Re: Guernsey Island 2445

Chuck Harris


Hatchet is sheathed.

My point on my spelling of Guernsey, is the only internal spelling
checker I have in me (an intentional redundant redundancy) spells
phonetically. So, every time I type Guernsey, I start out "Gurn"
before my higher brain function catches my mistake, and causes me to
back space 3 times, because twice wouldn't do, would it?

And then I type "G...u..ernsey". This happens every blooming time!

If my higher brain function is distracted by doing other higher brain
things, the correction doesn't happen.

Each and everyone of us (who isn't a liar), has a problem like this
that vexes them. For some it is spelling, for others it is homonyms,
and others, its it's (snort!), or who vs that, or effect vs affect,
or colors we see differently from others, ... it is always something.

If it doesn't really affect the point being made, I try to just let it
go. You say colour, I say color... we are all different.

-Chuck Harris

Colin Herbert via Groups.Io wrote:


Since this whole thread on the Guernsey Island 2445 has that (correct) spelling as its title, I wouldn't have thought it would be so hard. I am only being a bit grumpy, not really fuming mad. Please don't take too much offence (that's the way we spell offense in the UK) as it isn't intended.

The reference to "Holland" wasn't directed at you, it was a "point of order". As I said, Holland is just one part of the Netherlands. Some people in the UK call the whole country "Holland" incorrectly. I think even the national (association; "soccer") football team gets named "Holland". I'm not sure whether many Dutch agree with that, but if I was Dutch, I wouldn't agree. OK, I admit to having a bit of a bee in my bonnet on this score.

Can we bury the hatchet on this? I really didn't intend to have a big go at you, it was more in jest. I'll buy you a drink when and if I see you to apologise.


-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Chuck Harris
Sent: 28 January 2020 17:06
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Guernsey Island 2445

Tektronix called its factory in Heerenveen, The Netherlands,
"Tektronix Holland" Why should I differ? Calling it "Holland",
for short, when I am writing about Tektronix factories, simplifies
my writing.

I recognize that I have a tendency to spell Guernsey phonetically
as Gurnsey. I have been trying to spell it correctly for this
entire thread, but I slip up from time-to-time. Phonetic spelling
was how I was taught as a child. It is an indelible part of me,
and has reared up its ugly head to bite me all of my life.

I believe my spelling of Guernsey, correctly, is better than 50%,
more like 80-90%. But every time someone else quotes my mistake,
the weed of my misspelling gains a new root.

Prior to this thread, I am not sure that I have ever had to write
the name Guernsey for any reason.

How well do you do when dealing with terms/names foreign to you
for the first time?

Or did you have something else on your mind when you wrote your

-Chuck Harris

Chuck Harris wrote:
Bite me!

-Chuck Harris

Colin Herbert via Groups.Io wrote:
Chuck, speaking as a Brit, can you please stop spelling it "Gurnsey". I don't think you would like it much if I referred to the US city as "Filadelfia" would you? I should maybe point out that in UK English, "gurning" is a term for making silly faces.

While I am in this mood, The Heerenveen Tek factory was in Holland, but "Holland" is a term for a part of the Netherlands, not the name of the whole country. [grumpy mode off]


-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Chuck Harris
Sent: 27 January 2020 17:14
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Guernsey Island 2445

Hi Raymond,

Very well, I must have misunderstood what I was told by
a former tektronix engineer from Gurnsey, 40 years ago.

I met him at one of my customer's sites, he was working
for a division of my customer's company in Guernsey, and
was TDY here in the states for training.

He noticed my brand new 2465, and clearly was itching
to talk with me about it. He was involved in the design
when he was at Tek Guernsey. He looked at my scope's serial
number to see where mine was made, and that brought on
a discussion of the serial numbers, factory of origin,
and revisions.

40 years is a long time, and I am somewhat surprised that
I remember the meeting at all. It was just a transient
thing one morning.

In the 40 years since, I have seen only one example of
a scope from any tektronix overseas factory, other than
Japan, and that was a 468 that I own that came from Holland.

I own two 468's, one from Holland, and one from Beaverton.

Both appear to be identical in board revisions, and software

One is B014XXX, and the other is 705XXX

To my eye, it looks like they relate by subtracting the
universal Beaverton "zero" serial number (B010101) from the
Beaverton unit... but my sample set is too small.

Tektronix isn't stupid enough to have not had a simple way
to connect the dots between the scopes that were made in
multiple countries.

-Chuck Harris

Raymond Domp Frank wrote:
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 10:17 PM, Chuck Harris wrote:

The primary thing I was trying to relate is the last
5 digits determines which engineering change orders
apply to your instrument.
I'm pretty sure that's incorrect across serial numbers from different countries of manufacture, Chuck, but I'm happy to check and provide (dis)proof when I'm back in the lab...
Unless unwelcome signs of old age have set in, ISTR that's exactly what many of us (mostly non-US based) have had to deal with for years.
It is one unfortunate thing that I have never understood from Tek.


Join to automatically receive all group messages.