Re: FS: Tek scope, HP LA, and Electronic components!
Richard R. Pope
Hello all,
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I forgot to put in that I live in Reedsburg, WI 53959 which is near the WI Dells. Sorry about that! GOD Bless and Thanks, rich!
On 11/21/2020 4:29 AM, Richard R. Pope wrote:
Hello all,
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Open Filament on scope
*Many thanks for all the replies from members.
* *I checked the pins to make sure that they were soldered and even re-soldered them carefully.* *I know it all depends on what kind of open there is and where it might be located.* *I will have to let all know if I am successful or not.* *My fondest thanks to all responders. You folks are the best!! A great group of helpers!! *
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Re: Multi-section electrolytic capacitors from Hayseed
Dave Daniel
I've purchased from Hayseed Hamfest multiple times. My purchases have been for Heathkit gear.
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I don't know if there are many Tektronix instruments that use multi-section caps. But for Heathkit replacements, Hayseed Hamfest has been invaluable. DaveD
On 11/21/2020 5:01 AM, John Shadbolt wrote:
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FS: Tek scope, HP LA, and Electronic components!
Richard R. Pope
Hello all,
I have probably developed cancer. I can't get in for treatment. I have enough lumps in my body that it probably wouldn't make a difference. So more than likely I am dying. I am asking for everyone's help. I am selling off all of my processions and simplifying my life before I die. I don't want to see this stuff end up in the landfill. Please help out a dying old man? I have a Tektronix 465B Scope with four probes for sale. A HP 16700A LA with 5 16555D LA cards and all of the cables. There is a 16701B Expansion box and the interconnect cable. There is an external SCSI drive box with a CD rom and a ST318417N drive in it. There are a bunch of micro probes for the LA. A monitor, keyboard, mouse, manuals, and CDs. I also have a very large collection of electronic components in over 40 storage cabinets. There are also a lot of books on electronics. I am asking $250 plus the shipping on the scope. This shipping won't be cheap. $500 plus shipping for the LA. Again shipping will be very expensive. It will take five boxes to ship the LA. I will deliver the scope and/or LA to any where in the lower 48 for the cost of shipping. $500 for the components, cabinets, and books. Shipping is not possible. So it it have to be local pick up. Bring a truck and trailer. PP F&F, Cashiers Check, or Postal Money Order. Please contact me off list. GOD Bless and Thanks, rich! Happy Thanksgiving!
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Multi-section electrolytic capacitors from Hayseed
Hi,
Are there many Tek units that use multi-section electrolytic capacitors? I came across this company that have a range of new caps available and can make custom orders, I've not used them but would welcome any feedback: https://hayseedhamfest.com/ Regards, John
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Re: 465M Wave Forms
Harrison
Thank you for the clarification Dave. The markings on the different BNCs on the back of the 465M is very clear and descriptive (matching the labeling used in the Wave Form section of the manual). I must ask just to be completely clear; When you refer to the "A EXT Trigger" of the 460A, in your answer, are you referring to the single BNC on the back of the 460A labeled "Aux Trigger/Ext Clock +6V. I ask because scope use is not a norm for me and I don't want to damage either scope by a wrong hook up. Also, do or should I have an attenuator or such in the cable hook up to protect either scope?
Finally, what is the intent of the 50 Ohm cable between the 465M and the 460A (Between the scope under test and the test scope.)? If you have the probe on channel 1 of the test scope and are probing the scope under test, what is the 50 Ohm cable doing for you? I don't question the instruction I just am trying to understand why the set up is this way. Harrison N1FAM
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Looking for manual for Tektronix 1107 DC power supply for 2000 series
Hi everyone. I hope you are all doing well. I recently purchased a Tektronix 1107 dc supply for 2200, 2400 and 2300 scopes. It’s kind of neat, mounts directly on the back of the scope. I tested it today and it looks like it is working. However I would like to have some sort of manual. If anyone has one or knows where I can get one please I would appreciate knowing. Thanks and stay safe please.
