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Re: need IC

Jeff W <vwthingy@...>
 

Standard low power TTL, yes. However, very obscure part; single J-K
flip flop. Out of production by the majors. So Digikey, Mouser, and
the like will not have it. Suggest you go to the surplus houses
looking for it.

You may have more luck with the straight SN7472N part. I doubt that
it will affect the operation of the circuit; you should check it out
to be sure.

I know the local surplus place here in San Diego, Gateway, carries
the SN7472N, but not the L version.

Jeff


Robert Morein wrote:
THe part number is standard low power TTL.
Possibly Digikey.
Hello,

I am having a problem finding a replacement IC for a Tektronix
212 scope.
The Tek part
number is 156-0280-00 and the MFR part number is SN74L72N. Does
anyone have
one or know where I can get this part?


Re: need IC

Robert Morein <morepub@...>
 

THe part number is standard low power TTL.
Possibly Digikey.

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Tulloss
To: 'TekScopes@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:17 AM
Subject: [TekScopes] need IC


Hello,

I am having a problem finding a replacement IC for a Tektronix 212 scope.
The Tek part
number is 156-0280-00 and the MFR part number is SN74L72N. Does anyone have
one or know where I can get this part?

Thanks,
Dan Tulloss


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need IC

DANNN31
 

Hello,

I am having a problem finding a replacement IC for a Tektronix 212 scope.
The Tek part
number is 156-0280-00 and the MFR part number is SN74L72N. Does anyone have
one or know where I can get this part?

Thanks,
Dan Tulloss


Which scope to buy?

rollsroyce1_92394
 

I've been looking at older Tek 465, 475, 485 series scopes on EBay,
and have a question for those of you in the know. I want to use the
scope to precisely adjust G2 voltages on my Mitsubishi widescreen
TV. The service manual procedure calls for adjusting them to 190V
using a scope set to 50V/div vertically and 2msec/div horizontally.
The manual further specifies the use of 10:1 probes. Before I cough
up the money for something that might not do the job and then turn
out to be nonreturnable, can one of the Tektronix scopes I mentioned
above do what I need? The specs I've seen don't really cover the
50V/division part of the requirement.

If these won't work, what older (read: inexpensive used) scope(s)
would?

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Royce


Re: Tek 310 and Looking for Advice

Craig Sawyers <c.sawyers@...>
 

The ripple values in the +300, +100, and -150 are 3 mV, 1 mV, and 3 mV,
respectively.
***Wow! That's pretty low ripple but the lower the better.
I've been fooled by this too - the numbers that Tek quote on the schematic
are peak-peak values, whereas what is measured on a meter is the rms value.
Perhaps that expains the difference?

Craig


Re: Tek 310 and Looking for Advice

Stan & Patricia Griffiths <w7ni@...>
 

OK Stan,

I have inserted some more comments below:

----- Original Message -----
From: "stan mcintosh" <mcintosh@triad.rr.com>
To: "Stan & Patricia Griffiths" <w7ni@easystreet.com>; "TekScopes"
<TekScopes@yahoogroups.com>; <morriso@vifm.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 310 and Looking for Advice


I have one more in a box, but I decided that an 83.5 volt drop
tube would work for checking out a few of the other items.
***That's probably close enough to make it work . . . I have a bunch of
5651's if we need one that's closer.

Are the power supplies "regulating"? That is, do the voltages remain
the
same as the line voltage is varied from 105 to 125 VAC? If you don't
have
a
metered variable line voltage source, now is the time to get one.
Here is where we see some differentiation. From 105-125VAC input: the
+100
V regulates right at 59V, the -150 regulates at -139, and the +300 swings
from 270 to 290. I don't have a metered line voltage source, but I do
have
a voltmeter for making such measurements when using a Variac input.
***A Variac with an outboard meter attached is good enough. You can vary
the line voltage and you know about how much it is. That's all you need.

How much "ripple" is on each supply? Is is about the amount stated in
the
manual calibration procedure? (10 millivolts)
The ripple values in the +300, +100, and -150 are 3 mV, 1 mV, and 3 mV,
respectively.
***Wow! That's pretty low ripple but the lower the better. It seems a
little strange to me that you could have such low ripple on the +300 supply
and it still varies from 270 to 290 when you vary the line voltage from 105
to 125 VAC . . .

