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Old Tektronix Books

Daniel Koller
 

Hi Folks,
  The recent conversation about 500 series scopes prompted Dennis to recommend two books, 
      "Oscilloscopes: Collecting and Restoring a Classic"; ISBN-13: 9780963307156; Publisher: Stanley A. Griffiths; Publication date: 01/28/1992;
      "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", (C) 1961, 1962, Tektronix, Inc., S. W. Millikan Way, P.O. Box 500, Beaverton, Oregon.

It occurred to me that though I have not *needed* those books to repair my scopes in the past it sure would be nice to have a better Idea on how the circuits work, and to be able to learn more about the scopes in general, so I looked them up.
  YESTERDAY, I was able to find a couple copies of Stan's book on Amazon, used, for about $22.  If I still have the website up at home and it has not refreshed, I'll get a screen grab for proof, but there were one or two copies available from at least two sources, through Amazon.   But TODAY, the least expensive copy is $94.09!!    So, it seems likely to me that this very discussion, within out closed group, prompted someone to buy a book or two, and those actions drove up the perceived demand on a limited resource to raise the price significantly.  
  Question:  Did anyone here, reading those messages yesterday go ahead and buy Stan's book on line?  What was your price and through whom did you make the purchase?   I sure HOPE that someone here bought the book.  Otherwise, I have a more nefarious theory;  The bots are actively scanning our conversations to manipulate the prices of things on line.   That is not a pleasant concept.
    I found a copy through Moe's books for $28 and bought it.   Let's see how the price changes tomorrow.
   As for the Tek book, "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", also found 3 copies in good condition for under $20 and bought one.   We'll see what happens to that as well.
  I just figured I'd throw this out there as an FYI / buyer beware sort of thing.   Meanwhile, I am looking forward to some fun technical reading!
Dan

 

Daniel,
Good for you!

It is my impression from watching scarce items like this that there are many companies that will advertise an item at an outrageous price even if they don't have it. They rely on finding some other company that claims to have it and then if you meet the price that justifies them actually hunting down a real copy the will do that and pocket the difference.

The reality is that all there needs to be is one copy and these companies make it appear that there may be more than one copy or even many. Daniel discovered that in the case of Stan's book there was only one copy. Now the price has jumped back into the stratosphere where it usually is.

I suspect there isn't more than one (or two at the most) of the Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry books either and now that Daniel bought one of them I think the price will skyrocket like Stan's book did.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Daniel Koller via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:45 AM
To: TekScopes <tekscopes@groups.io>
Subject: [TekScopes] Old Tektronix Books

Hi Folks,
The recent conversation about 500 series scopes prompted Dennis to
recommend two books,
"Oscilloscopes: Collecting and Restoring a Classic"; ISBN-13:
9780963307156; Publisher: Stanley A. Griffiths; Publication date:
01/28/1992;
"Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", (C) 1961, 1962, Tektronix,
Inc., S. W. Millikan Way, P.O. Box 500, Beaverton, Oregon.

It occurred to me that though I have not *needed* those books to
repair my scopes in the past it sure would be nice to have a better
Idea on how the circuits work, and to be able to learn more about the
scopes in general, so I looked them up.
YESTERDAY, I was able to find a couple copies of Stan's book on
Amazon, used, for about $22. If I still have the website up at home
and it has not refreshed, I'll get a screen grab for proof, but there
were one or two copies available from at least two sources, through
Amazon. But TODAY, the least expensive copy is $94.09!! So, it
seems likely to me that this very discussion, within out closed group,
prompted someone to buy a book or two, and those actions drove up the
perceived demand on a limited resource to raise the price
significantly.
Question: Did anyone here, reading those messages yesterday go
ahead and buy Stan's book on line? What was your price and through
whom did you make the purchase? I sure HOPE that someone here bought
the book. Otherwise, I have a more nefarious theory; The bots are
actively scanning our conversations to manipulate the prices of things
on line. That is not a pleasant concept.
I found a copy through Moe's books for $28 and bought it. Let's
see how the price changes tomorrow.
As for the Tek book, "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", also found 3
copies in good condition for under $20 and bought one. We'll see
what happens to that as well.
I just figured I'd throw this out there as an FYI / buyer beware
sort of thing. Meanwhile, I am looking forward to some fun technical
reading!
Dan




