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beaconspot

Dave - G4RQI
 

Hello...

 

I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening using https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?

 

73 David

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

Some cluster software has a bug and truncates the precision, so when the originating cluster node sees the spot being looped back, instead of ignoring it, it thinks it is a new spot and displays it.  Only happens on certain beacons of course, depends on the frequency you spot.  If it is within X Hz of the boundary of a 10kHz increment, it is suppressed.  Not sure whose software is responsible, but a lot of authors didn’t realise anything existed above VHF.  Some cluster code chopped off the “10” from 10368.120 and the spot appeared as 368.120 with the digits “10” appended to the callsign.  That was fixed a while back, but the broken software which truncates the precision is still very prevalent.

I did try dropping Dirk a line to see if he had any ideas, but we really need to identify which software is doing it.

Neil G4DBN

On 12 Jun 2019, at 20:15, Dave - G4RQI <io93ir@...> wrote:

Hello...
 
I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening using https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?
 
73 David
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 

Neil Smith G4DBN
 


I just checked on one cluster on the web and it is even worse, truncating to the nearest MEGAHERTZ when you search. I’ll drop the author a line as I know who writes this one!
Neil G4DBN

2019-06-12 19:00:00 G4RQI 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(RS)IO93IR 55
2019-06-12 19:00:00 G4RQI 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(RS)IO93IR 55
2019-06-10 22:23:00 G4DBN 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ<RS>IO93NR 55s SCP JO02B
2019-06-10 22:23:00 G4DBN 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ<RS>IO93NR 55s SCP JO02B
2019-06-10 22:15:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs>55S
2019-06-10 22:15:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs>55S
2019-06-10 11:58:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs> 52S
2019-06-10 11:58:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs> 52S
2019-06-10 11:37:00 G0API 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(TR)IO80XS 419


On 12 Jun 2019, at 21:20, Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@...> wrote:

Some cluster software has a bug and truncates the precision, so when the originating cluster node sees the spot being looped back, instead of ignoring it, it thinks it is a new spot and displays it.  Only happens on certain beacons of course, depends on the frequency you spot.  If it is within X Hz of the boundary of a 10kHz increment, it is suppressed.  Not sure whose software is responsible, but a lot of authors didn’t realise anything existed above VHF.  Some cluster code chopped off the “10” from 10368.120 and the spot appeared as 368.120 with the digits “10” appended to the callsign.  That was fixed a while back, but the broken software which truncates the precision is still very prevalent.

I did try dropping Dirk a line to see if he had any ideas, but we really need to identify which software is doing it.

Neil G4DBN

On 12 Jun 2019, at 20:15, Dave - G4RQI <io93ir@...> wrote:

Hello...
 
I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening using https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?
 
73 David
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 


Nicholas Shaxted
 

Hi Neil and Dave

I have just reviewed the cluster messaging for an entry from DL7VTX earlier this evening.

He also added a spot which reported the same issue.

The first entry is the correct entry (877) and GB3UJS and ON4KST seem to be involved, along with an IP

The second entry is incorrect (880) and seems to have GB3RDX and ON4KST involved.

 

Therefore, very tentatively, I would start to look a little closer at GB3RDX and its route.

 

CC11^10368877.0^OE1XGA/B^12-Jun-2019^2008^51s jn88eu - jo62tm^DL7VTX^24^GB7UJS^ON4KST-2^28^15^28^14^^^OE^DL^JN88^JO62^^2^48.5/-17^178.33.224.102^ (GB7DXS)

 

CC11^10368880.0^OE1XGA/B^12-Jun-2019^2008^51s jn88eu - jo62tm^DL7VTX^98^GB7RDX^ON4KST-2^28^15^28^14^^^OE^DL^JN88^JO62^^2^48.5/-17^^ (GB7DXS)

 

 

73

Nick – g4ogi

 

 

 

 

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> On Behalf Of Neil Smith G4DBN via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 9:29 PM
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

 

I just checked on one cluster on the web and it is even worse, truncating to the nearest MEGAHERTZ when you search. I’ll drop the author a line as I know who writes this one!

