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Re: Lake Geneva diagram query

Guerbetaler
 

Am 07.10.2019 um 16:08 schrieb David Prior via Groups.Io:
I discovered today that SBB mobile timetable no longer shows the
return workings of IR1927/29/31 from Geneva Aeroport off the
following Re4/4 diagrams.
​1927 ​Genève-Aéroport – Sion​ 16.20 – 18.33
​1929​ Genève-Aéroport – St Maurice ​16.54 – 18.43
​1931 ​Genève-Aéroport – Sion ​17.20 – 19.33
fahrplanfelder.ch and reisezuege.ch still show them. The online timetable says, they run 29 July - 4 October. I'm investigating which info is correct.

Markus, Gürbetal

Lake Geneva diagram query

David Prior
 

Dear All,

I discovered today that SBB mobile timetable no longer shows the return workings of IR1927/29/31 from Geneva Aeroport off the following Re4/4 diagrams.

The outbound morning trains 1904/6/8 are all still shown as running as before. Does anyone know whether they now run ECS back, or operate some other services, or it’s a timetable error (admittedly very unlikely for SBB!) or ...... ?

Cheers, David

612.3
​1906​Sion – Genève-Aéroport​06.38 – 08.30
​1929​Genève-Aéroport – St Maurice​16.54 – 18.43


612.9
​1908​St-Maurice – Genève-Aéroport​07.17 – 09.02
​1931​Genève-Aéroport – Sion​17.20 – 19.33

612.10
​1904​Sion – Genève-Aéroport​05.51 – 08.02
​1927​Genève-Aéroport – Sion​16.20 – 18.33

Re: RhB 415

daigog218
 

Confirmed 415 in fine fettle!

Re: RhB 415

daigog218
 

Assume 415 is out today as well then. 414 is in the roundhouse at Landquart (with 704/707).

RhB 415

Des Von Devon
 

GB wrote on 01/10/2019 at 1241:

Posting on DSO (German forum) quotes 415 as having suffered a significant failure, no further details given.
Des: Fortunately 415 was back out yesterday, Saturday 05 October 2019.  A colleague rode behind 415 on trains 1839 and 1846.

Re: RhB coaching stock formations

Guerbetaler
 

Am 04.10.2019 um 00:55 schrieb gordonwis via Groups.Io:
Another point: PE, RE , IR and EXT are separately listed. You find
the menue on the left side:
RhB: PE RE IR R EXT
It's also incomplete! Most of the main Albula trains are not listed,
These are IR. I find tehm all...


plus many Landquart - Davos missing
And these are RE :-)

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: RhB coaching stock formations

gordonwis
 

Another point: PE, RE , IR and EXT are separately listed. You find the
menue on the left side:

RhB: PE RE IR R EXT
It's also incomplete! Most of the main Albula trains are not listed, plus many Landquart - Davos missing

Re: RhB coaching stock formations

glenn allen
 

Are now on the vagonWEB.cz site at
<https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=RhB&kategorie=R&rok=2019>
and the two pages following

Another point: PE, RE , IR and EXT are separately listed. You find the
menue on the left side:
If you right click on the drawings you can save a copy of each vehicle type. NO idea what you would do with them after that. Most vehicles come in a left and right hand version.
NO sign of any oil tankers tacked on the back of St Moritz to Tirano services, I suspect that is because they are not booked workings.

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 03.10.2019 um 05:01 schrieb Bill Bolton:
IIRC for our visit to Murren last year, the "goods" transport
platform is slung under the cable car body
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Muerrenbahn-01.jpg>

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

gordonwis
 

Virtually all modern trams are modular and each segment can be quite short and lightweight, so each segment might not even be beyond the normal 'tonnage' that can be handled by the cable car facilities, if not then each segment would probably fit on a suitable vehicle and taken up the road

Re: RhB coaching stock formations

Guerbetaler
 

Are now on the vagonWEB.cz site at
<https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=RhB&kategorie=R&rok=2019>
and the two pages following
Another point: PE, RE , IR and EXT are separately listed. You find the menue on the left side:

RhB: PE RE IR R EXT

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: RhB coaching stock formations

Guerbetaler
 

Am 03.10.2019 um 17:52 schrieb Martin Baumann:
Are now on the vagonWEB.cz site at
<https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=RhB&kategorie=R&rok=2019>
and the two pages following
Very nicely made. But be aware that they don't distinguish EWI, EWII, EWIII and EWIV. And that Ge 4/4 III may often be replaced by Ge 4/4 II or Allegras.

Markus, Gürbetal

RhB coaching stock formations

Martin Baumann
 

Are now on the vagonWEB.cz site at

https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=RhB&kategorie=R&rok=2019 and the two pages following

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Bill Bolton
 

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:34 PM, Guerbetaler wrote:

Now, the question is, if the cabin can be taken off to attach heavier goods.
It might then be possible to transport a Tango in 6 portions (3 carbody
segments + 3 bogies) up the hill?

IIRC for our visit to Murren last year, the "goods" transport platform
is slung under the cable car body, and the ground clearance is pretty
generous. So perhaps a carbody section could just be slung under the
(empty) cabin?!?

Cheers,

Bill

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 02.10.2019 um 16:55 schrieb Chris Wood via Groups.Io:
I assume they would transport the sections separately and assemble
them after arrival. [...] I guess that it is also possible that the
sections would be light enough to contemplate the use of a heavy lift
helicopter.
I wonder if there is still a third possibility. BLM's home page says that the cable car can transport 100 passengers (= 8t) and can transport 6t of goods. It then says, that the maximum weight of the cable car is 26t. 6t + 8t + 12 t = 26t. But what is 12t?

Now, the question is, if the cabin can be taken off to attach heavier goods. It might then be possible to transport a Tango in 6 portions (3 carbody segments + 3 bogies) up the hill?

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: SBB Cargo locos

gordonwis
 

Close ups from my April trip showing the differnce between Swiss ownership (RailCare) and German ownership (SBB Cargo International 193 in 'full Swiss livery')

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

KEMPKENS, Klaus [DE]
 

I know it is quite early, but the interesting question is: how will they get up there ? (as the funicular has been replaced by a ropeway years ago) ?

Klaus Kempkens

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Chris Wood
 

I assume they would transport the sections separately and assemble them after arrival. In which case the transfer may actually be easier than for 31, as that is probably longer than any of the sections of the new units.

I guess that it is also possible that the sections would be light enough to contemplate the use of a heavy lift helicopter.

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Max Wyss
 

Thanks, Krist,

Yeah, that's what I had in mind.

Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Krist van Besien
 

It is probably going to be done the same way the Biperlisi got up there.

https://www.jungfrauzeitung.ch/artikel/103371/

It is actually possible (with the right permits and proper vehicle) to drive to Murren in summer. I once came across a team assembling a Pistenbully in Winteregg, and they had several vans and trucks with material they had just driven up there.

You can drive to Wengen in summer as well, by going via Grindelwald and Kleine Scheidegg…

Krist

On Oct 2, 2019, 10:40 +0200, Clive Dean <dixie@...>, wrote:
It is going to be interesting to see how they get them up to the railway
line. A member of staff has suggested that they will come up the road that
forms the winter piste down to Lauterbrunnen on the back of some trucks.
However, that road has a number of hairpin bends!