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Re: Farnell Handling Charge was zero

Colin G4EML
 

There is something strange going on, the Farnell website delivery information page changes depending on if I am logged in or not. The free delivery line appears and disappears from the Trade accounts. It looks like they are probably in the middle of implementing a change. Maybe some accounts have the charge and some do not. Or maybe they have multiple servers and the web pages are different.

 

£2 handling charge is not actually too bad though. Non account customers get charged up to £9.95.

 

RS is still free for account holders but I can’t see that lasting much longer. Parcelforce next day delivery on a £1.00 order doesn’t make much commercial sense however convenient it is.

 

Colin.

 

 

 

 

From: Dave G8KHU
Sent: 18 May 2021 17:16
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] Farnell Handling Charge was zero

 

I just tried a test order and the handling charge remained, I went right up to the submit page and it remained but the payment method was definitely set to trade account.

Wierd that different people have different experiences, I shall have a nag at customer service tomorrow.

Dave

 


Re: Farnell Handling Charge was zero

Andy G4JNT
 

Madder and madder
Just tried again, £15 test order and it's back - all cancelled of course.

But is later in the day - wonder if that's got anything to do with it?



On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 17:20, Dave G8KHU <david@...> wrote:
I just tried a test order and the handling charge remained, I went right up to the submit page and it remained but the payment method was definitely set to trade account.

Wierd that different people have different experiences, I shall have a nag at customer service tomorrow.

Dave


Re: 6cm lo?

Andy G4JNT
 

(No. No PCBs available)



On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 17:14, militaryoperator via groups.io <Military1944=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thinking on the LO for 5760, 4469 for 23cm if or 5328 for 70cm if.

The ADF4351 only goes to 4.4Ghz

The ADF4355 and MAX2870 goes to 6Ghx but the built boards on ebay are costly.

I tried the Bodnar unit, 810Mhz max so at 744 and using the harmonics, too low, needs amp. 

I guess I could use the 4351 at f/3 at 1488 for 23cm if or 1776 for 70cms, with a bit of amp/filtering?

I just wondered how others have supplied their LO freq?

Ben.


Re: Farnell Handling Charge was zero

Dave G8KHU
 

I just tried a test order and the handling charge remained, I went right up to the submit page and it remained but the payment method was definitely set to trade account.

Wierd that different people have different experiences, I shall have a nag at customer service tomorrow.

Dave


Re: Farnell Handling Charge

Dave - G4RQI
 

Hello Roger

 

I tried replying to the message you sent me just now and it got bounced as spam... something about O365, maybe it’s in your spam folder. Bit odd seeming the first one got through... Microsoft’s canned reply was I should try ringing you up.

 

73 David

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: R Hopkins via groups.io
Sent: 17 May 2021 17:16
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] Farnell Handling Charge

 

I don't think it's them Andy.

I haven't ordered anything from them for a while and I'm not registered as a trade customer with
either of them just Joe Public. I'll phone tomorrow to see what's occurring.

Roger   GW4NOS

On Mon, 17 May 2021 17:08:18 +0100, you wrote:

>RS was OK a few hours ago
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>On Mon, 17 May 2021 at 16:59, R Hopkins via groups.io <gw4nos=
>btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
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>> I placed the same order with RS and when I logged in the basket was
>> cleared and I was told there was
>> a problem with my account and please contact customer services.
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>> I've been dealing with both companies for donkey's years. What's going on?
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>> Roger   GW4NOS
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>> On Mon, 17 May 2021 16:53:43 +0100, you wrote:
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>> >RS still do free delivery for collection at the Trade Counter.   As it's
>> >only a 20 minute walk away guess where first choice will be now.
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>> >I have a Farnell account, have had for decades, and this is the first time
>> >they've ever added on any handling charge.
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>> >> I put £21 worth of stuff in Farnell's basket the other day and the total
>> >> came to over £55 with
>> >> everything they added on.
>> >> Needless to say I dumped the basket.
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>> >> On Mon, 17 May 2021 13:42:48 +0100, you wrote:
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>> >> >Farnell have just, (as of today I was told) introduced a £2 handling
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Re: Farnell Handling Charge was zero

Andy G4JNT
 

Well, they made a mistake yesterday and lost my order to RS.   I always place orders on line and it was showing £2.00 - so immediately deleted basket



On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 16:36, Colin G4EML <colin@...> wrote:

According to their website there is no handling fee for trade accounts if the order is placed online. The £2 charge is for orders less than £40 placed by phone.  

 

Non trade accounts are online only and free for greater than £40, £5.95 for £20-£40 and £9.95 for less than £20.

 

 

Colin.

 

 

 

From: Andy G4JNT
Sent: 18 May 2021 16:13
To: UK Microwaves groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] Farnell Handling Charge was zero

 

YES....

