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Future of Theosophy in the world

M K Ramadoss
 

Membership in Theosophical Society is shrinking world wide. There is no lack of money to help spread theosophy.
This issue is never discussed in conferences or conventions.
When every Eastern oriented spiritual enterprise is spreading around the world, shrinkage of theosophists should be of concern to all.
A new great stumbling block has been discovered even though it was before us all the time.
All the leaders are members of Esoteric Section and very secret Egyptian Rite. The interlocking between TS and ES and ER is well known and needs to be carefully looked at.
India and many third world countries were former colonies of European Powers. Men and women of the third world countries have not forgotten the colonialists.
The Esoteric Section requires its members to personally pledge to its Head. The current Head is a White woman from Australia. Almost all the leaders and who-is-who in theosophy are personally pledged to the Head.
Prospective members from the third world countries will be shocked when they find out the pledging of leaders since they cannot forget former colonialists from Europe. Why would they join TS?
Also for prospective black members from USA, the idea of personally pledging to a White woman from Australia will never be acceptable and leaders pledging will be seen as a not acceptable.  And today with transparency due to Internet, this truth cannot be hidden.
In USA, the additional complicating factor is the lack of black members. Theosophy has not spread to black population in 145 years. This problem has never been openly addressed and we have not seen any plans about how theosophy is going to be taken to black community.
Further complicating factor is the practice of (secretly) kicking out members, some of them very long time dedicated volunteers. Even churches have an open transparent process for excommunication. This makes churches seen as liberal in their policy.
All of the above is makes it very difficult for you or me to spread theosophy to our friends and neighbors.
It is time that the structural problems are addressed and fixed so that the common man will see theosophy in its true divine nature and find it very inviting.
It looks like time has come for theosophists like you and me to take to Internet Social Forums and spread it to the common man and woman. It does not require any money. Requires only creativity and personal sacrifice of time.
Suffering world badly needs theosophy in its true Universal Brotherhood which can be easily understood by all.
Peace


THE ORIGINS & NATURE OF THOUGHTS. (Edited)

Ramu
 

THE ORIGINS & NATURE OF THOUGHTS. (Edited)
 
Sources of one’s thoughts are hidden.
 
There Is No Such Thing as Conscious Thought.
 
We are not directly aware of our thoughts, just as we are not directly aware of the thoughts of other people. But everyone has direct awareness of their own thoughts.
 
The actual workings of our mind, remain unconscious. All that we are aware of are their products. And my access to your mind, when I listen to you speak, is not different in any fundamental way from my access to my own mind when I am aware of my own inner speech. The same sorts of interpretive processes still have to take place.
 
There are thoughts that seem to have their origins in the (working) memories formed (in the brain?) through sensory experiences. There are thoughts that include only non-sensory mental attitudes, such as judgments, decisions, intentions and goals. These are amodal, abstract events, meaning that they are not sensory experiences and are not tied to sensory experiences. Such thoughts never figure in working memory.
 
Thought is brain's way of reacting to, and dealing with, sensory inputs. Recalling memories also may give rise to thoughts. The first thought may come on its own but perpetuation of thoughts is not something that cannot be prevented. Perpetuation of thoughts seems to a be a just one of the many habits of the brain and like many other habits, perpetuation of thoughts as a habit can be broken. Most thoughts are distressing. After all, (the ultimate) yoga is inhibition of perpetuation of thoughts. YOGA CHITTA VRITTHI NIRODAH. We need freedom from thoughts more than freedom of thoughts. 
 
More at:
 
 


Re: Kern Trust savior of American Section ?

M K Ramadoss
 

Let me add a few words about Kern Trust -

Kern Trust is a tax exempt trust and hence there is considerable transparency. The objectives of the trust is in public domain. It is to spread theosophy in USA primarily thru Theosophical Society in America. In the past, it had two co trustees – Bank (Northern Trust) and John Kern, son of founder of Trust. John died sometime ago. Now the Bank is the sole trustee and a bank officer is responsible for the administration of the trust. Looks like the officer is not a member of TS or ES. Hence we can expect some objectivity. Bank has fiduciary responsibility to see that its funds are expended to support Universal Brotherhood – theosophy and not to give a blank check to Theosophical Society in America.


In addition, any citizen of USA can send in their concerns and complaints to the Internal Revenue Service about tax exempt organizations and if sufficient complaints are received, IRS will look into them. If the organizations act in a discriminatory manner, IRS can cancel their tax exempt status.