--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator

Bill Fenech
 

Dan,

I purchase both online this AM through AbeBooks:

Oscilloscopes: Selecting and Restoring a Classic - $31 plus $4 shipping

Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry. Revised Edition - $19.75 including
shipping


Bill AI6JZ



Oscilloscopes: Selecting and Restoring a Classic

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:05 PM Dennis Tillman W7PF <@Dennis_Tillman_W7PF>
wrote:

Daniel,
Good for you!

It is my impression from watching scarce items like this that there are
many companies that will advertise an item at an outrageous price even if
they don't have it. They rely on finding some other company that claims to
have it and then if you meet the price that justifies them actually hunting
down a real copy the will do that and pocket the difference.

The reality is that all there needs to be is one copy and these companies
make it appear that there may be more than one copy or even many. Daniel
discovered that in the case of Stan's book there was only one copy. Now the
price has jumped back into the stratosphere where it usually is.

I suspect there isn't more than one (or two at the most) of the Typical
Oscilloscope Circuitry books either and now that Daniel bought one of them
I think the price will skyrocket like Stan's book did.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Daniel Koller via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:45 AM
To: TekScopes <tekscopes@groups.io>
Subject: [TekScopes] Old Tektronix Books

Hi Folks,
The recent conversation about 500 series scopes prompted Dennis to
recommend two books,
"Oscilloscopes: Collecting and Restoring a Classic"; ISBN-13:
9780963307156; Publisher: Stanley A. Griffiths; Publication date:
01/28/1992;
"Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", (C) 1961, 1962, Tektronix,
Inc., S. W. Millikan Way, P.O. Box 500, Beaverton, Oregon.

It occurred to me that though I have not *needed* those books to
repair my scopes in the past it sure would be nice to have a better
Idea on how the circuits work, and to be able to learn more about the
scopes in general, so I looked them up.
YESTERDAY, I was able to find a couple copies of Stan's book on
Amazon, used, for about $22. If I still have the website up at home
and it has not refreshed, I'll get a screen grab for proof, but there
were one or two copies available from at least two sources, through
Amazon. But TODAY, the least expensive copy is $94.09!! So, it
seems likely to me that this very discussion, within out closed group,
prompted someone to buy a book or two, and those actions drove up the
perceived demand on a limited resource to raise the price
significantly.
Question: Did anyone here, reading those messages yesterday go
ahead and buy Stan's book on line? What was your price and through
whom did you make the purchase? I sure HOPE that someone here bought
the book. Otherwise, I have a more nefarious theory; The bots are
actively scanning our conversations to manipulate the prices of things
on line. That is not a pleasant concept.
I found a copy through Moe's books for $28 and bought it. Let's
see how the price changes tomorrow.
As for the Tek book, "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", also found 3
copies in good condition for under $20 and bought one. We'll see
what happens to that as well.
I just figured I'd throw this out there as an FYI / buyer beware
sort of thing. Meanwhile, I am looking forward to some fun technical
reading!
Dan




--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator



Daniel Koller
 

Aha!  Bill, you're the culprit!   ;)
I did the same - you got there first.   The $31 "Oscilloscopes" (was $28 something when I looked) was NOT available.  GlassFrogBooks (via Abe's Books) came back and said they did not have the copy and requested $10 more to find another copy.  We will see if they can find it for $38!!   I won't go higher than that because I won't believe they can find a copy.
As for the "Typical circuits book"   There were three, one at $15, one at $17 and one at $19.   I ordered the $17 one.    I hope I get it.
Dennis, yes, what you said is right.   I've noticed that with goods sometimes - There is only one item out there, or was, as some retailer some place, but other aggregator or sale websites pretend to have is at the same price.  Sometimes it's obvious and you can tell who the original retailer is (particularly if the photos are identical).  Sometimes it's not so simple.   Such aggregator websites are infuriating because they provide no new benefit, no new information to anyone.  They are just there to scam and make money for the operator.  
Dan

