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OT: Old ICs for sale


Michael Dunn
 

Lot of old ICs here…some should be relevant to 70s & 80s Tek gear.



https://www.ebay.com/itm/302763294559



Pardon the intrusion.


G Hopper
 

Well, the seller seems a bit full of himself and full of hyperbole: "...while I’d wager every last chip is good, ..., they are sold as-is."

In other words, "I'll engage in a bit of puffery and unsupported claims, and then disclaim all that by selling them as-is." If he won't guarantee them, he's not really willing to wager that "every last chip" is in fact good, is he?

I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering even if some of the chips are dead. I do have to chuckle since I have some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the boxes I've inherited from others. Never really considered the possibility that any of it had value. "There's gold in them there drawers!!!!"


Tom Gardner
 

On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote:
I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering even if some of the chips are dead. I do have to chuckle since I have some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the boxes I've inherited from others. Never really considered the possibility that any of it had value. "There's gold in them there drawers!!!!"
Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be unused. Look at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and "germanium transistor"


Daniel Koller
 

Questionable how much value there really is in those chips.  I have a similar-ish collection.  But I get paid by the hour at work, so I have to subtract the time it would take me to sort them, photograph them, package them, process the e-bay posting and receipt of change, and then mail them.  It takes much more time than any of us really account for.   Take off the 15% you lose to ebay/paypal fees and it's almost not worth selling them, which is basically why I don't even bother with ebay anymore.    And those of you who are retired.... don't say "I've got the time" because then you are under-valuing your hard-earned retirement.  Occasionally I find something that might fetch me over $100 on ebay and then I consider selling it - high value items.
Dan

On Monday, June 11, 2018, 3:43:23 AM EDT, Tom Gardner <tggzzz@...> wrote:

On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote:
I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering even if some of the chips are dead.  I do have to chuckle since I have some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the boxes I've inherited from others.  Never really considered the possibility that any of it had value.  "There's gold in them there drawers!!!!"
Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be unused. Look
at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and "germanium transistor"


Dave Seiter
 

Selling items is better than watching TV, and if they get used, it's better than dumping them in landfill (or at least putting that off for a while longer).
-Dave

From: Daniel Koller via Groups.Io <kaboomdk=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale

Questionable how much value there really is in those chips.  I have a similar-ish collection.  But I get paid by the hour at work, so I have to subtract the time it would take me to sort them, photograph them, package them, process the e-bay posting and receipt of change, and then mail them.  It takes much more time than any of us really account for.   Take off the 15% you lose to ebay/paypal fees and it's almost not worth selling them, which is basically why I don't even bother with ebay anymore.    And those of you who are retired.... don't say "I've got the time" because then you are under-valuing your hard-earned retirement.  Occasionally I find something that might fetch me over $100 on ebay and then I consider selling it - high value items.
Dan

    On Monday, June 11, 2018, 3:43:23 AM EDT, Tom Gardner <tggzzz@...> wrote:

On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote:
I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering even if some of the chips are dead.  I do have to chuckle since I have some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the boxes I've inherited from others.  Never really considered the possibility that any of it had value.  "There's gold in them there drawers!!!!"
Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be unused. Look
at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and "germanium transistor"


Daniel Koller
 

That I agree with.   Not dumping into landfill "adds value".  Hey, I saved an RM504 from a list member here and finally found a home for it, so I understand that point!
Dan

On Monday, June 11, 2018, 1:28:24 PM EDT, Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote:

Selling items is better than watching TV, and if they get used, it's better than dumping them in landfill (or at least putting that off for a while longer).
-Dave

      From: Daniel Koller via Groups.Io <kaboomdk=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale
 
Questionable how much value there really is in those chips.  I have a similar-ish collection.  But I get paid by the hour at work, so I have to subtract the time it would take me to sort them, photograph them, package them, process the e-bay posting and receipt of change, and then mail them.  It takes much more time than any of us really account for.   Take off the 15% you lose to ebay/paypal fees and it's almost not worth selling them, which is basically why I don't even bother with ebay anymore.    And those of you who are retired.... don't say "I've got the time" because then you are under-valuing your hard-earned retirement.  Occasionally I find something that might fetch me over $100 on ebay and then I consider selling it - high value items.
Dan