Neil G4DBN


2019-06-12 19:00:00       G4RQI   10369000             GB3LEX/B            IO92IQ(RS)IO93IR 55
2019-06-12 19:00:00       G4RQI   10369000             GB3LEX/B            IO92IQ(RS)IO93IR 55
2019-06-10 22:23:00       G4DBN 10369000             GB3LEX/B            IO92IQ<RS>IO93NR 55s SCP JO02B
2019-06-10 22:23:00       G4DBN 10369000             GB3LEX/B            IO92IQ<RS>IO93NR 55s SCP JO02B
2019-06-10 22:15:00       G4BAO 10369000             GB3LEX <rs>55S
2019-06-10 22:15:00       G4BAO 10369000             GB3LEX <rs>55S
2019-06-10 11:58:00       G4BAO 10369000             GB3LEX <rs> 52S
2019-06-10 11:58:00       G4BAO 10369000             GB3LEX <rs> 52S
2019-06-10 11:37:00       G0API   10369000             GB3LEX/B            IO92IQ(TR)IO80XS 419

 



On 12 Jun 2019, at 21:20, Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@...> wrote:

 

Some cluster software has a bug and truncates the precision, so when the originating cluster node sees the spot being looped back, instead of ignoring it, it thinks it is a new spot and displays it.  Only happens on certain beacons of course, depends on the frequency you spot.  If it is within X Hz of the boundary of a 10kHz increment, it is suppressed.  Not sure whose software is responsible, but a lot of authors didn’t realise anything existed above VHF.  Some cluster code chopped off the “10” from 10368.120 and the spot appeared as 368.120 with the digits “10” appended to the callsign.  That was fixed a while back, but the broken software which truncates the precision is still very prevalent.

 

I did try dropping Dirk a line to see if he had any ideas, but we really need to identify which software is doing it.

 

Neil G4DBN



On 12 Jun 2019, at 20:15, Dave - G4RQI <io93ir@...> wrote:

 

Hello...

 

I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening using https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?

 

73 David

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

Dave - G4RQI
 

Hello Neil,

 

Thanks for the reply it will be interesting to see if can be resolved.

 

LEX and CAM are still audible on RS as I type this but not heard anything else tonight and certainly not any human activity.

 

73 David

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 9:28:51 PM
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot
 

I just checked on one cluster on the web and it is even worse, truncating to the nearest MEGAHERTZ when you search. I’ll drop the author a line as I know who writes this one!
Neil G4DBN

2019-06-12 19:00:00 G4RQI 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(RS)IO93IR 55
2019-06-12 19:00:00 G4RQI 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(RS)IO93IR 55
2019-06-10 22:23:00 G4DBN 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ<RS>IO93NR 55s SCP JO02B
2019-06-10 22:23:00 G4DBN 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ<RS>IO93NR 55s SCP JO02B
2019-06-10 22:15:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs>55S
2019-06-10 22:15:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs>55S
2019-06-10 11:58:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs> 52S
2019-06-10 11:58:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs> 52S
2019-06-10 11:37:00 G0API 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(TR)IO80XS 419


On 12 Jun 2019, at 21:20, Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@...> wrote:

Some cluster software has a bug and truncates the precision, so when the originating cluster node sees the spot being looped back, instead of ignoring it, it thinks it is a new spot and displays it.  Only happens on certain beacons of course, depends on the frequency you spot.  If it is within X Hz of the boundary of a 10kHz increment, it is suppressed.  Not sure whose software is responsible, but a lot of authors didn’t realise anything existed above VHF.  Some cluster code chopped off the “10” from 10368.120 and the spot appeared as 368.120 with the digits “10” appended to the callsign.  That was fixed a while back, but the broken software which truncates the precision is still very prevalent.

I did try dropping Dirk a line to see if he had any ideas, but we really need to identify which software is doing it.

Neil G4DBN

On 12 Jun 2019, at 20:15, Dave - G4RQI <io93ir@...> wrote:

Hello...
 
I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening using https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?
 
