FW: [TekScopes] Another interesting Tektronix web site


teamlarryohio
 

Been far too long, but the ones I used were the same type generally as the fan mounts. Otoh, McMaster has a huge variety of hardware bits.
G'luck!
-ls-


Dave Wise
 

Thanks for the suggestion, Renee, I might be able to use a stack of them. I’m aiming for something anyone anywhere can get cheaply anytime. That should cover the 3 other people in the world who still use a Type D or H ☺

Dave Wise

From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Renée via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 10:31 AM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: [TekScopes] Another interesting Tektronix web site

by your description try Grommet and bushings at Mouser..they come in
various sizes...it is what I have used for isolation.
Renée

On 6/20/21 10:10 AM, Mike Dinolfo wrote:
Don't know if they have shock mounts that will work for you, but I
recently came across shock mount-type items at mcmaster.com. Try
https://www.mcmaster.com/bumper-cushions/<https://www.mcmaster.com/bumper-cushions>

I'm not the first to suggest Mcmaster.com; other Tekscopes group members
have previously suggested Mcmaster as a source for bumpers, hardware,
raw materials, tools, etc. Good outfit to deal with (but I don't know
if they will ship outside of the US).

Mike Dinolfo N4MWP

On 6/20/21 11:30 AM, Dave Wise wrote:
Closeup photos available off-list.

I don’t know how to cast something hollow. Anyway, my goal is to
come up with something cheap and easy. Can you suggest phrases to
search for? “Shock mount” and “vibration isolator” mostly pick up
mike stands and heavy automotive/HVAC stuff.

The shape is a hollow ball with a flange at each end and a hole
through the axis. You squeeze the flanges through the mounting holes
in the chassis. With 348-007 (used in Type D and H from the 1950s,
now deteriorating) you finish up with screw-washers-nut through the
hole to prevent a big shock from tearing the cushion apart. 348-0087
(used in Type 1A6 and 1A7 from the 1960s and may outlive me) is a
different material, stiffer, and instead of a screw, it is secured
with a plug at each end. I think 348-0087 would fit in a D or H.

If I had access to the PISL (Purchased Item Source List microfilm
“window cards”), I could determine who Tek bought them from - if they
bought them - but they’re surely gone now anyway.

Dave Wise

From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Harvey White via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 7:38 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Another interesting Tektronix web site

Could you make a mold and cast some sort of rubber?

Harvey


On 6/19/2021 10:10 PM, Dave Wise wrote:
I performed this procedure on one of the chassis cushion mounts in
my Type D plugin. (Tek P/N 348-0007-00. 348-0087-00 might work too.)

No effect.

Must be a different rubber.

Unless someone has another idea, I will look at cushions made for RC
helicopter camera mounts.
This one caught my eye:

https://www.amazon.com/HONBAY-Vibration-Rubber-Fright-Controller/dp/B073LPTHCL/ref=pd_di_sccai_4/130-3441475-1604467<https://www.amazon.com/HONBAY-Vibration-Rubber-Fright-Controller/dp/B073LPTHCL/ref=pd_di_sccai_4/130-3441475-1604467>

HONBAY 24pcs RC Anti Vibration Rubber Balls for Fright Controller
Gimbal

On closer look, it's far from ideal. The parts are 13mm overall
height, 8mm overall diameter, 6mm hole diameter, approximately 7mm
chassis spacing.
The mounting holes in Type D are themselves 8mm diameter (5/16") so
the cushions will slip free unless the chassis and subchassis are
modified, perhaps by gluing down washers with 6mm ID.
Also the Type D chassis are spaced on approximately 10mm centers,
not 7mm, so glue the washer on the bottom side of the upper and the
top side of the lower.

I'll report results in a month or so.















Dave Wise
 

Thanks for the link, Mike. You made me look. The “Flanged Compression Springs” are similar to the original shape, but the smallest part is too big and heavy: 5/8-inch long with a 1-inch flange and 33 pounds per inch spring rate. The original is more like 3/8” long, 1/2” flange, and a couple pounds per inch rate. That’s more like you might see in e.g. an optical disk transport, that doesn’t seem to be M-C’s market.

