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Fellow Tekkies,
I've posted a couple of 7L series modules I have up on Ebay, specifically a (working) 7L5 and a (non-functional) 7L14. Here's a link if you're interested. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=98030-8803&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=bftbell&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200&_fosrp=1 With that out of the way -- I do have one question on the 7L14 unit. It had the weirdest serial number label I've ever seen, in the form of an uppercase B (Beaverton, I'm pretty sure) followed by what looks like a lower-case 'o' with a vertical slash through it, and ending in a numeric '4.' My gut says this means it could have been a prototype. Yes? No? Other? Thanks much! -- --- Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech dot com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)
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Dave Daniel
I need a 7L14 parts mule. Would your 7L14 be suitable, or is it just in need of minor repair?
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DaveD
On Nov 11, 2020, at 19:55, Bruce Lane <kyrrin@bluefeathertech.com> wrote:
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Dave Daniel
Also, where are you located?
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On Nov 11, 2020, at 19:59, Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@gmail.com> wrote:
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Dave Wise
Prototypes were referred to as "A phase" or "B phase", so your slashed 'o' is actually greek letter phi. You have B-phase prototype number four. B-phase units were built as if they were production, and if no problems cropped up, that's what went to production. I don't know whether the 7L14 development was troubled; your unit could be identical to production, or not.
Dave Wise ________________________________________ From: TekScopes@groups.io <TekScopes@groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Lane via groups.io <kyrrin=bluefeathertech.com@groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:55 PM To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: [TekScopes] Question, and shameless plug... Fellow Tekkies, I've posted a couple of 7L series modules I have up on Ebay, specifically a (working) 7L5 and a (non-functional) 7L14. Here's a link if you're interested. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=98030-8803&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=bftbell&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200&_fosrp=1 With that out of the way -- I do have one question on the 7L14 unit. It had the weirdest serial number label I've ever seen, in the form of an uppercase B (Beaverton, I'm pretty sure) followed by what looks like a lower-case 'o' with a vertical slash through it, and ending in a numeric '4.' My gut says this means it could have been a prototype. Yes? No? Other? Thanks much! -- --- Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech dot com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)
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Honestly? I don't know. When I tried to power it, it acted like it was
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coming on in that the LEDs and displays lit. However, I couldn't get a trace out of it AND I started to smell burning component in less than a minute. That's when I killed the power and relegated it to the 'Maybe Later' pile. Location-wise: Kent, WA. Southeast of Seattle.
On 11-Nov-20 17:00, Dave Daniel wrote:
Also, where are you located?On Nov 11, 2020, at 19:59, Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@gmail.com> wrote: --
--- Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech dot com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)
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Ke-Fong Lin
Hi Bruce,
I would be interested by the 7L5, especially at $150. However, the international shipping (I live in France) is crazy, over $500! Can you use ebay's international shipping program instead? It's reliable (never had a problem) and prices are reasonnable. Thank you. Best regards,
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I was unaware Ebay had their own international shipping aid. Can you
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point me to more details? I agree, half a kilobuck for shipping is insane! Thanks!
On 12-Nov-20 04:14, Ke-Fong Lin wrote:
Hi Bruce, --
--- Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech dot com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)
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Colin Herbert
The 7L5 looks interesting, but the shipping to the UK is eye-watering. I realise that it isn't your decision, but $537-plus - ouch!
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Colin.
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From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bruce Lane Sent: 12 November 2020 00:56 To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: [TekScopes] Question, and shameless plug... Fellow Tekkies, I've posted a couple of 7L series modules I have up on Ebay, specifically a (working) 7L5 and a (non-functional) 7L14. Here's a link if you're interested. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=98030-8803&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=bftbell&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200&_fosrp=1 With that out of the way -- I do have one question on the 7L14 unit. It had the weirdest serial number label I've ever seen, in the form of an uppercase B (Beaverton, I'm pretty sure) followed by what looks like a lower-case 'o' with a vertical slash through it, and ending in a numeric '4.' My gut says this means it could have been a prototype. Yes? No? Other? Thanks much! -- --- Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech dot com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)
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Hi Bruce,
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That is almost certainly a "B" phase engineering prototype. First comes "A" phase, then when the bugs are worked out that they discover in that phase they attempt to build what would become a final instrument design ready for production. That would be the "B" phase. If they are lucky they find the rest of the problems with their design in this phase, fix them, and now they have a design that is producible as a finished product. Dennis Tillman W7pF
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From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bruce Lane Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:56 PM To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: [TekScopes] Question, and shameless plug... Fellow Tekkies, I've posted a couple of 7L series modules I have up on Ebay, specifically a (working) 7L5 and a (non-functional) 7L14. Here's a link if you're interested. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=98030-8803&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=bftbell&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200&_fosrp=1 With that out of the way -- I do have one question on the 7L14 unit. It had the weirdest serial number label I've ever seen, in the form of an uppercase B (Beaverton, I'm pretty sure) followed by what looks like a lower-case 'o' with a vertical slash through it, and ending in a numeric '4.' My gut says this means it could have been a prototype. Yes? No? Other? Thanks much! -- --- Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech dot com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green) -- Dennis Tillman W7pF TekScopes Moderator
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Ed Breya
Actually, there was also another phase - "E" for engineering - more of a proof of concept type deal, and maybe only one or two ever in existence. A and B came later, if the project was approved, and made in quantities sufficient for testing. B was the perfected version of A, and very close to production. Bs were made in sufficient quantity for final EMC, environmental, safety and other testing, and for use as field sales and service demos at introduction. No phase instruments were ever intended for sale - they usually remained as field office demos, any many were given to product development team members, with the stipulation that they were not to be resold. Any remaining likely were scrapped or showed up at the Country Store. After many years of course, this didn't matter, so many phase units are floating around, junked from field offices, or passed along from team members, or the store.
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I just updated the listing to allow what I think is Ebay's
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International economy shipping. Try recalculating based on that, and see what happens. Thanks!
On 12-Nov-20 09:53, Colin Herbert via groups.io wrote:
The 7L5 looks interesting, but the shipping to the UK is eye-watering. I realise that it isn't your decision, but $537-plus - ouch! --
--- Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech dot com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)
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Ke-Fong Lin
Hi Bruce,
Yes, shipping is now "only" $79. That's much better. Yet, it's probably possible to be even a bit less with USPS priority international package. Best regards,
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Hi,
The eBay GSP shipping price probably includes local import duty and taxes. Regards, John
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Ke-Fong Lin
Hi John,
No, import taxes are extra and are displayed separately. However, GSP doesn't charge service fee (UPS or Fedex charges something like 20 euros for that!). So all in all, I would rate GSP as "very good". Best regards,
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