    On Monday, June 11, 2018, 3:43:23 AM EDT, Tom Gardner <tggzzz@...> wrote:

On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote:
I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering even if some of the chips are dead.  I do have to chuckle since I have some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the boxes I've inherited from others.  Never really considered the possibility that any of it had value.  "There's gold in them there drawers!!!!"
Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be unused. Look
at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and "germanium transistor"


 

Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay,

There is some misunderstanding about prices on Ebay: Newbies and or sellers with stores frequently list their items with arbitrarily high prices. Sometimes they simply look at current listings and price accordingly.

BUT what really matters is what these items SOLD for. To find that out you have to look carefully through the completed listings for the auctions that were successfully concluded.

That will tell you the true price the market thinks this is worth.

If there is an outlier in the completed auctions that sold for a truly outrageous price you have to look at the bidding that took place. It was probably between two newbies that didn't understand how Ebay works and they kept outbidding each other by a few dollars each time. If you are a seller you always hope your item will be bid up by newbies to absurd prices. It is lots of fun to watch one of these bidding wars take place and wonder where it will end.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gardner Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:43 AM

On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote:
I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering
even if some of the chips are dead. I do have to chuckle since I have
some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the
boxes I've inherited from others. Never really considered the
possibility that any of it had value. "There's gold in them there
drawers!!!!"

Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be
unused. Look at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and
"germanium transistor"



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator


Dave Seiter
 

A bidding war hasn't happened to any of my listings for years, but yeah, it's so much fun to watch!  These days, it's usually only rare items that end up in bidding wars, but certain categories see more activity than others.  Another fun event is having two or more people snipe with "silly" bids at the last second.
-Dave

From: Dennis Tillman W7PF <@Dennis_Tillman_W7pF>
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale

Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay,

There is some misunderstanding about prices on Ebay: Newbies and or sellers with stores frequently list their items with arbitrarily high prices. Sometimes they simply look at current listings and price accordingly.

BUT what really matters is what these items SOLD for. To find that out you have to look carefully through the completed listings for the auctions that were successfully concluded.

That will tell you the true price the market thinks this is worth.

If there is an outlier in the completed auctions that sold for a truly outrageous price you have to look at the bidding that took place. It was probably between two newbies that didn't understand how Ebay works and they kept outbidding each other by a few dollars each time. If you are a seller you always hope your item will be bid up by newbies to absurd prices. It is lots of fun to watch one of these bidding wars take place and wonder where it will end.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gardner Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:43 AM

On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote:
I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering
even if some of the chips are dead.  I do have to chuckle since I have
some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the
boxes I've inherited from others.  Never really considered the
possibility that any of it had value.  "There's gold in them there
drawers!!!!"

Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be
unused. Look at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and
"germanium transistor"



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator


Tom Gardner
 

On 11/06/18 18:50, Dennis Tillman W7PF wrote:
Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay,

There is some misunderstanding about prices on Ebay: Newbies and or sellers with stores frequently list their items with arbitrarily high prices. Sometimes they simply look at current listings and price accordingly.

BUT what really matters is what these items SOLD for. To find that out you have to look carefully through the completed listings for the auctions that were successfully concluded.
Indeed, but care isn't needed: just select "sold listings" :)

There are a couple of other useful tools for buyers:

  - to find out what an "or best offer" actually sold for, use http://www.watchcount.com/ and paste in the item's number (as found buried in the URL)

  - to find out what offers a seller has accepted/rejected, use https://www.goofbid.com/ebay_best_offers_tool.html# with the seller's name

That will tell you the true price the market thinks this is worth.

If there is an outlier in the completed auctions that sold for a truly outrageous price you have to look at the bidding that took place. It was probably between two newbies that didn't understand how Ebay works and they kept outbidding each other by a few dollars each time. If you are a seller you always hope your item will be bid up by newbies to absurd prices. It is lots of fun to watch one of these bidding wars take place and wonder where it will end.
Try watching the live online auctions!

