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Re: Serial cable question

np3od
 

Hi,

Although I agree with you that is best to have a real serial port in the computer instead of a USB to Serial Adapter, with todays computers that is something very hard; specially with consumer oriented market laptops. Now about my experience with the USB to Serial adapters has been that some work, some do not work well (or none at all).

Basically he just has to hope that his USB to Serial Adapter works. Seems that not all manufacturers implement the USB to Serial logic right to the full specs of the original serial. And just because you have a big brand name in the adapter, does not give any warranty that it will work. I have not worked with the belkin brand USB to Serial Adapters, but have heard of lots of amateur having problems with that model in specific with many things like TNC, Sound Card Adapters and/or Serial Programming interfaces with radios.

Another thing he has to make sure is to have the correct and latest driver of that USB to Serial Adapter to minimize chance of incompatibility with the radio.

Thanks,



Francisco
NP3OD

--- In TMD700A@..., Joe Pistritto <jcp@...> wrote:

My experience here is that doesnt work with the programming software for
the TMD700A

I had to get a *real* serial cable and hook it up to a real serial port
(ie. all 9 pins straight through).
a USB serial adapter would not work.

Now, i've done the other thing when i just wanted to run WinAPRS or
something with the radio, but if you're going to use a connection for
programming, its best if its a real serial port.
-jcp-

Billy Mason (E-Lists) wrote:
One could get the appropriate gender RJ45 to Serial Adapters and connect
them with a standard network (Ethernet) cable. A very simple and compact
way to make your own serial cables. Mix and match the genders of the
adapters and can cover all bases.





Regards,



Billy Mason, KD5KNR

Bedford, TX

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Re: Serial cable question

Dale Blanchard
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <noskosteve@...>
To: TMD700A@...
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:14:54 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [TMD700A] Re: Serial cable question







Yea.
While I have a few of the larger style (and some null modems like that) I grabbed onto a few of that second, smaller type and they really come in handy. Especially after spending time making that oh-so-perfect connector to find out you grabbed the wrong sex DB-9...Arrrrrg!

--
73, Steve, K9DCI

Back when RS-232 serial became standard every one had their own standards .

Once you took a cable out of the box it was not marked ats to what it was.

I understand it all now, but it was a hard thing to learn when the computer guru's did not know anything. Then there was the non standard cables like Commodore and others had .

Dale

Re: Serial cable question

np3od
 

Hi,

I would have to check my D700 but I am sure the D700 serial cable plug is a DB-9 Serial Male and most computers today (including USB to Serial Adapters) use DB-9 Male. What he needs is a DB-9 Female to Female straight thru cable.

Now if he got a Null Modem Cable (like he says he bought), he can still use it if he buys a crossover adapter making sure that both ends end in Female DB-9. A simple Gender Bender only changes the end of a DB-9 Male to a DB-9 Female (or any other kind of Male/Female plug).

But I personally prefer the approach of using only the Straight Thru cable, remember KISS (and not the KISS of TNC's).

He should be able to get any of those cables and/or adapters in stores that carry computer cable accessories; like Radio Shack, CompUSA/Tigerdirect, Blackbox or any other (either brick and mortar store or internet store).

Good luck and thanks,



Francisco
NP3OD

--- In TMD700A@..., "w0web" <w0web@...> wrote:

again you'll need what we in the computer field call a GENDER BENDER you can get them at any Rat Shack
----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Dixon
To: TMD700A@...
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 13:12
Subject: Re: [TMD700A] Serial cable question


but my usb-to-serial adapter ends in a male serial port, and the radio has a
male serial port.....

Glenn
dixonge@...