I am confident that any requests to the Bank Trustee would be taken seriously since they have a fiduciary duty and will be responsible in their administration of the Trust.





On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 12:04 PM Ramu <peacebliss@...> wrote:
Unless we see the terms of the agreement between the donor and the donee, we cannot come to any conclusion. Many donations have quid pro quo arrangements. Unless the donor here is a staunch believer of Theosophy and is its follower, for which we have seen no evidences, the donations may have other motives.

Ramu


Re: Kern Trust savior of American Section ?

Ramu
 

Unless we see the terms of the agreement between the donor and the donee, we cannot come to any conclusion. Many donations have quid pro quo arrangements. Unless the donor here is a staunch believer of Theosophy and is its follower, for which we have seen no evidences, the donations may have other motives.

Ramu


Kern Trust savior of American Section ?

M K Ramadoss
 

MONEY TALKS

Kern Trust is the savior of American Theosophy which faces a critical future due to lack of diversity. There are almost Zero black members after 145 years. Unless Theosophy is taken to the black community, theosophy in America faces uncertain future. Already the drop in membership from 8000 to less than 4000 in 40 years is a red flag needing action,

Kern Foundation grants can be contingent upon Theosophical Society in America taking theosophy to black community.

Kern Trustee can ask for specific projects with grants tied to meeting targets

Objective of Kern Trust is to spread theosophy in USA with no discrimination - Universal Brotherhood is all encompassing and are not just words to be repeated.

Trus has a duty to ensure its money ends up used in non discriminatory manner

You should contact the Trust with your concerns and request it to push for use its funds to spread theosophy to the Blacks and other minorities.

Loss of money will get the attention of the leadership and spur action.

Peace






Afro American Theosophists in USA

M K Ramadoss
 


Unless you have lived in USA for many years & witnessed first hand the injustice Blacks and minorities have faced and are facing, you cannot understand the seriousness of the issue. American public have become sensitized to the issue.

Theosophy was launched for all. The Wise Men behind the movement made it clear that it has to reach the common man. The foundation is very simple and anyone can understand - Universal Brotherhood. It will bring peace and happiness for all.

Unfortunately Theosophy has not spread to Blacks in USA in 145 yrs in the land where theosophy was launched in 1875.

American theosophy leaders are responsible. No one else can be blamed.

The issue is critical to future of theosophy in USA.


- Theosophists in Europe cannot understand

- Theosophists in India cannot understand

- Theosophists in South America cannot understand

- Theosophists in Asia cannot understand

It's now on the lap of American Theosophical leaders.

Status quo is not acceptable. 


Time for urgent action


Theosophists in USA need to raise and demand action from their leaders. If they don't respond, it is time to find replacements who will save theosophy in USA.

PEACE


Re: True Facts Needed about membership in USA

M K Ramadoss
 

There is also another great hurdle to help blacks to join Theosophical Society in America and spread theosophy to the black community.
Everyone knows that almost all theosophical leaders are members of the Esoteric Section.
As members, they are personally pledged to the Head of ES, who is a White woman living in Australia.
When a prospective black man or woman learns about this, they are not going to join the TS.
Anyone has any ideas to address this serious issue?

M K Ramadoss


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On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:58 PM M K Ramadoss <mkr777@...> wrote:
Thanks for your response

American Section has very serious problems.
Its membership is declining. It was 8000 forty years ago and now it is 3370. This is less than what it was in 1900.
Kern foundation is donating $1million+ annually and now Fetzer Trust ($600million) is donating undisclosed amounts. Cleveland lodge sends $50000 annually. There are well paid qualified scholars and professionals at the National Headquarter.

With all this there are very very very few afro american members. We dare American Section disclose the statistics.
Theosophy has not spread to the afro americans.
This is a significant segment of minority population in USA.
This is a very critical sensitive issue in USA. Only those who have lived long years in USA understand the sensitiveness. Theosophists outside USA will have a very difficult time to understand this issue.

So far none of the leaders have talked about it. Have not seen any plans to address it.

Unless this is addressed urgently,  Theosophical Society in America is going face difficulties since it is benefiting from american taxpayer money due its tax exempt status. TS is answerable to taxpaying public.

Truth is sometimes bitter.

But for Internet and independent forums such as this, we would not be discussing it.
If anyone has ideas how to solve the lack of diversity in USA theosophists, their ideas are welcome.
Need help. Silence is not an answer.
Peace

M K Ramadoss



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On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:40 PM Pavel Axentiev <eternaldelight100@...> wrote:
Why all this vitriol towards the American section?