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Re: Broken Tektronix scopes free
barry.ballenger@...
i would be interested in the 2236. what seems to be the problem(s) with
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it? Let me know what you need to send it my way.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:28 PM Walter Hunter <jonde720d@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Open filament on CRT
SCMenasian
Typing mishap: The last sentence should start "It survived" not "I survived"
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Re: Open filament on CRT
SCMenasian
This reminds me of a similar situation I encountered when I was a graduate student. My thesis advisor was collaborating with an industrial lab in another state; he got me a Summer job there. I was to get an apparatus they had built operational and, then bring it back to the university for my actual dissertation work. This was no insignificant apparatus. It was a masterpiece of glass blowing, etc - much more complex and larger than a typical CRT.
Unfortunately, when I tried to fire it up, the filament circuit was found to be open. It hadn't survived bakeout. The filament-to-support connections had been hard soldered. One of them opened up during the bakeout. Opening it up for repair would have consumed the entire Summer, a prospect which I didn't relish. I surmised that the bakeout had produced some corrosion or a break in one of the hard solder joints. My proposed solution was to use a Tesla coil (one of those 50 kV hand held units used in Physics labs for finding vacuum leaks, starting arcs, etc.) to zap the filament circuit (grounding one end and hitting the other with a spark). Amazingly, it worked. Whatever was impeding current flow was blown away and/or a functioning connection was made. The apparatus became useful. I survived the trip back to the university and I used it there for over a year and served its intended purpose without further filament mishaps.
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Re: Looking into Tekscopes
This was a SPAMMER. I didn't catch him before he was able to post this message. He has been removed from our membership and this message has been removed from our archives.
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Ignore this. Dennis Tillman W7pF
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From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Colin Herbert via groups.io Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 1:09 AM To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Looking into Tekscopes What do you mean by "getting Tekscopes"? If you are hoping to become a member of the Forum, you need to write a sort-of resume/justification and send it to the Moderator. If you mean buying Tektronix oscilloscopes, search eBay. Colin. -----Original Message----- From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of michal.gordon via groups.io Sent: 18 November 2020 19:22 To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: [TekScopes] Looking into Tekscopes Hi everyone. I'm looking into getting Tekscopes. Any thoughts or tips on how to go about it? Thanks, Michal -- Dennis Tillman W7pF TekScopes Moderator
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Re: Open filament on CRT
Jean-Paul
Hello: Stored energy of a capacitor charged to 100s of volts can be lethal, use precautions
Jon
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Re: LAST CALL for Peter Keller's Book and Current Orders I have
Colin Herbert
If the other two people in the UK that are interested in this book live
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fairly near to London, I might be amenable to having all three sent to my address and then pass them on. It is just possible, I suppose, that these folk work in London and could even call at my house. I live in Wimbledon Park and am close to the All-England Tennis and Croquet Club. I might also be happy to post them on, packaging and post at cost. Other than that, I am quite prepared to pay the shipping for the one book that I have asked for. Colin.