73 David
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 


Richard <richard@...>
 

The last time this was flagged, tracing the spot back to where is get corrupted ended up with some Finnish
cluster s/w.
When the clusters in Europe were RF linked it was very easy to see where things went wrong.
But with internet linking its much harder, especially when duplicate paths exist between servers on different platforms.
Duplicate spots are removed, unless they have been changed,
Remember running a cluster server is a thankless task
Richard




On Wed, 2019-06-12 at 20:36 +0000, Dave - G4RQI wrote:

Hello Neil,

 

Thanks for the reply it will be interesting to see if can be resolved.

 

LEX and CAM are still audible on RS as I type this but not heard anything else tonight and certainly not any human activity.

 

73 David

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 9:28:51 PM
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot
 

I just checked on one cluster on the web and it is even worse, truncating to the nearest MEGAHERTZ when you search. I’ll drop the author a line as I know who writes this one!
Neil G4DBN

2019-06-12 19:00:00 G4RQI 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(RS)IO93IR 55
2019-06-12 19:00:00 G4RQI 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(RS)IO93IR 55
2019-06-10 22:23:00 G4DBN 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ<RS>IO93NR 55s SCP JO02B
2019-06-10 22:23:00 G4DBN 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ<RS>IO93NR 55s SCP JO02B
2019-06-10 22:15:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs>55S
2019-06-10 22:15:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs>55S
2019-06-10 11:58:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs> 52S
2019-06-10 11:58:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs> 52S
2019-06-10 11:37:00 G0API 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(TR)IO80XS 419


On 12 Jun 2019, at 21:20, Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@...> wrote:

Some cluster software has a bug and truncates the precision, so when the originating cluster node sees the spot being looped back, instead of ignoring it, it thinks it is a new spot and displays it.  Only happens on certain beacons of course, depends on the frequency you spot.  If it is within X Hz of the boundary of a 10kHz increment, it is suppressed.  Not sure whose software is responsible, but a lot of authors didn’t realise anything existed above VHF.  Some cluster code chopped off the “10” from 10368.120 and the spot appeared as 368.120 with the digits “10” appended to the callsign.  That was fixed a while back, but the broken software which truncates the precision is still very prevalent.

I did try dropping Dirk a line to see if he had any ideas, but we really need to identify which software is doing it.

Neil G4DBN

On 12 Jun 2019, at 20:15, Dave - G4RQI <io93ir@...> wrote:

Hello...
 
I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening using https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?
 
73 David
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 


-- 
 Best wishes /73 
 Richard Bown
 
 Email : richard@...

 HTTP  :  http://www.g8jvm.com
 
 ######################################################################

 Ham Call: G8JVM . QRV: 50-432 MHz + Microwave 
 Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W
 QRV 6mtrs 200W, 4mtrs 150W, 2mtrs 300W, 70cms 200W, 
Microwave 1296MHz 140W, 2320MHz 100W & 10368MHz 5W
 OS: Linux Mint 19.1 x86_64 Tessa, on a Dell Inspiron N5030 laptop
 ######################################################################

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

I ran the GB7YDX cluster for many long years back in AX25 days. Still have the scars…
One option if the broken code can’t be fixed would be to filter out coincident dupes within 10kHz on the affected bands only. Way better just to get the broken software fixed though, obviously.
Sadly I am 200km away from my radios for a while.
Neil G4DBN

On 12 Jun 2019, at 21:58, Richard <richard@...> wrote:

The last time this was flagged, tracing the spot back to where is get corrupted ended up with some Finnish
cluster s/w.
When the clusters in Europe were RF linked it was very easy to see where things went wrong.
But with internet linking its much harder, especially when duplicate paths exist between servers on different platforms.
Duplicate spots are removed, unless they have been changed,
Remember running a cluster server is a thankless task
Richard




On Wed, 2019-06-12 at 20:36 +0000, Dave - G4RQI wrote:
Hello Neil,
 
Thanks for the reply it will be interesting to see if can be resolved.
 
LEX and CAM are still audible on RS as I type this but not heard anything else tonight and certainly not any human activity.
 