With all due respect, I think by this constant barrage of emails you are undermining the unity of the Theosophical movement and, by certain standards, committing grave acts of misconduct by sowing discord in the Theosophical Society.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 8:55 AM Ramu <peacebliss@...> wrote:
Joe Biden calls for return to 'truth and transparency'. 
 
Will this inspire all TS leaders to start practicing Truth & Transparency- the most acute needs of the TS?


Re: True Facts Needed about membership in USA

M K Ramadoss
 

Thanks for your response

American Section has very serious problems.
Its membership is declining. It was 8000 forty years ago and now it is 3370. This is less than what it was in 1900.
Kern foundation is donating $1million+ annually and now Fetzer Trust ($600million) is donating undisclosed amounts. Cleveland lodge sends $50000 annually. There are well paid qualified scholars and professionals at the National Headquarter.

With all this there are very very very few afro american members. We dare American Section disclose the statistics.
Theosophy has not spread to the afro americans.
This is a significant segment of minority population in USA.
This is a very critical sensitive issue in USA. Only those who have lived long years in USA understand the sensitiveness. Theosophists outside USA will have a very difficult time to understand this issue.

So far none of the leaders have talked about it. Have not seen any plans to address it.

Unless this is addressed urgently,  Theosophical Society in America is going face difficulties since it is benefiting from american taxpayer money due its tax exempt status. TS is answerable to taxpaying public.

Truth is sometimes bitter.

But for Internet and independent forums such as this, we would not be discussing it.
If anyone has ideas how to solve the lack of diversity in USA theosophists, their ideas are welcome.
Need help. Silence is not an answer.
Peace

M K Ramadoss



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On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:40 PM Pavel Axentiev <eternaldelight100@...> wrote:
Why all this vitriol towards the American section?

With all due respect, I think by this constant barrage of emails you are undermining the unity of the Theosophical movement and, by certain standards, committing grave acts of misconduct by sowing discord in the Theosophical Society.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 8:55 AM Ramu <peacebliss@...> wrote:
Joe Biden calls for return to 'truth and transparency'. 
 
Will this inspire all TS leaders to start practicing Truth & Transparency- the most acute needs of the TS?


Re: True Facts Needed about membership in USA

Pavel Axentiev
 

Why all this vitriol towards the American section?

With all due respect, I think by this constant barrage of emails you are undermining the unity of the Theosophical movement and, by certain standards, committing grave acts of misconduct by sowing discord in the Theosophical Society.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 8:55 AM Ramu <peacebliss@...> wrote:
Joe Biden calls for return to 'truth and transparency'. 
 
Will this inspire all TS leaders to start practicing Truth & Transparency- the most acute needs of the TS?


Re: DIVERSITY IN AMERICAN THEOSOPHISTS

Ramanujachary nallanchakravarti
 

Theosophy for the masses is the theme worked out by HPB. If we don't enthuse blacks into the streamline we will not be fulfilling our job. UBH is not an armchair idea but a programmable endeavor. 



Literature is for Portrayal of Philosophic Ideas.



Dr N C Ramanujachary(Srivirinchi)
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From: "M K Ramadoss" <mkr777@...>
Sent: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:40:25 GMT+0530
To: theosophy@groups.io
Subject: [theosophy] DIVERSITY IN AMERICAN THEOSOPHISTS

DIVERSITY IN AMERICAN THEOSOPHISTS

Anyone visiting a conference or convention in USA will be shocked to see lack of Black members. After 145 years in the land where Theosophy was launched such a shocking status need to be fixed

Theosophists have a greater problem in explaining what theosophy is and how Theosophical Society operates

With Internet, everything is transparent

In USA, there are many successful Black men and women in all fields – business, spiritual, arts, science, engineering, medicine, sports, entertainment etc

It is common knowledge that all theosophical leaders and ‘who is who’ in American Theosophy are members of (secret) Esoteric Section

They are all personally pledged to the Head of ES who is a White woman living in Australia

No black man or woman would join a movement where leaders are personally pledged to a White woman

It is upto the leaders and theosophists to see this serious issue preventing spread of theosophy to Blacks

Peace




DIVERSITY IN AMERICAN THEOSOPHISTS

M K Ramadoss
 

DIVERSITY IN AMERICAN THEOSOPHISTS

Anyone visiting a conference or convention in USA will be shocked to see lack of Black members. After 145 years in the land where Theosophy was launched such a shocking status need to be fixed

Theosophists have a greater problem in explaining what theosophy is and how Theosophical Society operates

With Internet, everything is transparent

In USA, there are many successful Black men and women in all fields – business, spiritual, arts, science, engineering, medicine, sports, entertainment etc

It is common knowledge that all theosophical leaders and ‘who is who’ in American Theosophy are members of (secret) Esoteric Section

They are all personally pledged to the Head of ES who is a White woman living in Australia

No black man or woman would join a movement where leaders are personally pledged to a White woman

It is upto the leaders and theosophists to see this serious issue preventing spread of theosophy to Blacks

Peace



Will we see Truth & Transparency in the TS ?

