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Re: 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin

Brendan
 

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 06:31 PM, Harvey White wrote:


On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 17:29:59 -0700, you wrote:

Crap, now you guys have added to my wishlist the 7D20 and 7A13!  Oops, I
spoke too soon, the 7A13 is already on the wishlist!
7D20 has a GPIB connection, so I gotta have one someday.  The wife will
question my impeccable logic...
Jim
<evil laugh>


Now, also consider, if you do some digital, the 7A42 is a 4 channel
plugin with combinational logic triggering. It is useful if you don't
have a separate logic analyzer. Having said that, I *do* have a logic
analyzer, and I've never used mine (the 7A42).

There's essentially three directions you can go into with electronics
design. 1) digital 2) RF 3) general purpose.

For Digital:

7A26 (a pair of them), 7D20 (yes, and even though you have a storage
scope, a digital storage scope provides a longer lasting trace). 7D02
*if* you deal with microprocessors and they're old ones (anything
newer than an AVR and including an AVR, Pic, etc... any
microcontroller, a 7D02 is likely to be less useful.) 7A42.

for RF: Consider any of the 7L spectrum analyzers depending on the
frequencies you want to play with. Not quite my field, and there are
other analyzers out there with better specs, ask the RF types.

General: Here's where the 7A13 comes in, for the low level,
moderately low frequency differential measurements (ripple on a power
supply, etc.) The 7A22 has different bandwidth filters, and less neat
offset capability. The 7A26 allows two more analog channels. 7A18
can also be considered if you only want 75 Mhz bandwidth.

When doing digital, you often want to look at more than four signals.
At this point, a logic analyzer is really your best bet (and I assume
all the signals are digital in nature). As a separate piece of
equipment, you'd want one that has at least 32 channels, and yes, I do
use that many. (monitoring *all* the ports on an ARM processor, with
one that has 4 16 bit ports, well, you need 64 data inputs. Even
though the processor I use (format wise) doesn't have a complete set
of the last 16 bits in a port, it still takes 16 bits capability, so
64 bits).

When doing RF: If you're a ham, then anything up to 1.2 Ghz covers
most of the bands you'd use, but above that means you're doing some
specialized (IMHO) microwave work. YMMV on this.

If you're doing Digital, or general purpose, and you are doing either
B, G, or N WiFi, or you're doing NRF24xxx 2.4 GHz RF, you may want a
spectrum analyzer that goes to about 3 GHz, but certainly takes in the
2.4 to 2.5 Ghz band. There are ways of working around this, but
still, much nicer.

General purpose has the fewest real specialized plugins, but the 7a13
(and mine are all digital because I *like* digital) are useful, as are
the 7A22. Again, the 7A22 has a whole host of bandwidth filters to
allow you to look at a specific frequency. There are HF filters and
low frequency filters so you could look at a specific bandwith in the
face of other frequencies, and still get a good idea.

There's other stuff out there, too, I'm sure.

I do a lot of digital, some general purpose, and not a lot of RF.

The 7904 I have is very useful, as is the Agilent 16702B logic
analyzer.

My more or less favorite load on a 7904 is a 7A26, 7D12 with an M2
plugin (sampling), a 7D15 in a horizontal slot, and a 7B92A in the
last horizontal slot. That, of course, varies.

Harvey




Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Raymond Domp Frank
<@Raymond> Date: 9/5/18 4:49 PM (GMT-08:00) To:
TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] 7K series - Conceptual question -
What's the 3rd most useful plugin
On Thu, Sep  6, 2018 at 12:14 AM, Harvey White wrote:


You can likely feed
the counter from the vertical signal output
Yes, you can. For a permanent setup, like Fabio seems to want, I wouldn't
like a BNC plug in the socket on the front all the time but a counter *is*
very useful.
A 7D20, effectively converting the 7623A into a digital 'scope with its own
digital storage, isn't a good match for the analog storage functionality of
the 7623A. In a 7603, a 7D20 makes for a very nice 'scope. The 7D20 is very
much "analog-like".