As you try to set the -150 volt power supply on -150, can you vary it at
all
with the adjustment control or is it just at -140 all the time?
The adjustment does affect the -150 output voltage.
***But apparently you can't bring it up (or down) to -150. The next thing I
would check are the precision resistors on both ends of the -150 adjustment
pot. This would be R609 (56.5K) and R611 (68K). These need to be close to
those values. You should also check R669 (1meg) and R670 (490K) in the +300
supply for 1% accuracy and they need to be right on.

Bear in mind that the -150 and +300 supplies depend on each other and they
must both work for either one of them to work. Concentrate your efforts on
these two supplies and make them both work before you look anywhere else for
other problems. The +100 will not work unless both the -150 and +300 are
working but the +100 does not need to work for the -150 or +300 to work.

I'm going to have a cold one and pore over the power supply schematic,
again. However, I'm hoping that you'll effortlessly say, "Ah-Ha! You
obviously failed to check ..."

Again, thanks for all of the help. If this scope didn't have so much
character, and if I didn't really want it to be part of my bench, I'd go
back to working on my superhet.

Sincerely,
stan
***Well, Stan, the 310 and 310A are both gems in my opinion and well worth
the trouble to make them work.

Stan
w7ni@easystreet.com


Re: Question: R7903 Cap Rectifier Board 130v supply

Miroslav Pokorni
 

No, it was not MPS918, I got reference number wrong and from there part
number was wrong, too. The lamp driver that I started from is Q469, generic
number MPS6521, but this one is not a very sturdy device, either. The
continuos collector current is 100 mA, not very much for an incandescent
lamp cold filament surge. The basic device has gain between 150 and 600. I
wonder whether it was higher gain that was selection criteria.

Regards

Miroslav Pokorni

----- Original Message -----
From: "Denton, Adam (Exchange)" <adenton@bear.com>
To: <tekscopes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [TekScopes] Question: R7903 Cap Rectifier Board 130v supply


I find it mind boggling that transistors for driving lamps
are selected from a standard transistor type,
e.g. Q238 in 7904 is selected from MPS918.
Are you serious?!! MPS918 is used as a LAMP DRIVER??!!
My god, MPS918 is a rather delicate RF transistor
(VCEo = 15V, fT = 600MHz, Ic = 50mA). Just about the
LAST part I would ever choose to drive a lamp. Ouch!

To my mind that shows a lack of adult supervision in design
department.
Scary. Did they employ the same lackey in the design of
the now-infamous 24xx U-800? :-O

-Adam

From: Miroslav Pokorni [mailto:mpokorni2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:42 PM
To: tekscopes@yahoogroups.com; Joe Sleator
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Question: R7903 Cap Rectifier Board 130v supply

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Re: Question: R7903 Cap Rectifier Board 130v supply

John Miles <jmiles@...>
 

Read as a memo from some PHB at Tek: "We ordered WAY too many of those
darned MPS918s. Find a use for them."

-- jm

I find it mind boggling that transistors for driving lamps
are selected from a standard transistor type,
e.g. Q238 in 7904 is selected from MPS918.
Are you serious?!! MPS918 is used as a LAMP DRIVER??!!
My god, MPS918 is a rather delicate RF transistor
(VCEo = 15V, fT = 600MHz, Ic = 50mA). Just about the
LAST part I would ever choose to drive a lamp. Ouch!

To my mind that shows a lack of adult supervision in design
department.
Scary. Did they employ the same lackey in the design of
the now-infamous 24xx U-800? :-O

-Adam


Re: Question: R7903 Cap Rectifier Board 130v supply

Denton, Adam (Exchange)
 

I find it mind boggling that transistors for driving lamps
are selected from a standard transistor type,
e.g. Q238 in 7904 is selected from MPS918.
Are you serious?!! MPS918 is used as a LAMP DRIVER??!!
My god, MPS918 is a rather delicate RF transistor
(VCEo = 15V, fT = 600MHz, Ic = 50mA). Just about the
LAST part I would ever choose to drive a lamp. Ouch!

To my mind that shows a lack of adult supervision in design
department.
Scary. Did they employ the same lackey in the design of
the now-infamous 24xx U-800? :-O

-Adam

From: Miroslav Pokorni [mailto:mpokorni2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:42 PM
To: tekscopes@yahoogroups.com; Joe Sleator
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Question: R7903 Cap Rectifier Board 130v supply

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Re: CRT Needed Tek # 154-0667-02...

