Oil


Payson
 

Good morning,

Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?

Thanks,

Payson.


ww_big_al
 

Mine has been MOBIL VELOCITE 10 Spindle Oil. I use it on all my spindles. Mill, surface grinder, SB lathe

 

Al

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> On Behalf Of Payson
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:56 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

 

Good morning,
Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?

Thanks,


Andrei
 

Mobil Velocite 10

you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Payson <egreene104@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:58 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
Good morning,

Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?

Thanks,

Payson.


G K
 

Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.  If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post.



On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Mobil Velocite 10

you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Payson <egreene104@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:58 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
Good morning,

Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?

Thanks,

Payson.


Andrei
 

Penn Tools also sells it. You have to pay shipping there. At amazon it is free delivery, if it comes back in stock


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of G K via groups.io <bug_hunter2000@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 10:10 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <southbendlathe@groups.io>; SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.  If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post.



On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Mobil Velocite 10

you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Payson <egreene104@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:58 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
Good morning,

Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?

Thanks,

Payson.


ww_big_al
 

PTS-tools  (Solutions) has it. If you are near them, it is free shipping to their store.

https://www.pts-tools.com/search/catalogue/group/1?kw=MOBIL%20VELOCITE%2010%20Spindle%20Oil

 

Al

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 10:13 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

 

Penn Tools also sells it. You have to pay shipping there. At amazon it is free delivery, if it comes back in stock


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of G K via groups.io <bug_hunter2000@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 10:10 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <southbendlathe@groups.io>; SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

 

Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.  If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post.

 

 

 

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

 

 

Mobil Velocite 10

 

you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Payson <egreene104@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:58 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

 

Good morning,

Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?

Thanks,

Payson.


scritch
 

Saw a gallon advertised on ebay this morning.


Bill in OKC too
 

This stuff is supposed to be equivalent to Velocite #10...


HTH!

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. 
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better



On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:10:15 AM CST, G K via groups.io <bug_hunter2000@...> wrote:


Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.  If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post.



On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Mobil Velocite 10

you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Payson <egreene104@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:58 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
Good morning,

Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?

Thanks,

Payson.


G K
 

One of there locations is just up the road.  But: 

"Unfortunately, this is not a stocked product for us and we’re not able to purchase a single gallon of this product.  Sorry we’re not able to help with providing this product, but thank you for your enquiry."

But, thanks for the lead.




On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:44:55 AM CST, ww_big_al <arknack@...> wrote:


PTS-tools  (Solutions) has it. If you are near them, it is free shipping to their store.

https://www.pts-tools.com/search/catalogue/group/1?kw=MOBIL%20VELOCITE%2010%20Spindle%20Oil

 

Al

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 10:13 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

 

Penn Tools also sells it. You have to pay shipping there. At amazon it is free delivery, if it comes back in stock


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of G K via groups.io <bug_hunter2000@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 10:10 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <southbendlathe@groups.io>; SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

 

Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.  If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post.

 

 

 

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

 

 

Mobil Velocite 10

 

you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Payson <egreene104@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:58 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

 

Good morning,

Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?

Thanks,

Payson.


Payson
 

Look at www.htqinc.com
$37.75 p/g.

Have  nice weekend,

Payson.


mike allen
 

        WW Grainger usually has it , I've picked up or had stuff shipped . Do you have a Machine tool store in the commercial area where you live ? They should have it .

        These folks shoe it at $ 30.90 a gallon + freight

        https://www.westtool.com/search/catalogue/group/1?kw=Mobil%20Velocite%2010


        animal


On 1/13/2023 7:12 AM, Andrei wrote:

Penn Tools also sells it. You have to pay shipping there. At amazon it is free delivery, if it comes back in stock

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of G K via groups.io <bug_hunter2000@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 10:10 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <southbendlathe@groups.io>; SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.  If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post.



On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Mobil Velocite 10

you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Payson <egreene104@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:58 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
Good morning,

Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?

Thanks,

Payson.


engmaxx
 

McMaster Carr


On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 1:59 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

        WW Grainger usually has it , I've picked up or had stuff shipped . Do you have a Machine tool store in the commercial area where you live ? They should have it .

        These folks shoe it at $ 30.90 a gallon + freight

        https://www.westtool.com/search/catalogue/group/1?kw=Mobil%20Velocite%2010


        animal


On 1/13/2023 7:12 AM, Andrei wrote:
Penn Tools also sells it. You have to pay shipping there. At amazon it is free delivery, if it comes back in stock

Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.  If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post.



