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Status of all Re 6/6 Locomotives 04.12.2019

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Without guarantee for completeness

Currently remaining:

20 A 18-35 EW I

42 B 20-35 EW I

7 AB 30-35 EW I

3 AB 39-35 EW II

6 BDt 82-33 (910-939) EW II (not including 917 not yet reported withdrawn but at Kaiseraugst)

6 BDt 82-33 (960-992) EW I (not including 982 not yet reported withdrawn but at Kaiseraugst)

2 BDt 82-34 EWI


Also Green EWII B 20-34 588 is still in stock and in the NVR but is not in traffic and its location is unknown

2020 version

https://www.zsr.sk/pre-cestujucich/elis-vas-pocitac/

Instructions are only in Slovak but google translate helped.

This year you need to install both

Inštalačný súbor aplikácie PCVnutro.exe

and

Súbor s dátami pre spoje osobnej vlakovej dopravy k CP 2019/2020 pre Slovensko Vlak20Sk.exe

both of which are towards the middle of the page

Am 30.11.2019 um 01:35 schrieb gordonwis via Groups.Io:

Lots of trains to Coppet with the new 15 min Leman Express servce,
but no sign of a new graphic showing trains beyond La Praille to Eaux
Vives

Graphic 112 has now been extended to Annemasse.

And all graphics 101 ... 791 are now uploaded. Also many private railway graphics have now arrived.

Markus, Gürbetal

Am 03.12.2019 um 19:49 schrieb Andrew Moglestue via Groups.Io:

Have any rebuilt coaches been set aside by SBB Historic? Or are they
preserving only examples in original condition.

Only rebuilt coaches at SBBH. There were no more coaches in original condition to be set aside.

Markus, Gürbetal

Have any rebuilt coaches been set aside by SBB Historic? Or are they preserving only examples in original condition.

Thanks Martin.

The Basel commuters were already discernible in the 'Zuggattungslist' (Z list) discussed a few days ago, The Domo EWII also fairly close to what is shown in the Z list, but the forum list possibly makes the situation slightly less vague than the listing on the 'Z' list with its mention of EWIV

Am 03.12.2019 um 11:45 schrieb Andrew Moglestue via Groups.Io:

I'm not aware of there being any IR or Comfort coaches left in service.

It was the door system that made them go to the scrapyard before the NPZ coaches. Furthermore it is no longer allowed to use EW I/II NPZ other than in push-pull consists with Re 420 and BDt. Only with Vst III coupled, the doors can be locked (to avoid passengers to alight on the wrong side).

Markus, Gürbetal

I'm not aware of there being any IR or Comfort coaches left in service.

All the ones I've seen of late are the NPZ liveried ones, with 2+2 seating in 1st class.

Yes Chris,

over classic route with 11666 both ways. Next Re6/6 tour in July 2020, Luino and Bellinzona to Schaffhausen.

H

Thank you Gordon, and I agree it is very nicely laid out.

Fahrplanfelder, the go to site for the Swiss timetable PDFs has a new point to point timetable search engine starting with the new timetable on 15/12

Basic point to point option already available, 'personal timetable' and 'customised departure board' obviously planned but currently showing as 'not yet available'

https://fahrplanauskunft-oev.transportdatamanagement.ch/qv/#/EinfacheFahrplanauskunft/Suche?lang=de

It offers a very nice compact/concise view of your chosen connection - a very nice alternative to the SBB/Hafas type online timetable search - especially IMHO for experienced railway travellers and for those occasions when you don't want to buy a ticket so don't want an online timetable search cluttered up with fare purchase options

Several nice features, including:
a) tight compact vertical listing (but each separate train instantly expandable to see calling points by clicking on a plus sign) for your chosen itinerary
b) one or more individual results can be selected for printing
c) small at a glance symbols (a loco represents trains) to show how many different trains (or other mode) you will travel on, eg a sample Zurich Airport to Vitznau I did showed three consecutive connections, one with 1 train 2 bus, one with 2 train 2 bus and one with 3 train 1 bus

Are there still EWII in service or is it just EWI KLB (NPZ)?
If there are still EWII are they in IR (Papagei) or Comfort livery?

Regards

Mike C

According to Bahnforum

17042 Olten - Basel (Mo-Fr)
17046 Sissach - Basel (Mo-Fr)
17057 Laufen - Basel (Mo-Fr)
17067 Basel - Stein-Säckingen (Mo-Fr)
17082 Basel - Delémont (Mo-Fr)
17313 Basel - Olten (Mo-Fr)
3015 Brig - Domodossola (Sa)
3017 Brig - Domodossola (Mo-Fr)
3018 Domodossola - Brig (Sa)
3023 Domodossola - Brig (Sa)
3028 Domodossola - Brig
3029 Brig - Domodossola (Mo-Fr)
3030 Domodossola - Brig (Mo-Fr)

I wonder if they are planning to shut down the line for an extended period to make the necessary changes to the electrification, or whether this will be done in a stepwise manner while the line continues to operate, maybe with the occasional weekend or late night blocakde.

One problem with a stepwise transition is that as soon as you have even a short section of AC, the old Siemens units can no longer be used. If the new Stadler units cannot run on DC, you basically end up with a situation in which neither type can be used.

Thus the decison to go with dual system units suggests to me that a stepwise rather than a big-bang transition is being envisioned.

But the Stadler Facebook page says this about the order:

"Die Sihltal Zürich Uetliberg Bahn (SZU) hat Stadler gestern den Zuschlag über die Lieferung von fünf weiteren Zweispannungs-Triebzügen erteilt"

So these new Be 570 units will in fact be dual-voltage, just like the existing Be 510 units, after all. I wonder why they are being given a different type classification; I guess there must some other differences.

Presumably they have chosen to go dual-voltage because of the likelihood that the re-electrification project, even though accepted as part of the 2021 to 2024 funding plan, will not be finished in time for a train due to be in passenger service in 2022.

I presume it worked over the classic Gotthard route rather than though the base tunnel. Was that hauled by 11666 as well?.

Hello Mike,

The pan was up throughout the climb and it was powering out of Arth Goldau and both loops. It then worked Biberbrugg to Einsiedeln and Biberbrugg down the hill to Arth on the way back. So both the Re6/6 and the 421 powered uphill to make sure acceleration was at its best and avoid delaying the intensive service train schedule.

Hope that helps
H

Am 01.12.2019 um 18:03 schrieb Toma Bacic:

Is it still possible to download the graphic timetables for 2018/9?

Yes, all graphic timetables that have ever been uploaded are still available. Go to the last entry "ZVJ". There is a list with links.

Markus, Gürbetal

Thank you for the information!
Is it still possible to download the graphic timetables for 2018/9?

regards
toma