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:23 PM, w0web <w0web@...> wrote:

> NO, you'll need a standard serial cable with a gender bender
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Glenn Dixon
> To: TMD700A@... <TMD700A%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:53
> Subject: [TMD700A] Serial cable question
>
> So I want to connect from my PC to my radio to do some memory channel
> programming, etc. I bought a female-to-female null modem cable. Will this
> work or will I need a crossover?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>






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Unprotocol & UIDIGI Menu Settings

w8att@sbcglobal.net
 

I have my radio up and running APRS but was asking what these two menu options do and any suggestions for the settings of them. Appreciate any help here.
Thanx,
Scott W8ATT

Re: Serial cable question

Joe Pistritto <jcp@...>
 

My experience here is that doesnt work with the programming software for the TMD700A

I had to get a *real* serial cable and hook it up to a real serial port (ie. all 9 pins straight through).
a USB serial adapter would not work.

Now, i've done the other thing when i just wanted to run WinAPRS or something with the radio, but if you're going to use a connection for programming, its best if its a real serial port.
-jcp-

Billy Mason (E-Lists) wrote:

One could get the appropriate gender RJ45 to Serial Adapters and connect
them with a standard network (Ethernet) cable. A very simple and compact
way to make your own serial cables. Mix and match the genders of the
adapters and can cover all bases.



Regards,


Billy Mason, KD5KNR

Bedford, TX

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Re: Serial cable question

Billy Mason \(E-Lists\) <elists@...>
 

One could get the appropriate gender RJ45 to Serial Adapters and connect
them with a standard network (Ethernet) cable. A very simple and compact
way to make your own serial cables. Mix and match the genders of the
adapters and can cover all bases.





Regards,



Billy Mason, KD5KNR

Bedford, TX

_,___

Re: Serial cable question

noskosteve
 

--- In TMD700A@..., "GK" <glendor2@...> wrote:

For those who might not be computer literate, that is a "Gender Changer" and you can go from "male to Male" or "female to Female".
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0202119
or
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0283992
Or a bit cuter, Gender Bender.

Yea.
While I have a few of the larger style (and some null modems like that) I grabbed onto a few of that second, smaller type and they really come in handy. Especially after spending time making that oh-so-perfect connector to find out you grabbed the wrong sex DB-9...Arrrrrg!


--
73, Steve, K9DCI

Re: Serial cable question

Glenn Dixon <dixonge@...>
 

Thanks, Steve.

I obviously made the wrong choice when guessing which cable would work.
Unfortunately Tanner Electronics is closed on Sundays :o(

But I'll be back over there this week. My cable was around $4 as opposed to
Radio Shack or Best Buy's ridiculously high prices. Same for the audio
cable to extend the GPS cable. I love that place.

Glenn
dixonge@...

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Steve <noskosteve@...> wrote:

--- In TMD700A@... <TMD700A%40yahoogroups.com>, Glenn Dixon
<dixonge@...> wrote:

so I need to take my female-to-female null modem cable back and exchange
it for a female-to-female straight cable?

Yep.

If the USB<>Serial a Male
and the
Radio is Male

You need an F to F straight through cable.
No nul modem. No Gender Bender needed.

Though, JUST IN CASE, if they don't have an F to F, you may still use one
to make an F to F.

And BTW, IF you have Excel, There is an Excel workbook in the Files Area
that does FULL memory management and a bit more. Look for my call.

-- 73, Steve, K9DCI


Re: Serial cable question

Dale Blanchard
 

I got my cable at Radio Shack. Has the correct plugs on each end, straight thru,
Cost $20.00 tho. Computer shops did not have any.
Dale

----- Original Message -----
From: "w0web" <w0web@...>
To: TMD700A@...
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 1:15:49 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [TMD700A] Serial cable question






again you'll need what we in the computer field call a GENDER BENDER you can get them at any Rat Shack
----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Dixon

Re: Serial cable question

GK
 

For those who might not be computer literate, that is a "Gender Changer" and you can go from "male to Male" or "female to Female".
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0202119
or
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0283992

----- Original Message -----
From: w0web
To: TMD700A@...
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TMD700A] Serial cable question


again you'll need what we in the computer field call a GENDER BENDER you can get them at any Rat Shack
----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Dixon
To: TMD700A@...
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 13:12
Subject: Re: [TMD700A] Serial cable question

but my usb-to-serial adapter ends in a male serial port, and the radio has a
male serial port.....