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gardner Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:43 AM

On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote:
I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering
even if some of the chips are dead. I do have to chuckle since I have
some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the
boxes I've inherited from others. Never really considered the
possibility that any of it had value. "There's gold in them there
drawers!!!!"

Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be
unused. Look at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and
"germanium transistor"


JJ
 

Good info - wasn't aware of those links.
Thx Tom
Best,
John Justin

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Tom Gardner <tggzzz@...> wrote:

On 11/06/18 18:50, Dennis Tillman W7PF wrote:

Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay,

There is some misunderstanding about prices on Ebay: Newbies and or
sellers with stores frequently list their items with arbitrarily high
prices. Sometimes they simply look at current listings and price
accordingly.

BUT what really matters is what these items SOLD for. To find that out
you have to look carefully through the completed listings for the auctions
that were successfully concluded.
Indeed, but care isn't needed: just select "sold listings" :)

There are a couple of other useful tools for buyers:

- to find out what an "or best offer" actually sold for, use
http://www.watchcount.com/ and paste in the item's number (as found
buried in the URL)

- to find out what offers a seller has accepted/rejected, use
https://www.goofbid.com/ebay_best_offers_tool.html# with the seller's name

That will tell you the true price the market thinks this is worth.

If there is an outlier in the completed auctions that sold for a truly
outrageous price you have to look at the bidding that took place. It was
probably between two newbies that didn't understand how Ebay works and they
kept outbidding each other by a few dollars each time. If you are a seller
you always hope your item will be bid up by newbies to absurd prices. It is
lots of fun to watch one of these bidding wars take place and wonder where
it will end.
Try watching the live online auctions!

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gardner Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:43 AM

On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote:

I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering
even if some of the chips are dead. I do have to chuckle since I have
some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the
boxes I've inherited from others. Never really considered the
possibility that any of it had value. "There's gold in them there
drawers!!!!"

Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be
unused. Look at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and
"germanium transistor"





John Griessen
 

On 06/11/2018 12:28 PM, Dave Seiter wrote:
Selling items is better than watching TV, and if they get used, it's better than dumping them in landfill
Yes, I have a scale that goes to 5kg and a squirt bottle of diluted wood glue for putting laser printed labels on
packages. Lots of things can go in flat rate USPS envelopes stuffed to resemble a football. First class package rate for a padded bubble mailer under a pound is a good way.
It helps to be near a source of cardboard boxes. When I gather boxes from local
retailers 130 feet from my door, I often get good packing material too. I use an old Canon S30 for photos because it gets good exposures and focuses well, and makes photos about 2400 pixels across -- not too large so they quickly can be fixed up in GIMP photo editing tool. Instead of cables to the camera, I remove and replace its compact flash card, (about 3 x 4 cm), and use that with a dedicated compact flash card reader. That all makes for a fairly quick round trip of photo shooting to serving up on a web site (craigslist or ebay).


Daniel Koller
 

Ditto here.  I haven't had a serious bidding war on any item I've sold in years either.  I financed my hobby budget in grad school by selling old junk vacuum equipment and old Tek stuff and it used to be worthwhile to sell it.  As e-bay popularity increased, I suppose more competition grew, and also large surplus sellers came on-board, which is great for buyers, not so much for individual sellers.  Fees also increased, and for that matter, shipping is through the roof now.    
But I also don't "bid" now.  I always "snipe" (with auctionsniper).   That lets me think about the price I think the item is "worth" and what I am willing to pay for it in a calm, rational environment.  I set the desired price and walk away.  If I get it for a low bid, great, and if I go to the maximum, at least I don't end up regretting it immediately.
  Dan

On Monday, June 11, 2018, 2:14:00 PM EDT, Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote:

A bidding war hasn't happened to any of my listings for years, but yeah, it's so much fun to watch!  These days, it's usually only rare items that end up in bidding wars, but certain categories see more activity than others.  Another fun event is having two or more people snipe with "silly" bids at the last second.
-Dave

      From: Dennis Tillman W7PF <@Dennis_Tillman_W7pF>
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale
 
Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay,

There is some misunderstanding about prices on Ebay: Newbies and or sellers with stores frequently list their items with arbitrarily high prices. Sometimes they simply look at current listings and price accordingly.

