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Re: The convention and tin boxes

G3UVR Denis IO83KH
 

Alan.

I require one of your tin boxes for the G3XDY 23cm harmonic filter

Due to work commitments and the distance involved I will not be going to the convention so will require to pay and have it sent by post however I seem to be having trouble ordering it online  like I have to register first? The web page wont even let me view your stocked range. Is this the case?

Am I doing something wrong?

73 de Denis G3UVR

The convention and tin boxes

Alan Melia
 

Hi all, I will be attending the RSGB Convention on Saturday I can bring some boxes to order if advised in advance. Payment in real money on the day, or Paypal in advance.

Alan
G3NYK

Re: Connecting coax in wet weather

Conrad, PA5Y
 

Mark et al.

Thanks for the tips. I will use Denso I think, once I find a local source. Mark's recommendations seem to make sense to me and while I can live (and do) without Eastenders I don't want to be forever messing about with coax. I am already sick to death of it ūüôā

73

Conrad




From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io> on behalf of Mark GM4ISM via Groups.Io <gm4ism@...>
Sent: 05 October 2019 21:20
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io <UKMicrowaves@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] Connecting coax in wet weather
 
Hi All
To be clear
A tight layer of PVC tape is still required over the self amalg.  Denso cannot really  be used to compress the self amalg.  That compression is, I believe, an important factor in sealing the joint.
 
 
To summarise what is done in my professional world.
we expect to apply 4 layers in effect
1 good layer of¬† self amalg with little stretch. This extends 1‚ÄĚ beyond the¬† end of the connector and any boot
2 a layer of stretched self amalg  over the top of the 1st layer
3 a layer of tightly wound PVC tale extending¬† 1‚ÄĚbeyond¬† the self amalg
4 a layer of Denso¬† extending 1‚ÄĚ beyond the PVC
 
Good practice is to then smooth down the surface of the denso with added grease if necessary, by hand.  Twisting so as not to accidentally undo the connector.
 
Messy job but  it will last for years.
 
This practice is  not  unique to the broadcast world, though some don’t apply the denso and put more PVC on.   I have tried this ( For several years over a large number of sites) and  despite the possibility of  water becoming trapped under the PVC I did not observe an increased failure rate.  Standard practice as above, including denso was formalised  many years ago in my organisation. 
 
 
Denso directly applied on self amalg results in a horrible mess after a time and while I have no direct evidence of degradation, I think there  is some long term change to the amalg tape due to the oils in the Denso. This is much reduced with the PVC layer
 
As a useful side effect that layer of PVC make taking the denso off much less messy. 
 
My organisation must have upwards of 2000 antenna systems  that use this waterproofing regime. Each may have on average 10 joints.
If the joints leaked, many people could loose Eastenders, Radio 1 or other  critical services.
The technique was developed before my time in the industry and I have not been able to substantially improve on it.   Investigating  where water  did get in  concluding that if done properly and with care, these joint have a very good MTBF
 
On last point 
Self amalg is a variable  substance.   If it doesn't instantly stick to itself under brief applied pressure such that you cant pull it apart  back to the individual layers, it probably wont keep water out!
 
As it is, I don’t use Denso on my amateur systems, just self amalg and UV stable PVC
 
Mark GM4ISM
 
 
 
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2019 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] Connecting coax in wet weather
 
Dear Paul,
 
To answer your questions:
 

Regarding your statement

I am unconvinced on wrapping plastic insulating tape over self-amalgamating

Please could you explain  as I have been using this method for approaching 50 years and from this thread others adopt the same methods

To follow Mark‚Äôs statement that "PVC tape does not contribute much to the waterproofing.‚ÄĚ my observation is that water gets in under the insulating tape and is trapped there, contributing to leakage. Thus it is better to use Denso tape and if Denso tape is used, no PVC tape is needed to protect the self-amalgamating tape from UV.¬†

now frowned upon by most operators for H&S reasons, joints protected by the DTELS method of self-amlagamting tape

could you please explain DTELS

DTELS- the Home Office Directorate of Telecommunications- privatised in 1994.
 
Regards,
 
Alwyn
 
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Re: New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

Alan Melia
 

ÔĽŅ
Hi Andy after reading the description again.....I think I agree. It complicates a simple posting procedure too much. Well it was worth a thought (I hope)
Alan
G3NYK
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Andy G4JNT
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2019 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

I took a look at subgroups.   I don't think it's any better a facility than a separate group, except that they are linked to the main one by name.   A subgroup has to be joined; different email used, and it looks as if the main group's email has to be modified as well.



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On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 22:11, Alan Melia via Groups.Io <Alan.Melia=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Paul If you login to the web site click the ''help'' button and on the upper left menu you will see a ''subgroups''  item which describes the facility.
 
I think I was mistaken in that I thought any member could set up a subgroup..... this is a group within (say) UKMicrowaves. It would seem these need to be set up by the group owner. This would keep all microwave topics within the group, but group member can choose whether the want to join the subgroup. The addressing of messages is a little different which might prove a problem.
 
So maybe the use of hashtags would be easier but I dont know it would facilitate selection except you may be able to mute i.e not receive messages with a certain hashtag. this again is described in the help but it does not explain their use in filtering.
 
It is of course possible to mute Topics. I must try this.
 
Alan
G3NYK
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

Hi Alan

 

You say perhaps we should encourage the sub-groups idea

Do you mean something lick I suggested yesterday before I was aware the VK lad’s hade taken my previews E mails on bored

and realised the drop box wasn’t the best solution  as in the following text that I posted on Saturday

 

Peter 

 

you do have  Cris’s call correct according to my records

And that makes 3 of you with the ability to make 4 systems

Providing all are ordered

 

With this in mind do we require a Group.io    40 Ghz plus

 

Regards Paul

 

Alan the problem is  we currently have about 33 Built and tested board’s  on order with  only 25 people interested

The new  122 ghz Group (VK) site  will have all the updates an order details and shipping dates on it so you want that traffic on this site ?

Plus the file storage on this sit has to be paid for after we exceed our allowance

 

Owner  / moderator  comments welcome on the way forward  regarding the sub-groups idea

 

Another possibility to post on the Wicky  but all working on the 122 ghz project must have access to post on it for it to work

 

You say but it would then be a quick way to find who was active  we have a group that it was suggested  when the owner died

would make an ideal site for pre arranging contacts that is  waveguide@...  it is idle but it is all tested and working

 

Regards Paul    Sorry  I was  long winded  but this should be decided by the Group not one person and defiantly not me

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 18:48
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi Paul yes was too busy to day to investigate the new group and so did not realise it was a VK thing (thanks Neil) That makes a lot more sense but perhaps we should encourage the sub-groups idea it would make life easier for some. For example the contest activity messages could be grouped in an approprate sub-group. (I only say that as not currently being active I dont read those :-))  ) but it would then be a quick way to find who was active...... a sort of high level message filter........ Just a thought !

 

Best Wishes for 122G and above DX

Alan

G3NYK

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 12:22 PM

Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi Alan

 

Thank you for your comment  firstly have you visited the new group ?

You will see there is a lot of information already on it

 

OK your question Why or why move it to another group

 

The 122 Ghz project is NOT a UK  design  / project it was inspired  outside the UK

The New Group was set up by the original team being outside of the UK  and not all of them are members of UK microwave

 

Hopefully this helps with the explanation of the new group

 

Regards Paul

 

P.S  Has Roger received your order yet for the 122 ghz project ?

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 11:58
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Why or why move it to another group?? you could have set a sub-group on UK microwaves which would have enabled the rest of us to keep up with developments if we so chose. Now you have fragmented the group and the ''life'' of this particular project will probably be short anyway.

 

Alan

G3NYK

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 10:52 AM

Subject: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi all

 

Last night I was given permission to put information relating to the 122 Ghz project on the UK microwave group

 

But like magic a new group has been created    and this has all the  available information  in its files section

It can be found at                       https://groups.io/g/The122GProject

 

Regards Paul

 

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Re: New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

Andy G4JNT
 

I took a look at subgroups.   I don't think it's any better a facility than a separate group, except that they are linked to the main one by name.   A subgroup has to be joined; different email used, and it looks as if the main group's email has to be modified as well.



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On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 22:11, Alan Melia via Groups.Io <Alan.Melia=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Paul If you login to the web site click the ''help'' button and on the upper left menu you will see a ''subgroups''  item which describes the facility.
 
I think I was mistaken in that I thought any member could set up a subgroup..... this is a group within (say) UKMicrowaves. It would seem these need to be set up by the group owner. This would keep all microwave topics within the group, but group member can choose whether the want to join the subgroup. The addressing of messages is a little different which might prove a problem.
 
So maybe the use of hashtags would be easier but I dont know it would facilitate selection except you may be able to mute i.e not receive messages with a certain hashtag. this again is described in the help but it does not explain their use in filtering.
 
It is of course possible to mute Topics. I must try this.
 
Alan
G3NYK
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

Hi Alan

 

You say perhaps we should encourage the sub-groups idea

Do you mean something lick I suggested yesterday before I was aware the VK lad’s hade taken my previews E mails on bored

and realised the drop box wasn’t the best solution  as in the following text that I posted on Saturday

 

Peter 

 

you do have  Cris’s call correct according to my records

And that makes 3 of you with the ability to make 4 systems

Providing all are ordered

 

With this in mind do we require a Group.io    40 Ghz plus

 

Regards Paul

 

Alan the problem is  we currently have about 33 Built and tested board’s  on order with  only 25 people interested

The new  122 ghz Group (VK) site  will have all the updates an order details and shipping dates on it so you want that traffic on this site ?

Plus the file storage on this sit has to be paid for after we exceed our allowance

 

Owner  / moderator  comments welcome on the way forward  regarding the sub-groups idea

 

Another possibility to post on the Wicky  but all working on the 122 ghz project must have access to post on it for it to work

 

You say but it would then be a quick way to find who was active  we have a group that it was suggested  when the owner died

would make an ideal site for pre arranging contacts that is  waveguide@...  it is idle but it is all tested and working

 

Regards Paul    Sorry  I was  long winded  but this should be decided by the Group not one person and defiantly not me

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 18:48
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi Paul yes was too busy to day to investigate the new group and so did not realise it was a VK thing (thanks Neil) That makes a lot more sense but perhaps we should encourage the sub-groups idea it would make life easier for some. For example the contest activity messages could be grouped in an approprate sub-group. (I only say that as not currently being active I dont read those :-))  ) but it would then be a quick way to find who was active...... a sort of high level message filter........ Just a thought !

