Re: copyrights & CDROMs

Miroslav Pokorni <mpokorni@...>

To my mind examples of Electro Rent and Tucker show that Tektronix prefer
attitude 'do not ask, do not tell', the same as was allegedly hinted to
Dean. I visited couple of sites that were listed in Stan's mailing,
<> Both of them are mostly
copies; if Tektronix wanted to go after someone these two guys would be
prime targets. As for legality of the matter, it seems quite clear that
Tektronix does not want to be bothered by enforcing their copyright, whether
it is manual business or their franchised distributor. I am not saying that
it is right to infringe Tektronix copyright, but I see clear evidence that
they are not going to put teeth into it.

The letters that Stan mentioned and I understand that he meant mass mailing,
would be very effective. If letters came from people who still work and on
company letterhead, Tektronix might get an idea how their scheming is
received by potential customers. I do not think that Stan and Dean should be
asked to sign a 'collective letter'; they still know lot of people at
Tektronix and no strain should be put on those relationships. Besides, in
Tektronix's mind our group, as collectors, is of no consequence, they are
looking at people who would buy new equipment.


Miroslav Pokorni

-----Original Message-----
From: []
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Re: copyrights & CDROMs

>PS . . . . . I have to confess that I have made a copy of a
page or two for
>some desparate Tek equipment owners in the past myself.
One guy now offers a
>CD ROM with 46 complete manuals on it, which I consider
orders of magnitude
>worse than anything like this that I have seen in the past.

The manuals on that CDROM are *not* OEM Tek or HP manuals.
They are US
Army manuals that are publically available on an Army web
site. I'm
looking at one now (TM 11-6625-2759-14, aka Tek 7L5 service
manual) and it
says "This manual contains copywrite [sic] material
reproduced by
permission of the Tektronix Company." If Tektronix objects
to reproduction
of this manual, it's really up to them to complain to the
Army. The guy
selling the CDROM is not at fault.

For what it's worth, my opinion on the copyright issue is
that the test
equipment companies are happy with the current ambiguous
situation and
don't have any reason to clarify it. They also don't have
an incentive
to sue people for copyright violation since the legal
expenses would far
exceed any possible damages they could collect. Therefore,
I predict the
current situation will continue.

In support of this, I have noticed that even the largest
test equipment
dealers often supply photocopied manuals with the used
equipment they sell.
Two examples are Electro Rent and Tucker (Tucker also sells
service manuals). This doesn't really prove anything, but
since they are
franchised dealers for new equipment from HP and Tek, it
supports the idea
that those companies must not be bothered too much by the

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