BUT what really matters is what these items SOLD for. To find that out you have to look carefully through the completed listings for the auctions that were successfully concluded.

That will tell you the true price the market thinks this is worth.

If there is an outlier in the completed auctions that sold for a truly outrageous price you have to look at the bidding that took place. It was probably between two newbies that didn't understand how Ebay works and they kept outbidding each other by a few dollars each time. If you are a seller you always hope your item will be bid up by newbies to absurd prices. It is lots of fun to watch one of these bidding wars take place and wonder where it will end.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gardner Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:43 AM

On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote:
I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering
even if some of the chips are dead.  I do have to chuckle since I have
some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the
boxes I've inherited from others.  Never really considered the
possibility that any of it had value.  "There's gold in them there
drawers!!!!"

Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be
unused. Look at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and
"germanium transistor"



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator


Dave Seiter
 

I can't count the number of times I've boxed up something and then ended up stuffing the whole thing into a flat rate padded envelope to save 50% or more on shipping.  Keeping shipping down is the biggest challenges these days.
-Dave

From: John Griessen <@jgriessen>
Lots of things can go in flat rate USPS envelopes stuffed to resemble a football.  -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


Dave Seiter
 

When I first started selling, just about anything listed was sold in the first or second attempt.  I stopped selling for a long time because they dinged you for everything, and the huge volume of items meant that some things just wouldn't sell- I was losing money.  It wasn't until you could list for free that I went back to selling.
-Dave

From: Daniel Koller via Groups.Io <kaboomdk=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: "TekScopes@groups.io" <TekScopes@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale

Ditto here.  I haven't had a serious bidding war on any item I've sold in years either.  I financed my hobby budget in grad school by selling old junk vacuum equipment and old Tek stuff and it used to be worthwhile to sell it.  As e-bay popularity increased, I suppose more competition grew, and also large surplus sellers came on-board, which is great for buyers, not so much for individual sellers.  Fees also increased, and for that matter, shipping is through the roof now.    
But I also don't "bid" now.  I always "snipe" (with auctionsniper).   That lets me think about the price I think the item is "worth" and what I am willing to pay for it in a calm, rational environment.  I set the desired price and walk away.  If I get it for a low bid, great, and if I go to the maximum, at least I don't end up regretting it immediately.
  Dan

    On Monday, June 11, 2018, 2:14:00 PM EDT, Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote:

A bidding war hasn't happened to any of my listings for years, but yeah, it's so much fun to watch!  These days, it's usually only rare items that end up in bidding wars, but certain categories see more activity than others.  Another fun event is having two or more people snipe with "silly" bids at the last second.
-Dave

      From: Dennis Tillman W7PF <@Dennis_Tillman_W7pF>
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT: Old ICs for sale
 
Hi Tom, and everyone who bids on Ebay,

There is some misunderstanding about prices on Ebay: Newbies and or sellers with stores frequently list their items with arbitrarily high prices. Sometimes they simply look at current listings and price accordingly.

BUT what really matters is what these items SOLD for. To find that out you have to look carefully through the completed listings for the auctions that were successfully concluded.

That will tell you the true price the market thinks this is worth.

If there is an outlier in the completed auctions that sold for a truly outrageous price you have to look at the bidding that took place. It was probably between two newbies that didn't understand how Ebay works and they kept outbidding each other by a few dollars each time. If you are a seller you always hope your item will be bid up by newbies to absurd prices. It is lots of fun to watch one of these bidding wars take place and wonder where it will end.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gardner Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:43 AM

On 11/06/18 05:19, G Hopper wrote:
I suppose that for $55 there probably is some value in that offering
even if some of the chips are dead.  I do have to chuckle since I have
some of the same stuff as NOS in my parts drawers and amongst the
boxes I've inherited from others.  Never really considered the
possibility that any of it had value.  "There's gold in them there
drawers!!!!"

Perhaps more than you might think - and they don't even have to be
unused. Look at the fleabay prices for "mustard capacitors" and
"germanium transistor"



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator