On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Marvin Moss <mmoss@mindspring.com> wrote:

I sent you money via Paypal but it went to wrong place. So I have to get my money back before I can forward to you. A real mess-up for me. Wish we had better info to get money to you. It is a shame that it is that hard to send you money :-)

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On 31 Dec 2019, at 14:42, Dennis Tillman W7PF <dennis@ridesoft.com> wrote:

Hello everybody,
In a few minutes it will be 2020. This is much further into the future than
I thought I'd ever see. Years ago I was sure someone would have developed a
tiny ultra-thin LED display that can be imbedded into a credit card by 2020.
It would display your current outstanding balance every time the card was
inserted in a reader. If my non-futuristic credit cards only had this
imbedded into them I would certainly not be in my present predicament. I
maxed out both cards and my wife took them away. I found this puzzling
because the cards still look the same even though they don't work anymore.
It is clear to her that she can't afford to keep me. She has made this very
clear to me often in the past 2 weeks.

Since we moved to Groups.io I have been paying the annual fee they charge to
host us. I did this for two reasons:
* It was expedient when we first joined because the demise of Yahoo seemed
imminent and this was the fastest way to get up and running on Groups.io.
* Later when I asked for suggestions on alternate ways to pay for Groups.io
I didn't see anything I liked. I thank you for all of them, they were all
fine. It seemed as if they would create extra work and, more importantly,
consume more of my time (which is in very short supply). I kept each of your
suggestions for future consideration.

In 2 weeks the total amount I will have paid will be $340. This is
significant enough that I have to do something about it, and more
importantly, I need to get back into my wife's good graces. So I am asking
for small contributions via PayPal if possible to be sent to
dennis@ridesoft.com. If you include a note along with each contribution
saying it is for Groups.io that will make it easier to track. See the
postscript at the end of my post for a no-fee way to send money with PayPal.

If PayPal doesn't work for you my address is 13808 NE 26th Place, Bellevue,
WA 98005 USA. If you have an extremely rare or unusual 7000 series plugin
that is definitely an acceptable form of payment but I must advise you I
probably already have it so contact me first.

I plan to give an accounting of the total to the group once the
contributions stop. Anything over $340 will be set aside. I will find out if
Groups.io will let me pay for the following year (or years) so we don't have
to worry if I get hit by a truck. I will press them hard to let me do this
at the old price of $110/yr.

This is the Groups.io billing summary for TekScopes:
Invoice Date Plan Payment Method
Amount Paid By
#3055 01/13/19 Premium Visa XXXX XXXX XXXX 7319 USD $110
dennis@ridesoft.com
#814 01/13/18 Premium Visa XXXX XXXX XXXX 7319 USD $110
dennis@ridesoft.com
#793 12/13/17 Premium Visa XXXX XXXX XXXX 7319 USD $10
dennis@ridesoft.com
The next payment of $110 is due 01/13/2000. NOTE: It appears the annual
price for the Premium Yearly Plan will go up the first of the year to $220.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

P.S. This is a way to send money via PayPal with minimal or no fee:
NO FEE PAYMENT METHOD FOR USA TEKSCOPES MEMBERS
* Choose "Send and Request".
* By default the Send tab will be chosen for you.
* In the "Send Money" field enter dennis@ridesoft.com.
* Next PayPal will ask you: "Sending to a Friend" or "Paying for an invoice
or service"?
* Choose "Sending to a friend".
* Enter the amount.
* Press next and choose your bank account to avoid the PayPal fee.
* Press the "Send the Money" button.
* Include your email address and TekScopes ID in the Notes section.
MINIMAL FEE PAYMENT FOR FOREIGN TEKSCOPES MEMBERS
* Chose "Send to friends and family internationally".
* Select the country you are sending to (USA).
* To keep the fee to 1% where it says "Select your delivery method" choose
"Send to a PayPal Balance".
* Under "You Send", enter whatever amount in local currency converts to the
correct US currency.
* Press next.
* The email account you will be sending to is dennis@ridesoft.com.
I can't help you after this point in PayPal because I was not outside the
USA to see what happened next.
* Include your email address and TekScopes ID in the Notes section.



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 09:53 PM, David Kuhn wrote:

You are tight too. That must be a very low
profile socket. I think maybe even more so that my lead carrier pins.

It's an ordinary turned-pin socket, maybe 4 mm (0.16") high and there was
still room for another 4 mm of foam. It is however necessary to remove the I/O
module plastic part before removing or inserting the NVRAM.

Are you sure holding B TRIG in while booting initializes the NVRAM? I'm still
looking at a - 2945263 hours or so total up-time in my error log after
replacing the battery...

Raymond

Ah, I just saw your pics. You are tight too. That must be a very low
profile socket. I think maybe even more so that my lead carrier pins. My
business depends on my original TDS3032. When this chip failed, I ordered
another TDS3032 from Alltest Instruments in NJ (~$1500). While I waited
for it to arrive, I did replace the DRAM in my original. I was way too
stupidly nervous at the time (I had to get back up and running) to dig the
chip out, so I bought a NOS ram. It was okay and worked good. I still use
my original as my primary (it's my baby - lol and seems to work slightly
better than my "new" one). If I have to do it again, I will definitely do
it the way you did!

I did learn that I have to hold the B TRIG in while booting it to initiate
that RAM chip. The screen came up in all kinds of pretty colors without
doing that - lol. Its been good now for about a year and went through
ISO17025 certification well.

Dave

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 3:40 PM Daveyk021 . <daveyk021@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Raymond,

"That is not necessary. I've added a few pictures of the initial
test-setup in my TDS3034 (now TDS3054) to the album "Clock error on
TDS3034", before clean-up. It can be seen that there's ample space for a
normal socket and putting a Li cell on top of the RAM"

With my TDS3032 (no bloody A, or B, or C...), I tried a zero insertion
force socket, and another lower profile version, and neither would fit in
my scope as the I/O module would hit it. I ended up using lead carrier
pins (real old school form the 1980s there, maybe earlier). With lead
carriers, it is just slightly higher (maybe 1/8" - 3/16"), and even then,
on my scope, the chip "just" cleaned the GPIB/VGA/RS232 module. Maybe on
the TDS3034, the chip is in a different location?

Dave

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 1:03 PM Raymond Domp Frank <hewpatek@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 05:00 PM, David Kuhn wrote:

When replacing the chip, install a VERY LOW PROFILE socket (pin

carriers)

on the PCB.

That is not necessary. I've added a few pictures of the initial
test-setup in my TDS3034 (now TDS3054) to the album "Clock error on
TDS3034", before clean-up. It can be seen that there's ample space for a
normal socket and putting a Li cell on top of the RAM

Yesterday, I wrote:

You'll find what you're looking for in my message #157465 in thread
"Clock error on TDS3034", including link to pictures of the Dallas

Module.

Link to the photos:

https://groups.io/g/TekScopes/album?id=91131

Raymond