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Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 03.10.2019 um 05:01 schrieb Bill Bolton:
IIRC for our visit to Murren last year, the "goods" transport
platform is slung under the cable car body
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Muerrenbahn-01.jpg>

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

gordonwis
 

Virtually all modern trams are modular and each segment can be quite short and lightweight, so each segment might not even be beyond the normal 'tonnage' that can be handled by the cable car facilities, if not then each segment would probably fit on a suitable vehicle and taken up the road

Re: RhB coaching stock formations

Guerbetaler
 

Are now on the vagonWEB.cz site at
<https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=RhB&kategorie=R&rok=2019>
and the two pages following
Another point: PE, RE , IR and EXT are separately listed. You find the menue on the left side:

RhB: PE RE IR R EXT

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: RhB coaching stock formations

Guerbetaler
 

Am 03.10.2019 um 17:52 schrieb Martin Baumann:
Are now on the vagonWEB.cz site at
<https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=RhB&kategorie=R&rok=2019>
and the two pages following
Very nicely made. But be aware that they don't distinguish EWI, EWII, EWIII and EWIV. And that Ge 4/4 III may often be replaced by Ge 4/4 II or Allegras.

Markus, Gürbetal

RhB coaching stock formations

Martin Baumann
 

Are now on the vagonWEB.cz site at

https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=RhB&kategorie=R&rok=2019 and the two pages following

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Bill Bolton
 

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:34 PM, Guerbetaler wrote:

Now, the question is, if the cabin can be taken off to attach heavier goods.
It might then be possible to transport a Tango in 6 portions (3 carbody
segments + 3 bogies) up the hill?

IIRC for our visit to Murren last year, the "goods" transport platform
is slung under the cable car body, and the ground clearance is pretty
generous. So perhaps a carbody section could just be slung under the
(empty) cabin?!?

Cheers,

Bill

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 02.10.2019 um 16:55 schrieb Chris Wood via Groups.Io:
I assume they would transport the sections separately and assemble
them after arrival. [...] I guess that it is also possible that the
sections would be light enough to contemplate the use of a heavy lift
helicopter.
I wonder if there is still a third possibility. BLM's home page says that the cable car can transport 100 passengers (= 8t) and can transport 6t of goods. It then says, that the maximum weight of the cable car is 26t. 6t + 8t + 12 t = 26t. But what is 12t?

Now, the question is, if the cabin can be taken off to attach heavier goods. It might then be possible to transport a Tango in 6 portions (3 carbody segments + 3 bogies) up the hill?

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: SBB Cargo locos

gordonwis
 

Close ups from my April trip showing the differnce between Swiss ownership (RailCare) and German ownership (SBB Cargo International 193 in 'full Swiss livery')

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

KEMPKENS, Klaus [DE]
 

I know it is quite early, but the interesting question is: how will they get up there ? (as the funicular has been replaced by a ropeway years ago) ?

Klaus Kempkens

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Chris Wood
 

I assume they would transport the sections separately and assemble them after arrival. In which case the transfer may actually be easier than for 31, as that is probably longer than any of the sections of the new units.

I guess that it is also possible that the sections would be light enough to contemplate the use of a heavy lift helicopter.

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Max Wyss
 

Thanks, Krist,

Yeah, that's what I had in mind.

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Krist van Besien
 

It is probably going to be done the same way the Biperlisi got up there.

https://www.jungfrauzeitung.ch/artikel/103371/

It is actually possible (with the right permits and proper vehicle) to drive to Murren in summer. I once came across a team assembling a Pistenbully in Winteregg, and they had several vans and trucks with material they had just driven up there.

You can drive to Wengen in summer as well, by going via Grindelwald and Kleine Scheidegg…

Krist

On Oct 2, 2019, 10:40 +0200, Clive Dean <dixie@...>, wrote:
It is going to be interesting to see how they get them up to the railway
line. A member of staff has suggested that they will come up the road that
forms the winter piste down to Lauterbrunnen on the back of some trucks.
However, that road has a number of hairpin bends!


Re: Swisstrain WLABmz type MU question

Rob V
 

On 01/10/2019 21:36, Martin Baumann wrote:

They appear to be owned by railsi now
http://www.railsi.at/shop/shop.php?detail=1264420963
http://www.railsi.at/shop/data/container/Datenblatt-WLABm-UMU.pdf
Thanks, Martin. Much appreciated.

--
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Max Wyss
 

This is well possible; there are some very special vehicles around which
can handle such big loads. I believe to remember reading about a similar
transport.

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Clive Dean
 

It is going to be interesting to see how they get them up to the railway
line. A member of staff has suggested that they will come up the road that
forms the winter piste down to Lauterbrunnen on the back of some trucks.
However, that road has a number of hairpin bends!

Re: RhB snips

Thomas
 

They plan to use 414 on the historic trains until the end of the season on October 27.

Rgds, Thomas.

Re: Swisstrain WLABmz type MU question

Martin Baumann
 

Re: RhB snips

Robin Jorimann
 

Found what they are now! Sorry to learn about the Crocodile. Perhaps they will have a rethink on the Davos - Filisur daily heritage service and what locomotives operate it.

Re: RhB snips

Robin Jorimann
 

gbgen wrote:
Posting on DSO (German forum) quotes 415 as having suffered a significant failure, no further details given.
Also 516 is scheduled to be taken out of traffic this autumn.
Forgive my ignorance but what are these, please

Swisstrain WLABmz type MU question

Rob V
 

Hi all,

Can anyone advise me of the current situation or location of 61 81 72-70 610-2 & 612-8?

These are the former CIWL 4802 & 4804 respectively, WLABmz type MU built Waggon und Maschinenbau, Donauwörth 1967.

I haven't seen them for some years but they were last reported at Wien Westbahnhof c.2011 carrying keeper code A-SWISS, which I assume to be Swisstrain SA although the correct VKM would be A-SWTR.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
--
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7