I’m still looking at RC-copter camera mount balls. There seem to be about a half-dozen sizes, but it’s hard to get dimensions - sellers can’t comprehend using them for anything but their intended purpose. “Tektronix? What kind of quadcopter is that?” <facepalm>

Dave Wise

From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Dinolfo via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 10:11 AM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: [TekScopes] Another interesting Tektronix web site

Don't know if they have shock mounts that will work for you, but I
recently came across shock mount-type items at mcmaster.com. Try
https://www.mcmaster.com/bumper-cushions/<https://www.mcmaster.com/bumper-cushions>

I'm not the first to suggest Mcmaster.com; other Tekscopes group members
have previously suggested Mcmaster as a source for bumpers, hardware,
raw materials, tools, etc. Good outfit to deal with (but I don't know
if they will ship outside of the US).

Mike Dinolfo N4MWP

On 6/20/21 11:30 AM, Dave Wise wrote:
Closeup photos available off-list.

I don’t know how to cast something hollow. Anyway, my goal is to come up with something cheap and easy. Can you suggest phrases to search for? “Shock mount” and “vibration isolator” mostly pick up mike stands and heavy automotive/HVAC stuff.

The shape is a hollow ball with a flange at each end and a hole through the axis. You squeeze the flanges through the mounting holes in the chassis. With 348-007 (used in Type D and H from the 1950s, now deteriorating) you finish up with screw-washers-nut through the hole to prevent a big shock from tearing the cushion apart. 348-0087 (used in Type 1A6 and 1A7 from the 1960s and may outlive me) is a different material, stiffer, and instead of a screw, it is secured with a plug at each end. I think 348-0087 would fit in a D or H.

If I had access to the PISL (Purchased Item Source List microfilm “window cards”), I could determine who Tek bought them from - if they bought them - but they’re surely gone now anyway.

Dave Wise

From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Harvey White via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 7:38 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Another interesting Tektronix web site

Could you make a mold and cast some sort of rubber?

Harvey


On 6/19/2021 10:10 PM, Dave Wise wrote:
I performed this procedure on one of the chassis cushion mounts in my Type D plugin. (Tek P/N 348-0007-00. 348-0087-00 might work too.)

No effect.

Must be a different rubber.

Unless someone has another idea, I will look at cushions made for RC helicopter camera mounts.
This one caught my eye:

https://www.amazon.com/HONBAY-Vibration-Rubber-Fright-Controller/dp/B073LPTHCL/ref=pd_di_sccai_4/130-3441475-1604467<https://www.amazon.com/HONBAY-Vibration-Rubber-Fright-Controller/dp/B073LPTHCL/ref=pd_di_sccai_4/130-3441475-1604467>
HONBAY 24pcs RC Anti Vibration Rubber Balls for Fright Controller Gimbal

On closer look, it's far from ideal. The parts are 13mm overall height, 8mm overall diameter, 6mm hole diameter, approximately 7mm chassis spacing.
The mounting holes in Type D are themselves 8mm diameter (5/16") so the cushions will slip free unless the chassis and subchassis are modified, perhaps by gluing down washers with 6mm ID.
Also the Type D chassis are spaced on approximately 10mm centers, not 7mm, so glue the washer on the bottom side of the upper and the top side of the lower.

I'll report results in a month or so.











Renée
 

by your description try Grommet and bushings at Mouser..they come in various sizes...it is what I have used for isolation.
Renée

On 6/20/21 10:10 AM, Mike Dinolfo wrote:
Don't know if they have shock mounts that will work for you, but I
recently came across shock mount-type items at mcmaster.com.  Try
https://www.mcmaster.com/bumper-cushions/

I'm not the first to suggest Mcmaster.com; other Tekscopes group members
have previously suggested Mcmaster as a source for bumpers, hardware,
raw materials, tools, etc.  Good outfit to deal with (but I don't know
if they will ship outside of the US).