Ramu
 

Joe Biden calls for return to 'truth and transparency'. 

Will this inspire TS leaders to start practicing Truth & Transparency- the most acute needs of the TS. 

 
 


School in American Section Headquarters

M K Ramadoss
 

A school is operating in the Wheaton Headquarters of the American Section for several years.
Does anyone know the theosophical purpose of the school?
We have seen some Xmas greeting videos of the pretty children from the school. There are no black children in them.
Does anyone know how many children are there in the school and of which how many are Black?
This is of great importance because the school should display diversity of USA which is a melting pot of immigrants from all parts of the world.
As an organization founded on Brotherhood with no discrimination, the school diversity sends a message to the world.
American Section's lack of diversity is a very serious issue and should be urgently addressed and programs and plans developed to deal with it.
Status quo can only bring trouble since as tax exempt organization its life blood is taxpayer supported public money.
Let us wait and see what our well paid great scholarly and professional leaders do to fix this great diversity issue.
Peace


Chelaship Committee

M K Ramadoss
 

Ross' book on ER reveals the committee which recommends candidates for chelaship. Though the info is from the days of CJ, Arundale and Sri Ram, more than likely the practice continues.

Many theosophists would be eager to find out the names of today's committee members so that we can all be generous, nice and reverential so that we are in their good books.
If anyone has information, please share it. We all can benefit and the committee would earn good Karma and even a lot of money.

Peace

M K Ramadoss


Sad & Shocking News from USA

M K Ramadoss
 

Just learnt that the American Section now has 3,370 members.

Four decades ago it was 8,000. The drop is more than 50%. Every Eastern philosophy and religion group has been growing in strength in USA. Such a drop is shocking as Kern Trust funds $1 million plus/yr & Fetzer ($500million) Trust is also funding & Cleveland Branch funds $75,000/yr plus generous donations from members. There is a large well paid very scholarly professional administration at the Headquarters. The drop is shocking in spite of the financial and professional support.

Additionally with all the preaching of Universal Brotherhood, equally shocking is lack of diversity with no black members.

Obviously American Section is on a wrong path and no one wants to talk about it. At this rate, future does not look good.

Public will soon view American Section as a private group practicing systemic discrimination.

It will hurt the good name of theosophy and you and me who practice Universal Brotherhood in our daily lives.

Anyone wants to defend the current status?

Sad Sad Sad

M K Ramadoss





Breaking News = American Section of TS

M K Ramadoss
 

BREAKING NEWS

American Section Kicked Out a member of 63 yrs standing!!!

A well known life time volunteer and non White!

Olcott was in a dilemma when in death bed to act against a single member - got Guru’s advise

Today’s salaried leaders have no hesitation

Great message to send to world!

Universal Brotherhood in practice!!!

What a pity? Even Gods cannot help today's leadership

What do you think of the future of Theosophical Society in America?

Peace




True Facts Needed about membership in USA

M K Ramadoss
 

One of the most troubling facts is the lack of diversity in membership of TS in America. There are very very few black (afro american) members. This has been the case since 1875.
Theosophy is greatly needed in USA and with right presentation can attract the masses.
The seriousness of lack of diversity can be understood only if facts are available.
There is no disclosure of the number of members in USA in -

Theosophical Society
Esoteric Section (this is no more secret and the interlocking is also no secret)
Egyptian Rite (the super secret invitation only group - a lot of info recently published)

Once we know the numbers, we can all see seriousness of the situation. Theosophy cannot be spread to the masses without addressing the minorities in USA who are growing each day. If theosophy is seen as a cult and appealing to only white men and women, soon there would be a public outcry and will hurt true theosophists (who are selfless volunteers and are not making a living from or enjoying theosophy money!) and what further problems will arise, we do not know. HPB once commented on the possibility of TS shutting down in USA and stated the TS will never die in India.

Lack of diversity is a very very critical issue. Hope the leaders wake up and come with a plan to take theosophy to the masses in USA.

