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Preventing SPAM from new members


 

Prior to the SPAMMER I accepted and approved as a member a few weeks ago
anyone who wanted to post a message to TekScopes had to be approved by me. I
read each of their pending messages to be sure they passed my "smell" test.
If they did, then I approved them as a member and unmoderated them at the
same time.
Unfortunately spammers are now getting better at hiding their intentions and
it is becoming harder to separate them from legitimate future members.
From this point forward I will no longer be un-moderating new members
automatically. I apologize in advance for any inconvenience this may cause
new members.
Thanks to the member who alerted me to that spammer he was immediately
banned, all of his posts were removed, and all of the posts by others in
response the topic(s) he initiated were removed.

Dennis Tillman W7pF


 

I didn't raise the point at the time, and 'm really not trying to tell you
"how to suck eggs": Did you check with the person involved? It is
possible that his email had been hi-jacked, and that he wasn't the spammer.

Why do I say this - it happened to me a long time ago to a different email
from the one I now use. Not much spam was sent and I was not (luckily)
banned anywhere.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis
Tillman W7pF
Sent: 04 August 2020 01:24
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: [TekScopes] Preventing SPAM from new members

Prior to the SPAMMER I accepted and approved as a member a few weeks ago
anyone who wanted to post a message to TekScopes had to be approved by me. I
read each of their pending messages to be sure they passed my "smell" test.
If they did, then I approved them as a member and unmoderated them at the
same time.
Unfortunately spammers are now getting better at hiding their intentions and
it is becoming harder to separate them from legitimate future members.
From this point forward I will no longer be un-moderating new members
automatically. I apologize in advance for any inconvenience this may cause
new members.
Thanks to the member who alerted me to that spammer he was immediately
banned, all of his posts were removed, and all of the posts by others in
response the topic(s) he initiated were removed.

Dennis Tillman W7pF


Carsten Bormann
 

(FYI, you were talking about “spam”. “SPAM”® is a brand for a delicious, inexpensive precooked canned meat product, held by Hormel Foods Corporation.

Thank you for listening to this Public Service Announcement.
We now return you to the regular program.)

Grüße, Carsten


Colin Herbert
 

As far as I remember (I was only born in 1946, though) that Spam was sent to the UK in the "Lease/Lend" agreement in order to give the hungry British some kind of meat to sustain themselves. The name was a concatenation of "Spiced Ham" and it came (and still does) in cans, so kept for a long while before being opened.
I don't recall it being associated with oscilloscopes, though.
Colin (Child of hungry wartime Brit parents).

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Carsten Bormann
Sent: 04 August 2020 09:53
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Preventing SPAM from new members

(FYI, you were talking about “spam”. “SPAM”® is a brand for a delicious, inexpensive precooked canned meat product, held by Hormel Foods Corporation.

Thank you for listening to this Public Service Announcement.
We now return you to the regular program.)

Grüße, Carsten


Carsten Bormann
 

On 2020-08-04, at 11:47, Colin Herbert via groups.io <colingherbert=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I don't recall it being associated with oscilloscopes, though.
I’m sure you could warm up yours in/on top of some of the Tek scopes.

(If you really care, the Wikipedia article is great:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(food)
And, yes, Lend-Lease figures there as well.)

A global mailing list is a great place to turn bad habits (such as writing SPAM, WEB [aargh], … (*)) into a pandemic, so you need to quarantine them quickly.

Grüße, Carsten

(*) My next PSA will probably be about the abuse and misspelling of quantities and units…


Stephen
 

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 10:47 PM, Colin Herbert wrote:


As far as I remember (I was only born in 1946, though)
I was only born 20 years later, in 1966, but I do remember the US Corned Beef rations we could still buy (new) surplus of, from the grocery store. Is this what you’re referring to?


Carsten Bormann
 

On 2020-08-04, at 11:57, Stephen <stephen.nabet@...> wrote:

I was only born 20 years later, in 1966, but I do remember the US Corned Beef rations we could still buy (new) surplus of, from the grocery store. Is this what you’re referring to?
I plead GUILTY AS CHARGED (yes, all upper-case).

Sorry for bringing this (admittedly interesting) subject up.
This thread was about “Preventing [email] spam”, not finding variants of SPAM.
Please…

(There needs to be a Tekscopes2 where we can continue these off-topic (*) threads…)

Grüße, Carsten

(*) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Reserve


ArtekManuals <manuals@...>
 

There is a TekScopes2 already and they are more agreeable to having off topic conversations. I for one would appreciate it if you took this over there

Log into Groups.IO and search on TEKSCOPES 2
Dave
ArtekManuals

On 8/4/2020 6:03 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
On 2020-08-04, at 11:57, Stephen <stephen.nabet@...> wrote:
I was only born 20 years later, in 1966, but I do remember the US Corned Beef rations we could still buy (new) surplus of, from the grocery store. Is this what you’re referring to?
I plead GUILTY AS CHARGED (yes, all upper-case).

Sorry for bringing this (admittedly interesting) subject up.
This thread was about “Preventing [email] spam”, not finding variants of SPAM.
Please…

(There needs to be a Tekscopes2 where we can continue these off-topic (*) threads…)

Grüße, Carsten

(*) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Reserve


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Vince Vielhaber
 

These mask guys have been doing this on other groups. Dennis is 100% correct in his new policy. They ask some question, usually a how-to, and get approved. Then after they're approved here it comes. I've seen them in machining groups asking the same questions but using terms that are more apropos to the group.