 

Best Wishes for 122G and above DX

Alan

G3NYK

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 12:22 PM

Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi Alan

 

Thank you for your comment  firstly have you visited the new group ?

You will see there is a lot of information already on it

 

OK your question Why or why move it to another group

 

The 122 Ghz project is NOT a UK  design  / project it was inspired  outside the UK

The New Group was set up by the original team being outside of the UK  and not all of them are members of UK microwave

 

Hopefully this helps with the explanation of the new group

 

Regards Paul

 

P.S  Has Roger received your order yet for the 122 ghz project ?

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 11:58
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Why or why move it to another group?? you could have set a sub-group on UK microwaves which would have enabled the rest of us to keep up with developments if we so chose. Now you have fragmented the group and the ''life'' of this particular project will probably be short anyway.

 

Alan

G3NYK

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 10:52 AM

Subject: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi all

 

Last night I was given permission to put information relating to the 122 Ghz project on the UK microwave group

 

But like magic a new group has been created    and this has all the  available information  in its files section

It can be found at                       https://groups.io/g/The122GProject

 

Regards Paul

 

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SynOptika Ltd.,
114 Beaufort Street,
London,
SW3 6BU,
England.

Tel.: +44 (0) 20 7376 4110


SynOptika Ltd., Registered in England and Wales: No. 04606737
Registered Office: 114 Beaufort Street, London, SW3 6BU, United Kingdom.

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Re: New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

Paul G8KFW
 

Interesting

 

This group currently has             432       Members

Scatterpoint has                        561       Members

The new 122 Ghz group has        87         Members

 

So hopefully 25 of them are from the UK  that makes an extra 60 plus like minded people playing with the 122 ghz equipment

 

That has got to be good  so I believe the requirement for this group to have a sub group or a hash tags is not required

 

Regards Paul

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Re: New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

Paul G8KFW
 

Hi Alan

 

I have seen the Hash tag button but unfortunately I do not now about ''subgroups''  or hash tags

 

I believe  both require the permission of the site owner

 

Could you please explain how both ''subgroups''  or hash tags  work

 

Regards Paul

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 22:11
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

 

Hi Paul If you login to the web site click the ''help'' button and on the upper left menu you will see a ''subgroups''  item which describes the facility.

 

I think I was mistaken in that I thought any member could set up a subgroup..... this is a group within (say) UKMicrowaves. It would seem these need to be set up by the group owner. This would keep all microwave topics within the group, but group member can choose whether the want to join the subgroup. The addressing of messages is a little different which might prove a problem.

 

So maybe the use of hashtags would be easier but I dont know it would facilitate selection except you may be able to mute i.e not receive messages with a certain hashtag. this again is described in the help but it does not explain their use in filtering.

 

It is of course possible to mute Topics. I must try this.

 

Alan

G3NYK

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 9:33 PM

Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

 

Hi Alan

 

You say perhaps we should encourage the sub-groups idea

Do you mean something lick I suggested yesterday before I was aware the VK lad’s hade taken my previews E mails on bored

and realised the drop box wasn’t the best solution  as in the following text that I posted on Saturday

 

Peter 

 

you do have  Cris’s call correct according to my records

And that makes 3 of you with the ability to make 4 systems

Providing all are ordered

 

With this in mind do we require a Group.io    40 Ghz plus

 

Regards Paul

 

Alan the problem is  we currently have about 33 Built and tested board’s  on order with  only 25 people interested

The new  122 ghz Group (VK) site  will have all the updates an order details and shipping dates on it so you want that traffic on this site ?

Plus the file storage on this sit has to be paid for after we exceed our allowance

 

Owner  / moderator  comments welcome on the way forward  regarding the sub-groups idea

 

Another possibility to post on the Wicky  but all working on the 122 ghz project must have access to post on it for it to work

 

You say but it would then be a quick way to find who was active  we have a group that it was suggested  when the owner died

would make an ideal site for pre arranging contacts that is  waveguide@...  it is idle but it is all tested and working

 

Regards Paul    Sorry  I was  long winded  but this should be decided by the Group not one person and defiantly not me

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 18:48
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi Paul yes was too busy to day to investigate the new group and so did not realise it was a VK thing (thanks Neil) That makes a lot more sense but perhaps we should encourage the sub-groups idea it would make life easier for some. For example the contest activity messages could be grouped in an approprate sub-group. (I only say that as not currently being active I dont read those :-))  ) but it would then be a quick way to find who was active...... a sort of high level message filter........ Just a thought !

 

Best Wishes for 122G and above DX

Alan

G3NYK

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 12:22 PM

Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi Alan

 

Thank you for your comment  firstly have you visited the new group ?

You will see there is a lot of information already on it

 

OK your question Why or why move it to another group

 

The 122 Ghz project is NOT a UK  design  / project it was inspired  outside the UK

The New Group was set up by the original team being outside of the UK  and not all of them are members of UK microwave

 

Hopefully this helps with the explanation of the new group

 

Regards Paul

 

P.S  Has Roger received your order yet for the 122 ghz project ?

