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ETR 610 Query

csipromo
 

On my recent trip to Switzerland, I observed a Trenitalia ETR 610 in Zurich HB with Swiss UIC numbering. How many of the FS trainsets are registered in Switzerland? I know that the ETR 470s were at one point registered to Cisalpino AG Bern. Is this because a few of the original ETR 610 were also delivered to Cisalpino AG? I thought that they had reverted to either SBB or TI?

Regards

Mike C

Guerbetaler
 

Am 17.07.2019 um 13:53 schrieb csipromo via Groups.Io:
On my recent trip to Switzerland, I observed a Trenitalia ETR 610 in
Zurich HB with Swiss UIC numbering. How many of the FS trainsets are
registered in Switzerland?
All ETR 610 have always been registered in Switzerland. Units 01, 02, 03, 04, 08, 11, 12 can be found with VKM TI, if you search with
93 85 5 610 001 etc. on www.rollingstockregister.ch

Markus, Gürbetal

csipromo
 

I saw at least one Freccio Argento ETR 610 with yellow UIC numbers which were 93 85 X 610...
I also saw at least two trainsets which did not have these larger numbers on the coach sides.
I saw at least one SBB unit which had CH-SBB and I-TI markings.
The other SBB units had 93 85 5 numbering but were not class 610. May have been RABe 503 (2nd series)

Regards

Mike C

Guerbetaler
 

Am 18.07.2019 um 00:13 schrieb csipromo:
I saw at least one Freccio Argento ETR 610 with yellow UIC numbers
which were 93 85 X 610... I also saw at least two trainsets which did
not have these larger numbers on the coach sides.
I saw at least one SBB unit which had CH-SBB and I-TI markings.
This is incorrect. But exists.

The other SBB units had 93 85 5 numbering but were not class 610. May
have been RABe 503 (2nd series)
Numbering of the 26 ETR-610, of which 7 are owned by TI and 19 by SBB,
is as follows:

First delivery, 14 trains:

93 85 5 610 001-014 as set number, single vehicles carry numbers
93 85 5 610 X01-X14, where X is 1 ... 7 beginning at the first class end
and going to second class end.

01, 02, 03, 04, 08, 11, 12 = CH-TI
05, 06, 07, 09, 10, 13, 14 = CH-SBB

Second and third delivery, 8+4 trains:

93 85 0 503 011-022 as set numbers, single vehicles carry numbers
93 85 X 503 011-022, where X is 1 and 2 for the cab cars and 3 ... 7 for
the intermediate cars, starting at the second class end.

In other words, the sets are composed like this:

610 = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
503 = 1 7 6 5 4 3 2

It is planned to renumber the 7 SBB-ETR-610 to 501 001-007 when they
will be slightly rebuilt to be like the second and third delivery.

Markus, Gürbetal

csipromo
 

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:15 PM, Guerbetaler wrote:


It is planned to renumber the 7 SBB-ETR-610 to 501 001-007 when they
will be slightly rebuilt to be like the second and third delivery.
Do you mean 503? 501 is the number assigned to the Stadler Giruno trainsets.

Regards

Mike C

Guerbetaler
 

Am 18.07.2019 um 22:45 schrieb csipromo via Groups.Io:
Do you mean 503? 501 is the number assigned to the Stadler Giruno trainsets.
yes, of course. sorry

Markus