73 David
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 9:28:51 PM
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot
 

I just checked on one cluster on the web and it is even worse, truncating to the nearest MEGAHERTZ when you search. I’ll drop the author a line as I know who writes this one!
Neil G4DBN

2019-06-12 19:00:00 G4RQI 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(RS)IO93IR 55
2019-06-12 19:00:00 G4RQI 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(RS)IO93IR 55
2019-06-10 22:23:00 G4DBN 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ<RS>IO93NR 55s SCP JO02B
2019-06-10 22:23:00 G4DBN 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ<RS>IO93NR 55s SCP JO02B
2019-06-10 22:15:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs>55S
2019-06-10 22:15:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs>55S
2019-06-10 11:58:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs> 52S
2019-06-10 11:58:00 G4BAO 10369000 GB3LEX <rs> 52S
2019-06-10 11:37:00 G0API 10369000 GB3LEX/B IO92IQ(TR)IO80XS 419


On 12 Jun 2019, at 21:20, Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@...> wrote:

Some cluster software has a bug and truncates the precision, so when the originating cluster node sees the spot being looped back, instead of ignoring it, it thinks it is a new spot and displays it.  Only happens on certain beacons of course, depends on the frequency you spot.  If it is within X Hz of the boundary of a 10kHz increment, it is suppressed.  Not sure whose software is responsible, but a lot of authors didn’t realise anything existed above VHF.  Some cluster code chopped off the “10” from 10368.120 and the spot appeared as 368.120 with the digits “10” appended to the callsign.  That was fixed a while back, but the broken software which truncates the precision is still very prevalent.

I did try dropping Dirk a line to see if he had any ideas, but we really need to identify which software is doing it.

Neil G4DBN

On 12 Jun 2019, at 20:15, Dave - G4RQI <io93ir@...> wrote:

Hello...
 
I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening using https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?
 
73 David
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 


-- 
 Best wishes /73 
 Richard Bown
 
 Email : richard@...

 HTTP  :  http://www.g8jvm.com
 
 ######################################################################

 Ham Call: G8JVM . QRV: 50-432 MHz + Microwave 
 Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W
 QRV 6mtrs 200W, 4mtrs 150W, 2mtrs 300W, 70cms 200W, 
Microwave 1296MHz 140W, 2320MHz 100W & 10368MHz 5W
 OS: Linux Mint 19.1 x86_64 Tessa, on a Dell Inspiron N5030 laptop
 ######################################################################


Ralph
 

Good evening David,

 

It could be the access you are using I.e. the way they have set up the routing for various beacons causing a double entries- it happens a lot with me when I spot 2.3GHz beacons

At my age, I have forgotten the correct term used for these points of access. !

Their routing sometimes is not correct.  Try changing the access to the DX Cluster

Should help, I hope hi

 

 

 

Quel age !!

 

73

Ralph

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 12 June 2019 20:15
To: ukmicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello...

 

I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening using https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?

 

73 David

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com

Dave - G4RQI
 

Hello Ralph,

I was using the https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php website to spot the beacons.

73 David


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Ralph via Groups.Io <Ralph.Bird@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 11:00 pm
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot
 

Good evening David,

 

It could be the access you are using I.e. the way they have set up the routing for various beacons causing a double entries- it happens a lot with me when I spot 2.3GHz beacons

At my age, I have forgotten the correct term used for these points of access. !

Their routing sometimes is not correct.  Try changing the access to the DX Cluster

Should help, I hope hi

 

 

 

Quel age !!

 

73

Ralph

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 12 June 2019 20:15
To: ukmicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello...

 

I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening usinghttps://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?

 

73 David

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com

Ralph
 

Good morning David,

 

I am more awake this morning so will try to be clearer.

 

The DX clusters are :- GB7DJK,ON4KST-2, 5SOCLX. (There used to be more)

The way these clusters are maintained (with the latest beacon info) the

Better they perform.

You could try changing these by the command : /setclx then space GB7DJK,

For example. See if that improves the situation.

Hope this may solve your problem.  Or alternatively use the Beaconspot UK

Site and spot the beacons there .

 

73

Ralph G4ALY

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 13 June 2019 07:50
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello Ralph,

 

I was using the https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php website to spot the beacons.