Raymond




I'm not a "long time user" of the 7k series but I do like the 7CT1N.


Re: 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin

Harvey White
 

On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 17:29:59 -0700, you wrote:

Crap, now you guys have added to my wishlist the 7D20 and 7A13!  Oops, I spoke too soon, the 7A13 is already on the wishlist!
7D20 has a GPIB connection, so I gotta have one someday.  The wife will question my impeccable logic...
Jim
<evil laugh>


Now, also consider, if you do some digital, the 7A42 is a 4 channel
plugin with combinational logic triggering. It is useful if you don't
have a separate logic analyzer. Having said that, I *do* have a logic
analyzer, and I've never used mine (the 7A42).

There's essentially three directions you can go into with electronics
design. 1) digital 2) RF 3) general purpose.

For Digital:

7A26 (a pair of them), 7D20 (yes, and even though you have a storage
scope, a digital storage scope provides a longer lasting trace). 7D02
*if* you deal with microprocessors and they're old ones (anything
newer than an AVR and including an AVR, Pic, etc... any
microcontroller, a 7D02 is likely to be less useful.) 7A42.

for RF: Consider any of the 7L spectrum analyzers depending on the
frequencies you want to play with. Not quite my field, and there are
other analyzers out there with better specs, ask the RF types.

General: Here's where the 7A13 comes in, for the low level,
moderately low frequency differential measurements (ripple on a power
supply, etc.) The 7A22 has different bandwidth filters, and less neat
offset capability. The 7A26 allows two more analog channels. 7A18
can also be considered if you only want 75 Mhz bandwidth.

When doing digital, you often want to look at more than four signals.
At this point, a logic analyzer is really your best bet (and I assume
all the signals are digital in nature). As a separate piece of
equipment, you'd want one that has at least 32 channels, and yes, I do
use that many. (monitoring *all* the ports on an ARM processor, with
one that has 4 16 bit ports, well, you need 64 data inputs. Even
though the processor I use (format wise) doesn't have a complete set
of the last 16 bits in a port, it still takes 16 bits capability, so
64 bits).

When doing RF: If you're a ham, then anything up to 1.2 Ghz covers
most of the bands you'd use, but above that means you're doing some
specialized (IMHO) microwave work. YMMV on this.

If you're doing Digital, or general purpose, and you are doing either
B, G, or N WiFi, or you're doing NRF24xxx 2.4 GHz RF, you may want a
spectrum analyzer that goes to about 3 GHz, but certainly takes in the
2.4 to 2.5 Ghz band. There are ways of working around this, but
still, much nicer.

General purpose has the fewest real specialized plugins, but the 7a13
(and mine are all digital because I *like* digital) are useful, as are
the 7A22. Again, the 7A22 has a whole host of bandwidth filters to
allow you to look at a specific frequency. There are HF filters and
low frequency filters so you could look at a specific bandwith in the
face of other frequencies, and still get a good idea.

There's other stuff out there, too, I'm sure.

I do a lot of digital, some general purpose, and not a lot of RF.

The 7904 I have is very useful, as is the Agilent 16702B logic
analyzer.

My more or less favorite load on a 7904 is a 7A26, 7D12 with an M2
plugin (sampling), a 7D15 in a horizontal slot, and a 7B92A in the
last horizontal slot. That, of course, varies.

Harvey




Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Raymond Domp Frank <@Raymond> Date: 9/5/18 4:49 PM (GMT-08:00) To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin
On Thu, Sep  6, 2018 at 12:14 AM, Harvey White wrote:


You can likely feed
the counter from the vertical signal output
Yes, you can. For a permanent setup, like Fabio seems to want, I wouldn't like a BNC plug in the socket on the front all the time but a counter *is* very useful.
A 7D20, effectively converting the 7623A into a digital 'scope with its own digital storage, isn't a good match for the analog storage functionality of the 7623A. In a 7603, a 7D20 makes for a very nice 'scope. The 7D20 is very much "analog-like".

