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Re: Meter gauge Stadler Electro-Diesels, Diesels and Battery-Electrics

Martin Baumann
 

512 and 513 which was posted on this group by Thomas on March 27

Re: Meter gauge Stadler Electro-Diesels, Diesels and Battery-Electrics

Guerbetaler
 

Am 14.10.2019 um 13:58 schrieb Martin Baumann:
The CJ units are 521 and 522 and not as originally planned.
And what do you think had originally been planned?
Markus, Gürbetal

Re: Meter gauge Stadler Electro-Diesels, Diesels and Battery-Electrics

Martin Baumann
 

The CJ units are 521 and 522 and not as originally planned.

Re: P/400 & C400 Cauge Clearances along the Lötschberg Rout

Guerbetaler
 

Am 12.10.2019 um 21:27 schrieb John Beaulieu:
https://www.trasse.ch/file/2.5%20Network%20Statement/2.5.2%20SBB/C1_Network_Statement_SBB_2019_EN.pdf
This is the Network Statement. AB-FDV I-30111 is still an additional document, which also contains maps. I will find it, but perhaps next week.

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: P/400 & C400 Cauge Clearances along the Lötschberg Rout

John Beaulieu
 

Thank you Markus, with the code 1-30111 AB-FDV is was able to find the PDF containing all the information I was looking for and more. I will be digging through the wealth of information for quite some time. The complete document for 2019 is available regarding access to the SBB Railway network at this address;

https://www.trasse.ch/file/2.5%20Network%20Statement/2.5.2%20SBB/C1_Network_Statement_SBB_2019_EN.pdf

John Beaulieu

Re: Lake Geneva diagram query

Guerbetaler
 

Am 11.10.2019 um 00:32 schrieb gordonwis via Groups.Io:
Data entry error seemed the most likely
It wasn't a data error. In the internal systems the trains were correctly timetabled. But they were there like service trains or private trains, without publication. Only this point had to be corrected.

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: Neuchatel Littorail

Guerbetaler
 

Am 11.10.2019 um 00:53 schrieb gordonwis via Groups.Io:
No confirmation yet of the date of entry into service of the new stock
The information I gave was not only local but also official (from transN). So you can expect start of commercial service of the ex-AB trainsets by mid-November.

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: Lake Geneva diagram query

gordonwis
 

Data entry error seemed the most likely, as it was incredibly unlikely that the services would run one way on the morning and not back again in the evening

Re: Neuchatel Littorail

gordonwis
 

I can confirm from a local source that 27 Oct is just a celebration. It is definitely not the last day in normal service of the current vehicles. No confirmation yet of the date of entry into service of the new stock

Re: ICE 4 test passenger services Basel-Interlaken

Toma Bacic
 

Re: P/400 & C400 Cauge Clearances along the Lötschberg Rout

Guerbetaler
 

Am 11.10.2019 um 22:51 schrieb John Beaulieu:
Is there such a map published by the BAV or perhaps by SBB Infra showing clearances within Switzerland?
Such maps have to be published by the infrastructure manager. Information is in I-30111 AB-FDV, but I can't find this at the moment. The newest version is from 01.07.2019.

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: P/400 & C400 Cauge Clearances along the Lötschberg Rout

Guerbetaler
 

Am 09.10.2019 um 21:32 schrieb csipromo via Groups.Io:
I have never heard the term SIM for trains.
Look at the official document
Designation of trains 2020 (PDF, 886 KB)
at
<https://company.sbb.ch/en/sbb-as-business-partner/services-rus/onestopshop/track-access.html>

There you will find that train numbers 43500-43799 and 63400-63799
are SIM trains. These numbers are recognised by signal box software,
so that these trains will always remain on tracks where they are
allowed.

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: P/400 & C400 Cauge Clearances along the Lötschberg Rout

John Beaulieu
 

My original question derived from the fact that I was aware of the clearance project for Dosto passenger carriages, but from looking at the map it seems that not all of the routes cleared for Dosto stock have sufficient clearances for 4.0 meter trailers. Now this doesn't appear to be a problem on routes that lack tunnels, hence the fact that the route from Kruezlingen to St. Margarethen is shown as clear. Is there such a map published by the BAV or perhaps by SBB Infra showing clearances within Switzerland? The portion of the map covering Switzerland as published by Interunit for the UIRR shows non-standard colors for Switzerland and relies on notations.