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 11:58
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Why or why move it to another group?? you could have set a sub-group on UK microwaves which would have enabled the rest of us to keep up with developments if we so chose. Now you have fragmented the group and the ''life'' of this particular project will probably be short anyway.

 

Alan

G3NYK

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 10:52 AM

Subject: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi all

 

Last night I was given permission to put information relating to the 122 Ghz project on the UK microwave group

 

But like magic a new group has been created    and this has all the  available information  in its files section

It can be found at                       https://groups.io/g/The122GProject

 

Regards Paul

 

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SynOptika Ltd.,
114 Beaufort Street,
London,
SW3 6BU,
England.

Tel.: +44 (0) 20 7376 4110


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Registered Office: 114 Beaufort Street, London, SW3 6BU, United Kingdom.

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Re: New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

Alan Melia
 

Hi Paul If you login to the web site click the ''help'' button and on the upper left menu you will see a ''subgroups''  item which describes the facility.
 
I think I was mistaken in that I thought any member could set up a subgroup..... this is a group within (say) UKMicrowaves. It would seem these need to be set up by the group owner. This would keep all microwave topics within the group, but group member can choose whether the want to join the subgroup. The addressing of messages is a little different which might prove a problem.
 
So maybe the use of hashtags would be easier but I dont know it would facilitate selection except you may be able to mute i.e not receive messages with a certain hashtag. this again is described in the help but it does not explain their use in filtering.
 
It is of course possible to mute Topics. I must try this.
 
Alan
G3NYK
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

Hi Alan

 

You say perhaps we should encourage the sub-groups idea

Do you mean something lick I suggested yesterday before I was aware the VK lad’s hade taken my previews E mails on bored

and realised the drop box wasn’t the best solution  as in the following text that I posted on Saturday

 

Peter 

 

you do have  Cris’s call correct according to my records

And that makes 3 of you with the ability to make 4 systems

Providing all are ordered

 

With this in mind do we require a Group.io    40 Ghz plus

 

Regards Paul

 

Alan the problem is  we currently have about 33 Built and tested board’s  on order with  only 25 people interested

The new  122 ghz Group (VK) site  will have all the updates an order details and shipping dates on it so you want that traffic on this site ?

Plus the file storage on this sit has to be paid for after we exceed our allowance

 

Owner  / moderator  comments welcome on the way forward  regarding the sub-groups idea

 

Another possibility to post on the Wicky  but all working on the 122 ghz project must have access to post on it for it to work

 

You say but it would then be a quick way to find who was active  we have a group that it was suggested  when the owner died

would make an ideal site for pre arranging contacts that is  waveguide@...  it is idle but it is all tested and working

 

Regards Paul    Sorry  I was  long winded  but this should be decided by the Group not one person and defiantly not me

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 18:48
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi Paul yes was too busy to day to investigate the new group and so did not realise it was a VK thing (thanks Neil) That makes a lot more sense but perhaps we should encourage the sub-groups idea it would make life easier for some. For example the contest activity messages could be grouped in an approprate sub-group. (I only say that as not currently being active I dont read those :-))  ) but it would then be a quick way to find who was active...... a sort of high level message filter........ Just a thought !

 

Best Wishes for 122G and above DX

Alan

G3NYK

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 12:22 PM

Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi Alan

 

Thank you for your comment  firstly have you visited the new group ?

You will see there is a lot of information already on it

 

OK your question Why or why move it to another group

 

The 122 Ghz project is NOT a UK  design  / project it was inspired  outside the UK

The New Group was set up by the original team being outside of the UK  and not all of them are members of UK microwave

 

Hopefully this helps with the explanation of the new group

 

Regards Paul

 

P.S  Has Roger received your order yet for the 122 ghz project ?

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 11:58
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Why or why move it to another group?? you could have set a sub-group on UK microwaves which would have enabled the rest of us to keep up with developments if we so chose. Now you have fragmented the group and the ''life'' of this particular project will probably be short anyway.

 

Alan

G3NYK

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 10:52 AM

Subject: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi all

 

Last night I was given permission to put information relating to the 122 Ghz project on the UK microwave group

 

But like magic a new group has been created    and this has all the  available information  in its files section

It can be found at                       https://groups.io/g/The122GProject

 

Regards Paul

 

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London,
SW3 6BU,
England.

Tel.: +44 (0) 20 7376 4110


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Re: New 122 Ghz project group Owner / moderator comments welcome

Paul G8KFW
 

Hi Alan

 

You say perhaps we should encourage the sub-groups idea

Do you mean something lick I suggested yesterday before I was aware the VK lad’s hade taken my previews E mails on bored

and realised the drop box wasn’t the best solution  as in the following text that I posted on Saturday

 

Peter 

 

you do have  Cris’s call correct according to my records

And that makes 3 of you with the ability to make 4 systems

Providing all are ordered

 

With this in mind do we require a Group.io    40 Ghz plus

 

Regards Paul

 

Alan the problem is  we currently have about 33 Built and tested board’s  on order with  only 25 people interested

The new  122 ghz Group (VK) site  will have all the updates an order details and shipping dates on it so you want that traffic on this site ?

