Fan collet for the 2465


EricJ
 

Just to clarify, not my drawing. It was submitted to the group years back by another member of the group, don't remember who. --EricSent from my Galaxy

-------- Original message --------From: gkricorissian <gregg-k@...> Date: 9/15/22 8:59 AM (GMT-06:00) To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Fan collet for the 2465 Drawing came through fine Eric, and it is good to consolidate the information in one place.  I had a look at it, and it agrees pretty much with what I did.  Main differences are: - you eliminated the treaded, double-ended adapter and included that feature into your part.  My adapter was OK as found, and so I did not change the Tek design.  This also made the collet easier to fabricate. - though the overall length shown on your drawing looks to be longer than my numbers; it is the same, taking the adapter's flange into account - the angle of the taper is shown as 4 degrees, while I calculated 4.4 degrees from the measurements I took.  No big deal. - your adapter has 6 slots, which slightly reduces the surface area of the collet ... no big deal - your slots are longer, which may undermine the collet's concentricityLet's hope that the info we've posted is of help to TekFolk out there!


gkricorissian
 

Drawing came through fine Eric, and it is good to consolidate the information in one place. I had a look at it, and it agrees pretty much with what I did.
Main differences are:
- you eliminated the treaded, double-ended adapter and included that feature into your part. My adapter was OK as found, and so I did not change the Tek design. This also made the collet easier to fabricate.
- though the overall length shown on your drawing looks to be longer than my numbers; it is the same, taking the adapter's flange into account
- the angle of the taper is shown as 4 degrees, while I calculated 4.4 degrees from the measurements I took. No big deal.
- your adapter has 6 slots, which slightly reduces the surface area of the collet ... no big deal
- your slots are longer, which may undermine the collet's concentricity

Let's hope that the info we've posted is of help to TekFolk out there!


EricJ
 

Hmm, let's try that again. It would seem that my email client butchered the link a bit.

https://groups.io/g/TekScopes/filessearch?p=name%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0&q=Collet


EricJ
 

Hmm. I will see if I can find it. If not, I will re-upload it. --EricSent from my Galaxy

-------- Original message --------From: gkricorissian <gregg-k@...> Date: 9/14/22 8:49 AM (GMT-06:00) To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Fan collet for the 2465 Eric, thanks for following up.  I spent a bunch of time perusing the files section for the drawing you mention before giving up, and getting on with machining my own fan collet. I hope the pic I posted this morning helps others who are stuck with this same problem.


gkricorissian
 

Eric, thanks for following up.
I spent a bunch of time perusing the files section for the drawing you mention before giving up, and getting on with machining my own fan collet.
I hope the pic I posted this morning helps others who are stuck with this same problem.


EricJ
 

There is already a full blueprint available for this in the uploads section as I recall. I downloaded one from there done time ago with the intention of making a few to help some fellows out who might have needed one at the time, but I think they got it done themselves. --EricSent from my Galaxy

-------- Original message --------From: n4buq <n4buq@...> Date: 9/13/22 9:33 AM (GMT-06:00) To: tekscopes <TekScopes@groups.io> Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Fan collet for the 2465 Hi Gregg,You can upload pictures to the groups.io site for this group.I managed to repair my broken collet but a new one would be nice.  I wish I had a lathe and a milling machine...Welcome to the group!Thanks,Barry - N4BUQ----- Original Message -----> From: "gkricorissian" <gregg-k@...>> To: "tekscopes" <TekScopes@groups.io>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 9:15:34 AM> Subject: [TekScopes] Fan collet for the 2465> I mentioned in my intro that I had made a new collet to replace the one> which secures the fan impeller on my 2465, which is the same as those found> on many Tek scopes.  I tried sending a picture of the broken/black plastic> collet and the replacement I machined from 6061-T6 alloy bar, but the> Tekscopes site bounced it because attachments are not allowed.> > > > So, in a "second-best" effort, here are some notes about machining a new> collet from round bar stock:> > 1.  The double-ended metal adapter simply unscrews from the old plastic> collet, and can be re-used on your new collet> > 2.  The tapped hole in the new collet for that adapter is threaded 4-40> > 3.  The male thread at the other end of the adapter is 8-32, in case you> need a new nut for it.> > 4.  The new collet could be machined from alloy or brass bar depending on> what you have available.> > > > Dimensions of the new collet are simple:> > - over-all length:  0.730"> > - diameter of the cone (the large end): 0.344"> > - diameter of parallel shank (the small end): 0.291"> > - axial length of taper, from the large end of the cone to the start of the> parallel shank: 0.344"> > - angle of taper: 4.4 degrees> > - hole for motor shaft: 2mm> > - collet slots are not critical, but should be narrow as practical.  I used> a 1/32" slitting saw on mine.> > > > Feel free to ask for any clarifications you may need.> > .. Gregg> > > > > >


n4buq
 

Hi Gregg,

You can upload pictures to the groups.io site for this group.

I managed to repair my broken collet but a new one would be nice. I wish I had a lathe and a milling machine...

Welcome to the group!

Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ

----- Original Message -----
From: "gkricorissian" <gregg-k@...>
To: "tekscopes" <TekScopes@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 9:15:34 AM
Subject: [TekScopes] Fan collet for the 2465
I mentioned in my intro that I had made a new collet to replace the one
which secures the fan impeller on my 2465, which is the same as those found
on many Tek scopes. I tried sending a picture of the broken/black plastic
collet and the replacement I machined from 6061-T6 alloy bar, but the
Tekscopes site bounced it because attachments are not allowed.



So, in a "second-best" effort, here are some notes about machining a new
collet from round bar stock:

1. The double-ended metal adapter simply unscrews from the old plastic
collet, and can be re-used on your new collet

2. The tapped hole in the new collet for that adapter is threaded 4-40

3. The male thread at the other end of the adapter is 8-32, in case you
need a new nut for it.

4. The new collet could be machined from alloy or brass bar depending on
what you have available.



Dimensions of the new collet are simple:

- over-all length: 0.730"

- diameter of the cone (the large end): 0.344"

- diameter of parallel shank (the small end): 0.291"

- axial length of taper, from the large end of the cone to the start of the
parallel shank: 0.344"

- angle of taper: 4.4 degrees

- hole for motor shaft: 2mm

- collet slots are not critical, but should be narrow as practical. I used
a 1/32" slitting saw on mine.



Feel free to ask for any clarifications you may need.

.. Gregg






gkricorissian
 

I mentioned in my intro that I had made a new collet to replace the one
which secures the fan impeller on my 2465, which is the same as those found
on many Tek scopes. I tried sending a picture of the broken/black plastic
collet and the replacement I machined from 6061-T6 alloy bar, but the
Tekscopes site bounced it because attachments are not allowed.



So, in a "second-best" effort, here are some notes about machining a new
collet from round bar stock:

1. The double-ended metal adapter simply unscrews from the old plastic
collet, and can be re-used on your new collet

2. The tapped hole in the new collet for that adapter is threaded 4-40

3. The male thread at the other end of the adapter is 8-32, in case you
need a new nut for it.

4. The new collet could be machined from alloy or brass bar depending on
what you have available.



Dimensions of the new collet are simple:

- over-all length: 0.730"

- diameter of the cone (the large end): 0.344"

- diameter of parallel shank (the small end): 0.291"

- axial length of taper, from the large end of the cone to the start of the
parallel shank: 0.344"

- angle of taper: 4.4 degrees

- hole for motor shaft: 2mm

- collet slots are not critical, but should be narrow as practical. I used
a 1/32" slitting saw on mine.



Feel free to ask for any clarifications you may need.

.. Gregg