As a separate question is the tunnel just west of Aarau station cleared for 4.0 meter high containers? It seems odd if it wasn't as that tunnel is the only one separating the Intermodal terminal at Aarau from the cleared lines. Also does anyone know if the Heitersberg Tunnel has enough clearance? This would allow a terminal to be sited in the Zürich area and also possibly to reach the existing terminal at Glattbrug.

John Beaulieu

Re: SBB - BLS various bits 10/10/2019

David Prior
 

Hi Keith

I pass Thommen scrap merchants at Kaiseraugst in a regular basis to/ from work, and I reported the Loks you saw a while back. If you’re interested 11232 is with 11166, and the 610 is 11456.

David

SBB - BLS various bits 10/10/2019

Keith Hookham
 

Hello & here is some “gen” from the last couple of days in
Switzerland. Mainly I have been doing track, units & trams as well as
having a meeting but the following have been noted.
09/10 11164 GPE train.

10/10 New unit 501003 stood on test at Stein-Säckingen. Also 501002 I
believe seen running into Zürich also on test. Also at Kaiseraugst (I
think it is called) the following were seen waiting to meet the
cutting touch. 420231 & a n other. A red AE 6/6, various RBS units
surplus to requirements & a set of SOB Volrapen Express coaches.

I also had a meeting with my BLS contact who confirmed that the 420s
will only last until 2021 when the new FLIRTS take over.
The Brown bombers have about 3 more years left. The car shuttles will
be taken over then by 465s eventually. Out of the RE425s left they
hope at least one more will go to Historic.
The 465s will come off the service to La Chaux-de-Fonds to also be
replaced by the new FLIRTS. Finally the Bern-Biel service will be
going from SBB to BLS from December and the SBB 511s will be replaced
by new 515s.

Cheers Keith.

Re: P/400 & C400 Cauge Clearances along the Lötschberg Rout

Guerbetaler
 

Am 10.10.2019 um 20:58 schrieb john_dmj:
What was the 'Purple route' through the Lötschberg?
That's the signal colour of the SIM (see previous posts)

Re: P/400 & C400 Cauge Clearances along the Lötschberg Rout

Guerbetaler
 

Am 10.10.2019 um 20:31 schrieb Toma Bacic:
On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 8:27 PM Guerbetaler wrote:
No, it was as John said, they all had to take the road. The Gotthard
still isn't available for high cube and full size piggy back. This
should be ready by 2020. And this will also allow double deck passenger
trains.
Somewhere I've read that SBB is planing to modify "2nd 4 meters
corridor"... Any details?
The second 4 m corridor is the Gotthard route. This was ordered (and is paid for) by the Confederation in order to allow the growing number of high cube containers to cross the Alps on two routes. This is badly needed because any of the two routes may be closed for some time, maybe for maintenance, maybe due to nature forces.

While the GBT was built for a larger clearance, the Bötzberg Tunnel and some of the shorter tunnels along the Lake of Lucerne needed treatment. In the case of the Bötzberg the solution was to build a new tunnel instead of refurbishing and widening the old one.

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: P/400 & C400 Cauge Clearances along the Lötschberg Rout

john_dmj
 

On 11 October 2019 at 00:01 Toma Bacic <toma.bacic@...> wrote:


On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 8:27 PM Guerbetaler wrote:

No, it was as John said, they all had to take the road. The Gotthard
still isn't available for high cube and full size piggy back. This
should be ready by 2020. And this will also allow double deck passenger
trains.
Somewhere I've read that SBB is planing to modify "2nd 4 meters
corridor"... Any details?
What was the 'Purple route' through the Lötschberg?

Re: Lake Geneva diagram query

David Prior
 

Good evening Markus.

Yes, tonight I see those three return services back in the online timetable again. Seems that the least likely of my possible scenarios (SBB error!) was indeed the case. Knowing how busy those trains are to supplement the capacity on the Genève Aéroport-Brig route, I was really puzzled they would vanish.

Thanks for your interest and investigations.

David

Re: P/400 & C400 Cauge Clearances along the Lötschberg Rout

Toma Bacic
 

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 8:27 PM Guerbetaler wrote:

No, it was as John said, they all had to take the road. The Gotthard
still isn't available for high cube and full size piggy back. This
should be ready by 2020. And this will also allow double deck passenger
trains.
Somewhere I've read that SBB is planing to modify "2nd 4 meters
corridor"... Any details?

regards & thank you
toma