Re: A high-priced Tektronix RM504
stevenhorii
I doubt it will hit reserve unless someone has no idea what this scope is
worth. Unless I am wrong and the group really thinks it is worth that much. It does appear to be in nice physical condition. I usually use RR Auction for the space program and vintage computing stuff I collect (my wife would probably say "hoard") and want to sell. They have folks who know the various markets for things (they also have auctions for autographs, Hollywood memorabilia, and "technology") and generally provide reasonable estimates of selling prices. Sotheby's has a reputation for offering high-value items so I suspect they are biased that way. I might go to Sotheby's if I had an original Alan Bean painting of his Apollo subjects but RR has sold things like the only wristwatch besides the famous Omega Speedmaster (a Bulova chronograph) that was worn on the lunar surface (Dave Scott, Apollo 15, third lunar surface walk - the crystal had fallen off the Omega, so he wore the Bulova). That watch sold for $1.6 million. They sold a functioning Apple-I computer for $458,711. You could add a lot to your retirement fund if you have one of these sitting around! Steve Horii On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 11:42 PM Roy Thistle <roy.thistle@mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 07:10 PM, stevenhorii wrote:Sotheby's "estimates" it will go from 3000-5000 USD.
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Re: A high-priced Tektronix RM504
Dave Seiter
"Commonly referred to as O-scopes" Really, by who? I don't think I've ever heard anyone call them "o-scopes". At least not here in the valley. Maybe that's what they call them at Sothebys?
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One of my nixie counters has a "spacecom" tag on it, but I don't think it has any other tags. I do have some ex-NASA stuff (tagged), but probably not very interesting. -Dave
On Tuesday, July 13, 2021, 07:10:57 PM PDT, stevenhorii <sonodocsch@gmail.com> wrote:
This is one of the (potentially) higher-priced Tek 504s I've seen (it is an RM504) and undoubtedly was NASA property, but it is not a flight item: https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2021/space-exploration/oscilloscope-telemetry-control-panel A fellow space collector has put his Apollo computer up for sale in this auction. It will likely go for a LOT of money. This is the only Apollo computer that has successfully been run so many years after it was built. It comes with a replica DSKY so you can run code on it (it does not have the core rope memory modules - it does have Raytheon test connectors presumably so Raytheon could run tests on different software versions without having different core ropes made. Steve Horii
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Re: A high-priced Tektronix RM504
Roy Thistle
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 07:10 PM, stevenhorii wrote:
Sotheby's "estimates" it will go from 3000-5000 USD. Southeby's also says, "Our scholarship and expertise in the art market allows us to offer the highest level of service..." -- Roy Thistle
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Re: Looking for an T5611-25 CRT (or -7 or -2)
Thanks for checking. I did notice on the DEC schematic for the LINC, they show it as a 561A scope and the phosphor to be a P19.
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A high-priced Tektronix RM504
stevenhorii
This is one of the (potentially) higher-priced Tek 504s I've seen (it is an RM504) and undoubtedly was NASA property, but it is not a flight item:
https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2021/space-exploration/oscilloscope-telemetry-control-panel A fellow space collector has put his Apollo computer up for sale in this auction. It will likely go for a LOT of money. This is the only Apollo computer that has successfully been run so many years after it was built. It comes with a replica DSKY so you can run code on it (it does not have the core rope memory modules - it does have Raytheon test connectors presumably so Raytheon could run tests on different software versions without having different core ropes made. Steve Horii
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2445b shelf vents for bottom air intakes - should I?
Keith
Hi guys and gals,
So, laying out a new shelf for my 2445b (and my 465b) on my revised electronics bench. For my scopes I have gone with a tilted shelf with 18 degrees tilt, because that's what my big brother did. (Thanks Mike! :-) While moving my 2445b around, I was reminded that the 2445b has air intake holes on the bottom side. I did some searching of past threads here about those holes. From searching these posts, and from common sense, I understand the bottom vents should not be blocked by sitting the bottom of the unit "flat down" on the shelf surface. So, got that...don't block bottom vents. However, that got me to wondering...should I go one step further and open up more generous vent openings on my shelf? I mean several circular holes aligned with the scope bottom vent pattern - holes that would service the unit with relatively unrestricted airflow up through the bottom. Normally, I wouldn't mind doing the modest amount of work required to cut four or five holes in my shelf...but these days I'm not looking for extra work. as the COVid disability aftermath makes every little cutting task an adventure. However, I perceive from reading various posts and comments that the cooling in the 2445b is about at the limit for a single muffin fan. Has anyone else taken this precaution? Am I worrying about nothing? I really like my 2445b and hate to see her run hot just because I was lazy. I appreciate the great advice here on this group, and thanks in advance. Keith coolblueglow
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Re: Members in Australia
guy_ellis_1964
Ping from 3068
Cheers, - Guy
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Re: What was the first oscilloscope to have cursors?
Dave Daniel
I’m guessing 7854?
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DaveD
On Jul 13, 2021, at 14:05, nj902 <wb0emu@arrl.net> wrote:
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Re: What was the first oscilloscope to have cursors?
The 6R1 was the Plugin that did the magic, when it was in the Tek 567 scope.
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Best, Mark K7ZGT
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From: TekScopes@groups.io [mailto:TekScopes@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jokken Feldhaar Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 11:27 AM To: TekScopes@groups.io Subject: Re: [TekScopes] What was the first oscilloscope to have cursors? The 6R1 had highlighted portions of the trace and automatic measurement functions, as well as an automatic readout - introduced in 1961, IIRC regards, Jochen DH6FAZ Am 13.07.2021 um 20:09 schrieb Paul Amaranth: They were in the 468
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Re: What was the first oscilloscope to have cursors?