Peace

MKR


Shrinking Theosophists in USA

M K Ramadoss
 

Shrinking Theosophists in USA

American theosophists today is half of what it was 40 yrs ago – Why?

Every spiritual organization in USA has grown

Kern Trust donates $1+ million yearly to spread theosophy in America. More money pours in from donations and bequests

Also shocking is lack of diversity and no one talks

Very hard to find a black theosophist in USA.  Try!

These raise a red flag

Theosophy is to help all with no discrimination. Take a look at early literature for the views of Wise Men behind theosophy.

Future of theosophy in USA is shocking

You and me can’t keep silent. Have to do something to wake up American Theosophists to the reality. If you sit down and shut up, theosophy will disappear from USA

Any creative ideas?


INTER LOCKINGBETWEEN TS AND ES (AND ER)?

M K Ramadoss
 

Students of theosophy, while spreading the message to prospects or talking to newbees, discuss the three objects and some of the organizational followers make a big issue of Freedom of Thought published one can find in all official publications. So far so good.

Internet has revolutionized the world. I has brought transparency and has in turn enforcing truthfulness. A theosophist who believes in “There is No Religion Higher Than Truth,” has to be truthful with theosophical prospects and newbees. Truthfulness and transparency are key to one’s credibility.

So missionaries of theosophy today cannot hide truth. For a long time, the interlocking nature of theosophical society and Esoteric Section and ultra secret Egyptian Rite was successfully kept secret from newbees. ER was kept secret from even Esoteric Section members. Today, they are no longer secret. You can find many books dealing with them. Another key issue that is troublesome in today’s transparent free world is the fact that ES and ER members pledge personal loyalty to a woman. This makes one recall various cults like Heaven’s Gate, Heaven’s Gate etc.

Additional complications we have deal with kicking out members in secret. Even christian churches kicks out members in public and is reformatory.

Another big problem in dealing with prospective members in the USA is lack of diversity. There are very very few black members and till today no one has explained why this is so in an organization based on Universal Brotherhood.

Hitler’s time, Blavatsky’s teachings on Races was misused and misinterpreted. Theosophical forecast is the upcoming new type of humanity - 6th Root Race. Race is a very sensitive topic in USA. Lack of diversity can be seen as theosophists are working on creating the new 6th Root Race out of white men and women.

Theosophical leaders have a very tough job ahead. If the issues discussed are not addressed and dealt with, how are you going to spread theosophy with no distinction? If status quo is continued, theosophists will disappear from USA in our life times.

The only hope is you and me with the tools of social forums can spread the Divine Truths to all without the money from organizations, Time has come for you to choose status quo with no future or be an activist missionary spreading theosophy to the suffering world.

Peace



A DEMYSTIFIED KEY UPANISADIC MESSAGE WITH GREAT PRACTICAL WISDOM.

Ramu
 

A DEMYSTIFIED KEY UPANISADIC MESSAGE WITH GREAT PRACTICAL WISDOM.
 
(With an apt analogy for managing the course of life's journey, with a perfect higherarchy of self-control and command.) 
 
Much of Vedantic philosophy is concerned with the relationship of the 'subject-Self' (Aatman-Consciousness) with the perceptual and conceptual objects of that subject-self.
 
The Upanisadic analogy for one's life's course is a journey in a chariot driven by a charioteer. 
 
How does one journey in a chariot safely through the hurdles, risks and dangers of long distance travel and the possible charioteer's wrongdoings? Or how does the man undertake the inevitable journey through life's course in the most efficacious manner which necessarily calls for the most responsible conduct and discrimination through the journey because of the many pitfalls and distractions on the way and temptations to go the wrong way.
 
The subject-Self (Aatman-Consciousness) is the traveller. (Doesn't need much guessing.)
 
The body with its brain and their faculties make up the chariot.
 
Intelligence is the charioteer. 
 
The mind is the set of reins. 
 
The senses are the horses.
 
Desires, temptations and carelessness are the ups and downs and pitfalls making up the roads. 
 
When the traveller is careless, and lacking in discrimnation, he let's his intelligence be blinded and the charioteer holds the reins loosely or even lets go the reins, and the senses seize the opportunity and go wild and the chariot races out of control and the traveller is lost. 
 
But when the traveller, taking full responsibility for going in the right direction, has control on his faculties and resources and has the right focus without distractions, then there is control, proper instructions and guidance to the charioteer and the life's journey courses through to the right destination or state-of-being.

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