Re: Tektronix tool box, 016-0362-02 in the 5000-series o'scopes
magnustoelle
Hello David,
yes, that would be me :-) A standard O-ring 8 mm x 2mm is all it needs. See http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/TekScopes/photos/albums/85295469 Works. Cheers, Magnus
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Re: Tek 7854 Doesn't Come On After EPROM ROM Replacement
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:54:09 -0500, you wrote:
On 01/30/2014 04:16 PM, David wrote:I mean the multiplexing of the memory address, data, and control lines of theWhy not just use a ATMEGA644 or even a Arduino Mega 2560 board? memory itself. The alternative is to use a dual port memory but that is a lot more specialized. I have not seen one in a while but they used to make products like this for general purpose embedded development work. They simulated a set of ROMs using SRAM which you could access directly from the development machine so code could be uploaded very quickly. The more sophisticated ones even monitored the address and data bus via the memory connection which allowed breakpoints and other debugging tools to be used.
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Re: 2465b powered up, Error 76 Fail 01 - DMM option
Maxime Nosek <nosek75@...>
Thanks Tom, I wasn't really sure while reading the schematics. Thanks for clarifying. As I am not a professional, what would be the suggested way of troubleshooting the error ? I am unsure as well what kind of signal AMPS ST is... Max To: TekScopes@... From: tmiller11147@... Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:15:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [TekScopes] 2465b powered up, Error 76 Fail 01 - DMM option Pin 2 is the X-6 input and is marked AMPS ST.
Tom
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Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Compactron tubes in HP or Tek instruments?
John Atwood
The 556 dual-beam scope uses several 6M11 tubes (dual triode + pentode) as well as two 6GF5 tubes (beam power tube). As far as I know, this is the only Tek scope that uses compactrons. I've got a 556, and am looking for spares, both the 6M11, 6GF5, and the 8608 (used as the vertical output amps). - John Atwood
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Re: Compactron tubes in HP or Tek instruments?
Don Black <donald_black@...>
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Re: Compactron tubes in HP or Tek instruments?
ditter2
I don't think any are used in the vertical amplifiers of either the 547 or 556 (which are nearly identical designs BTW), as these are all transistorized, except the first stage cathode follower which is a 12AT7. The other tubes in the 547 are all single and dual sided tubes commonly used in several Tek scopes. The 556 uses two 6M11 triple triodes, one in each sweep generator.
There is a novel miller integrator sweep generator design which can be implemented as a one tube design using a combination pentode-triode tube. The Miller integrator itself is named a "Phastastitron" short for fantastic. This cleaver design uses a single pentode for all of the functions of the sweep generator, including the cut off diodes and synchronization (rather than triggered operation.) The screens are used as additional grids in this design. The triode serves as a cathode follower, to prevent the external load from altering the timing linearity. Tek never used this design, as all Tek scopes have triggered rather than synchronized to the input signal. It is useful if you want to design one of those “three tube scopes”.
- Steve
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Re: J122-1 on 2465A ps
I FOUND IT. P122-1 is the Line signal for Line Trigger. It is called out on the upper right of the inverter schematic. Took me a while but its there.
From: jerry massengale
To: TekScopes@... Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] J122-1 on 2465A ps There is a signal sized trace coming from the pin to a via. I could separate the boards and try to follow the trace but hoped someone knew. I looked carefully on the schematics but have not found it yet. Thanks
Jerry Massengale
-----Original Message----- From: machine guy To: TekScopes Sent: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 4:51 pm Subject: Re: [TekScopes] J122-1 on 2465A ps I think it may be unused. My cursory examination did not find any reference in the Service Manual to Pin 1 of J122 or its mate P122. Perhaps someone with their scope open can buzz it out for you.
From: jerry massengale <j_massengale@...>
To: tekscopes@... Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:21 PM Subject: [TekScopes] J122-1 on 2465A ps Hi,
I am looking for the connection for pin1 of j122 on the low voltage power supply.
Jerry Massengale
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Re: [hp_agilent_equipment]Re-sent: Compactron tubes in HP or Tek instruments?