Jokken Feldhaar
The 6R1 had highlighted portions of the trace and automatic measurement
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functions, as well as an automatic readout - introduced in 1961, IIRC regards, Jochen DH6FAZ Am 13.07.2021 um 20:09 schrieb Paul Amaranth:
They were in the 468
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Re: What was the first oscilloscope to have cursors?
Paul Amaranth
They were in the 468
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On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 11:05:06AM -0700, nj902 wrote:
Cursors as in highlighted dots (or bars) that can be moved along the trace with a corresponding method of determining time and voltage.. --
Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Manchester MI, USA Aurora Group of Michigan, LLC | Security, Systems & Software paul@AuroraGrp.Com | Unix/Linux - We don't do windows
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What was the first oscilloscope to have cursors?
nj902
Cursors as in highlighted dots (or bars) that can be moved along the trace with a corresponding method of determining time and voltage..
A second part of the question (if the answer is different) - which was the first Tektronix scope to have cursors.
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Re: Looking for an T5611-25 CRT (or -7 or -2)
Yes, that's a Calcomp 960 plotter with it's 907 controller. Some better photos of that can be seen about 1/3 the way down here: http://www.dvq.com/oldcomp/misc.htm. I restored that plotter about 10 years ago.
DEC used the 611 monitor on some of their PDP-8 systems. They painted it black and rebadged it DIGITAL. I have a few of those but they are not currently hooked up to anything. Fun stuff.
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Re: PS503A max current
The 20V supplies are not independent and cannot be paralleled. The negative of the positive supply and the positive of the negative supply are common and cannot be separated.
A module such as this could give up to 3 amps at 3.3V from one of the 20 volts supplies: https://www.ebay.com/itm/223524573272 -- Bob Haas
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ADMIN: TekScopes Moderators Required
Hi everyone. While Dennis has been doing a fantastic job running TekScopes, he could use some help and backup (which of course I’ve provided in the past whenever possible). So, we’re looking for one or three people who can share the duties.
What are the requirements? 1. Ideally you’ve moderated a group before, but more importantly, are “good with computers” and can generally figure out things on your own. The group mostly runs itself—the main task being to approve members’ first posts. 2. You follow or at least scan group postings, so you can keep on top of any issues that may arise. Please don’t “apply” unless you’re quite sure you want to do this. I.e., we don’t want to be overwhelmed with applications :-} Tell us who you are and about yourself a bit, how long you’ve been in the group, etc. This isn’t really a topic for group discussion, so please, let’s not start. Also, suffice to say that anyone who responds to this via the group will be barred from consideration! (that’s your first test) You can reply to me, but, no…better to send to the general “Moderators” email so both Dennis & I get it. That’s your second test ;-) Thanks! Michael
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Re: Looking for an T5611-25 CRT (or -7 or -2)
The vintageTEK Museum can probably supply a CRT, but I doubt we have anything but P31 phosphor. I will be at the Museum tomorrow (Wednesday) and will check our stock.
-- Bob Haas
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Re: What do you do when you get a call from AUSTRALIA
Nenad Filipovic
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 6:37 AM Dennis Tillman W7pF <dennis@ridesoft.com> wrote:
Give me a few days to get caught upHi Dennis, I'm glad you're OK and back with us. I second everything the rest of the group has said, especially the invitation to reach out. I hope the number of replies in this thread is enough of a proof that even if you don't feel like it (socializing), group members won't forget about you and will give comfort and support. On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 04:13 AM, cheater cheater wrote: I wanted to suggest something else, too. If we're feeling a bit moreI think this may be a very good idea. Compared to other voice/video messengers, Discord is less invasive and gives the ability to limit yourself only to those features you find suitable (e.g. only chat and messages if voice/video calls are too much hassle for you). It might bring modern air to the group and serve multiple purposes - people would be able to assist each other in real time and with the aid of a camera, or just use the plain old text chat. Would be good to hear what think, perhaps it deserves a thread of its own? Best regards, Nenad FIlipovic
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Re: What do you do when you get a call from AUSTRALIA
Hi Dennis,
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funny post, and I'm glad you're doing as well as you're doing. It can be tough, I know from experience. If there's anything we can do let us know. Chris called you but he was acting in name of all of us here. Just know you're always welcome here, whether feeling good or feeling crap. If you're feeling really really bad please don't hesitate to reach out. Always there to help. I don't think anyone on the list would object to anyone on the forum to reaching out like this, to talk to the fine folks on the forum. I wanted to suggest something else, too. If we're feeling a bit more generous with our contacts here, maybe we should also consider a voice and real-time chat option to talk. I suggest setting up a Discord server. If people here are OK with this idea I will post a link to a discord server. It doesn't cost anything. Just want to know if people are fine with it. Cheers
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 6:37 AM Dennis Tillman W7pF <dennis@ridesoft.com> wrote:
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Re: Looking for an T5611-25 CRT (or -7 or -2)
Tim Phillips
From Tim P (UK)
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Awesome collection ! Is that a Calcomp Drafting Plotter partly cut off on the far right-hand side of photo ? I remember seeing one plotting layouts for IC fab, which were then photo-reduced by many orders of magnitude using ultra-high-resolution lenses by, I believe, N*k*n, to make the masks. (pre-EBL) Also, some PDPs used the Tek storage monitors, I think the 604 and 611. Tim
On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 04:27, Bob Rosenbloom <bobalan@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I also have a PDP-12, though mine uses a DEC VR14 for the monitor. It's a
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Re: What do you do when you get a call from AUSTRALIA
Dennis,
G-d bless you! There is no better cure for depression, than hanging out with a few good men, and opening up. At the end of the day, we're all just a bunch of f... jerks, battling through life. It's much easier, and much more fun to not do it alone.
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