Re: Odd +55v source to 465 CH1/CH2 Vertical Assembly.
Cool Tom. Thanks for that, though I'm still only understanding about half (generous) of what you're saying. It will contribute as I continue to study though.toggle quoted message Show quoted text
The insights to the purpose of the compensation are really the answer to the question, and makes me feel better about just jumpering in the +5v needed to operate the circuit. Full frequency calibration would take place in situ. And this is only for benchtop functionality testing.
E.g. CH2 is not only non-functional, the scope remains displaying CH1 while CH2 is selected. So obviously it's a switch issue. I have another 465 with odd noise at the top of the deflection of CH1 only. Despite a thorough cleaning. I'm 99% certain it's still a dirty contact as it is volts/div setting dependent. I want to be able to clean, test, repeat. Having to re-install would be beyond a pain. Now I don't feel like I'm gong to kill the board or components with a test jig.
I find these implementation particulars fascinating as an engineering solution given the constraints of the state-of-the-art at the time. I get the need for BW and temperature compensating components, but the available documentation doesn't get into the why of things like this interesting bias supply. The need for cold temperature operation isn't something I would have thought of. Pitying the techs operating in the Artic/Antarctic regions - or Minnesota.
On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 01:26:51 PM PDT, Tom Lee <tomlee@...> wrote:
That network provides temperature compensation of bandwidth. A peaking
capacitor (a trimmer) already exists across the emitter degeneration to
boost bandwidth. The varactor in parallel (effectively) with that
peaking cap allows the boost to increase with temp, to compensate for
the drop in bandwith that would otherwise occur as the amp heats up.
You want enough voltage to guarantee that the current source diode acts
like a good current source under all conditions. As to "why 55V",
remember that the scope is spec'd down to -15C. Replacing 55V with 5V
would fail even at room temp, because that would leave nothing across
the diode. 15V is enough at room temp, but at -15C, the varactor would
need too high a voltage to keep the diode happy. So, 55V.
The amp doesn't need that network to function, so if you power up the
temp. compensation part of the circuit with 5V in the way you propose,
that would be fine. You can proceed with troubleshooting.
Prof. Thomas H. Lee
Allen Ctr., Rm. 205
350 Jane Stanford Way
Stanford, CA 94305-4070
On 4/3/2021 12:22, Dave Peterson via groups.io wrote:
Can someone here explain the purpose of the +55v source to this circuit?