On Friday, March 29, 2019, 4:55:41 PM EDT, Bill Fenech <wfenech@...> wrote:

Dan,

I purchase both online this AM through AbeBooks:

Oscilloscopes: Selecting and Restoring a Classic  -  $31 plus $4 shipping

Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry. Revised Edition  -  $19.75 including
shipping


Bill  AI6JZ

John Williams
 

Good sleuthing. If you want a laugh take a look at the price on The Cathode Ray Tube by Peter Keller. If I hadn’t retired years ago I could sell the three books and retire in style. Apparently. Lol

Bill Fenech
 

Slight revision to my previous email....one book is marked as received and
confirmed while the other has not confirmed yet
(though have been charged for both).

Dan - FYI I ordered both books after I saw your email this morning. :) I
was only partially up to speed on the other thread at the time.

Cheers
Bill AI6JZ

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:16 PM Daniel Koller via Groups.Io <kaboomdk=
yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Aha! Bill, you're the culprit! ;)
I did the same - you got there first. The $31 "Oscilloscopes" (was $28
something when I looked) was NOT available. GlassFrogBooks (via Abe's
Books) came back and said they did not have the copy and requested $10 more
to find another copy. We will see if they can find it for $38!! I won't
go higher than that because I won't believe they can find a copy.
As for the "Typical circuits book" There were three, one at $15, one at
$17 and one at $19. I ordered the $17 one. I hope I get it.
Dennis, yes, what you said is right. I've noticed that with goods
sometimes - There is only one item out there, or was, as some retailer some
place, but other aggregator or sale websites pretend to have is at the same
price. Sometimes it's obvious and you can tell who the original retailer
is (particularly if the photos are identical). Sometimes it's not so
simple. Such aggregator websites are infuriating because they provide no
new benefit, no new information to anyone. They are just there to scam and
make money for the operator.
Dan
On Friday, March 29, 2019, 4:55:41 PM EDT, Bill Fenech <
wfenech@...> wrote:

Dan,

I purchase both online this AM through AbeBooks:

Oscilloscopes: Selecting and Restoring a Classic - $31 plus $4 shipping

Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry. Revised Edition - $19.75 including
shipping


Bill AI6JZ






Adrian
 

I might be a culprit too just got the only copy of “oscilloscopes” I could see on Ebay which from the photo was the same one that was listed on Amazon and a couple of other sellers google found. I already have a copy of Stan’s book

Adrian
Sent from an I-thingy

On 29 Mar 2019, at 21:21, Bill Fenech <wfenech@...> wrote:

Slight revision to my previous email....one book is marked as received and
confirmed while the other has not confirmed yet
(though have been charged for both).

Dan - FYI I ordered both books after I saw your email this morning. :) I
was only partially up to speed on the other thread at the time.

Cheers
Bill AI6JZ

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:16 PM Daniel Koller via Groups.Io <kaboomdk=
yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Aha! Bill, you're the culprit! ;)
I did the same - you got there first. The $31 "Oscilloscopes" (was $28
something when I looked) was NOT available. GlassFrogBooks (via Abe's
Books) came back and said they did not have the copy and requested $10 more
to find another copy. We will see if they can find it for $38!! I won't
go higher than that because I won't believe they can find a copy.
As for the "Typical circuits book" There were three, one at $15, one at
$17 and one at $19. I ordered the $17 one. I hope I get it.
Dennis, yes, what you said is right. I've noticed that with goods
sometimes - There is only one item out there, or was, as some retailer some
place, but other aggregator or sale websites pretend to have is at the same
price. Sometimes it's obvious and you can tell who the original retailer
is (particularly if the photos are identical). Sometimes it's not so
simple. Such aggregator websites are infuriating because they provide no
new benefit, no new information to anyone. They are just there to scam and
make money for the operator.
Dan
On Friday, March 29, 2019, 4:55:41 PM EDT, Bill Fenech <
wfenech@...> wrote:

Dan,

I purchase both online this AM through AbeBooks:

Oscilloscopes: Selecting and Restoring a Classic - $31 plus $4 shipping

Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry. Revised Edition - $19.75 including
shipping


Bill AI6JZ







Daniel Koller
 

YESTERDAY.  PM some time.