Plus the file storage on this sit has to be paid for after we exceed our allowance

 

Owner  / moderator  comments welcome on the way forward  regarding the sub-groups idea

 

Another possibility to post on the Wicky  but all working on the 122 ghz project must have access to post on it for it to work

 

You say but it would then be a quick way to find who was active  we have a group that it was suggested  when the owner died

would make an ideal site for pre arranging contacts that is  waveguide@...  it is idle but it is all tested and working

 

Regards Paul    Sorry  I was  long winded  but this should be decided by the Group not one person and defiantly not me

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 18:48
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi Paul yes was too busy to day to investigate the new group and so did not realise it was a VK thing (thanks Neil) That makes a lot more sense but perhaps we should encourage the sub-groups idea it would make life easier for some. For example the contest activity messages could be grouped in an approprate sub-group. (I only say that as not currently being active I dont read those :-))  ) but it would then be a quick way to find who was active...... a sort of high level message filter........ Just a thought !

 

Best Wishes for 122G and above DX

Alan

G3NYK

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 12:22 PM

Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi Alan

 

Thank you for your comment  firstly have you visited the new group ?

You will see there is a lot of information already on it

 

OK your question Why or why move it to another group

 

The 122 Ghz project is NOT a UK  design  / project it was inspired  outside the UK

The New Group was set up by the original team being outside of the UK  and not all of them are members of UK microwave

 

Hopefully this helps with the explanation of the new group

 

Regards Paul

 

P.S  Has Roger received your order yet for the 122 ghz project ?

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 11:58
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Why or why move it to another group?? you could have set a sub-group on UK microwaves which would have enabled the rest of us to keep up with developments if we so chose. Now you have fragmented the group and the ''life'' of this particular project will probably be short anyway.

 

Alan

G3NYK

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 10:52 AM

Subject: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi all

 

Last night I was given permission to put information relating to the 122 Ghz project on the UK microwave group

 

But like magic a new group has been created    and this has all the  available information  in its files section

It can be found at                       https://groups.io/g/The122GProject

 

Regards Paul

 

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114 Beaufort Street,
London,
SW3 6BU,
England.

Tel.: +44 (0) 20 7376 4110


SynOptika Ltd., Registered in England and Wales: No. 04606737
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Re: New 122 Ghz project group

Alan Melia
 

Hi Paul yes was too busy to day to investigate the new group and so did not realise it was a VK thing (thanks Neil) That makes a lot more sense but perhaps we should encourage the sub-groups idea it would make life easier for some. For example the contest activity messages could be grouped in an approprate sub-group. (I only say that as not currently being active I dont read those :-))  ) but it would then be a quick way to find who was active...... a sort of high level message filter........ Just a thought !
 
Best Wishes for 122G and above DX
Alan
G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

Hi Alan

 

Thank you for your comment  firstly have you visited the new group ?

You will see there is a lot of information already on it

 

OK your question Why or why move it to another group

 

The 122 Ghz project is NOT a UK  design  / project it was inspired  outside the UK

The New Group was set up by the original team being outside of the UK  and not all of them are members of UK microwave

 

Hopefully this helps with the explanation of the new group

 

Regards Paul

 

P.S  Has Roger received your order yet for the 122 ghz project ?

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 11:58
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Why or why move it to another group?? you could have set a sub-group on UK microwaves which would have enabled the rest of us to keep up with developments if we so chose. Now you have fragmented the group and the ''life'' of this particular project will probably be short anyway.

 

Alan

G3NYK

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 10:52 AM

Subject: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi all

 

Last night I was given permission to put information relating to the 122 Ghz project on the UK microwave group

 

But like magic a new group has been created    and this has all the  available information  in its files section

It can be found at                       https://groups.io/g/The122GProject

 

Regards Paul

 

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SynOptika Ltd.,
114 Beaufort Street,
London,
SW3 6BU,
England.

Tel.: +44 (0) 20 7376 4110


SynOptika Ltd., Registered in England and Wales: No. 04606737
Registered Office: 114 Beaufort Street, London, SW3 6BU, United Kingdom.

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Re: New 122 Ghz project group

Paul G8KFW
 

Hi Alan

 

Thank you for your comment  firstly have you visited the new group ?

You will see there is a lot of information already on it

 

OK your question Why or why move it to another group

 

The 122 Ghz project is NOT a UK  design  / project it was inspired  outside the UK

The New Group was set up by the original team being outside of the UK  and not all of them are members of UK microwave

 

Hopefully this helps with the explanation of the new group

 

Regards Paul

 

P.S  Has Roger received your order yet for the 122 ghz project ?

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Melia via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2019 11:58
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Why or why move it to another group?? you could have set a sub-group on UK microwaves which would have enabled the rest of us to keep up with developments if we so chose. Now you have fragmented the group and the ''life'' of this particular project will probably be short anyway.

 

Alan

G3NYK

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 10:52 AM

Subject: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

 

Hi all

 

Last night I was given permission to put information relating to the 122 Ghz project on the UK microwave group

 

But like magic a new group has been created    and this has all the  available information  in its files section

It can be found at                       https://groups.io/g/The122GProject

 

Regards Paul

 

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SynOptika Ltd.,
114 Beaufort Street,
London,
SW3 6BU,
England.