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From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Tillman W7pF Sent: 19 November 2020 22:25 To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: [TekScopes] LAST CALL for Peter Keller's Book and Current Orders I have This is a last call for Peter Keller's fabulous book. I will accept orders until Friday evening my time. At present I have orders for 75 books. At that time I will publish the final list of people I have received an order from and I will explain how to make payment. Below are the people who have been placed on Peter's book order. Please confirm your name is on this list. If you have missed all of the excitement here is a summary Pete Keller (from Tektronix) is prolific writer about cathode ray tubes and many other kinds of display technologies. He published a very detailed book on the subject in 1991 which I highly recommend. The book title is: "The Cathode Ray Tube, Technology, History, and Applications", Peter A. Keller. 320 p. ISBN 0-9631559-0-3; TK7871.73.K46; 621.3815'42-DC20 I paid $70 for my copy years ago when I bought it from Peter. There is a copy of his book currently on eBay listed for $650!!! Peter's book is still available in hard cover and he has copies of it to sell to us. Because of recent interest in it from TekScopes members I went out on a limb and asked Peter if a discount would be available for our members if we bought enough books to make it worth his while and if I did all the work for him. He agreed and offered our members a huge discount. The cost will be $30 + shipping. I am hoping I can even get him to autograph each copy. I promised Peter I would keep his effort to an absolute minimum by collecting the names and addresses, payments which I would send to him in one lump sum; then when he ships all the books to me I will mail each book for him. The cost for a book going anywhere in the US is $30 + $4 Media Rate Postage + $3 for supplies and my time. The total will be $37.00. The cost for orders overseas will be $30 + approximately $35 for Flat Rate International Priority Mail (this includes tracking). If you want a copy of Peter's book send your mailing address to me OFF-LIST at dennis at ridesoft dot com. INCLUDE YOUR ADDRESS. These are the orders I have as of 2:15PM (UTC-08:00) Coordinated Universal Time-08. If your name is not on this list then I missed your order (my apologies) so resend it with your address. UNITED STATES ORDERS Eric Spendel Fairfield, OH 45014 Dave Daniel Mims, FL 32754 Chuck Azzalina Perkasie, PA 18944 Jean Paul Novato, CA 94947 Kurt Rosenfeld Ossining, NY 10562 Vince Vielhaber K8ZW Oxford, MI 48371 Stan Perkins N6BYU San Diego, CA 92109-2348 Bruce Lane Kent, WA 98030-8803 Mark Huffstutter Seattle, WA 98115 Joe Rigdon Oviedo, FL 32765 Jeffrey S. Dutky Silver Spring, MD 20901 Larry Snyder Springboro, OH 45066-9761 Byron Hayes Jr. WA6ATN Toluca Lake, CA 91602-2914 Michael Drum Fanwood, NJ 07023-1008 Jack Reynolds Howell, MI, 48843 Phil Erickson Clinton, MA 01510 Edward Oscarson New Hartford, CT 06057 Steve Berg Casselberry, FL 32707 Charles Daves Aurora, CO 80015-1422 Chuck Harris Damascus, MD 20872 John Malec IV Northglenn, CO 80234 Marvin Moss Marietta, GA 30064 Tom Norman Escalon, CA 95320 Bill Lavick WA2SMF Edwards, NY 13635 Jeff Frantzen Olathe, KS 66062-3693 Glenn Little Goose Creek, SC 29445 Mark Vincent N. Chesterfield, VA 23236 Lance Lieberman Albertson, NY 11507-1022 Steven Horii Bryn Mawr, PA 19010-1226 Charles Nalley Burien, WA 98166 Carl Miles Rio Rancho, NM 87124 Larry Schneider Otis, ME 04605-7652 Dennis McCreery Bellevue, WA 98008 Tim Laing Lima, OH 45801-4644 Chris Wilkson Detroit, MI 48206 Timothy Koeth Brandywine, MD 20613 John Griessen Albuquerque, NM 87107 Greg Muir Great Falls, MT 59405-3144 Kurt Swanson Wilton, CA 95693-9765 Bruce Gentry KA2IVY Mattydale, NY 13211 Peter Brown Broomfield, CO 80023 Tim Pierce Cottage Grove, OR 97424 Bob Darlington N3XKB Los Alamos, NM 87544 Hugh Vartanian Littleton, MA 01460 Richard Brittingham W4MCD Edenton, NC 27932 Jim Rawlings AF6VF Livermore, CA 94550 Monte Meredith Reno, NV 89511 Chris Loggans Haymarket, VA 20169 Steve Bates Concord, MA 01742 John Glass, O'Brien Electric Dallas, OR 97338 INTERNATIONAL ORDERS Sigurdur Asgeirsson CANADA Shaun Merrigan CANADA Bill Perkins, PEARL, Inc. CANADA Dan Gajanovic CANADA Andy Guelzow VA7NNM CANADA Simon Jarman FRANCE Christoph F. Bruggaier GERMANY Heinz Breuer GERMANY Jan Wuesten GERMANY Red Dot Finder THE NETHERLANDS Leo Potjewijd THE NETHERLANDS Mario Giganti I1CWZ ITALY Colin Herbert UNITED KINGDOM Alan Ainslie UNITED KINGDOM Robert Angell UNITED KINGDOM Thomas S. Knutsen NORWAY Jared Cabot JAPAN Gangyi, Le SINGAPORE
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Re: Looking into Tekscopes
Colin Herbert
What do you mean by "getting Tekscopes"? If you are hoping to become a member of the Forum, you need to write a sort-of resume/justification and send it to the Moderator. If you mean buying Tektronix oscilloscopes, search eBay.
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Colin.