TODAY, after a couple of us bought books, and all I did was refresh the screen:


Amazon:  liars, cheaters,... statisticians!!
  Dan
p.s.  Let's see who actually receive the books they ordered.  Three or more of us requested them.   Until one of us actually receives a book, we have to assume there are *none* out there.   Once one of two of us get books, we can then *know* there are none out there!

On Friday, March 29, 2019, 5:39:03 PM EDT, Adrian <Adrian@...> wrote:

I might be a culprit too just got the only copy of “oscilloscopes”  I could see on Ebay which from the photo was the same one that was listed on Amazon and a couple of other sellers google found. I already have a copy of Stan’s book

Adrian
Sent from an I-thingy

On 29 Mar 2019, at 21:21, Bill Fenech <wfenech@...> wrote:

Slight revision to my previous email....one book is marked as received and
confirmed while the other has not confirmed yet
(though have been charged for both).

Dan - FYI I ordered both books after I saw your email this morning.  :)  I
was only partially up to speed on the other thread at the time.

Cheers
Bill  AI6JZ

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:16 PM Daniel Koller via Groups.Io <kaboomdk=
yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Aha!  Bill, you're the culprit!  ;)
I did the same - you got there first.  The $31 "Oscilloscopes" (was $28
something when I looked) was NOT available.  GlassFrogBooks (via Abe's
Books) came back and said they did not have the copy and requested $10 more
to find another copy.  We will see if they can find it for $38!!  I won't
go higher than that because I won't believe they can find a copy.
As for the "Typical circuits book"  There were three, one at $15, one at
$17 and one at $19.  I ordered the $17 one.    I hope I get it.
Dennis, yes, what you said is right.  I've noticed that with goods
sometimes - There is only one item out there, or was, as some retailer some
place, but other aggregator or sale websites pretend to have is at the same
price.  Sometimes it's obvious and you can tell who the original retailer
is (particularly if the photos are identical).  Sometimes it's not so
simple.  Such aggregator websites are infuriating because they provide no
new benefit, no new information to anyone.  They are just there to scam and
make money for the operator.
Dan
    On Friday, March 29, 2019, 4:55:41 PM EDT, Bill Fenech <
wfenech@...> wrote:

Dan,

I purchase both online this AM through AbeBooks:

Oscilloscopes: Selecting and Restoring a Classic  -  $31 plus $4 shipping

Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry. Revised Edition  -  $19.75 including
shipping


Bill  AI6JZ







Andre de guerin
 

You are most likely right. Someone recently bought up all the rights to old electronics magazine archives.Seems that they did so purely to extract money from folks trying to cut down on paper copies by getting them online.
Also I have a few assorted manuals here, if anyone has a use.

#include "802701.h"

On Friday, 29 March 2019, 16:44:52 GMT, Daniel Koller via Groups.Io <kaboomdk=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Folks,
  The recent conversation about 500 series scopes prompted Dennis to recommend two books, 
      "Oscilloscopes: Collecting and Restoring a Classic"; ISBN-13: 9780963307156; Publisher: Stanley A. Griffiths; Publication date: 01/28/1992;
      "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", (C) 1961, 1962, Tektronix, Inc., S. W. Millikan Way, P.O. Box 500, Beaverton, Oregon.