 

73 David

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Ralph via Groups.Io <Ralph.Bird@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 11:00 pm
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Good evening David,

 

It could be the access you are using I.e. the way they have set up the routing for various beacons causing a double entries- it happens a lot with me when I spot 2.3GHz beacons

At my age, I have forgotten the correct term used for these points of access. !

Their routing sometimes is not correct.  Try changing the access to the DX Cluster

Should help, I hope hi

 

 

 

Quel age !!

 

73

Ralph

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 12 June 2019 20:15
To: ukmicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello...

 

I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening usinghttps://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?

 

73 David

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

 

G4LDR
 

This issue has been present for a number of years. I agree with Ralph, it does (sometimes) appear to be related to which access point you are using and in which country that access point is (i.e. dependent on your settings in KST).

73 Neil G4LDR

Ralph
 

I forgot to mention that fact Neil, hi

73

Ralph

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: G4LDR via Groups.Io
Sent: 13 June 2019 11:56
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

This issue has been present for a number of years. I agree with Ralph, it does (sometimes) appear to be related to which access point you are using and in which country that access point is (i.e. dependent on your settings in KST).

73 Neil G4LDR

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com

Dave - G4RQI
 

Hello Ralph,

I was using beacon spot to spot the beacon !

73 David


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Ralph via Groups.Io <Ralph.Bird@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 11:42 am
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot
 

Good morning David,

 

I am more awake this morning so will try to be clearer.

 

The DX clusters are :- GB7DJK,ON4KST-2, 5SOCLX. (There used to be more)

The way these clusters are maintained (with the latest beacon info) the

Better they perform.

You could try changing these by the command : /setclx then space GB7DJK,

For example. See if that improves the situation.

Hope this may solve your problem.  Or alternatively use the Beaconspot UK

Site and spot the beacons there .

 

73

Ralph G4ALY

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 13 June 2019 07:50
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello Ralph,

 

I was using the https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php website to spot the beacons.

 

73 David

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Ralph via Groups.Io <Ralph.Bird@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 11:00 pm
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Good evening David,

 

It could be the access you are using I.e. the way they have set up the routing for various beacons causing a double entries- it happens a lot with me when I spot 2.3GHz beacons

At my age, I have forgotten the correct term used for these points of access. !

Their routing sometimes is not correct.  Try changing the access to the DX Cluster

Should help, I hope hi

 

 

 

Quel age !!

 

73

Ralph

 

Sent fromMail for Windows 10

 

From:Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 12 June 2019 20:15
To: ukmicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello...

 

I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening usinghttps://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?

 

73 David

Sent fromMail for Windows 10

 

 

 

Virus-free.www.avg.com

 

DF6NA Rainer
 

Hi,

the problem is not where you enter your spot or what beacon (or station) you spot.
The problem is when such a spot passes a faulty cluster. There the frequency will
be changed and the "false" spot is send out. All the other cluster stations will accept
that spot as a new one because the frequency is different.

Here is what I just captured from F5LEN:

G4RQI     10368760.0 GB3CAM/B       IO92WI(RS)IO93IR 51             1855z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
G4RQI     10368755.0 GB3CAM/B       IO92WI(RS)IO93IR 51             1855z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
OK1TEH    10368930.0 SR3XHY/B       59S qtf 48 scp jo70             1849z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
OK1TEH    10368932.0 SR3XHY/B       59S qtf 48 scp jo70             1849z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
9A2SB     10368860.0 OE8XGQ/B       jn66wq 57s scp jn76mp           1846z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    10368980.0 HG1BSB/B       jn87fi:rs:jo50vi 52s v jo70gc   1759z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    10368975.5 HG1BSB/B       jn87fi:rs:jo50vi 52s v jo70gc   1759z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    10368900.0 SR6XHC/B       jo80jg:rs:jo50vi 57s v jo70gc   1758z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    10368904.0 SR6XHC/B       jo80jg:rs:jo50vi 57s v jo70gc   1758z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    10368880.0 OE1XGA/B       jn88eg:rs:jo50vi 55s v jo70gc   1756z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    10368881.0 OE1XGA/B       jn88eg:rs:jo50vi 55s v jo70gc   1756z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    10368870.0 OK0EK/B        jn89vj:rs:jo50vi 52s v jo70gc   1751z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    10368930.0 SR3XHY/B       jo82lj:rs:jo50vi 55s v jo71be   1716z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    10368934.0 SR3XHY/B       jo82lj:rs:jo50vi 55s v jo71be   1716z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
IK2OFO    10368100.0 IZ2DJP         JN45PB:TR:JN55FO                1650z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
IK2OFO    24048100.0 IZ2DJP         JN45PB:TR:JN55FO                1642z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M