Glenn
dixonge@...

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:23 PM, w0web <w0web@...> wrote:

> NO, you'll need a standard serial cable with a gender bender
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Glenn Dixon
> To: TMD700A@... <TMD700A%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:53
> Subject: [TMD700A] Serial cable question
>
> So I want to connect from my PC to my radio to do some memory channel
> programming, etc. I bought a female-to-female null modem cable. Will this
> work or will I need a crossover?
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Serial cable question

noskosteve
 

--- In TMD700A@..., Glenn Dixon <dixonge@...> wrote:

so I need to take my female-to-female null modem cable back and exchange it for a female-to-female straight cable?

Yep.

If the USB<>Serial a Male
and the
Radio is Male

You need an F to F straight through cable.
No nul modem. No Gender Bender needed.

Though, JUST IN CASE, if they don't have an F to F, you may still use one to make an F to F.

And BTW, IF you have Excel, There is an Excel workbook in the Files Area that does FULL memory management and a bit more. Look for my call.

-- 73, Steve, K9DCI

Re: Serial cable question

Glenn Dixon <dixonge@...>
 

so I need to take my female-to-female null modem cable back and exchange it
for a female-to-female straight cable?

sorry for the confusion here

Glenn
dixonge@...

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, w0web <w0web@...> wrote:

Female cable end is what you need, CABLE MUST BE FEMALE to hook to the
radio

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Dixon
To: TMD700A@... <TMD700A%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 13:12
Subject: Re: [TMD700A] Serial cable question

but my usb-to-serial adapter ends in a male serial port, and the radio has
a
male serial port.....

Glenn
dixonge@... <dixonge%40gmail.com>

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:23 PM, w0web <w0web@...<w0web%40comcast.net>>
wrote:

NO, you'll need a standard serial cable with a gender bender
----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Dixon
To: TMD700A@... <TMD700A%40yahoogroups.com> <TMD700A%
40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:53
Subject: [TMD700A] Serial cable question

So I want to connect from my PC to my radio to do some memory channel
programming, etc. I bought a female-to-female null modem cable. Will this
work or will I need a crossover?









Re: Serial cable question

w0web <w0web@...>
 

Female cable end is what you need, CABLE MUST BE FEMALE to hook to the radio

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Dixon
To: TMD700A@...
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 13:12
Subject: Re: [TMD700A] Serial cable question


but my usb-to-serial adapter ends in a male serial port, and the radio has a
male serial port.....

Glenn
dixonge@...

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:23 PM, w0web <w0web@...> wrote:

> NO, you'll need a standard serial cable with a gender bender
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Glenn Dixon
> To: TMD700A@... <TMD700A%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:53
> Subject: [TMD700A] Serial cable question
>
> So I want to connect from my PC to my radio to do some memory channel
> programming, etc. I bought a female-to-female null modem cable. Will this
> work or will I need a crossover?
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Serial cable question

w0web <w0web@...>
 

again you'll need what we in the computer field call a GENDER BENDER you can get them at any Rat Shack

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Dixon
To: TMD700A@...
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 13:12
Subject: Re: [TMD700A] Serial cable question


but my usb-to-serial adapter ends in a male serial port, and the radio has a
male serial port.....

Glenn
dixonge@...

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:23 PM, w0web <w0web@...> wrote:

> NO, you'll need a standard serial cable with a gender bender
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Glenn Dixon
> To: TMD700A@... <TMD700A%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:53
> Subject: [TMD700A] Serial cable question
>
> So I want to connect from my PC to my radio to do some memory channel
> programming, etc. I bought a female-to-female null modem cable. Will this
> work or will I need a crossover?
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Serial cable question

Glenn Dixon <dixonge@...>
 

but my usb-to-serial adapter ends in a male serial port, and the radio has a
male serial port.....


Glenn
dixonge@...

