Re: Why would you do this?

Dick Wilson at DiLette Sales <cmdrdick42@...>

In case anyone is unaware, eBay has now cut Paypal out and is forcing it's members to give their financial info to a foreign company or the accounts will be closed.They are ramping that up in groups to be complete by the end of 2020.How does that affect you? Well, you won't be able to use Paypal for purchases or sales. As an eBay seller since they first started up, I have gone from a lover to a hater, because of the way that eBay arbitrarily forces new changes on members.
In the beginning, we sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of electronic equipment. These were mostly sourced from the government (bid on a container) auctions before Government became the only Mil surplus outlet. Once those guys started selling on their own site, the profit potential disappeared. Well, back to the point.
Today, I despise eBay, to the point of making up new cuss-words. We invested tons of money in programming for automatic handling of our sales thru Paypal. Now, all of that code is worthless.On July 15th, we closed all of our eBay accounts. Good riddance.
I am now retiring (at 78) and still have 30 skids of used electronics and a huge manuals library. I'll be donating the library to the WiKi and selling off the stuff wherever I can find interest.
Change is the only constant.

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 11:23:41 PM EDT, Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote:

Ebay has been taking a shipping cut for years (not sure how long, probably around 2012?).  I stopped selling scopes because of that, as $120 shipping on an item that might sell for $35 isn't worth the effort (and properly boxing up Tek scopes requires effort!)
    On Monday, August 3, 2020, 01:54:55 PM PDT, David Berlind <david@...> wrote:

I would say that while it's true that not ALL ebay sellers are padding
their revenue through exorbitant shipping fees, the pattern is bad enough
from eBay's perspective that the shipping cost is now included in eBay's
math for the cut it takes from a sale. This used to not be the case and was
almost certainly a response to sellers gaming the system. I remember going
on eBay and seeing things that I was interested in for exceedingly low Buy
it Now prices. Then, I became hip to how the sellers were making it up on
the shipping price because eBay wasn't taking a cut of that. Well, now they
do. For documentation, the shipping should be super cheap thanks to USPS
media mail.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:23 PM Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote:

  Ebay sellers most certainly do not all "make some money" on packaging and
shipping!  In fact, since ebay final value includes any shipping cost, they
are actually losing money on shipping unless they are hugely padding the
shipping amount (and some do, but it seems to mostly be brick and mortar
stores with an additional ebay storefront that do so, and the people who
think their $20 item is worth $300).
I never pad the cost of shipping, charge for materials (unless the buyer
wants something specific that I don't already have), and I refund excess
shipping fees when they occur (if more than a few cents).  That's usually
due to a listing with fixed shipping that gets purchased by someone local.
I also never use stock photos- like you say, it's asking for trouble unless
the item is still shrink wrapped.
    On Monday, August 3, 2020, 12:51:04 PM PDT, Roy Thistle <
roy.thistle@...> wrote:

  On Sat, Aug  1, 2020 at 09:58 AM, Dennis Tillman W7pF wrote:

So why would he want to take additional photos for a manual he is
selling for
$15.00. I thinking he is doing any member who has a P6042 probe a favor
offering it at all.
Hi Dennis:
It's refreshing to read your post... since I tend to be cynical about Ebay
sellers (and Crag's List et. al. sellers too.)
IMHO 20USD is a good bit! (lt's more than millions, maybe 10s of millions
of Americans make in an hour, or even 2 hours.) Thus, for a few minutes
work, the seller probably made about  20.00USD. Not Bad, for something
he/she got from a dumpster! The seller made some money on the
shipping/packing too!... they always do! And, the seller already has an
Ebay store... selling toy ships, and shoes, and candle wax... even selling
tomatoes, but not kings.
Ebay has copious warnings about buying items based on cropped, or single
photos, or even stock photos... and though I am not a Ebay seller..listing
items, with such pics, leaves a seller wide open for someone to file a
case  against them, for "not as shown/described."
Lastly, how much time does it take to push the camera button, a couple
more times, to get good documentation!... and why don't some sellers do
Best regards and wishes.

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