Tel.: +44 (0) 20 7376 4110


SynOptika Ltd., Registered in England and Wales: No. 04606737
Registered Office: 114 Beaufort Street, London, SW3 6BU, United Kingdom.

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Re: New 122 Ghz project group

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

The new group has been set up by the VKs, Alan, to help with coordination and announcements about the manufacturing and ordering and admin.  I'm sure that we'll be using the UKuG wiki 122GHz section and putting stuff out on here about actual operations and experiments. It will be like the Polishamps group and will retire gracefully once the specific project reaches its natural endpoint

Neil

On 06/10/2019 11:58, Alan Melia via Groups.Io wrote:
Why or why move it to another group?? you could have set a sub-group on UK microwaves which would have enabled the rest of us to keep up with developments if we so chose. Now you have fragmented the group and the ''life'' of this particular project will probably be short anyway.
 
Alan
G3NYK
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 10:52 AM
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

Hi all

 

Last night I was given permission to put information relating to the 122 Ghz project on the UK microwave group

 

But like magic a new group has been created    and this has all the  available information  in its files section

It can be found at                       https://groups.io/g/The122GProject

 

Regards Paul

 

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SW3 6BU,
England.

Tel.: +44 (0) 20 7376 4110


SynOptika Ltd., Registered in England and Wales: No. 04606737
Registered Office: 114 Beaufort Street, London, SW3 6BU, United Kingdom.
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Re: New 122 Ghz project group

Alan Melia
 

Why or why move it to another group?? you could have set a sub-group on UK microwaves which would have enabled the rest of us to keep up with developments if we so chose. Now you have fragmented the group and the ''life'' of this particular project will probably be short anyway.
 
Alan
G3NYK
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 10:52 AM
Subject: [UKMicrowaves] New 122 Ghz project group

Hi all

 

Last night I was given permission to put information relating to the 122 Ghz project on the UK microwave group

 

But like magic a new group has been created    and this has all the  available information  in its files section

It can be found at                       https://groups.io/g/The122GProject

 

Regards Paul

 

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London,
SW3 6BU,
England.

Tel.: +44 (0) 20 7376 4110


SynOptika Ltd., Registered in England and Wales: No. 04606737
Registered Office: 114 Beaufort Street, London, SW3 6BU, United Kingdom.
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New 122 Ghz project group

Paul G8KFW
 

Hi all

 

Last night I was given permission to put information relating to the 122 Ghz project on the UK microwave group

 

But like magic a new group has been created    and this has all the  available information  in its files section

It can be found at                       https://groups.io/g/The122GProject

 

Regards Paul

 

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SynOptika Ltd.,
114 Beaufort Street,
London,
SW3 6BU,
England.

Tel.: +44 (0) 20 7376 4110


SynOptika Ltd., Registered in England and Wales: No. 04606737
Registered Office: 114 Beaufort Street, London, SW3 6BU, United Kingdom.
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Re: Connecting coax in wet weather

Paul G8KFW
 

Hi Alwyn

 

Thank you for the clarification I thought the H&S  risk was  for the self amalgamating

But  I totally understand the H&S  risk for the Denso tape

 

The line relating to DTELS and not to use the PVC and put

Denso tape over self amalgamating, without the intermediate layer of insulating tape

 

This is totally alien to me  but I admit it hasn’t ever cum up in conversation even when doing aerial work with people from your industry

We only used self amalgamating, and PVC  

as  Denso tape is messy and  not good when not protected  from the people coming in contact with it   Re H&A  again

 

Best Regards Paul

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of alwyn.seeds1
Sent: 06 October 2019 08:33
To: UK Microwaves groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] Connecting coax in wet weather

 

Dear Paul,

 

Apologies; I did n’t realise you were also querying the H&S risks of Denso tape.

 

The safety sheet is attached.

 

The main issue is that Denso tape can cause a skin reaction; therefore gloves are supposed to be worn when applying it. Perhaps Mark could recommend suitable gloves, as I always seem to get the gloves stuck with the tape, lose patience and apply with bare hands, cleaning my hands asap afterwards. Various operators have discontinued the use of Denso tape on feeder joints, to avoid the risk.

 

Thanks Mark, for your detailed reply. To be clear, what I do not favour is self amalgamating tape covered with insulating tape only. Since you overwrap the insulating tape with Denso tape the objection does not apply.

 

DTELS, based on experience from a nationwide network of towers supporting emergency and government services, recommended Denso tape over self amalgamating, without the intermediate layer of insulating tape.

 

If anyone knows of a comparative study of sufficient scale to be meaningful, that would be interesting to see.

 

Regards,

 

Alwyn


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SynOptika Ltd.,
114 Beaufort Street,
London,
SW3 6BU,
England.

Tel.: +44 (0) 20 7376 4110


SynOptika Ltd., Registered in England and Wales: No. 04606737
Registered Office: 114 Beaufort Street, London, SW3 6BU, United Kingdom.
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Re: Connecting coax in wet weather

alwyn.seeds1
 

Dear Paul,

Apologies; I did n’t realise you were also querying the H&S risks of Denso tape.

The safety sheet is attached.