Mike Dinolfo N4MWP

On 6/20/21 11:30 AM, Dave Wise wrote:
Closeup photos available off-list.

I don’t know how to cast something hollow.  Anyway, my goal is to come up with something cheap and easy.  Can you suggest phrases to search for?  “Shock mount” and “vibration isolator” mostly pick up mike stands and heavy automotive/HVAC stuff.

The shape is a hollow ball with a flange at each end and a hole through the axis.  You squeeze the flanges through the mounting holes in the chassis.  With 348-007 (used in Type D and H from the 1950s, now deteriorating) you finish up with screw-washers-nut through the hole to prevent a big shock from tearing the cushion apart.  348-0087 (used in Type 1A6 and 1A7 from the 1960s and may outlive me) is a different material, stiffer, and instead of a screw, it is secured with a plug at each end.  I think 348-0087 would fit in a D or H.

If I had access to the PISL (Purchased Item Source List microfilm “window cards”), I could determine who Tek bought them from - if they bought them - but they’re surely gone now anyway.

Dave Wise

From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Harvey White via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 7:38 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Another interesting Tektronix web site

Could you make a mold and cast some sort of rubber?

Harvey


On 6/19/2021 10:10 PM, Dave Wise wrote:
I performed this procedure on one of the chassis cushion mounts in my Type D plugin. (Tek P/N 348-0007-00. 348-0087-00 might work too.)

No effect.

Must be a different rubber.

Unless someone has another idea, I will look at cushions made for RC helicopter camera mounts.
This one caught my eye:

https://www.amazon.com/HONBAY-Vibration-Rubber-Fright-Controller/dp/B073LPTHCL/ref=pd_di_sccai_4/130-3441475-1604467
HONBAY 24pcs RC Anti Vibration Rubber Balls for Fright Controller Gimbal

On closer look, it's far from ideal. The parts are 13mm overall height, 8mm overall diameter, 6mm hole diameter, approximately 7mm chassis spacing.
The mounting holes in Type D are themselves 8mm diameter (5/16") so the cushions will slip free unless the chassis and subchassis are modified, perhaps by gluing down washers with 6mm ID.
Also the Type D chassis are spaced on approximately 10mm centers, not 7mm, so glue the washer on the bottom side of the upper and the top side of the lower.

I'll report results in a month or so.














Dave Wise
 

I went through the catalog and didn’t see anything like these.

The McMaster shock mounts I’m familiar with are the right size and stiffness to replace the Tek 500-series fan mounts. The Type D/H subchassis cushions are much softer (hollow ball) and are flexible snap-in flange mount instead of stud or screw.

What part numbers did you use for your amps?

From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of teamlarryohio via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 10:03 AM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: [TekScopes] Another interesting Tektronix web site

Dave, has anyone suggested McMaster? That's where I found the shock mounts Ampeg used in several of their guiter / bass amps.
-ls-


 

Don't know if they have shock mounts that will work for you, but I
recently came across shock mount-type items at mcmaster.com.  Try
https://www.mcmaster.com/bumper-cushions/

I'm not the first to suggest Mcmaster.com; other Tekscopes group members
have previously suggested Mcmaster as a source for bumpers, hardware,
raw materials, tools, etc.  Good outfit to deal with (but I don't know
if they will ship outside of the US).

Mike Dinolfo N4MWP

On 6/20/21 11:30 AM, Dave Wise wrote:
Closeup photos available off-list.

I don’t know how to cast something hollow.  Anyway, my goal is to come up with something cheap and easy.  Can you suggest phrases to search for?  “Shock mount” and “vibration isolator” mostly pick up mike stands and heavy automotive/HVAC stuff.

The shape is a hollow ball with a flange at each end and a hole through the axis.  You squeeze the flanges through the mounting holes in the chassis.  With 348-007 (used in Type D and H from the 1950s, now deteriorating) you finish up with screw-washers-nut through the hole to prevent a big shock from tearing the cushion apart.  348-0087 (used in Type 1A6 and 1A7 from the 1960s and may outlive me) is a different material, stiffer, and instead of a screw, it is secured with a plug at each end.  I think 348-0087 would fit in a D or H.