Raymond





Re: 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin

Artekmedia <manuals@...>
 

Jim

Bite the bullet and get her a gift certificate from a major shoe store 8^)

I bought a top of the line $2000 radio once ...cost me a matching diamond ring ...worth every penny

Dave
NR1DX
manuals@...

On 9/5/2018 8:29 PM, Jim Ford wrote:
Crap, now you guys have added to my wishlist the 7D20 and 7A13!  Oops, I spoke too soon, the 7A13 is already on the wishlist!
7D20 has a GPIB connection, so I gotta have one someday.  The wife will question my impeccable logic...
Jim


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Raymond Domp Frank <@Raymond> Date: 9/5/18 4:49 PM (GMT-08:00) To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin
On Thu, Sep  6, 2018 at 12:14 AM, Harvey White wrote:

You can likely feed
the counter from the vertical signal output
Yes, you can. For a permanent setup, like Fabio seems to want, I wouldn't like a BNC plug in the socket on the front all the time but a counter *is* very useful.
A 7D20, effectively converting the 7623A into a digital 'scope with its own digital storage, isn't a good match for the analog storage functionality of the 7623A. In a 7603, a 7D20 makes for a very nice 'scope. The 7D20 is very much "analog-like".

Raymond




--
Dave
Manuals@...
www.ArtekManuals.com


Re: Jon BATTERS

 

And for those that do not know Grants Pass…………..there can ONLY be one Jon Batters. It is a very tiny space.

On Sep 5, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Bill Sudbrink <wh.sudbrink@...> wrote:

I’m very sorry to report that his post on 11/24/2017 is signed:

“Jon Batters, Grants Pass, Or.”

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io <mailto:TekScopes@groups.io> [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io <mailto:TekScopes@groups.io>] On Behalf Of EricJ via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:50 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io <mailto:TekScopes@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS

Damn. That's not good. I remember talking to Jon a few times, really hope it's not the same guy, but it's looking grim.
--Eric
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Bill Sudbrink <wh.sudbrink@...> Date: 9/5/18 4:33 PM (GMT-06:00) To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS
I don't often post to this list but I do read and archive it. I just
searched my archive. Jon Batters last posted to this list on 8/12/2018.
There is no signature on that post, but previous posts from the same email
address are signed:

"Jon Batters, Oregon"


-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis
Tillman W7PF
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 5:18 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS

Hi Rolynn,

There are five Jon Batters listed as members. One is in the UK.
I would guess that the other four entries are probably separate email
entries setup by the same person for some reason of his.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: ROLYNN PRECHTL K7DFW
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS
<SNIP>
Jon Batters was a contributing member of this group.
The information was for those who knew him and care.
Rolynn



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator














Re: 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin

Jim Ford
 

Crap, now you guys have added to my wishlist the 7D20 and 7A13!  Oops, I spoke too soon, the 7A13 is already on the wishlist!
7D20 has a GPIB connection, so I gotta have one someday.  The wife will question my impeccable logic...
Jim


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------From: Raymond Domp Frank <@Raymond> Date: 9/5/18 4:49 PM (GMT-08:00) To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin
On Thu, Sep  6, 2018 at 12:14 AM, Harvey White wrote:


You can likely feed
the counter from the vertical signal output
Yes, you can. For a permanent setup, like Fabio seems to want, I wouldn't like a BNC plug in the socket on the front all the time but a counter *is* very useful.
A 7D20, effectively converting the 7623A into a digital 'scope with its own digital storage, isn't a good match for the analog storage functionality of the 7623A. In a 7603, a 7D20 makes for a very nice 'scope. The 7D20 is very much "analog-like".