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:23 PM, w0web <w0web@...> wrote:

NO, you'll need a standard serial cable with a gender bender
----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Dixon
To: TMD700A@... <TMD700A%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:53
Subject: [TMD700A] Serial cable question

So I want to connect from my PC to my radio to do some memory channel
programming, etc. I bought a female-to-female null modem cable. Will this
work or will I need a crossover?




Re: Serial cable question

w0web <w0web@...>
 

NO, you'll need a standard serial cable with a gender bender

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Dixon
To: TMD700A@...
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:53
Subject: [TMD700A] Serial cable question


So I want to connect from my PC to my radio to do some memory channel programming, etc. I bought a female-to-female null modem cable. Will this work or will I need a crossover?

Serial cable question

Glenn Dixon <dixonge@...>
 

So I want to connect from my PC to my radio to do some memory channel programming, etc. I bought a female-to-female null modem cable. Will this work or will I need a crossover?

D700 Turns Itself Off

Steve Agee <n5zua@...>
 

I had a similar problem and finally tracked it down to a defective fuse. The fuse looked OK but upon closer inspection, the end cap was loose and the connection to the filament was barely attached. The radio worked fine on low and medium power but would turn off on high power. As for locking up in transmit, I've never experienced that problem, but it could be RF getting back in to the radio.

N5ZUA

--- On Fri, 3/27/09, S. Peterson <kg6jev@...> wrote:
From: S. Peterson <kg6jev@...>
Subject: [TMD700A] D700 Turns Itself Off
To: TMD700A@...
Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 7:43 PM

Anyone experienced an issue with their rig turning off after transmitting on

high power? I've owned my rig for several years and use it for APRS, which

always transmits on high power. I use low power to talk on the local

repeater. This afternoon, after transmitting an APRS packet, I noticed my

radio was shutting itself down. I brought up the simplex frequency and found

low and medium to be okay, but when I keyed up in high power, it either

locked up in transmit mode, or shut itself down. I haven't had a chance to

check power output and SWR, but it looks like the rig is going into self

protect. Anyone else seen this?

73,

Steven KG6JEV

Re: D700 Turns Itself Off

David Forbes
 

Message text written by INTERNET:TMD700A@...
I've owned my rig for several years and use it for APRS, which
always transmits on high power<

Do you really need high power to reach the network? You must live in the
sticks.

Re: D700 Turns Itself Off

Michael Champion <mikec@...>
 

Or go 9600 using 144.35 in the Puget sound. More people and less
collisions on 1 freq.



From: TMD700A@... [mailto:TMD700A@...] On Behalf
Of Herb Gerhardt
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:32 PM
To: TMD700A@...
Subject: RE: [TMD700A] Re: D700 Turns Itself Off



Folks, PLEASE don't use high power on a routine basis. On the D700 that
is
50 Watts!

Give a break to the little guy with their TH-D7A or VX-8R hand helds.
They
can only put out 5 watts and if all the mobiles use high power, then
these
little guys will never be heard.

On the D700 it is so easy to see if you are getting into the system.
Just
look for the MY PACKET after your transmission it means your radio has
heard
itself being digipeated by another station so you positively know that
you
are making it into your local APRS network.

Thanks,

Herb, KB7UVC
NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator
Our WEB Site: http://www.nwaprs.info

-----Original Message-----
From: TMD700A@... <mailto:TMD700A%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:TMD700A@... <mailto:TMD700A%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf
Of Steven Peterson
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:53 PM
To: TMD700A@... <mailto:TMD700A%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [TMD700A] Re: D700 Turns Itself Off


Thanks for the responses, guys. I'll have a look at it tomorrow
and see if I can find something amiss. Right now I'm trying to
remember where I installed the fuseholder for that rig... If it's
in the engine compartment, that could be the problem.

You're right - I probably don't need high power on APRS for the
local area, but we frequently get out on the fringe and it's nice
not to worry if I'm hitting the digipeater, especially if I
forget to bump it back up to high power.


Thanks and 73,

Steven KG6JEV