Vince - K8ZW.

On 08/04/2020 04:37 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:
I didn't raise the point at the time, and 'm really not trying to tell you
"how to suck eggs": Did you check with the person involved? It is
possible that his email had been hi-jacked, and that he wasn't the spammer.

Why do I say this - it happened to me a long time ago to a different email
from the one I now use. Not much spam was sent and I was not (luckily)
banned anywhere.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis
Tillman W7pF
Sent: 04 August 2020 01:24
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: [TekScopes] Preventing SPAM from new members

Prior to the SPAMMER I accepted and approved as a member a few weeks ago
anyone who wanted to post a message to TekScopes had to be approved by me. I
read each of their pending messages to be sure they passed my "smell" test.
If they did, then I approved them as a member and unmoderated them at the
same time.
Unfortunately spammers are now getting better at hiding their intentions and
it is becoming harder to separate them from legitimate future members.
From this point forward I will no longer be un-moderating new members
automatically. I apologize in advance for any inconvenience this may cause
new members.
Thanks to the member who alerted me to that spammer he was immediately
banned, all of his posts were removed, and all of the posts by others in
response the topic(s) he initiated were removed.

Dennis Tillman W7pF




Tom Gardner
 

The occasional spam doesn't bother me, so I'd encourage Dennis (et al?) to choose whatever mechanism is least work for themselves.

It isn't just mask guys; electronic components as well :(  I've seen them ask questions with appropriate terms and sentences, but with paragraphs that indicate either complete beginner or not an English speaker.

Their followups to responses are either non-existent or complete rubbish.

On 04/08/20 15:01, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
These mask guys have been doing this on other groups.  Dennis is 100% correct in his new policy.  They ask some question, usually a how-to, and get approved.  Then after they're approved here it comes.  I've seen them in machining groups asking the same questions but using terms that are more apropos to the group.

Vince - K8ZW.


On 08/04/2020 04:37 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:
I didn't raise the point at the time, and 'm really not trying to tell you
"how to suck eggs":   Did you check with the person involved? It is
possible that his email had been hi-jacked, and that he wasn't the spammer.

Why do I say this - it happened to me a long time ago to a different email
from the one I now use.   Not much spam was sent and I was not (luckily)
banned anywhere.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis
Tillman W7pF
Sent: 04 August 2020 01:24
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: [TekScopes] Preventing SPAM from new members

Prior to the SPAMMER I accepted and approved as a member a few weeks ago
anyone who wanted to post a message to TekScopes had to be approved by me. I
read each of their pending messages to be sure they passed my "smell" test.
If they did, then I approved them as a member and unmoderated them at the
same time.
Unfortunately spammers are now getting better at hiding their intentions and
it is becoming harder to separate them from legitimate future members.
From this point forward I will no longer be un-moderating new members
automatically. I apologize in advance for any inconvenience this may cause
new members.
Thanks to the member who alerted me to that spammer he was immediately
banned, all of his posts were removed, and all of the posts by others in
response the topic(s) he initiated were removed.

Dennis Tillman W7pF





 

Hi David,
I think the answer is clear from what happened after I banned him, or more
correctly as you pointed out after I banned the email-ID associated with the
spam.

Nothing happened!

On the other hand if this email-ID was from someone whose email had been
hacked he knows how to get in touch with me through the home page of the
TekScopes web site to explain the situation.

I would have restored his membership the best way possible under a new email
address, or, after he protected his existing email address from further
hacks.

I think the fact that I never heard from him is a pretty clear indication he
was a spammer.

Dennis Tillman W7pf

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of David C.
Partridge
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 1:38 AM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Preventing SPAM from new members

I didn't raise the point at the time, and 'm really not trying to tell you
"how to suck eggs": Did you check with the person involved? It is
possible that his email had been hi-jacked, and that he wasn't the spammer.

Why do I say this - it happened to me a long time ago to a different email
from the one I now use. Not much spam was sent and I was not (luckily)
banned anywhere.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis
Tillman W7pF
Sent: 04 August 2020 01:24
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: [TekScopes] Preventing SPAM from new members

Prior to the SPAMMER I accepted and approved as a member a few weeks ago
anyone who wanted to post a message to TekScopes had to be approved by me. I
read each of their pending messages to be sure they passed my "smell" test.
If they did, then I approved them as a member and unmoderated them at the
same time.
Unfortunately spammers are now getting better at hiding their intentions and
it is becoming harder to separate them from legitimate future members.
From this point forward I will no longer be un-moderating new members
automatically. I apologize in advance for any inconvenience this may cause
new members.
Thanks to the member who alerted me to that spammer he was immediately
banned, all of his posts were removed, and all of the posts by others in
response the topic(s) he initiated were removed.

Dennis Tillman W7pF







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Dennis Tillman W7pF
TekScopes Moderator


Michael A. Terrell
 

Shoulder of Pork And ham.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 4:52 AM Carsten Bormann <cabocabo@...> wrote:

(FYI, you were talking about “spam”. “SPAM”® is a brand for a delicious,
inexpensive precooked canned meat product, held by Hormel Foods Corporation.

Thank you for listening to this Public Service Announcement.
We now return you to the regular program.)

Grüße, Carsten