Greyhawk <greyhawkeng@...>
 

Hello, It Was A Late Night, I Should Have Said The Tube Is Used In Tek 1502/1503/305/326

----- Original Message -----
From: greyhawkeng
To: TekScopes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 21:45
Subject: [TekScopes] CRT Needed Tek # 154-0667-02...


Looking For A Used Tube In Fair Condition Under $75.00 It Is Used In
Tektrinix Models 1502/1504/305/326. TIA


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Re: TDS420 calibration disk

david@...
 

I'm sorry Marco, I forgot that I had gotten that software from our helpful
group member Zenith. You can download it here:

http://www.slack.com/david/TE/063-2039-00.zip


TDS420 calibration disk

marco_catuozzo <marco_catuozzo@...>
 

Hi, all

I'm looking for tds420 calibration program (i think it's a GPIB
program).
Can anybody help me?

Thanks
Marco


CRT Needed Tek # 154-0667-02...

greyhawkeng <greyhawkeng@...>
 

Looking For A Used Tube In Fair Condition Under $75.00 It Is Used In
Tektrinix Models 1502/1504/305/326. TIA


Re: Tek 310 and Looking for Advice

stan mcintosh <mcintosh@...>
 

Thanks for the advice. It helped rule some items in and some out. I hope
we're getting closer.

From Morris and Stan, respectively...

Check or try replacing the 5651 voltage reference tube. There >>should be
exactly 87 volts across it when it's lit.

Have you checked the output from the 5651 reference tube? It should be
about 85 volts. Measure this between pins 1 and 7 on V613.
The NOS 5651 that I put in 1-2 weeks ago had a 77 volt drop! The next one
had a 106 volt drop, and it *was* lit. The next two had voltage drops of
83.5 volts. I have one more in a box, but I decided that an 83.5 volt drop
tube would work for checking out a few of the other items.

From Stan (as are the rest of the quotes):

I still think the problem you see now is in the power supplies themselves.
Oh, I'm hoping it's restricted to the supplies. I'd rather chase a gremlin
through a small section rather than the whole scope.

Are the power supplies "regulating"? That is, do the voltages remain the
same as the line voltage is varied from 105 to 125 VAC? If you don't have
a
metered variable line voltage source, now is the time to get one.
Here is where we see some differentiation. From 105-125VAC input: the +100
V regulates right at 59V, the -150 regulates at -139, and the +300 swings
from 270 to 290. I don't have a metered line voltage source, but I do have
a voltmeter for making such measurements when using a Variac input.

How much "ripple" is on each supply? Is is about the amount stated in the
manual calibration procedure? (10 millivolts)
The ripple values in the +300, +100, and -150 are 3 mV, 1 mV, and 3 mV,
respectively.

As you try to set the -150 volt power supply on -150, can you vary it at
all
with the adjustment control or is it just at -140 all the time?
The adjustment does affect the -150 output voltage.

I'm going to have a cold one and pore over the power supply schematic,
again. However, I'm hoping that you'll effortlessly say, "Ah-Ha! You
obviously failed to check ..."

Again, thanks for all of the help. If this scope didn't have so much
character, and if I didn't really want it to be part of my bench, I'd go
back to working on my superhet.

Sincerely,
stan


Re: CFG250

Stan & Patricia Griffiths <w7ni@...>
 

I have the SERVICE manual on CD for the CFG250 along with two hardcopy
prints. One is the schematic and the other is the parts layout. $15 and we
pay the postage.

There was also a USER's manual (Tek Part Number 070-6738-02, 17 pages) and
an OPERATOR's manual (Tek Part Number 070-6738-00, 25 pages) that do not
contain exactly the same information. I do not have either of these
available for sale at this time.

If you decide a copy of the Service Manual will be useful to you, your
busines or personal check is OK to the following address:

Stan Griffiths
18955 S.W. Blanton Street
Aloha, OR 97007-1230

We can also accept PayPal. Our PayPal ID is w7ni@easystreet.com.

Please tell us what the money is for when you send it.

Stan
w7ni@easystreet.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "regman10" <regman10@comcast.net>
To: <TekScopes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:25 AM
Subject: [TekScopes] CFG250


Does anyone have a copy of a CFG250 user manual or know where I can
obtain one?


CFG250

regman10
 

Does anyone have a copy of a CFG250 user manual or know where I can
obtain one?