Raymond


Re: Jon BATTERS

EricJ
 

Wow. Thank you for that. Very sorry to hear that. Hopefully more information will be in the news.
--Eric
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------From: Bill Sudbrink <wh.sudbrink@...> Date: 9/5/18 6:15 PM (GMT-06:00) To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS
I’m very sorry to report that his post on 11/24/2017 is signed:

“Jon Batters, Grants Pass, Or.”

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of EricJ via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:50 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS

Damn. That's not good. I remember talking to Jon a few times, really hope it's not the same guy, but it's looking grim.
--Eric
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Bill Sudbrink <wh.sudbrink@...> Date: 9/5/18  4:33 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS
I don't often post to this list but I do read and archive it.  I just
searched my archive.  Jon Batters last posted to this list on 8/12/2018.
There is no signature on that post, but previous posts from the same email
address are signed:

"Jon Batters, Oregon"


-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis
Tillman W7PF
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 5:18 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS

Hi Rolynn,

There are five Jon Batters listed as members. One is in the UK.
I would guess that the other four entries are probably separate email
entries setup by the same person for some reason of his.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: ROLYNN PRECHTL K7DFW
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS
<SNIP>
Jon Batters was a contributing member of this group.
The information was for those who knew him and care.
Rolynn



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator


Re: 5B10N with special blanking mode

Jim Ford
 

No, but I noticed the one for sale also has a green banana jack for the external input at the lower left corner instead of the BNC that my 5B10N has.  Mine is serial number B046416.  Don't know if that helps. 
Jim


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-------- Original message --------From: Kurt Rosenfeld <kurt.harlem@...> Date: 9/4/18 3:18 PM (GMT-08:00) To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: [TekScopes] 5B10N with special blanking mode
This 5B10N has a special blanking mode: https://www.ebay.com/itm/232916392120

Anybody know anything about it?


Re: 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin

 

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:14 AM, Harvey White wrote:


You can likely feed
the counter from the vertical signal output
Yes, you can. For a permanent setup, like Fabio seems to want, I wouldn't like a BNC plug in the socket on the front all the time but a counter *is* very useful.
A 7D20, effectively converting the 7623A into a digital 'scope with its own digital storage, isn't a good match for the analog storage functionality of the 7623A. In a 7603, a 7D20 makes for a very nice 'scope. The 7D20 is very much "analog-like".

Raymond


Re: Jon BATTERS

Bill Sudbrink
 

I’m very sorry to report that his post on 11/24/2017 is signed:

“Jon Batters, Grants Pass, Or.”

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of EricJ via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:50 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS

Damn. That's not good. I remember talking to Jon a few times, really hope it's not the same guy, but it's looking grim.
--Eric
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Bill Sudbrink <wh.sudbrink@...> Date: 9/5/18 4:33 PM (GMT-06:00) To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS
I don't often post to this list but I do read and archive it. I just
searched my archive. Jon Batters last posted to this list on 8/12/2018.
There is no signature on that post, but previous posts from the same email
address are signed:

"Jon Batters, Oregon"


-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis
Tillman W7PF
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 5:18 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS

Hi Rolynn,

There are five Jon Batters listed as members. One is in the UK.
I would guess that the other four entries are probably separate email
entries setup by the same person for some reason of his.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: ROLYNN PRECHTL K7DFW
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS
<SNIP>
Jon Batters was a contributing member of this group.
The information was for those who knew him and care.
Rolynn



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator


Re: 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin

 

Hi Fabio,

Raymond is partially correct.

A 7D14 does not measure period. It is strictly a high frequency (512MHz) counter.
The 7D15 is a universal counter / timer. As such it is far more flexible. It will automatically monitor the trigger signal if it is in a horizontal slot but it CAN also be used in a vertical or slot by connecting the signal being measured by the vertical plugin to the A or B input of the 7D15.