This problem exists for years and the is no solution until today.

vy 73, Rainer

Am 13.06.2019 um 13:10 schrieb Dave - G4RQI:

Hello Ralph,

I was using beacon spot to spot the beacon !

73 David

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Ralph via Groups.Io <Ralph.Bird@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 11:42 am
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot
 

Good morning David,

 

I am more awake this morning so will try to be clearer.

 

The DX clusters are :- GB7DJK,ON4KST-2, 5SOCLX. (There used to be more)

The way these clusters are maintained (with the latest beacon info) the

Better they perform.

You could try changing these by the command : /setclx then space GB7DJK,

For example. See if that improves the situation.

Hope this may solve your problem.  Or alternatively use the Beaconspot UK

Site and spot the beacons there .

 

73

Ralph G4ALY

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 13 June 2019 07:50
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello Ralph,

 

I was using the https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php website to spot the beacons.

 

73 David

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Ralph via Groups.Io <Ralph.Bird@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 11:00 pm
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Good evening David,

 

It could be the access you are using I.e. the way they have set up the routing for various beacons causing a double entries- it happens a lot with me when I spot 2.3GHz beacons

At my age, I have forgotten the correct term used for these points of access. !

Their routing sometimes is not correct.  Try changing the access to the DX Cluster

Should help, I hope hi

 

 

 

Quel age !!

 

73

Ralph

 

Sent fromMail for Windows 10

 

From:Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 12 June 2019 20:15
To: ukmicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello...

 

I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening usinghttps://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?

 

73 David

Sent fromMail for Windows 10

 

 


Ralph
 

Then, and I did’nt read the orginal message fully. There is maybe a couple of mismatches on the Dx Cluster somewhere.

Where the frequency may differ from the one you entered, so it puts yours and its own frequency information on as well.

Beaconspot is usually right, though if you enter a frequency different to the allocated bkn freq then somewhere along

The chain there is a difference in what is acceptable so puts both on . I cannot think of any other reason, sorry.

 

73

Ralph

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 13 June 2019 12:13
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello Ralph,

 

I was using beacon spot to spot the beacon !

 

73 David

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Ralph via Groups.Io <Ralph.Bird@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 11:42 am
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Good morning David,

 

I am more awake this morning so will try to be clearer.

 

The DX clusters are :- GB7DJK,ON4KST-2, 5SOCLX. (There used to be more)

The way these clusters are maintained (with the latest beacon info) the

Better they perform.

You could try changing these by the command : /setclx then space GB7DJK,

For example. See if that improves the situation.

Hope this may solve your problem.  Or alternatively use the Beaconspot UK

Site and spot the beacons there .

 

73

Ralph G4ALY

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 13 June 2019 07:50
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello Ralph,

 

I was using the https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php website to spot the beacons.

 

73 David

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Ralph via Groups.Io <Ralph.Bird@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 11:00 pm
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Good evening David,

 

It could be the access you are using I.e. the way they have set up the routing for various beacons causing a double entries- it happens a lot with me when I spot 2.3GHz beacons

At my age, I have forgotten the correct term used for these points of access. !

Their routing sometimes is not correct.  Try changing the access to the DX Cluster

Should help, I hope hi

 

 

 

Quel age !!

 

73

Ralph

 

Sent fromMail for Windows 10

 

From:Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 12 June 2019 20:15
To: ukmicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello...

 

I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening usinghttps://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?

