Re: Distraction was re Limitation of Portable Operation

Michael Scott

Hi Robin

Many thanks for that information, Birmingham is a fascinating city. We once spent a week there with the Association for Industrial Archaeology, and also spent a week exploring the canal network.

Thanks also for the information on GW Metals, I thought I knew most of the metal distributors who were willing to deal with hobby purchasers from attending many model engineering shows, but haven't come across him before.

73, Mike.

On 09/11/2020 18:31, Robin Szemeti - G1YFG wrote:
Hi Michael,

They are indeed still in business, although perhaps moved a few yards to the left of where you once saw them,  and are now in the old chapel at the end of the row.  You can still find an assortment of scrap, and a vast array of specialist brass, bronze and copper.

I use a chap in Worcester ( GW Metals and Tools) who is an absolutely lovely chap to deal with and will procure whatever you want from Keatley and keeps a good stock of the various specialist stuff like copper foils, brass meshes etc.

There is an absolutely fascinating history to the old building Keatley were in,  which I came across through my other hobby of shooting. As you are no doubt aware, they are located close to Birmingham's gun district,  and the building was once the home of the Abingdon Gun Works, makers of the "Swinburn-Henry" rifle, a close relative of the Martini-Henry,  and amongst other things the AKD brand of motorcycles and the famous "King Dick" brand of spanners.

This image from 1876 shows the building, which is still very recognisable today. Keatley's were in the left hand archway.


On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 12:37, Michael Scott via <> wrote:

Hi Robin

Interested to hear you mention John Keatley metals, and pleased to hear they are still in business. I used to visit them once or twice a year to buy ali sheet and have a rummage through their off cuts box. Also, they are one of the few firms which still sell tinplate of a similar gauge to the Schubert boxes.

73, Mike, G3LYP.

On 07/11/2020 18:59, Robin Szemeti - G1YFG wrote:
On a more positive note ...  I have finally managed to get my hands on a slab of copper for those people that wanted a heat spreader for their LDMOS board.

On a vaguely virus-related note it took a while as the supplier I use (John Keatley Metals) does not ship by post, and I did not want to travel into the seething metropolis of Birmingham. Fortunately, he has a local chap who makes occasional visits and I collect from Worcester, but with the virus, he was not travelling there so often either.

Anyhoo ... as of yesterday, I have a nice slab of 1/4" by 4" copper that I shall endeavour to mill tomorrow.

I also succumbed to a slight non-microwave temptation in the form of another LDMOS device ... this time a 65V 1800W device for 2m ...  

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 at 18:27, Kevin Wheatley <kevin.m0khz@...> wrote:
Long time lurker, totally agree with Clint. 
Now back in ‘background mode’ soaking up information 😉

Kevin -M0KHZ
Formally- G6JNA

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 at 18:08, Clint Sharp <cjaysharp@...> wrote:
Lost two family members to this virus, another recovered but still has breathing problems months later. I'm aghast at the utterly selfish attempts to find loopholes. 

Now can we get this back onto radio please? 

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, 17:45 Paul Randall G3NJV, <paulfrandall@...> wrote:

I completely agree with the points Robin makes. I may not like it but “stay at home” is pretty clear and “support your committee” is pretty basic.


If enough people rationalise “its OK for me”, the lockdown becomes ineffective and pointless, simply prolonging the agony.






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From: Robin Szemeti - G1YFG
Sent: 07 November 2020 16:10
Subject: Re: [UKMicrowaves] Limitation of Portable Operation in the UKuG Low Band Contest 15th November 2020


Regardless of the exact wording of the legislation or guidance, the spirit and overall intention is clear.  


I would also suggest that since the contest committee have been handed the poison chalice of negotiating their way through this minefield and balancing what is legal with what is sensible and what is going to appear responsible ... that we support them in their decisions. I would not want to be the one doing this particular job, as I should imagine whatever they decide, a good number of people will be unhappy with the decision for some reason. 


For that reason alone, I think the right thing to do is to simply support the decision.   I have no problem with robust discussion prior to the ruling, but I think if we are going to ask people to volunteer and run a committee, then we have to offer them our full support in their efforts.



On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 at 15:50, alwyn.seeds1 <a.seeds@...> wrote:

Dear Robin,


Actually, the legislation (SI 2020 No. 1200) does not include the wording you quote.


I think you are referring to the non-statutory guidance, which changes frequently without Parliamentary scrutiny or approval.




Alwyn G8DOH




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