The main issue is that Denso tape can cause a skin reaction; therefore gloves are supposed to be worn when applying it. Perhaps Mark could recommend suitable gloves, as I always seem to get the gloves stuck with the tape, lose patience and apply with bare hands, cleaning my hands asap afterwards. Various operators have discontinued the use of Denso tape on feeder joints, to avoid the risk.

Thanks Mark, for your detailed reply. To be clear, what I do not favour is self amalgamating tape covered with insulating tape only. Since you overwrap the insulating tape with Denso tape the objection does not apply.

DTELS, based on experience from a nationwide network of towers supporting emergency and government services, recommended Denso tape over self amalgamating, without the intermediate layer of insulating tape.

If anyone knows of a comparative study of sufficient scale to be meaningful, that would be interesting to see.

Regards,

Alwyn

_____________________________________________________

Alwyn Seeds, Director
SynOptika Ltd.,
114 Beaufort Street,
London,
SW3 6BU,
England.

Tel.: +44 (0) 20 7376 4110


SynOptika Ltd., Registered in England and Wales: No. 04606737
Registered Office: 114 Beaufort Street, London, SW3 6BU, United Kingdom.
_____________________________________________________

Re: 122 GHz Chips - VK3VC kit detail

Tim, VK2XAX
 

Hi all,

For the benefit of all on this thread and those who may have missed the initial thread announcing this project, here is some detail...

In the UK, the point of contact for the bulk order is Roger Ray, G8CUB. In France the contact is Eric, F1GHB and Matej, OK1TEH is also organising a bulk order from his corner of the world.

All have placed large pre-orders for the parts with me. So far all the inquiry from the US has been by individuals rather than a group buy.

<soapbox>

The intent of the project is help get as many people on to 122GHz as possible and at a reasonable price. The cost of components for mm microwave activity can be rare and expensive so the more people we get interested in the kit the higher the potential to get it made cheaper.

With our bands under constant threat of commercial appropriation the statement" use it or lose it" is more relevant than ever so projects like this enable us to "use it" and by keeping the $ down, allows others to join in who might not have considered going to 122GHz because of the cost.

I was extremely appreciative of Andrew, VK3CV, for doing all the hard work and putting all the detail out there for anyone to pickup and run with, so I'm just trying to make that happen :)

</soapbox>

Following below is the form letter that I'm sending to most requests for information. This letter has morphed a bit as inquiries rolled in to add more info but the content is functionally the same.


----------------------------------form response-----------------------------------

Thank you for your interest in this project

All the documentation on the project can be found in this drop box..

https://tinyurl.com/yyqbyr7

Please read the complete article on construction that can be found in the drop box at this url, this is the same article that was published in DUBUS

https://tinyurl.com/y3gmm8bj

You should also read the assembly and operation document from the drop box at this URL...

https://tinyurl.com/y3pmjoua


What we are offering to provide is an assembled PCB, a bare board for you to build on and either of the horn feeds, the rest of the construction is up to you.
I expect the prices to come down once I go back to the manufacturer with the larger quantity since this pricing is based on a run of 10.

The pricing is in $USD, and it has to be because that's what all the manufacturers deal in.

I have Indicative pricing for the parts as follows.

Assembled and tested PCB : $204 USD

Bare PCB : $25USD

Chaparral style feed horn and coupler : $72 USD

Coupler on its own : $20USD

Conical Horn with integrated coupler : $110 USD

I expect that pricing to come down as more people put their hands up.

This does not include post and packing to you.

Let me know what quantity of what items you would like.

Funds, via PayPal, in USD, will only be required after I get the final quotes for manufacture. I'll seek those quotes in a few weeks to give the project info enough time to get around the planet and people to get back to me :)

Tentative manufacture times are 6 - 8 weeks from placement-of-order, to delivery to me. Then it will take me a week or so to organise the packing and shipping to everyone.

I'll also be creating a mailing list from those who have responded so that I can keep everyone updated simultaneously and I'll be updating everyone on the projects progress as we go.

regards

Tim




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Re: 122 GHz Chips

Paul G8KFW
 

Hi all

 

I have sent Don the Assembly and operation notes  Ver  1.03

 

Paul


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Bicknell
Sent: 05 October 2019 23:24
To: UKMicrowaves@groups.io
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] 122 GHz Chips

 

Dear sir

 

No it is not that you are out of luck It is a problem of logistics and Customs duty

We in the uk have to pay 4 % import duty and 20 % on top of the total bill

 

At approximately £200 each and 30 plus units the up front payment is about £6000 and this is a limiting factor

 

Regards the line You don’t intend to share this technology with the amateur radio community  this is untrue

I have been told the author of the Dubus article is more than happy to spared the information

 

Send me your E mail and I will send you a starter pack of information  

 

Regards Paul


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Hawbaker
Sent: 05 October 2019 22:52
To: Ukmicrowaves
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] 122 GHz Chips

 

So you are telling me that if I do not live in the UK, I am just out of luck?  You don’t intend to share this technology with the amateur radio community?

 

?

