to awkward areas.
DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots
the propellent in some aerosol paints dissolves the plastic..
something else you cant do anymore

--
Best wishes /73
Richard Bown

Email : richard@...

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Conrad, PA5Y
 

I use the lid of a jam jar pre weird paper/plastic lining period. Why does everything involving paint ultimately end up that unattractive brown colour ūüėä

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Smith G4DBN via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 June 2019 18:18
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] A useful Dont

There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing it, then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something expensive????

I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a tinfoil container though.

Neil G4DBN

On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
be brushed in to awkward areas.
DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots the propellent in some aerosol
paints dissolves the plastic..
something else you cant do anymore


Robert G8RPI
 

If using the aerosol cap check for holes first. Many have a small hole/ This appears to be to stop the cap pressurising if the valve  leaks. I guess to stop injury from flying caps.

Robert G8RPI.


Chris Gill
 

Always use the paint spray lid.


On Wed, 26 Jun 2019, 17:19 Neil Smith G4DBN, <neil@...> wrote:
There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing it,
then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something expensive????

I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a tinfoil
container though.

Neil G4DBN

On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
> Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
> be brushed in to awkward areas.
> DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots
> the propellent in some aerosol paints dissolves the plastic..
> something else you cant do anymore




Ian White
 

Nickel loaded paint can also be a big DON'T, because it tends to shed tiny conductive flakes. Painting the enclosure for a CW keyer with built-in paddles was a great way to find this out.

73 from Ian GM3SEK

On 26/06/2019 17:46, Richard wrote:

No nothing exciting that would please the JO brigade

I've used an ABS box to put my 23 cms SSPA in, made it easy to 
cut out the air intake /exit.

And as I had a can on spray on nickel loaded paint, I was going to
paint the inside of the ABS box with the nickel loaded paint .
The paint was old 


Andy G4JNT
 

The clear plastic tubs houmous and various other delicatessen foods come in seem to be OK.   
Just tested with two different makes of spray paint.



On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 18:45, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:
I use the lid of a jam jar pre weird paper/plastic lining period. Why does everything involving paint ultimately end up that unattractive brown colour ūüėä

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Smith G4DBN via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 June 2019 18:18
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] A useful Dont

There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing it, then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something expensive????

I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a tinfoil container though.

Neil G4DBN

On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
> Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
> be brushed in to awkward areas.
> DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots the propellent in some aerosol
> paints dissolves the plastic..
> something else you cant do anymore







Richard <richard@...>
 




So it now declared its all a lie !




On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 19:38 +0100, Andy G4JNT wrote:
The clear plastic tubs houmous and various other delicatessen foods come in seem to be OK.   
Just tested with two different makes of spray paint.



On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 18:45, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:
I use the lid of a jam jar pre weird paper/plastic lining period. Why does everything involving paint ultimately end up that unattractive brown colour ūüėä

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Smith G4DBN via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 June 2019 18:18
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] A useful Dont

There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing it, then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something expensive????

I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a tinfoil container though.

Neil G4DBN

On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
> Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
> be brushed in to awkward areas.
> DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots the propellent in some aerosol
> paints dissolves the plastic..
> something else you cant do anymore






-- 
 Best wishes /73 
 Richard Bown
 
 Email : richard@...

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Andy G4JNT
 

Different types of plastic have different reactions - 



On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 19:45, Richard <richard@...> wrote:



So it now declared its all a lie !




On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 19:38 +0100, Andy G4JNT wrote:
The clear plastic tubs houmous and various other delicatessen foods come in seem to be OK.   
Just tested with two different makes of spray paint.



On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 18:45, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:
I use the lid of a jam jar pre weird paper/plastic lining period. Why does everything involving paint ultimately end up that unattractive brown colour ūüėä

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Smith G4DBN via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 June 2019 18:18
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] A useful Dont

There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing it, then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something expensive????

I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a tinfoil container though.

Neil G4DBN

On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
> Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
> be brushed in to awkward areas.
> DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots the propellent in some aerosol
> paints dissolves the plastic..
> something else you cant do anymore






-- 
 Best wishes /73 
 Richard Bown
 
 Email : richard@...

 HTTP  :  http://www.g8jvm.com
 
 ######################################################################

 Ham Call: G8JVM . QRV: 50-432 MHz + Microwave 
 Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W
 QRV 6mtrs 200W, 4mtrs 150W, 2mtrs 300W, 70cms 200W, 
Microwave 1296MHz 140W, 2320MHz 100W & 10368MHz 5W
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Richard <richard@...>
 



No why not say what you mean , you deliberately went out of your way to rubbish what I posted

I had enough of the pettiness of this list.

