British 5th Airborne Brigade in 1985 WAS Re: British 7th Armoured Brigade subunits circa 1985?


keith tracton
 

A quick question: Does anyone know the nomenclature for the platoon-level subunits of the British 2nd and 3rd Parachute Regiments (5th Airborne Brigade, Aldershot) back in 1985? Looking for the Company names and sequence. Trying to verify what I have and not finding my notes(!). many thanks in advance!!


Louied
 

Keith,

Give me a few, I have it from the Falklands but should be similar in 1985 until then...

Crown Copyright

Louie


Louied
 

1985 SOHB (Crown Copyright)

Louie


keith tracton
 

Brilliant, thank you so much!!

Do you happen to know if the Companies were called simply A, B, C, D, and Support? Thanks again!!


Louied
 
Edited

Keith

2 Para @ Goose Green 27 May 1982
- Bn HQ & HQ Coy
- A Coy - 1, 2, 3 Pls
- B Coy - 4, 5, 6 Pls
-C (Patrols) Coy - Recce & Patrols Pls
- D Coy - 10, 11, 12 Pls
- Sp Coy - Mortar, MILAN, SFMG, Aslt Pnr Pls & Sniper Sec

3 Para @ Mt. Longdon 11 June 1982
- Bn HQ & HQ Coy
- A Coy - 1, 2, 3 Pls
- B Coy - 4, 5, 6 Pls
- C Coy- 7, 8, 9 Pls
- D (Patrols) Coy - Recce & Patrols Pl
Sp Coy - Drums (SFMG), Mortar, MILAN, Aslt Pnr 

The bulk is from Hugh Bicheno's Razor's Edge: The Untold History of the Falklands War plus a couple of other secondary sources.

Louie


Mandeep Singh Bajwa
 

What role did the patrol platoon have? Ground recce (as opposed to vehicle-mounted recce by the Recce Playoon)?

Thanks and regards,

Mandeep Bajwa

On Tue, 20 Dec 2022, 08:28 Louied, <baororbat@...> wrote:

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Keith

2 Para @ Goose Green 27 May 1982
- Bn HQ & HQ Coy
- A Coy - 1, 2, 3 Pls
- B Coy - 4, 5, 6 Pls
-C (Patrols) Coy - Recce & Patrols Pls
- D Coy - 10, 11, 12 Pls
- Sp Coy - Mortar, MILAN, SFMG, Aslt Pnr Pls & Sniper Sec

3 Para @ Mt. Longdon 11 June 1982
- Bn HQ & HQ Coy
- A Coy - 1, 2, 3 Pls
- B Coy - 4, 5, 6 Pls
- C Coy- 7, 8, 9 Pls
- D (Patrols) Coy - Recce & Patrols Pl
Sp Coy - Drums (SFMG), Mortar, MILAN, Aslt Pnr 

The bulk is from Hugh Bicheno's Razor's Edge: The Untold History of the Falklands War plus a couple of other secondary sources.

Louie


Louied
 
Edited

IIRC, 
When 16 Para Bde was disbanded in 1977, the Pathfinder Coy went also. The Patrols Pl was initially formed (one in each Bn) from these personnel. Only one Bn would be In-Role for Parachute Assault, so each Coy needed one Pl. They eventually formed a fourth coy with the Recce Plt (which were the Land Rover equipped Plt, except if they were roled as the AMF(L) Bn. Then the Recce Pl would be mounted in CVR (T) Scimitar). By 1985, Patrols Pl was again called Pathfinder Pl but still in Patrols Coy with Recce Pl. See below 1985 SOHB (Crown Copyright)


Louie


Louied
 

Finally, in 1988, with the reformation of a Bde Level Pathfinder Pl, each Bn lost their Patrols/Pathfinder Pl and Patrols Coy became Command Coy which kept the Recce Pl but added the Signals Pl
and Aslt Pnr Pl. See 1988 SOHB (Crown Copyright)


Louie


Louied
 

 I forgot to add, in the 1981 SOHB no In-Role Para Bn organization was listed because they were all technically Type B Bns. You have to go back to the 1975 SOHB for the listing which has a three Pl Patrols Coy. 1975 SOHB (Crown Copyright)

Louie


keith tracton
 

Excellent, thank you, this is exactly for what I was searching!