WA3RGQ



On Oct 3, 2019 at 2:47 PM, <Paul Bicknell> wrote:

Hi Don

 

We in the UK are making a UK order and the order should be finalised this week end so if you live in the UK  and want to be part of the 122 ghz party

Hear are the facts

 

The fully made up and tested PCB is $204 the bare board is $25 we currently have interest in the UK for 31 Made up PCB  and 6  blank boards 

 

So far the blank boards have been only ordered by people who have ordered 1 or 2 made up PCB’s

 

It is estimated that the delivery will be 6 to 8 weeks  

All the prices were estimated on an order of 10 so prices may reduce, all prices are subject to VAT and import duty at approximately 25%

 

Roger  G8CUB is coordinating  but failing that send me your contact details E mail / address/ phone number  and I will forward them on

 

The additional metal work will be dealt with separately but will require approximately £60 for a dish launcher  or a 21 db horn is also available

The  system will require a receiver  so we will coordinate  and decide on  a UK frequency later but it will be within the 144 to 146 Mhz  

FM TX will be  directly to the PCB

 

The current record for this set up is 50 Km

 

Best Regards Paul     or call 07719 208048

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Hawbaker
Sent: 03 October 2019 01:01
To: Ukmicrowaves
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] 122 GHz Chips

 

Where are these boards available?  I don’t see any messages.

 

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Re: 122 GHz Chips

Paul G8KFW
 

Dear sir

 

No it is not that you are out of luck It is a problem of logistics and Customs duty

We in the uk have to pay 4 % import duty and 20 % on top of the total bill

 

At approximately £200 each and 30 plus units the up front payment is about £6000 and this is a limiting factor

 

Regards the line You don’t intend to share this technology with the amateur radio community  this is untrue

I have been told the author of the Dubus article is more than happy to spared the information

 

Send me your E mail and I will send you a starter pack of information  

 

Regards Paul


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Hawbaker
Sent: 05 October 2019 22:52
To: Ukmicrowaves
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] 122 GHz Chips

 

So you are telling me that if I do not live in the UK, I am just out of luck?  You don’t intend to share this technology with the amateur radio community?

 

?

WA3RGQ




On Oct 3, 2019 at 2:47 PM, <Paul Bicknell> wrote:

Hi Don

 

We in the UK are making a UK order and the order should be finalised this week end so if you live in the UK  and want to be part of the 122 ghz party

Hear are the facts

 

The fully made up and tested PCB is $204 the bare board is $25 we currently have interest in the UK for 31 Made up PCB  and 6  blank boards 

 

So far the blank boards have been only ordered by people who have ordered 1 or 2 made up PCB’s

 

It is estimated that the delivery will be 6 to 8 weeks  

All the prices were estimated on an order of 10 so prices may reduce, all prices are subject to VAT and import duty at approximately 25%

 

Roger  G8CUB is coordinating  but failing that send me your contact details E mail / address/ phone number  and I will forward them on

 

The additional metal work will be dealt with separately but will require approximately £60 for a dish launcher  or a 21 db horn is also available

The  system will require a receiver  so we will coordinate  and decide on  a UK frequency later but it will be within the 144 to 146 Mhz  

FM TX will be  directly to the PCB

 

The current record for this set up is 50 Km

 

Best Regards Paul     or call 07719 208048

 


From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Hawbaker
Sent: 03 October 2019 01:01
To: Ukmicrowaves
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] 122 GHz Chips

 

Where are these boards available?  I don’t see any messages.

 

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Re: 122 GHz Chips

Tom GM8MJV
 

Don

Look back in the archives - the original thread was about 24th of last month.

This follows on from an article in Dubus (3/2019) explaining all the detail of the transverter by VK3CV.

Nothing to do with ‚ÄėLiving in UK‚Äô - some UK amateurs are getting an bulk order together and getting it FROM Australia. You can do the same if you you want a kit/completed unit.

 
Tom 
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On 5 Oct 2019, at 22:52, Don Hawbaker <donhawbaker@...> wrote:

So you are telling me that if I do not live in the UK, I am just out of luck?  You don’t intend to share this technology with the amateur radio community?

WA3RGQ


On Oct 3, 2019 at 2:47 PM, <Paul Bicknell> wrote:

Hi Don
 
We in the UK are making a UK order and the order should be finalised this week end so if you live in the UK  and want to be part of the 122 ghz party
Hear are the facts
 
The fully made up and tested PCB is $204 the bare board is $25 we currently have interest in the UK for 31 Made up PCB  and 6  blank boards 
 
So far the blank boards have been only ordered by people who have ordered 1 or 2 made up PCB’s
 
It is estimated that the delivery will be 6 to 8 weeks  
All the prices were estimated on an order of 10 so prices may reduce, all prices are subject to VAT and import duty at approximately 25%
 
Roger  G8CUB is coordinating  but failing that send me your contact details E mail / address/ phone number  and I will forward them on
 
The additional metal work will be dealt with separately but will require approximately £60 for a dish launcher  or a 21 db horn is also available
The  system will require a receiver  so we will coordinate  and decide on  a UK frequency later but it will be within the 144 to 146 Mhz  
FM TX will be  directly to the PCB
 
The current record for this set up is 50 Km
 
Best Regards Paul     or call 07719 208048
 

From: UKMicrowaves@groups.io [mailto:UKMicrowaves@groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Hawbaker
Sent: 03 October 2019 01:01
To: Ukmicrowaves
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] 122 GHz Chips
 
Where are these boards available?  I don’t see any messages.
 

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