A list where it acceptable to show amusement when others are injured for instance

On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 19:47 +0100, Andy G4JNT wrote:
Different types of plastic have different reactions - 



On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 19:45, Richard <richard@...> wrote:



So it now declared its all a lie !




On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 19:38 +0100, Andy G4JNT wrote:
The clear plastic tubs houmous and various other delicatessen foods come in seem to be OK.   
Just tested with two different makes of spray paint.



On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 18:45, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:
I use the lid of a jam jar pre weird paper/plastic lining period. Why does everything involving paint ultimately end up that unattractive brown colour ūüėä

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Smith G4DBN via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 June 2019 18:18
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] A useful Dont

There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing it, then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something expensive????

I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a tinfoil container though.

Neil G4DBN

On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
> Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
> be brushed in to awkward areas.
> DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots the propellent in some aerosol
> paints dissolves the plastic..
> something else you cant do anymore






-- 
 Best wishes /73 
 Richard Bown
 
 Email : richard@...

 HTTP  :  http://www.g8jvm.com
 
 ######################################################################

 Ham Call: G8JVM . QRV: 50-432 MHz + Microwave 
 Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W
 QRV 6mtrs 200W, 4mtrs 150W, 2mtrs 300W, 70cms 200W, 
Microwave 1296MHz 140W, 2320MHz 100W & 10368MHz 5W
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 ######################################################################

-- 
 Best wishes /73 
 Richard Bown
 
 Email : richard@...

 HTTP  :  http://www.g8jvm.com
 
 ######################################################################

 Ham Call: G8JVM . QRV: 50-432 MHz + Microwave 
 Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W
 QRV 6mtrs 200W, 4mtrs 150W, 2mtrs 300W, 70cms 200W, 
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Steve G4HTZ
 

Don't eat yellow snow 

On 27 Jun 2019, at 20:07, Richard <richard@...> wrote:



No why not say what you mean , you deliberately went out of your way to rubbish what I posted

I had enough of the pettiness of this list.

A list where it acceptable to show amusement when others are injured for instance

On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 19:47 +0100, Andy G4JNT wrote:
Different types of plastic have different reactions - 



On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 19:45, Richard <richard@...> wrote:



So it now declared its all a lie !




On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 19:38 +0100, Andy G4JNT wrote:
The clear plastic tubs houmous and various other delicatessen foods come in seem to be OK.   
Just tested with two different makes of spray paint.



On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 18:45, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:
I use the lid of a jam jar pre weird paper/plastic lining period. Why does everything involving paint ultimately end up that unattractive brown colour ūüėä

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Smith G4DBN via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 June 2019 18:18
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] A useful Dont

There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing it, then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something expensive????

I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a tinfoil container though.

Neil G4DBN

On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
> Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
> be brushed in to awkward areas.
> DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots the propellent in some aerosol
> paints dissolves the plastic..
> something else you cant do anymore






-- 
 Best wishes /73 
 Richard Bown
 
 Email : richard@...

 HTTP  :  http://www.g8jvm.com
 
 ######################################################################

 Ham Call: G8JVM . QRV: 50-432 MHz + Microwave 
 Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W
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Microwave 1296MHz 140W, 2320MHz 100W & 10368MHz 5W
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 ######################################################################

-- 
 Best wishes /73 
 Richard Bown
 
 Email : richard@...

 HTTP  :  http://www.g8jvm.com
 
 ######################################################################

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--
Steve G4HTZ 
JO01JN


Alan
 

Summer Heat?

 

YOU ARE BOTH RIGHT  - paint comes with different solvents from plant based to petrochemical. There are very many different plastics too.  But Aluminium foil will always be safe ( apart from some etching primers).  There is a strong trend towards water based paints for no VOC paints (Volatile Organic Compounds ) -they should be safe for most plastics apart from Radcom wrappers.

 

73

Alan

G8LCO

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Bill, G4CUE
 

Dear All,

I once put some Makro dishwasher liquid into a contained that had held
Waitrose dishwasher liquid. After a day or so the base had dissolved
away - very messy.

Best wishes,

Bill.

Thursday, June 27, 2019, 7:38:23 PM, you wrote:

The clear plastic tubs houmous and various other delicatessen foods come in seem to be OK.
Just tested with two different makes of spray paint.
Andy
www.g4jnt.com













On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 18:45, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:

Conrad
-----Original Message-----
From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Smith G4DBN via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 June 2019 18:18
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] A useful Dont
There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing
it, then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something expensive????
I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a tinfoil container though.
Neil G4DBN
On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
be brushed in to awkward areas.
DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots the propellent in some aerosol
paints dissolves the plastic..
something else you cant do anymore







Alan G0XBV
 

I think it might be a case of white/coloured pots being made from PP and the clear tubs, PET.  Margerine tubs f'rinstance go off badly all by themselves with age, never mind with paint in them.