Weird.    I just tested by placing a small order in my basket, £7.95 and you're correct, the handling charge is now zero.

I was told the charge had been introduced "yesterday".  Wonder if they got so many complaints and cancellations, that's one experiment in marketing shown to be a total failure

Got as far as "submit order",  still no handling charge showing so I did.

Might as well have a few PIC16F1847 devices on the shelf - it's one of the latest 'preferred' types in the mid-range family.

 

 

 

On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 16:01, Dave Cawley G4IUG <help@...> wrote:

 

Just placed a £5 order with Farnell, as soon as I logged in the postage disappeared to zero.

73  Dave  G4IUG

 

 

 


Re: Re signal generator

Dave
 

Hi Alan,
That’s great Alan. Thanks very much.
73
Dave G4GLT. 


On 18 May 2021, at 14:02, Alan Melia via groups.io <Alan.Melia@...> wrote:


Hi Dave further to Simon's posting this is the BG7TBL web site
 
Alan
G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] Re signal generator

Hello Mihai,
I am reluctant to open up my piece of new equipment at this stage. I was just looking for an online manual if there is one. 
73
Dave G4GLT. 


On 18 May 2021, at 12:45, Mihai, YO8RHM via groups.io <yo8rhm@...> wrote:

You have photos of what's inside?

Mihai YO8RHM


6cm lo?

militaryoperator
 

Thinking on the LO for 5760, 4469 for 23cm if or 5328 for 70cm if.

The ADF4351 only goes to 4.4Ghz

The ADF4355 and MAX2870 goes to 6Ghx but the built boards on ebay are costly.

I tried the Bodnar unit, 810Mhz max so at 744 and using the harmonics, too low, needs amp. 

I guess I could use the 4351 at f/3 at 1488 for 23cm if or 1776 for 70cms, with a bit of amp/filtering?

I just wondered how others have supplied their LO freq?

Ben.


Re: Farnell Handling Charge was zero

Colin G4EML
 

According to their website there is no handling fee for trade accounts if the order is placed online. The £2 charge is for orders less than £40 placed by phone.  

 

Non trade accounts are online only and free for greater than £40, £5.95 for £20-£40 and £9.95 for less than £20.

 

 

Colin.

 

 

 

From: Andy G4JNT
Sent: 18 May 2021 16:13
To: UK Microwaves groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] Farnell Handling Charge was zero

 

YES....

Weird.    I just tested by placing a small order in my basket, £7.95 and you're correct, the handling charge is now zero.

I was told the charge had been introduced "yesterday".  Wonder if they got so many complaints and cancellations, that's one experiment in marketing shown to be a total failure

Got as far as "submit order",  still no handling charge showing so I did.

Might as well have a few PIC16F1847 devices on the shelf - it's one of the latest 'preferred' types in the mid-range family.

 

 

 

On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 16:01, Dave Cawley G4IUG <help@...> wrote:

 

Just placed a £5 order with Farnell, as soon as I logged in the postage disappeared to zero.

73  Dave  G4IUG

 

 

 


Re: Farnell Handling Charge was zero

Andy G4JNT
 

YES....
Weird.    I just tested by placing a small order in my basket, £7.95 and you're correct, the handling charge is now zero.
I was told the charge had been introduced "yesterday".  Wonder if they got so many complaints and cancellations, that's one experiment in marketing shown to be a total failure
Got as far as "submit order",  still no handling charge showing so I did.
Might as well have a few PIC16F1847 devices on the shelf - it's one of the latest 'preferred' types in the mid-range family.



On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 16:01, Dave Cawley G4IUG <help@...> wrote:


Just placed a £5 order with Farnell, as soon as I logged in the postage disappeared to zero.

73  Dave  G4IUG




Re: Farnell Handling Charge was zero

Dave Cawley G4IUG
 


Just placed a £5 order with Farnell, as soon as I logged in the postage disappeared to zero.

73  Dave  G4IUG




Re: Re signal generator

Alan Melia
 


Hi Dave further to Simon's posting this is the BG7TBL web site
 
Alan
G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] Re signal generator

Hello Mihai,
I am reluctant to open up my piece of new equipment at this stage. I was just looking for an online manual if there is one. 
73
Dave G4GLT. 


On 18 May 2021, at 12:45, Mihai, YO8RHM via groups.io <yo8rhm@...> wrote:

You have photos of what's inside?

Mihai YO8RHM


Re: Re signal generator

Dave
 

Thank you very much indeed Simon,
The instructions are just what I am looking for.
73
Dave G4GLT.