Your choice would depend on what you want to do. Several people have recommended the 7A13. I can add one more important who has told me on several occasions that he thinks the 7A13 is the most useful plugin. That would be the design engineer of the 7A16A, 7A18, 7A24, 7A25 (not produced), and 7A26 plugins, and the 7854 scope.

I like the 7A13 also, and, like you, I was annoyed for many years with the empty slot in my 7704A. I solved the empty slot a long time ago. Unfortunately, I didn't know when to stop.

If you purchase a 7A13 make sure to get one of the digital ones. The plastic used to make the gears in the mechanical 7A13 expand over time and crack off their axle or jam up. This can't be fixed.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Raymond Domp Frank
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 2:58 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd
most useful plugin

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:48 PM, Harvey White wrote:

OK, then A 7D14 or a 7D15 will do time and period.
AFAIK, the counter plugins need to be put into a horizontal slot to show
the frequency of the signal into the vertical plugin.

How about a 7A13?

Or a 7CT1N for curve tracing? The 7B53A has the right (amplifier) mode
available.

Raymond



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator


Re: Jon BATTERS

EricJ
 

Damn. That's not good. I remember talking to Jon a few times, really hope it's not the same guy, but it's looking grim.
--Eric
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------From: Bill Sudbrink <wh.sudbrink@...> Date: 9/5/18 4:33 PM (GMT-06:00) To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS
I don't often post to this list but I do read and archive it.  I just
searched my archive.  Jon Batters last posted to this list on 8/12/2018.
There is no signature on that post, but previous posts from the same email
address are signed:

"Jon Batters, Oregon"


-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis
Tillman W7PF
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 5:18 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS

Hi Rolynn,

There are five Jon Batters listed as members. One is in the UK.
I would guess that the other four entries are probably separate email
entries setup by the same person for some reason of his.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: ROLYNN PRECHTL K7DFW
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS
<SNIP>
Jon Batters was a contributing member of this group.
The information was for those who knew him and care.
Rolynn



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator


Re: Jon BATTERS

 

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 01:04 PM, ROLYNN PRECHTL K7DFW wrote:


Jon Batters was a contributing member of this group.

The information was for those who knew him and care.

Obviously you do not.

Rolynn
Sorry, I didn't know that.. My perspective was from where one of the bigwigs here asked people not to contribute to off topic posts. He cited bandwidth and all, and made sense.

I understand now - and that there may have been foul play involved I guess ?

I hereby retract my previous statement. If someone in power would like to remove BOTH of my posts in this thread I understand completely.


Re: 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin

John Griessen
 

On 09/05/2018 04:40 PM, Fabio Trevisan wrote:
What's the 3rd 7K plugin that one can't miss?
7A13 diff amp


Re: 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin

Harvey White
 

On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 14:57:47 -0700, you wrote:

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:48 PM, Harvey White wrote:


OK, then A 7D14 or a 7D15 will do time and period.
AFAIK, the counter plugins need to be put into a horizontal slot to show the frequency of the signal into the vertical plugin.
That's correct if you want the trigger output from the vertical
plugins to be internally routed to the counter. You can likely feed
the counter from the vertical signal output, but under chop/alt you
won't get good stuff.

Still might be useful.


How about a 7A13?
Low frequency differential inputs

also consider a 7A22.



Or a 7CT1N for curve tracing? The 7B53A has the right (amplifier) mode available.
Yep, unfortunately, they seem to be rather expensive.


If you really wanted to go a bit farther, then perhaps a 7D20.

Harvey



Raymond



Re: 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin

 

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:48 PM, Harvey White wrote:


OK, then A 7D14 or a 7D15 will do time and period.
AFAIK, the counter plugins need to be put into a horizontal slot to show the frequency of the signal into the vertical plugin.

How about a 7A13?

Or a 7CT1N for curve tracing? The 7B53A has the right (amplifier) mode available.