Brad Thompson <brad.thompson@...>
On 1/30/2014 3:38 PM, Daniel Koller
wrote:
Hello, Dan-- IIRC, one of Tektronix's scopes used Compactrons in the vertical-amplifier chain but I don't recall which scope used them or what their type numbers were. I may be wrong, so I hope that other group members will comment. As for the relative worth of Compactrons, certain type numbers command a premium price (e.g., the 6C10 triple triode (used in some Heathkits) and the 6D10). Again IIRC, there's one beam-power pentode that appeals to the tube audio crowd ('nuf said). There are also several sweep-tube Compactrons that would make interesting finals (as in certain CB linears). Finally, there's the 6LQ6 which has a different base (9 pins)-- it's another sweep tube used in various RF linear amplifiers (and it's expensive). Don't overlook the possibility of building some older circuits using Compactrons-- for example, shrinking a six-tube receiver down to three or maybe two Compactrons. There's fun to be had! Last of all, Compactrons with odd heater voltages tend to be much less expensive than the 6- and 12-volt versions. Too many tube-equipment builders get fixated on "standard" heater voltages and abandon projects when they review the cost of those tubes. To learn more about Compactrons, go here(*): www dot junkbox dot com / electronics / CompactronTubesIndex dot shtml I have a feeling that Yahoo blocked my earlier version of this message because it included an address outside of Yahoo's purview. We wouldn't anyone wandering outside of the game preserve, would we? 73-- Brad AA1IP
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Re: J122-1 on 2465A ps
There is a signal sized trace coming from the pin to a via. I could separate the boards and try to follow the trace but hoped someone knew. I looked carefully on the schematics but have not found it yet. Thanks
Jerry Massengale
-----Original Message----- From: machine guy To: TekScopes Sent: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 4:51 pm Subject: Re: [TekScopes] J122-1 on 2465A ps I think it may be unused. My cursory examination did not find any reference in the Service Manual to Pin 1 of J122 or its mate P122. Perhaps someone with their scope open can buzz it out for you.
From: jerry massengale <j_massengale@...>
To: tekscopes@... Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:21 PM Subject: [TekScopes] J122-1 on 2465A ps Hi,
I am looking for the connection for pin1 of j122 on the low voltage power supply.
Jerry Massengale
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Re: J122-1 on 2465A ps
I think it may be unused. My cursory examination did not find any reference in the Service Manual to Pin 1 of J122 or its mate P122. Perhaps someone with their scope open can buzz it out for you.
From: jerry massengale
To: tekscopes@... Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:21 PM Subject: [TekScopes] J122-1 on 2465A ps Hi,
I am looking for the connection for pin1 of j122 on the low voltage power supply.
Jerry Massengale
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Re: Compactron tubes in HP or Tek instruments?
Christopher Hilton-Johnson
I 'think' that the 547 used a compactatron and the 556 used several.
No current access to manuals or to the scopes & memory is not
what it was.
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Chris HJ
On 30/01/2014 15:38, Daniel Koller
wrote:
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Re: tek 465 faulty again!
Albert Otten
Hi Vitor,
Good that you found the culprit but not good for my self-esteem ;=). I now think that you measured an increasing current up to 1 A before the -8 V collapsed to -2 V, without saying that the current also dropped after the voltage collapsed. About 1 A is the maximum current at full output voltage. Albert
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Re: Compactron tubes in HP or Tek instruments?
Daniel Koller
Definitely no Nuvistors in the lot. Those I would pull out as a matter of course, and they are easy enough to store.
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Dan
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:24 PM, "bonddaleena@aol.com" <bonddaleena@aol.com> wrote:
Hi Dan, one of the tubes types that I purchased a bunch of spares for, were the Nuvistor series. 6CW4, 6DS4, etc. These can bring low or high prices on eBay, depending on your 'salesmanship'....Can't say that I have anything that use the 'compactrons'...... You can always use eBay's 'completed' listings for any tube type. This will give you a good idea what they are 'worth'....
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Re: Tek 7854 Doesn't Come On After EPROM ROM Replacement
Bert Haskins
On 01/30/2014 04:16 PM, David wrote:
Why not just use a ATMEGA644 or even a Arduino Mega 2560 board? Plenty of pins available so no multiplexing or shift register hacks needed.
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Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Compactron tubes in HP or Tek instruments?