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From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of michal.gordon via groups.io Sent: 18 November 2020 19:22 To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: [TekScopes] Looking into Tekscopes Hi everyone. I'm looking into getting Tekscopes. Any thoughts or tips on how to go about it? Thanks, Michal
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Re: Open filament on CRT
Ed Breya
Also, Marvin, if this is not rhetorical, and you are contemplating an actual, specific CRT attempt, you should mention what it is, and the situation, then let it stew for a while. You may get some feedback from others that have direct experience with, and knowledge of, particular CRTs. There is a certain amount of finesse that can be applied to improve chances of success, depending on the details.
Ed
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Re: Open filament on CRT
Frank DuVal
And, if the CRT has pins that are over the wires coming out of the glass, resolder the pins. I've fixed several smaller tubes that way over the years.
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Frank
On 11/19/2020 11:40 PM, Ed Breya via groups.io wrote:
I agree - nothing to lose. BUT, be sure that's the problem first. If you're assuming the heater is open because the CRT doesn't light up, or measuring the heater through the wiring and socket, you don't really know for sure. Before such a drastic action, measure the heater right at the CRT base pins to be sure. Then there's nothing to lose.
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Re: Open filament on CRT
Ed Breya
I agree - nothing to lose. BUT, be sure that's the problem first. If you're assuming the heater is open because the CRT doesn't light up, or measuring the heater through the wiring and socket, you don't really know for sure. Before such a drastic action, measure the heater right at the CRT base pins to be sure. Then there's nothing to lose.
Ed
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Re: Difference between a 475 and a 475A
Tom Lee
Yes, that's basically it. An impulse and a step both have spectra that extend to infinity, so both will exercise the channel over an infinite bandwidth. The requirements for a perfect time-domain response are a flat gain to all frequencies, and also a phase response that varies linearly with frequency. That latter criterion is just a high-falutin' way of saying that you want all Fourier components to experience the same time delay.
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Real amplifiers roll off and shift phase nonlinearly, of course, so you want to approximate the above two criteria to the best possible extent. If you focus on only one, the other tends to suffer. Scope designers face a tough challenge, and Tek's engineers mastered the art of designing amplifier chains with remarkably well-behaved response over a broader band than others thought possible with the technologies of the day. The tricks (oops, I mean methods) they came up with remain relevant to this day. -- Cheers, Tom -- Prof. Thomas H. Lee Allen Ctr., Rm. 205 350 Jane Stanford Way Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-4070 http://www-smirc.stanford.edu
On 11/19/2020 18:55, Jeff Dutky wrote:
Dr. Lee, and Harvey White,
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Re: Open filament on CRT
Tom Lee
This is a time-honored desperation strategy that dates back to the early incandescent bulb era. It even shows up as a question in one of Gernsback's very first publications from 1908.
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The short answer is that there is no harm in trying because the crt is already dead, so there's nothing to lose. One must expect disappointment to be the probable outcome, though. -- Prof. Thomas H. Lee Allen Ctr., Rm. 205 350 Jane Stanford Way Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-4070 http://www-smirc.stanford.edu
On 11/19/2020 18:53, Marvin Moss wrote:
*I wonder if anyone has tried a large capacitor and high voltage to weld an open filament in a CRT?*
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Re: Open filament on CRT
Hi Marvin,
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This is one of those things that can't make the situation worse and has a small chance of making the situation better for little or no cost. Go for it and tell us what happens. You have nothing to lose. Dennis Tillman W7pF
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From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of greenboxmaven via groups.io Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 7:11 PM To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Open filament on CRT What you describe was often used as a last resort to salvage a television picture tube. It is very unlikely to work if the break is in the middle of the heater winding. It did sometimes work when the end of the heater wire had broken loose from the strap or lead that carried the current to it. Not burned in two, but hanging loose. It was not always a permanent repair, thermal stresses to the weld would often cause it to break loose again. A similar technique was used to weld a loose connection back to the cathode cup or first grid. People have been zapping bad jugs for decades, success and longevity are very unpredictable. Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY On 11/19/20 9:53 PM, Marvin Moss wrote: *I wonder if anyone has tried a large capacitor and high voltage to -- Dennis Tillman W7pF TekScopes Moderator
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