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Re: 501 diagram

Martin Baumann
 

Tomorrow 20.08.2019

675 13:04 Basel-Lugano

688 17:34 Lugano-Basel

are expected to be a pair of 501 units

06.10.2019 special train with Ae 3/6 I 10664

Martin Baumann
 

To DVZO 50th anniversary celebrations:

https://www.historic-ostschweiz.ch/Fahrten/

Re: 06.10.2019 special train with Ae 3/6 I 10664

Chris Wood
 

That url doesn't work for me, but https://www.historic-ostschweiz.ch/fahrten/ does work. Perhaps they changed it.

RhB engineering work

Clive Barlow
 

Even though the published timetables on fahrplanfelder show trains running to Scuol-Tarasp again from 8th Sept, it appears that the engineering work is actually on until 5th Oct.

Cheers

Clive

Re: RhB engineering work

Guerbetaler
 

Am 21.08.2019 um 08:30 schrieb Clive Barlow:
Even though the published timetables on fahrplanfelder show trains
running to Scuol-Tarasp again from 8th Sept, it appears that the
engineering work is actually on until 5th Oct.
Already in June RhB informed that the closure of the Unterengadin will last longer than planned. During the works in Magnacun tunnel the constructing firms encountered important problems which made a reopening in Septmeber impossible. RhB told me that it wasn't easy to find buses AND drivers for the additional month. Online timetables and homepages have been updated.

For those who can read German:
<https://www.engadinerpost.ch/2019/6/19/Die-Totalsperre-der-RhB-im-Unterengadin-dauert-laenger>
<https://www.rhb.ch/de/unternehmen/projekte-dossiers/totalsperrung-unterengadin>

Markus, Gürbetal

Summer closures last longer

Guerbetaler
 

Apart from the Unterengadin line of RhB which will remain closed for one more month, also SOB encountered problems with tunnel engineering work:

The reopening of the St. Gallen - Herisau line had to be postponed after parts of the tunnel arch collapsed during works on it. Closure is now
06.07.2019 01:40 through 26.08.2019 04:00.

Obviously not easy to repair tunnels...

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: RhB engineering work

glenn allen
 

Even though the published timetables on fahrplanfelder show trains running to Scuol-Tarasp again from 8th Sept, it appears that the engineering work is actually on until 5th Oct.
Clive

➢ SBB timetable pages show a bus service from Susch as it is as present.
Mucks up my planned trip to Austria in 3 weeks time.

RhB loco allocations

daigog218
 

Hi all,

Is it still possible to obtain a list showing the allocations of RhB locos in service on the day (Lokdienst)? I believe this used to be possible from either the ticket office or the station café/bar at Filisur - is it still available there or anywhere else?

Many thanks

Dave

Chur - Arosa

Toma Bacic
 

Hello all!
What is the reason, why in post-1997 time, RhB never introduced through
services to Arosa? E.g. Landquart - Arosa, etc...?

regards & thank you
toma

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Re: Chur - Arosa

john_dmj
 

My suspicion is that the train would have to cross the standard gauge tracks at Chur, an operation which may not be permitted or covered by insurance.

On 22 August 2019 at 23:29 Toma Bacic <toma.bacic@...> wrote:


Hello all!
What is the reason, why in post-1997 time, RhB never introduced through
services to Arosa? E.g. Landquart - Arosa, etc...?

regards & thank you
toma

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Re: Chur - Arosa

Guerbetaler
 

Am 22.08.2019 um 21:06 schrieb john_dmj:
My suspicion is that the train would have to cross the standard gauge
tracks at Chur, an operation which may not be permitted or covered by
insurance.
It is permitted and can be done/has been done for extra workings. But this only works from Landquart direction to Arosa, not from Disentis or Arosa.

Landquart - Arosa isn't a market. Additionally you would rather take the faster standard gauge train in Landquart to Chur and change there. Standard gauge needs 8 or 9 min, meter gauge 18 or 19 min.

People travelling to Arosa come from Zürich or St. Gallen direction, if not locally from Chur. A few might also come from Thusis, Ilanz oder Lenzerheide direction, maybe also from Klosters, Davos or Scuol. But this doesn't fill trains.

If the train from Scuol continues to Disentis, this isn't to cover a big demand of passengers wishing to travel Scuol - Disentis. It's rather for those from Klosters direction who want to go to Chur, so they can remain seated.

Markus, Gürbetal

Re: RhB loco allocations

Clive Barlow
 

I understand that if you pay to join the RhB Club you have access to this info.

They always used to available from red caps, but red caps seem to be a thing of the past.

Personally I consult the shunters sheets on the trolleys on the main platform at Landquart.

Cheers

Clive

Re: RhB engineering work

Clive Barlow
 

I see now that it the decision was taken some months ago, I just anticipated that the official pdf timetables might be updated. Is it that the timetable from 8th Sept will be exactly the same as that until 7th Sept? Are there any updated pdfs to be found? I deliberately planned to go in in the second half of September so as to avoid the works too.....

Re: RhB loco allocations

glenn allen
 

Is it still possible to obtain a list showing the allocations of RhB locos in service on the day (Lokdienst)? I believe this used to be possible from either the ticket office or the station café/bar at Filisur - is it still available there or anywhere else?
➢ I think it is only available online to members of the RhB insider club

https://www.rhbclub.ch/en

Re: Chur - Arosa

glenn allen
 

My suspicion is that the train would have to cross the standard gauge tracks at Chur, an operation which may not be permitted or covered by insurance.
Would it not be more a question of the logistics of the shunt move from the RhB main lines (track 10) across the SBB lines to the Arosa side. The plan to move the Arosa tracks to a new set of platforms was considered as too expensive.
It would be possible to install new tracks over the SBB lines after they’ve got out of the station area. Again, a question of cost.

Bm4/4 18415

David Prior
 

Loco is parked at west end of Basel SBB this morning... anyone know why ? On its way for scrap, or a better life ?

Slow up Emmental 8 Sep

gbgen <gbgen@...>
 

8. September 2019 the following 2 train formations are planned:
Elektrolokomotive Be 4/4 Nr. 102, Personenwagen Bi und ABDi, Gepäckwagen K2, Flachwagen S4t (typähnlich)
Dampflokomotive Eb 3/5 Nr. 5810, Personenwagen Bi und C2, Gepäckwagen F2

Timetable here:-
http://www.emmentalbahn.ch/images/pdf/Flyer_Slow-Up19.pdf

Re: Chur - Arosa

gordonwis
 

On Thursday, 22 August 2019, 22:45:44 BST, glenn allen via Groups.Io <glenn_rhb=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
It would be possible to install new tracks over the SBB lines after they’ve got out of the station area. Again, a question of cost.
As Markus says, Arosa works perfectly well without through services, so spending huge sums to create something is a low priority, there are more important things for money to be spent on in Graubunden I think

Re: RhB engineering work

gordonwis
 

On Thursday, 22 August 2019, 22:37:52 BST, Clive Barlow <b25ss@...> wrote:
I see now that it the decision was taken some months ago, I just anticipated that the official pdf timetables might be updated. Is it that the timetable from 8th Sept will be exactly the same as that until 7th Sept? Are there any updated pdfs to be found? I deliberately planned to go in in the second half of September so as to avoid the works too.....
Fahrplanfelder PDFs aren't updated as a matter of course, so I'm not surprised they haven't been. The fallback is for the authorities to sate "consult on line timetables"

SBB-P 420 133 on freight

davey
 

Noted 12.50 today heading through Pratteln towards Muttenz with short rake if containers