Brad Thompson <brad.thompson@...>
On 1/30/2014 3:38 PM, Daniel Koller
wrote:
Hello, Dan-- IIRC, one of Tektronix's scopes used Compactrons in the vertical-amplifier chain but I don't recall which scope used them or what their type numbers were. I may be wrong, so I hope that other group members will comment. As for the relative worth of Compactrons, certain type numbers command a premium price (e.g., the 6C10 triple triode (used in some Heathkits) and the 6D10). Again IIRC, there's one beam-power pentode that appeals to the tube audio crowd ('nuf said). There are also several sweep-tube Compactrons that would make interesting finals (as in certain CB linears). Finally, there's the 6LQ6 which has a different base (9 pins)-- it's another sweep tube used in various RF linear amplifiers (and it's expensive). Don't overlook the possibility of building some older circuits using Compactrons-- for example, shrinking a six-tube receiver down to three or maybe two Compactrons. There's fun to be had! Last of all, Compactrons with odd heater voltages tend to be much less expensive than the 6- and 12-volt versions. Too many tube-equipment builders get fixated on "standard" heater voltages and abandon projects when they review the cost of those tubes. To learn more about Compactrons, go here: http://www.junkbox.com/electronics/CompactronTubesIndex.shtml 73-- Brad AA1IP
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Re: Tek 7854 Doesn't Come On After EPROM ROM Replacement
That will certainly work. Essentially you end up with a 2 port ROM where only 1
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port is available at any time. The address, data, and some of the control lines need to be multiplexed but that is not too difficult. The same thing could be done with NVSRAM of one type or another or even EEPROM. I think there are some parallel access Flash memories which allow serial programming via JTAG or something.
On 30 Jan 2014 11:55:08 -0800, you wrote:
I was going to whip a few boards up here at work as a proof of concept (fortunate enough to have a CNC PCB milling machine on-site). This article got me thinking about this problem again: http://petenpaja.blogspot.ca/2014/01/vic-20-flash-memory-programmer-part-12.html http://petenpaja.blogspot.ca/2014/01/vic-20-flash-memory-programmer-part-12.html
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Re: Compactron tubes in HP or Tek instruments?
bonddaleena@...
Hi Dan, one of the tubes types that I purchased a bunch of spares for, were the Nuvistor series. 6CW4, 6DS4, etc. These can bring low or high prices on eBay, depending on your 'salesmanship'....Can't say that I have anything that use the 'compactrons'...... You can always use eBay's 'completed' listings for any tube type. This will give you a good idea what they are 'worth'....
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-----Original Message----- From: Daniel Koller To: TekScopes ; hp_agilent_equipment Sent: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 3:38 pm Subject: [TekScopes] Compactron tubes in HP or Tek instruments? Howdy all,
I'm going through my dad's collection of vacuum tubes and sorting through them. I have a large number of used (pulls) "Compactron" type receiving tubes, and a smaller number of NIB Compactrons, as well as other tubes specific to TV sets of the day (1960's I presume).
I'm thinking of unloading all of these cheaply on e-bay or some such thing, but before I do, are there any of them that I should save? Are there any specific Compactron tubes that were used in later tube-era HP or Tek (or any other manufacturer's) instruments that I should keep in stock in the event I come across such an instrument some day?
I'd rather get these into the hands of someone who will use them rather
than store them.
Dan
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Compactron tubes in HP or Tek instruments?
Daniel Koller
Howdy all, I'm going through my dad's collection of vacuum tubes and sorting through them. I have a large number of used (pulls) "Compactron" type receiving tubes, and a smaller number of NIB Compactrons, as well as other tubes specific to TV sets of the day (1960's I presume). I'm thinking of unloading all of these cheaply on e-bay or some such thing, but before I do, are there any of them that I should save? Are there any specific Compactron tubes that were used in later tube-era HP or Tek (or any other manufacturer's) instruments that I should keep in stock in the event I come across such an instrument some day? I'd rather get these into the hands of someone who will use them rather
than store them. Dan
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J122-1 on 2465A ps
Hi,
I am looking for the connection for pin1 of j122 on the low voltage power supply.
Jerry Massengale
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Re: tek 465 faulty again!
vitor pinto
I finally found the culprit which is tantalum capacitor c102 6.8uf 35v on CH1 vertical preamp circuit board,
This capacitor has given me some headaches on this scope. Now it is working again as it should be. Thanks everyone for helping me on this repair.
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