If I had access to the PISL (Purchased Item Source List microfilm “window cards”), I could determine who Tek bought them from - if they bought them - but they’re surely gone now anyway.

Dave Wise

From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Harvey White via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 7:38 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Another interesting Tektronix web site

Could you make a mold and cast some sort of rubber?

Harvey


On 6/19/2021 10:10 PM, Dave Wise wrote:
I performed this procedure on one of the chassis cushion mounts in my Type D plugin. (Tek P/N 348-0007-00. 348-0087-00 might work too.)

No effect.

Must be a different rubber.

Unless someone has another idea, I will look at cushions made for RC helicopter camera mounts.
This one caught my eye:

https://www.amazon.com/HONBAY-Vibration-Rubber-Fright-Controller/dp/B073LPTHCL/ref=pd_di_sccai_4/130-3441475-1604467
HONBAY 24pcs RC Anti Vibration Rubber Balls for Fright Controller Gimbal

On closer look, it's far from ideal. The parts are 13mm overall height, 8mm overall diameter, 6mm hole diameter, approximately 7mm chassis spacing.
The mounting holes in Type D are themselves 8mm diameter (5/16") so the cushions will slip free unless the chassis and subchassis are modified, perhaps by gluing down washers with 6mm ID.
Also the Type D chassis are spaced on approximately 10mm centers, not 7mm, so glue the washer on the bottom side of the upper and the top side of the lower.

I'll report results in a month or so.










teamlarryohio
 

Dave, has anyone suggested McMaster? That's where I found the shock mounts Ampeg used in several of their guiter / bass amps.
-ls-


Dave Wise
 

Closeup photos available off-list.

I don’t know how to cast something hollow.  Anyway, my goal is to come up with something cheap and easy.  Can you suggest phrases to search for?  “Shock mount” and “vibration isolator” mostly pick up mike stands and heavy automotive/HVAC stuff.

The shape is a hollow ball with a flange at each end and a hole through the axis.  You squeeze the flanges through the mounting holes in the chassis.  With 348-007 (used in Type D and H from the 1950s, now deteriorating) you finish up with screw-washers-nut through the hole to prevent a big shock from tearing the cushion apart.  348-0087 (used in Type 1A6 and 1A7 from the 1960s and may outlive me) is a different material, stiffer, and instead of a screw, it is secured with a plug at each end.  I think 348-0087 would fit in a D or H.

If I had access to the PISL (Purchased Item Source List microfilm “window cards”), I could determine who Tek bought them from - if they bought them - but they’re surely gone now anyway.

Dave Wise

From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Harvey White via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 7:38 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Another interesting Tektronix web site

Could you make a mold and cast some sort of rubber?

Harvey


On 6/19/2021 10:10 PM, Dave Wise wrote:
I performed this procedure on one of the chassis cushion mounts in my Type D plugin. (Tek P/N 348-0007-00. 348-0087-00 might work too.)

No effect.

Must be a different rubber.

Unless someone has another idea, I will look at cushions made for RC helicopter camera mounts.
This one caught my eye:

https://www.amazon.com/HONBAY-Vibration-Rubber-Fright-Controller/dp/B073LPTHCL/ref=pd_di_sccai_4/130-3441475-1604467
HONBAY 24pcs RC Anti Vibration Rubber Balls for Fright Controller Gimbal

On closer look, it's far from ideal. The parts are 13mm overall height, 8mm overall diameter, 6mm hole diameter, approximately 7mm chassis spacing.
The mounting holes in Type D are themselves 8mm diameter (5/16") so the cushions will slip free unless the chassis and subchassis are modified, perhaps by gluing down washers with 6mm ID.
Also the Type D chassis are spaced on approximately 10mm centers, not 7mm, so glue the washer on the bottom side of the upper and the top side of the lower.

I'll report results in a month or so.