Re: Peter Keller book payments PayPal won't release


I am not saying it was Dennis's fault nor that we should change anything that is currently going on I am suggesting generating NEW low dollar transactions to get the reputation us so that this is no longer and issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Vince Vielhaber
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Peter Keller book payments PayPal won't release

It's not Dennis' fault. Plenty of people have paid with F&F with no issues. PayPal will stop your ability to pay F&F if 1) you've abused it and/or 2) you've had bounced transactions (bought something and the bank said NSF or had some other reason to decline it.

If you accept F&F and then use PP to send something to that person, PP will change it from F&F to product purchased and take the fee.

Vince - K8ZW.

On 12/02/2020 03:03 PM, Eric wrote:
If there is an underlying issue with Dennis's pay pal reputation as this seems to be an ongoing issue and it is just a few button clicks to make badly written software happy If there is enough transactions to build the reputation this would no longer be in issue in the future. I would be more then happy to buy a string of $0.50 or $1.00 random Tek vaper ware from Dennis and just say I received the parts I am guessing about 50 ish transactions should make the pay pal software happy that Dennis is not a scammer and we would be able to proceed as normal.

Thoughts on this?

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Chuck
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Peter Keller book payments PayPal won't

I have written you personally, but I may as well tell the group why there is a problem publicly.

Paypal accounts that are using a credit card to make payments cannot do friends and family, without incurring a cash advance charge from their CC company, and starting the interest rolling on the balance on their card.... even if they pay the full bill every month.

So, to sent cash using paypal, we have to use the purchase goods and services method. That allows for an ordinary charge on our credit cards.

To make this work, though, he has to lie to paypal and say that he has shipped the book. Then we can lie to paypal and say that we have received the book.


If Dennis doesn't tell paypal he has shipped the book, he will have to wait 30 days before paypal will release the funds.

If Dennis does tell paypal he has shipped the book, then we can click
on the Received button, and his funds will be released immediately.
(Well, unless he has other problems with paypal, like a history of not
sending stuff, or a lot of returns...)

-Chuck Harris

Dennis Tillman W7pF wrote:
The following people have sent payment for Peter Keller's book but
PayPal is holding the funds and will not release them to me so I can
pay Peter Keller for your book(s).
BL, $35.63, ON HOLD Nov 22
SJ, $68.53, ON HOLD Nov 22
BG, $38.54, ON HOLD Nov 23
CH, $73.93, ON HOLD Nov 23
DG, $68.53, ON HOLD Nov 23
DG, $6.20, ON HOLD Nov 24
LS, $35.63, ON HOLD Nov 26

PayPal describes these transactions as "Pending". It explains that
"This payment is in your on hold balance. Update your shipping info
or order status to get your money sooner."

If each of you will give me permission to tell PayPal one of the following:
1) I shipped, or I am planning to ship, Peter Keller's book to you;
2) Your payment was for a service or virtual product which doesn't
need to ship.

Then I think PayPal will release your payment.

Dennis Tillman W7pF


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