Raymond


Re: 7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin

Harvey White
 

On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 14:40:22 -0700, you wrote:

Hello folks,
Here comes a conceptual question... "designed to provoke an emotional response"...
I have this 7623A for a while already, for which I have the essential pair of plugins... A 7A26 and a 7B53A.
Everything is working mostly fine, and I don't quite "need" anything else... but looking at that empty slot there, sort of makes me sad.
Looking at the myriad of 7k plugins, I can't decide which one to look for next, so, for you 7K series long time users, I ask:
What's the 3rd 7K plugin that one can't miss?
Of course I know it's relative and know it all depends on one's most prevalent area of interest, but I`m curious to know if one or two in particular stands above the crowd.
I'd look for another 7A26 to get four channels. That's thing one.


For a starter, having owned for a while a 464+DM44 (which I gave to a friend as a gift) I miss somewhat the Time and 1/Time functionality. Is there a plugin that fills that gap?
OK, then A 7D14 or a 7D15 will do time and period.

A 7D12 with the right plugin (M2, I think) will do a readout of a
waveform at a particular point (you need the B timegate to trigger the
plugin).

I'm assuming that you have on screen readouts, though.

Harvey



I look forward your opinions,

Rgrds,
Fabio





7K series - Conceptual question - What's the 3rd most useful plugin

Fabio Trevisan
 

Hello folks,
Here comes a conceptual question... "designed to provoke an emotional response"...
I have this 7623A for a while already, for which I have the essential pair of plugins... A 7A26 and a 7B53A.
Everything is working mostly fine, and I don't quite "need" anything else... but looking at that empty slot there, sort of makes me sad.
Looking at the myriad of 7k plugins, I can't decide which one to look for next, so, for you 7K series long time users, I ask:
What's the 3rd 7K plugin that one can't miss?
Of course I know it's relative and know it all depends on one's most prevalent area of interest, but I`m curious to know if one or two in particular stands above the crowd.

For a starter, having owned for a while a 464+DM44 (which I gave to a friend as a gift) I miss somewhat the Time and 1/Time functionality. Is there a plugin that fills that gap?

I look forward your opinions,

Rgrds,
Fabio


Re: Jon BATTERS

Bill Sudbrink
 

I don't often post to this list but I do read and archive it. I just
searched my archive. Jon Batters last posted to this list on 8/12/2018.
There is no signature on that post, but previous posts from the same email
address are signed:

"Jon Batters, Oregon"

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis
Tillman W7PF
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 5:18 PM
To: TekScopes@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS

Hi Rolynn,

There are five Jon Batters listed as members. One is in the UK.
I would guess that the other four entries are probably separate email
entries setup by the same person for some reason of his.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: ROLYNN PRECHTL K7DFW
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS
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Jon Batters was a contributing member of this group.
The information was for those who knew him and care.
Rolynn



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Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator


Re: Jon BATTERS

 

Hi Rolynn,

There are five Jon Batters listed as members. One is in the UK.
I would guess that the other four entries are probably separate email
entries setup by the same person for some reason of his.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: ROLYNN PRECHTL K7DFW
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Jon BATTERS
<SNIP>
Jon Batters was a contributing member of this group.
The information was for those who knew him and care.
Rolynn



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator


Re: Just as modern as the day it came out

Harvey White
 

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:22:53 -0700, you wrote:

I got to thinking today, how a 7603, 7A18, 7B53A etc looks as modern and
'cool' as it did the day it came on the marked.

Same will all of 7K
I have a tm5000 setup (with appropriate plugins) sitting next to a
7904, which is next to an HP16702B, They all look good to me.

On the other hand, I brought in a 7704 with a 7CT1N and other plugins
to a class to demonstrate transistor curve families.

One student, all of perhaps 20 years old, looked at the 7704 and said
"old tech".

Of course, for all I know, he'd say the same thing about an iPhone
(N-1) where N is the current one, of course.

Harvey



-pete Proud of having been there for a few of my years