It occurred to me that though I have not *needed* those books to repair my scopes in the past it sure would be nice to have a better Idea on how the circuits work, and to be able to learn more about the scopes in general, so I looked them up.
  YESTERDAY, I was able to find a couple copies of Stan's book on Amazon, used, for about $22.  If I still have the website up at home and it has not refreshed, I'll get a screen grab for proof, but there were one or two copies available from at least two sources, through Amazon.   But TODAY, the least expensive copy is $94.09!!    So, it seems likely to me that this very discussion, within out closed group, prompted someone to buy a book or two, and those actions drove up the perceived demand on a limited resource to raise the price significantly.  
  Question:  Did anyone here, reading those messages yesterday go ahead and buy Stan's book on line?  What was your price and through whom did you make the purchase?   I sure HOPE that someone here bought the book.  Otherwise, I have a more nefarious theory;  The bots are actively scanning our conversations to manipulate the prices of things on line.   That is not a pleasant concept.
    I found a copy through Moe's books for $28 and bought it.   Let's see how the price changes tomorrow.
   As for the Tek book, "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", also found 3 copies in good condition for under $20 and bought one.   We'll see what happens to that as well.
  I just figured I'd throw this out there as an FYI / buyer beware sort of thing.   Meanwhile, I am looking forward to some fun technical reading!
Dan

Dave Daniel
 

Yes, these sellers are called "book jackers" by legitimate sellers. A book-jacker will advertise a book at a higher price than a legitimate seller and then sell the book to you. The book jacker buys the book from the original seller and then ships it to you or has ir drop-shipped to you from the original seller.

One can sometimes spot this when a book for which one is looking comes on the market, listed by the original seller, and then shortly thereafter shows up with the exact same description (word-for-word) as the original seller's description but at a higher price. Also, it is sometimes evident that the book jacker lacks experience and card when packing the book before shipping it to you.

This started happening about fifteen years ago.

Another point that I was going to make in this thread is that the website bookfinder.com is a good resource to find all copies of a given book that are available from ABE Books, Alibris, Amazon and the rest of the other second-hand online book sellers. I almost always try to buy from book sellers who list their books on ABEBooks or Alibris, and in many cases, I can purchase used books from sellers from whom I have purchased in the past (for instance, Zubal books). I don't buy many books anymore since I have too many now. I have had lots of problems buying used books through Amazon and I tend to not buy used books through Amazon anymore.

I found my copy of "Typical Oscilloscope Circuits" in a surplus parts store decades ago. I don't remember how much I paid for it, but ISTR it was just a few dollars. I've since collected all of the other Tektronix "Concepts" series of books; I wonder if they are still out there and, if so, for how much. At least many of them are available from the TekWiki, DavMar and K04BB websites (for instance) in PDF form and so have been preserved in a useful form.

DaveD

On 3/29/2019 4:04 PM, Dennis Tillman W7PF wrote:
Daniel,
Good for you!

It is my impression from watching scarce items like this that there are many companies that will advertise an item at an outrageous price even if they don't have it. They rely on finding some other company that claims to have it and then if you meet the price that justifies them actually hunting down a real copy the will do that and pocket the difference.

The reality is that all there needs to be is one copy and these companies make it appear that there may be more than one copy or even many. Daniel discovered that in the case of Stan's book there was only one copy. Now the price has jumped back into the stratosphere where it usually is.

I suspect there isn't more than one (or two at the most) of the Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry books either and now that Daniel bought one of them I think the price will skyrocket like Stan's book did.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Daniel Koller via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:45 AM
To: TekScopes <tekscopes@groups.io>
Subject: [TekScopes] Old Tektronix Books

Hi Folks,
The recent conversation about 500 series scopes prompted Dennis to
recommend two books,
"Oscilloscopes: Collecting and Restoring a Classic"; ISBN-13:
9780963307156; Publisher: Stanley A. Griffiths; Publication date:
01/28/1992;
"Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", (C) 1961, 1962, Tektronix,
Inc., S. W. Millikan Way, P.O. Box 500, Beaverton, Oregon.