On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Mobil Velocite 10

you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Payson <egreene104@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:58 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
Good morning,

Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?

Thanks,

Payson.


John Burt
 

According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons. 
 
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon. 
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
 
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.


eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.


On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons.
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon.
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.


Andrei
 

Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:42 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.


On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons.
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon.
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.


eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

I will admit that it is a while since I bought some...



------ Original Message ------
From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 20:45
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:42 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.


On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons.
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon.
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.


eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

And presumably you are talking gallons of 3 3/4 litres, rather than gallons of 4.5 litres. Standard container size here now is 4 litres or 20 litres rather than gallons and 5 gallons that we had when I was a lad. 25 litres existed for a while, but seems to have now rationalised to 20. Next size up is 205 litres, aka "barrel", a size chosen to eliminate arguments about the requirement to store containers on sealed bunds, since that starts at 200 litres.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 20:45
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:42 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.


On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons.
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon.
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.


Andrei
 

Indeed. The U.S. Gallon is 3.7854 liters (litres on your side of the pond).

A gallon of Lucas ISO 22 oil costs here $6.08 which is 4.97 UK Pounds. And this is the cheapest I found. 

More interesting is that I found a couple of providers offering a similar gallon size for $133. Go figure. 


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:53 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
And presumably you are talking gallons of 3 3/4 litres, rather than gallons of 4.5 litres. Standard container size here now is 4 litres or 20 litres rather than gallons and 5 gallons that we had when I was a lad. 25 litres existed for a while, but seems to have now rationalised to 20. Next size up is 205 litres, aka "barrel", a size chosen to eliminate arguments about the requirement to store containers on sealed bunds, since that starts at 200 litres.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 20:45
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:42 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.


On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons.
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon.
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.


Andrei
 

I meant to say 1 Liter of Lucas ISO 22 oil, not gallon. Lost my mind temporarily. 


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Andrei <calciu1@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 4:04 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
Indeed. The U.S. Gallon is 3.7854 liters (litres on your side of the pond).

A gallon of Lucas ISO 22 oil costs here $6.08 which is 4.97 UK Pounds. And this is the cheapest I found. 

More interesting is that I found a couple of providers offering a similar gallon size for $133. Go figure. 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:53 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
 
And presumably you are talking gallons of 3 3/4 litres, rather than gallons of 4.5 litres. Standard container size here now is 4 litres or 20 litres rather than gallons and 5 gallons that we had when I was a lad. 25 litres existed for a while, but seems to have now rationalised to 20. Next size up is 205 litres, aka "barrel", a size chosen to eliminate arguments about the requirement to store containers on sealed bunds, since that starts at 200 litres.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 20:45
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:42 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.


On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons.
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon.
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.


eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

Go figure indeed! They don't need to sell much to get rich, and they probably have a glowing highly suspect technical description of how wonderful it is, so someone will buy it.


I'd use your Lucas. The SB lathe spindle is not by any stretch of the imagination an extreme application.


In British Rail's Diesel engine section at HQ we had an immensely thick file on fuel additives that snake oil salesmen tried to sell us, all aimed at saving fuel. A few got as far as a lab engine test without getting any further, as they cost more to buy than the fuel they saved (or didn't save). With the exception of 1, now I come to think of it. Water. We ran a 2500 HP Sulzer engine in traffic on a water fuel emulsion for a while, and saved a lot of fuel. The experiment unfortunately got terminated when someone shut down the engine for a weekend without running it on neat fuel for a few minutes first. By Monday, the jerk pumps were rusty internally. Ho hum.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 21:04
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

Indeed. The U.S. Gallon is 3.7854 liters (litres on your side of the pond).

A gallon of Lucas ISO 22 oil costs here $6.08 which is 4.97 UK Pounds. And this is the cheapest I found.

More interesting is that I found a couple of providers offering a similar gallon size for $133. Go figure.

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:53 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
And presumably you are talking gallons of 3 3/4 litres, rather than gallons of 4.5 litres. Standard container size here now is 4 litres or 20 litres rather than gallons and 5 gallons that we had when I was a lad. 25 litres existed for a while, but seems to have now rationalised to 20. Next size up is 205 litres, aka "barrel", a size chosen to eliminate arguments about the requirement to store containers on sealed bunds, since that starts at 200 litres.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 20:45
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:42 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.


On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.


Cheers,


Eddie




------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil

According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons.
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon.
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.