Al G0XBV

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <richard@...>
To: UKMicrowaves <UKMicrowaves@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 20:08
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] A useful Dont



No why not say what you mean , you deliberately went out of your way to rubbish what I posted

I had enough of the pettiness of this list.

A list where it acceptable to show amusement when others are injured for instance

On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 19:47 +0100, Andy G4JNT wrote:
Different types of plastic have different reactions - 



On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 19:45, Richard <richard@...> wrote:



So it now declared its all a lie !




On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 19:38 +0100, Andy G4JNT wrote:
The clear plastic tubs houmous and various other delicatessen foods come in seem to be OK.   
Just tested with two different makes of spray paint.



On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 18:45, Conrad, PA5Y <g0ruz@...> wrote:
I use the lid of a jam jar pre weird paper/plastic lining period. Why does everything involving paint ultimately end up that unattractive brown colour ūüėä

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Smith G4DBN via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 June 2019 18:18
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] A useful Dont

There MUST be a good back-story to this Richard? Did you try doing it, then the paint dissolved the pot and dripped on something expensive????

I'd never thought of this techique though, good tip. I'll use a tinfoil container though.

Neil G4DBN

On 26/06/2019 15:58, Richard wrote:
> Many of us will use a pot to put paint from an aerosol into so it can
> be brushed in to awkward areas.
> DONT use the thin plastic yoghurt pots the propellent in some aerosol
> paints dissolves the plastic..
> something else you cant do anymore






-- 
 Best wishes /73 
 Richard Bown
 
 Email : richard@...

 HTTP  :  http://www.g8jvm.com
 
 ######################################################################

 Ham Call: G8JVM . QRV: 50-432 MHz + Microwave 
 Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W
 QRV 6mtrs 200W, 4mtrs 150W, 2mtrs 300W, 70cms 200W, 
Microwave 1296MHz 140W, 2320MHz 100W & 10368MHz 5W
 OS: Linux Mint 19.1 x86_64 Tessa, on a Dell Inspiron N5030 laptop
 ######################################################################

-- 
 Best wishes /73 
 Richard Bown
 
 Email : richard@...

 HTTP  :  http://www.g8jvm.com
 
 ######################################################################

 Ham Call: G8JVM . QRV: 50-432 MHz + Microwave 
 Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W
 QRV 6mtrs 200W, 4mtrs 150W, 2mtrs 300W, 70cms 200W, 
Microwave 1296MHz 140W, 2320MHz 100W & 10368MHz 5W
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 ######################################################################


John G3UUT
 

Another useful Don't;

Don't seal up the hole or the gap usually provided at the bottom of a vertical antenna, the type with a plastic or fibreglass shroud and connector on the bottom with either a hole near the connector or a gap between the connector assembly and the fibreglass.

I very carefully sealed all round the connector and covered the hole and gap of my nice shiny new 2m/70cm/23cm vertical.  A year later I wondered why it wasn't working and the SWR was very high.  Taking the antenna down, you could see through the translucent plastic that there was about 3 inches of water at the bottom.  I thought that the shroud must have a hole where rain was getting in but it was water tight.  This taught me a useful lesson in that watertight is not necessarily water vapour tight and that heating and cooling can draw in damp air in the evening through pores in the structure which then condenses.  It doesn't go out as easily as it goes in so the condensation builds up over time until it causes a problem.

73 John G3UUT


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Stephen Tompsett
 

Waterproof means that the water that does get in, can't get out!.

Stephen Tompsett

On Fri, 28 Jun 2019, 15:42 John G3UUT, <g3uut@...> wrote:
Another useful Don't;

Don't seal up the hole or the gap usually provided at the bottom of a vertical antenna, the type with a plastic or fibreglass shroud and connector on the bottom with either a hole near the connector or a gap between the connector assembly and the fibreglass.

I very carefully sealed all round the connector and covered the hole and gap of my nice shiny new 2m/70cm/23cm vertical.  A year later I wondered why it wasn't working and the SWR was very high.  Taking the antenna down, you could see through the translucent plastic that there was about 3 inches of water at the bottom.  I thought that the shroud must have a hole where rain was getting in but it was water tight.  This taught me a useful lesson in that watertight is not necessarily water vapour tight and that heating and cooling can draw in damp air in the evening through pores in the structure which then condenses.  It doesn't go out as easily as it goes in so the condensation builds up over time until it causes a problem.

73 John G3UUT


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