 

73 David

Sent fromMail for Windows 10

 

 

 

Virus-free.www.avg.com

 

 

Ralph
 

Hi Rainer,

You have put into words what I was trying to convey hi , thanks

 

73

Ralph

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: DF6NA Rainer
Sent: 13 June 2019 13:47
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hi,

the problem is not where you enter your spot or what beacon (or station) you spot.
The problem is when such a spot passes a faulty cluster. There the frequency will
be changed and the "false" spot is send out. All the other cluster stations will accept
that spot as a new one because the frequency is different.

Here is what I just captured from F5LEN:

G4RQI     103687
60.0 GB3CAM/B       IO92WI(RS)IO93IR 51             1855z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
G4RQI     103687
55.0 GB3CAM/B       IO92WI(RS)IO93IR 51             1855z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
OK1TEH    103689
30.0 SR3XHY/B       59S qtf 48 scp jo70             1849z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
OK1TEH    103689
32.0 SR3XHY/B       59S qtf 48 scp jo70             1849z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
9A2SB     10368860.0 OE8XGQ/B       jn66wq 57s scp jn76mp           1846z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    103689
80.0 HG1BSB/B       jn87fi:rs:jo50vi 52s v jo70gc   1759z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    103689
75.5 HG1BSB/B       jn87fi:rs:jo50vi 52s v jo70gc   1759z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    103689
00.0 SR6XHC/B       jo80jg:rs:jo50vi 57s v jo70gc   1758z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    103689
04.0 SR6XHC/B       jo80jg:rs:jo50vi 57s v jo70gc   1758z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    103688
80.0 OE1XGA/B       jn88eg:rs:jo50vi 55s v jo70gc   1756z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    103688
81.0 OE1XGA/B       jn88eg:rs:jo50vi 55s v jo70gc   1756z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    10368870.0 OK0EK/B        jn89vj:rs:jo50vi 52s v jo70gc   1751z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    103689
30.0 SR3XHY/B       jo82lj:rs:jo50vi 55s v jo71be   1716z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
DL6NCI    103689
34.0 SR3XHY/B       jo82lj:rs:jo50vi 55s v jo71be   1716z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
IK2OFO    10368100.0 IZ2DJP         JN45PB:TR:JN55FO                1650z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M
IK2OFO    24048100.0 IZ2DJP         JN45PB:TR:JN55FO                1642z  2019-Jun-12 D I Q G M

This problem exists for years and the is no solution until today.

vy 73, Rainer

Am 13.06.2019 um 13:10 schrieb Dave - G4RQI:

Hello Ralph,

 

I was using beacon spot to spot the beacon !

 

73 David

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Ralph via Groups.Io <Ralph.Bird@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 11:42 am
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Good morning David,

 

I am more awake this morning so will try to be clearer.

 

The DX clusters are :- GB7DJK,ON4KST-2, 5SOCLX. (There used to be more)

The way these clusters are maintained (with the latest beacon info) the

Better they perform.

You could try changing these by the command : /setclx then space GB7DJK,

For example. See if that improves the situation.

Hope this may solve your problem.  Or alternatively use the Beaconspot UK

Site and spot the beacons there .

 

73

Ralph G4ALY

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 13 June 2019 07:50
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello Ralph,

 

I was using the https://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php website to spot the beacons.

 

73 David

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Ralph via Groups.Io <Ralph.Bird@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 11:00 pm
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Good evening David,

 

It could be the access you are using I.e. the way they have set up the routing for various beacons causing a double entries- it happens a lot with me when I spot 2.3GHz beacons

At my age, I have forgotten the correct term used for these points of access. !

Their routing sometimes is not correct.  Try changing the access to the DX Cluster

Should help, I hope hi

 

 

 

Quel age !!

 

73

Ralph

 

Sent fromMail for Windows 10

 

From:Dave - G4RQI
Sent: 12 June 2019 20:15
To: ukmicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] beaconspot

 

Hello...

 

I’m sorry if this has been answered before... I have posted a couple of 3cm beacon spots this evening usinghttps://www.beaconspot.uk/beaconsp.php but when I do the spot appears twice on the DxCluster. The frequency is correct for one of the spots but 5Khz is added to the 2nd spot. Does anyone know why?

 

73 David

Sent fromMail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 


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