It occurred to me that though I have not *needed* those books to
repair my scopes in the past it sure would be nice to have a better
Idea on how the circuits work, and to be able to learn more about the
scopes in general, so I looked them up.
YESTERDAY, I was able to find a couple copies of Stan's book on
Amazon, used, for about $22. If I still have the website up at home
and it has not refreshed, I'll get a screen grab for proof, but there
were one or two copies available from at least two sources, through
Amazon. But TODAY, the least expensive copy is $94.09!! So, it
seems likely to me that this very discussion, within out closed group,
prompted someone to buy a book or two, and those actions drove up the
perceived demand on a limited resource to raise the price
significantly.
Question: Did anyone here, reading those messages yesterday go
ahead and buy Stan's book on line? What was your price and through
whom did you make the purchase? I sure HOPE that someone here bought
the book. Otherwise, I have a more nefarious theory; The bots are
actively scanning our conversations to manipulate the prices of things
on line. That is not a pleasant concept.
I found a copy through Moe's books for $28 and bought it. Let's
see how the price changes tomorrow.
As for the Tek book, "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", also found 3
copies in good condition for under $20 and bought one. We'll see
what happens to that as well.
I just figured I'd throw this out there as an FYI / buyer beware
sort of thing. Meanwhile, I am looking forward to some fun technical
reading!
Dan


Daniel Koller
 

Well, good news so far!  My copy of "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry" arrived today.  It's a "revised edition" from 1962 and it's in very good shape.  The cover smells a bit like soap rather than cigarettes interestingly enough.    But the stamp on the first two pages reads "Property of Collins Radio Co."  Cool.    I recently picked up a Collins-made  R390 for fun.  Wonder if this book and that receiver ever crossed paths.
Still waiting on Stan's book, if the bookseller ever finds me a copy for $38.  Ha ha.   Dan

On Saturday, March 30, 2019, 8:20:45 AM EDT, Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...> wrote:

Yes, these sellers are called "book jackers" by legitimate sellers. A
book-jacker will advertise a book at a higher price than a legitimate
seller and then sell the book to you. The book jacker buys the book from
the original seller and then ships it to you or has ir drop-shipped to
you from the original seller.

One can sometimes spot this when a book for which one is looking comes
on the market, listed by the original seller, and then shortly
thereafter shows up with the exact same description (word-for-word) as
the original seller's description but at a higher price. Also, it is
sometimes evident that the book jacker lacks experience and card when
packing the book before shipping it to you.

This started happening about fifteen years ago.

Another point that I was going to make in this thread is that the
website bookfinder.com is a good resource to find all copies of a given
book that are available from ABE Books, Alibris, Amazon and the rest of
the other second-hand online book sellers. I almost always try to buy
from book sellers who list their books on ABEBooks or Alibris, and in
many cases, I can purchase used books from sellers from whom I have
purchased in the past (for instance, Zubal books). I don't buy many
books anymore since I have too many now. I have had lots of problems
buying used books through Amazon and I tend to not buy used books
through Amazon anymore.

I found my copy of "Typical Oscilloscope Circuits" in a surplus parts
store decades ago. I don't remember how much I paid for it, but ISTR it
was just a few dollars. I've since collected all of the other Tektronix
"Concepts" series of books; I wonder if they are still out there and, if
so, for how much. At least many of them are available from the TekWiki,
DavMar and K04BB websites (for instance) in PDF form and so have been
preserved in a useful form.

DaveD


On 3/29/2019 4:04 PM, Dennis Tillman W7PF wrote:
Daniel,
Good for you!

It is my impression from watching scarce items like this that there are many companies that will advertise an item at an outrageous price even if they don't have it. They rely on finding some other company that claims to have it and then if you meet the price that justifies them actually hunting down a real copy the will do that and pocket the difference.

The reality is that all there needs to be is one copy and these companies make it appear that there may be more than one copy or even many. Daniel discovered that in the case of Stan's book there was only one copy. Now the price has jumped back into the stratosphere where it usually is.

