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Re: RhB: first Ge 4/4 II withdrawn

Gbgen
 

Re: 2 Interesting Sightings

csipromo
 

Re: Meter gauge Stadler Electro-Diesels, Diesels and Battery-Electrics

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 05.11.2019 um 01:22 schrieb Max Wyss:
Maybe nitpicking or stupid question: Does Db also count as "simple
conditions", or is it not covered by that regulation at all?
See official initials DBZ :-)

Re: Meter gauge Stadler Electro-Diesels, Diesels and Battery-Electrics

Max Wyss
 

Maybe nitpicking or stupid question: Does Db also count as "simple
conditions", or is it not covered by that regulation at all?

Max.


Re: SBB-P Re 4/4 II potential withdrawals

Martin Baumann
 

This would depend on what spare parts are in stock and how long the type of locomotive will remain in service but at present anything reusable will be removed from locos like 11152.

11642 has a damaged transformer which it is not economical to repair

2 Interesting Sightings

Simon Close
 

A couple of interesting sighting on my recent 8-day Swiss Pass

1) 18/10/2019 Re4/4i (unidentified but early series with corridor connection and grilles) in Limmathal Yard coupled to some tank wagons
2) 23/10/2019 Gem4/4 801 in siding at St Peter-Molinis on the Arosa Bahn, where some construction work was going on

Re: Meter gauge Stadler Electro-Diesels, Diesels and Battery-Electrics

Guerbetaler
 

Am 04.11.2019 um 15:12 schrieb KEMPKENS, Klaus [DE]:
In Germany there is a difference between "locos" (for Diesels, 200s series) and "Kleinloks" (literally "small locos", 300s series), the latter requiring not a full engine driver license. [...] Is there
something similar in Switzerland, with Tm/ Tmh being similar to
"Kleinlok" ?
Traktor is in fact the Swiss word for Kleinlok. And there had been a rule of the type that persons with a formation for shunting could be instructed to drive a tractor (Traktorführer). This has disappeared with the national categories for driver licences. There is no restriction about the type of motive power. The categories are:

<https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classified-compilation/20092177/index.html#a4>

A40 = shunting within stations max 40 km/h
A = shunting max 60 km/h and restricted load
B60 = max 60 km/h on "simple conditions" railways
B80 = max 80 km/h and restricted load and max 1200 t
B100 = max 100 km/h and restricted load
B = no restriction

restricted load = 600 t on grades above 25‰ and max 200 t on steep narrow gauge lines.

"simple conditions" railways are: BLM, BRB, DBZ, DFB, GGB, JB, MG,
MIB, MVR-BC, MVR-MGN, PB, RB, AB-RHB, AB-RhW, RiT, SEHR, BOB-SPB, ST,
TL-M2, TRN-RdB, VVT, WAB

Markus

Re: Meter gauge Stadler Electro-Diesels, Diesels and Battery-Electrics

KEMPKENS, Klaus [DE]
 

Markus wrote: "HGm, Gm and Gea
or then
Tmh, Tm and Tea - logic?"

In Germany there is a difference between "locos" (for Diesels, 200s series) and "Kleinloks" (literally "small locos", 300s series), the latter requiring not a full engine driver license. And the latter became larger over the years, starting at some 25 horsepowers, then in the 60s going upto 250 horsepower only, but in the 80s, the 650 horse power type 260s shunting locos became "360" type to avoid the need for a fully licensed driver. (Kleinlok license is quicker to get, driving allowed within yard limits only).

Is there something similar in Switzerland, with Tm/ Tmh being similar to "Kleinlok" ?

Klaus


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RhB derailment

Toma Bacic
 

Re: SBB-P Re 4/4 II potential withdrawals

csipromo
 

When a locomotive like 11152 is prepped for scrap, are they still removing parts to use in the maintenance of other units or are they at just point just removing hazardous parts and sending them on their way?

Regards

Mike C

Re: SBB-P Re 4/4 II potential withdrawals

Martin Baumann
 
Edited

11152 is reportedly withdrawn and will be going to the scrapyard in Lugano. The same has been reported for Re 6/6 11642 which has not had an overhaul in 8 years.

Re: SBB-P Re 4/4 II potential withdrawals

Martin Baumann
 

I missed this at the time: 11140 returned to service at the end of August

Re: Meter gauge Stadler Electro-Diesels, Diesels and Battery-Electrics

Guerbetaler
 

Am 01.11.2019 um 11:47 schrieb Martin Baumann:
The new MGB locos are described in detail at
But this still doesn't expalin why they are in different classes. HGm and Tm have exactly the same motor. So they should either be

HGm, Gm and Gea

or then

Tmh, Tm and Tea

logic?

Markus

Re: Meter gauge Stadler Electro-Diesels, Diesels and Battery-Electrics

Martin Baumann
 

The new MGB locos are described in detail at

https://tst-suisse.ch/files/861/tst-xm-hgm-tm-tea.pdf

Rigi Steam 2020

Keith Hookham
 

Accident in RBL

Martin Baumann
 

There was a side collision between 11657 and 843 006 in Zurich's Rangier Bahnhof Limmatal today. Details of any injuries or damage are not yet available

25 more Vectron for BLS

Martin Baumann
 

BLS are buying 25 more Vectron locos from Siemens to be delivered 2020-2025. They will be passed for Germany, Austria, Italy, Holland and Belgium in addition to Switzerland.

German press release: https://tinyurl.com/y2zt764j

Re: 11601 and 11602

Martin Baumann
 

11601 was moved to Sissach last week:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152440859@N03/48967827942

The caption suggests 11602 will be used for parts only. (It had been very heavily stripped by SBB at Bellinzona). 11601 will need several repairs including damage caused by an electrical fire.

11601 last ran in service 28.08.2015 and 11602 31.10.2014

Re: Obituary

Martin Baumann
 

Sad news indeed. Although I never met him I was in touch with him about infrastructure matters several times and he was always very helpful

Obituary

Guerbetaler
 

Today the sad news reached me that Hans G. Wägli, author of Schienennetz Schweiz and many other publications has passed away last Tuesday. Funeral will be on 31st October 2019 in Grafenried. Hans G. Wägli was born in 1947 and has been a long-time SBB employee.

Markus, Gürbetal