On 18 May 2021, at 13:48, Simon Brown <simon@sdr-radio.com> wrote:

Maybe: http://www.reeve.com/Documents/Articles%20Papers/Reeve_WB-SG1_SigGen.pdf

Simon Brown, G4ELI
https://www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave via groups.io
Sent: 18 May 2021 12:25
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] Re signal generator

I bought the WB-SG1 signal generator to 15ghz from Aliexpress.Seems excellent but I can’t seem to find the manual. Has anyone got this piece of kit?
73
Dave G4GLT.












Re: Re signal generator

Simon Brown
 

-----Original Message-----
From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave via groups.io
Sent: 18 May 2021 12:25
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] Re signal generator

I bought the WB-SG1 signal generator to 15ghz from Aliexpress.Seems excellent but I can’t seem to find the manual. Has anyone got this piece of kit?
73
Dave G4GLT.


Re: Re signal generator

Dave
 

Hello Mihai,
I am reluctant to open up my piece of new equipment at this stage. I was just looking for an online manual if there is one. 
73
Dave G4GLT. 


On 18 May 2021, at 12:45, Mihai, YO8RHM via groups.io <yo8rhm@...> wrote:

You have photos of what's inside?

Mihai YO8RHM


Re: Re signal generator

Mihai, YO8RHM
 

You have photos of what's inside?

Mihai YO8RHM


Re signal generator

Dave
 

I bought the WB-SG1 signal generator to 15ghz from Aliexpress.Seems excellent but I can’t seem to find the manual. Has anyone got this piece of kit?
73
Dave G4GLT.


Re: Dish Mesh information

John Lemay
 

Mike

 

If you download EME Planner by VK3UM, you will be able to experiment endlessly with the effect of different mesh sizes (along with different f/d, different dish sizes, different feeds etc.). A good starting point is to keep the gap in the mesh smaller than one tenth of a wavelength.

 

I made a 2m dish using aluminium mesh and it worked well, but I eventually concluded that the wires needed to be thicker than steel to get the same strength, and consequently the wind load went up. My current dish uses galvanised steel mesh – my mesh came from F H Brundle.

 

Your biggest challenge will be to make the ribs to an accurate profile. Mine were bent by hand in a heavy vice, bit by bit, with frequent checks against a drawn profile. The first one took hours, the last one just a few minutes. It might seem obvious to bend the material against a pre-formed rigid profile, but that requires you to understand and compensate for the inevitable springback.

 

Regarding aluminium sheet, remember that it has to be formed in three dimensions to obtain a parabola – in other words it is not a straight line between each rib. That’s not easy to explain !

 

John G4ZTR

 

 

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike GD6ICR
Sent: 18 May 2021 10:44
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] Dish Mesh information

 

I am considering building a dish from scratch. What is there a relationship between dish mesh size and frequency and aluminium or stainless (i know its heavier but more durable) or foil covered fibreglass or even lightweight aluminium sheet. I realize also that the solid type dishes have a much higher wind loading. But the aluminium sheet is free and I can form it into 6 or more sections. I have had a look at the W1GHZ microwave pages but would like to see how UK based amateurs have constructed them as we dont have the kind of suppliers US has. Any help would be appreciated.

--
Mike GD6ICR IO74PF73TW


Re: Dish Mesh information

John Fell
 

Hi Mike ,
The traditional view is to limit mesh perforation to under 1/10 of the wavelength in use .

I would not go for SS on weight and cost grounds - Aluminium alloy is used widely and is able to withstand the demands of WX in UK .It is also far easier to form and drill .

To make the call on self construction we need to know what you plan to do with the dish .

Profile accuracy requirements scale with rising frequency .

73

John
G0API

On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 10:44, Mike GD6ICR <gd6icr@...> wrote:
I am considering building a dish from scratch. What is there a relationship between dish mesh size and frequency and aluminium or stainless (i know its heavier but more durable) or foil covered fibreglass or even lightweight aluminium sheet. I realize also that the solid type dishes have a much higher wind loading. But the aluminium sheet is free and I can form it into 6 or more sections. I have had a look at the W1GHZ microwave pages but would like to see how UK based amateurs have constructed them as we dont have the kind of suppliers US has. Any help would be appreciated.

--
Mike GD6ICR IO74PF73TW


Dish Mesh information

Mike GD6ICR
 

I am considering building a dish from scratch. What is there a relationship between dish mesh size and frequency and aluminium or stainless (i know its heavier but more durable) or foil covered fibreglass or even lightweight aluminium sheet. I realize also that the solid type dishes have a much higher wind loading. But the aluminium sheet is free and I can form it into 6 or more sections. I have had a look at the W1GHZ microwave pages but would like to see how UK based amateurs have constructed them as we dont have the kind of suppliers US has. Any help would be appreciated.

--
Mike GD6ICR IO74PF73TW

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