I suspect there isn't more than one (or two at the most) of the Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry books either and now that Daniel bought one of them I think the price will skyrocket like Stan's book did.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Daniel Koller via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:45 AM
To: TekScopes <tekscopes@groups.io>
Subject: [TekScopes] Old Tektronix Books

Hi Folks,
    The recent conversation about 500 series scopes prompted Dennis to
recommend two books,
        "Oscilloscopes: Collecting and Restoring a Classic"; ISBN-13:
9780963307156; Publisher: Stanley A. Griffiths; Publication date:
01/28/1992;
        "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", (C) 1961, 1962, Tektronix,
Inc., S. W. Millikan Way, P.O. Box 500, Beaverton, Oregon.

It occurred to me that though I have not *needed* those books to
repair my scopes in the past it sure would be nice to have a better
Idea on how the circuits work, and to be able to learn more about the
scopes in general, so I looked them up.
    YESTERDAY, I was able to find a couple copies of Stan's book on
Amazon, used, for about $22.  If I still have the website up at home
and it has not refreshed, I'll get a screen grab for proof, but there
were one or two copies available from at least two sources, through
Amazon.  But TODAY, the least expensive copy is $94.09!!    So, it
seems likely to me that this very discussion, within out closed group,
prompted someone to buy a book or two, and those actions drove up the
perceived demand on a limited resource to raise the price
significantly.
    Question:  Did anyone here, reading those messages yesterday go
ahead and buy Stan's book on line?  What was your price and through
whom did you make the purchase?  I sure HOPE that someone here bought
the book.  Otherwise, I have a more nefarious theory;  The bots are
actively scanning our conversations to manipulate the prices of things
on line.  That is not a pleasant concept.
      I found a copy through Moe's books for $28 and bought it.  Let's
see how the price changes tomorrow.
    As for the Tek book, "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry", also found 3
copies in good condition for under $20 and bought one.  We'll see
what happens to that as well.
    I just figured I'd throw this out there as an FYI / buyer beware
sort of thing.  Meanwhile, I am looking forward to some fun technical
reading!
Dan


Craig Sawyers <c.sawyers@...>
 

Well, good news so far! My copy of "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry" arrived today
Still waiting on Stan's book, if the bookseller ever finds me a copy for $38. Ha ha. Dan
I count myself privileged to have Stan's copy that he dedicated to his father on Father's day on June 21st 1992.

Craig

Roy Morgan
 

On Apr 4, 2019, at 9:47 PM, Daniel Koller via Groups.Io <kaboomdk=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Well, good news so far! My copy of "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry" arrived today.
The copy I got via Amazon came two days ago. I’m a happy camper! The revised version I got was published in 1966, the same year I got my BS EE, having used these scopes in labs. I now have a 547 and 545B, so I’m thrilled to have the book that tells about their innards.

... I've since collected all of the other Tektronix
"Concepts" series of books; ... many of them are available from the TekWiki,
DavMar and K04BB websites (for instance) in PDF form
Uh oh. I guess I will add to my books wanted list! Is there a list of them on any of the sites you mention?

(I do have some Radiation Lab series of books for trade.)

Roy

Roy Morgan
K1LKY since 1958
k1lky68@...

Craig Sawyers <c.sawyers@...>
 

... I've since collected all of the other Tektronix "Concepts" series
of books; ... many of them are available from the TekWiki, DavMar and
K04BB websites (for instance) in PDF form
Uh oh. I guess I will add to my books wanted list! Is there a list of them on any of the sites you
mention?
https://www.davmar.org/concepts.html

Craig

Dave Daniel
 

I ended up with (I think) a definitive list of all of those books. I forget how I did that (it's been a while). The Tekwiki site has what I believe is a complete list of the books except for the "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry" title, which I should add. The Davmar site has a complete list with the exception of "Strain Gauge Measurements", which book I have never seen (and which means my earlier statement about having all of them is not accurate). These sites have live links to those books where a PDF copy exists (on that website) and just an entry in the list for those that don't exist. The K04BB site has an abbreviated list. And one or two of the books had revised printings (e.g., "Semiconductor Device Measurements"). I count 26 total titles, including the aforementioned "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry".