What's the best manual?

Stan & Patricia Griffiths <w7ni@...>
 

Tek no longer sells microfiche individually or by subscription. They MAY
have kept one set for their own use . . . and they may have tossed the LAST
set into the dumpster . . .

Tek Service Centers used microfiche and I don't know of any of them that had
the ability to convert the images to hard copy. Each technician's bench had
a microfiche reader on it (just like my own bench does now) and the Service
Center had one or two sets of microfiche that the entire technician crew
shared. There were a few microfiche readers at the main plant in Beaverton
that could make hard copies on terrible dry silver paper that turned brown
and faded out. Awful stuff.

Our local library has microfiche readers that can read either fiche sheets
or 35mm filmed images and convert any image to hard copy on excellent copy
paper similar to what you use in your own laserjet printer. It costs 10
cents per image to do prints and I sometimes use that service.

I generally use manuals from my vast archive of manuals since they are more
pleasant to use. The microfiche is my backup if I suspect the manual I am
using does not have the latest data in it or I need to know something about
the modifications that have been performed on an instrument.

I have had access to THOUSANDS of Tek manuals over the past ten years or so.
I can only keep one or two copies of each manual since just these take up
about 25 file cabinet drawers of space. The rest have been sold mostly on
eBay. In deciding specifically WHICH copy of a manual I will keep in my
archives, I always select the one with the best and latest information in it
rather than one that may be in better physical condition. I have the
ability to take these manuals apart and replace the often broken plastic
comb binders and/or damaged covers. I found a comb binding machine in an
estate sale CHEAP and could not resist it . . .

One way to tell which manual has the best data out of a stack of several for
the same instrument is to compare the serial number info found on the inside
front cover, the serial number info found on the manual inserts in the rear
of the manual, or the serial number info found in the Electrical and
Mechanical Parts Lists in the manual. There is also an elaborate system of
date-coding schematic diagrams generally found on the bottm-center of each
schematic diagram. Some of them will have actual dates (usually in the
lower right corner of the schematic) and others have date-codes like "A" or
"B" (which obviously was drawn or modified after the "A" version . . . )
Sometimes they will say "B1" or "CA". As far as I know, there were no set
rules about how these date codes were used and it appears to have been left
up to the schematic draftsmen to decide for themselves . . .

I still get access to batches of manuals at local estate sales so keep
looking at my eBay sales for my spares.

Stan
w7ni@easystreet.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "maddisassembler" <320041677522-0001@t-online.de>
To: <TekScopes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:35 AM
Subject: [TekScopes] Re: Tek service data on microfiche


November 3rd, 2003


Hello to all,

does anybody know if a microfiche subscription
is still available from Tektronix? (or the
opportunity to buy single sets)
I figure that Tek stopped issuing microfiche
in the 90s because it is a declining technology.

To make use of microfiche you would need a
reproduction printer to make paper printouts
and then use them like a manual.

Regards
-Roland


--- In TekScopes@yahoogroups.com, "Stan & Patricia Griffiths"
<w7ni@e...> wrote:
Expensive is a relative term. A full set would cost you in excess
of $5000
and an annual subscription more than that for just one year.

You are not alone in your opinion of microfiche being a pain in the
head.
Also, you can't write notes in the margins . . .

Stan


Plug Ins for the 500 series scope

Richard Oglebay <richardoglebay@...>
 

hello to the tek group this is my 3rd request for a 1l5 spectrum plug in for the old tektronix 500 series scope anyone out there please contact me if you have one forsale thank you my phone no. is 321 454 3466 or email me, Thanks Again Richard today is November 3rd 2003



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465M pdf link?

whipaway <whipaway@...>
 

Can anyone diret me to a link to download the 465M.pdf file?
Thanks
Paul


OP-Amp Plug-in accessories

Tim Phillips <t.phillips@...>
 

Hi, all;
I recently aquired a Type 'O' Op-Amp unit, along with
the Log-adaptor and a Gating-adaptor.
Does anyone have a Manual or Scan of the Gating-adaptor
manual please? the TekPart is 013-068.

Also, someone e-mailed me a few weeks ago regarding these
Op-Amp accessories; I unfortunately lost the e-mail during a
'Trojan War' so, if you are out there, please contact me.
(I think it was a query about the various part-numbers of
these things)
kindest regards
Tim.

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