Also, I think the subject of a complete list of these books has been discussed on this forum before.

I also have a complete set of the Radiation Lab books and a partially-complete set of the Bell Labs series books.

DaveD

... I've since collected all of the other Tektronix
"Concepts" series of books; ... many of them are available from the TekWiki,
DavMar and K04BB websites (for instance) in PDF form
Uh oh. I guess I will add to my books wanted list! Is there a list of them on any of the sites you mention?

(I do have some Radiation Lab series of books for trade.)

Roy

Roy Morgan
K1LKY since 1958
k1lky68@...





David DiGiacomo
 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:53 AM Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...> wrote:
I ended up with (I think) a definitive list of all of those books. I
forget how I did that (it's been a while). The Tekwiki site has what I
believe is a complete list of the books except for the "Typical
Oscilloscope Circuitry" title, which I should add.
Why would you add it, when it's not a "Concepts" book? (It's still a
good book, but it should be on a different list.)

The Davmar site has a
complete list with the exception of "Strain Gauge Measurements", which
book I have never seen (and which means my earlier statement about
having all of them is not accurate).
I think that one also predates the "Concepts" series, despite the name.

 

Hi Dave,
I think the "Strain Gauge Measurements" book is actually called, or was renamed, "Transducer Measurements".

I just posted the complete list of books to TekScopes.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Daniel
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Old Tektronix Books
<snip>
The Davmar site has a complete list with the exception of "Strain
Gauge Measurements", which book I have never seen...
DaveD



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator

Kurt Rosenfeld
 

Dave Daniel
 

The "Typical Oscilloscope Circuitry" book PDF should be o all three sites. Where one wishes to place it is another matter. Since it is, as far as I know, one of a kind insofar as it is not explicitly part of a series, the "Concepts" list would be a reasonable place to put it. Alternatively, it could sit on its own on that particular TekWiki page .

As far as the "Strain Gage [sic]" book is concerned, it is still interesting; I don't remember if the material is wholly contained in either of the "Transducers" concepts books, though, so I downloaded a copy.

DaveD

On 4/12/2019 10:14 AM, David DiGiacomo wrote:
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:53 AM Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...> wrote:
I ended up with (I think) a definitive list of all of those books. I
forget how I did that (it's been a while). The Tekwiki site has what I
believe is a complete list of the books except for the "Typical
Oscilloscope Circuitry" title, which I should add.
Why would you add it, when it's not a "Concepts" book? (It's still a
good book, but it should be on a different list.)

The Davmar site has a
complete list with the exception of "Strain Gauge Measurements", which
book I have never seen (and which means my earlier statement about
having all of them is not accurate).
I think that one also predates the "Concepts" series, despite the name.

Adrian
 

Well, The copy I ordered did actually arrive in the UK today, clearly not the one in the photo but nice condition albeit without the dust jacket.

It's the 3rd printing 1966 and, from writing on the flyleaf was previously owned by a 'James Brey on Jan 15, 1968' and subsequently by a 'David Cambell' - It would be neat if they are anywhere around here!

On 3/29/2019 10:07 PM, Daniel Koller via Groups.Io wrote:
TODAY, after a couple of us bought books, and all I did was refresh the screen:


Amazon:  liars, cheaters,... statisticians!!
  Dan
p.s.  Let's see who actually receive the books they ordered.  Three or more of us requested them.   Until one of us actually receives a book, we have to assume there are*none* out there.   Once one of two of us get books, we can then*know* there are none out there!

On Friday, March 29, 2019, 5:39:03 PM EDT, Adrian<Adrian@...> wrote:
I might be a culprit too just got the only copy of “oscilloscopes”  I could see on Ebay which from the photo was the same one that was listed on Amazon and a couple of other sellers google found. I already have a copy of Stan’s book.

Adrian
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