Modifying an Aloris tool holder
Don Verdiani
Westtown, PA
I have not done it, but I have several used CXA holders that milled for larger tool holders. Shouldn’t be a problem doing with a carbide bit. Maybe with a bottle of coolant to spry on the cut.
Al
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 8:54 AM
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Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Modifying an Aloris tool holder
I use an Aloris BXA tool post holder on my Heavy 10, with great success.....up to now. I bought, and then discovered, that the BXA-22 Universal Turning and Boring Holder is too big, specifically too tall, to work with my lathe. The tool point is about 1/8" above center with the block down on the compound. I touched the holder with a file, and it seems pretty hard. Anyone ever machined down an Aloris tool holder?
Don Verdiani
Westtown, PA
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 8:54 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Modifying an Aloris tool holder
Don Verdiani
Westtown, PA
On Jan 25, 2023, at 5:54 AM, Don Verdiani <DLVerdiani@...> wrote:
I use an Aloris BXA tool post holder on my Heavy 10, with great success.....up to now. I bought, and then discovered, that the BXA-22 Universal Turning and Boring Holder is too big, specifically too tall, to work with my lathe. The tool point is about 1/8" above center with the block down on the compound. I touched the holder with a file, and it seems pretty hard. Anyone ever machined down an Aloris tool holder?
Don Verdiani
Westtown, PA
... and it is the swing over the compound and not the swing over the bed that really matters.
They are hardened. You will have to use a surface grinder to modify it. 1/8 would not be a major weakening of the holder.
BXA is a bit large for a 10k lathe. AXA would have been a better choice.
AXA tool post is meant for lathes 9-12 inchesBXA tool post is meant for lathes 10-15 inches
Using a BXA puts your lathe at the low end of the size range. Clearly it has not been a major issue until now.
Just 2 cents
From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Don Verdiani <DLVerdiani@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 8:54 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Modifying an Aloris tool holderI use an Aloris BXA tool post holder on my Heavy 10, with great success.....up to now. I bought, and then discovered, that the BXA-22 Universal Turning and Boring Holder is too big, specifically too tall, to work with my lathe. The tool point is about 1/8" above center with the block down on the compound. I touched the holder with a file, and it seems pretty hard. Anyone ever machined down an Aloris tool holder?
Don Verdiani
Westtown, PA
Joe Pie has a vid where he shows how to work that without modifying the tool post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mxCvOOHWo4&ab_channel=JoePie starts @ 6:30 . I fell asleep with the TV on youtube & woke up @ 4 in the morning to that part .
animal
I use an Aloris BXA tool post holder on my Heavy 10, with great success.....up to now. I bought, and then discovered, that the BXA-22 Universal Turning and Boring Holder is too big, specifically too tall, to work with my lathe. The tool point is about 1/8" above center with the block down on the compound. I touched the holder with a file, and it seems pretty hard. Anyone ever machined down an Aloris tool holder?
Don Verdiani
Westtown, PA
That’s a really cool trick, but my problem is I need the tool to go further down and it is bottoming on the compound. Only solutions I see are to face off the bottom of the tool holder, or grind down the compound (which I am NOT going to do) so the tool can drop down to the spindle centerline.
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Modifying an Aloris tool holder
Joe Pie has a vid where he shows how to work that without modifying the tool post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mxCvOOHWo4&ab_channel=JoePie starts @ 6:30 . I fell asleep with the TV on youtube & woke up @ 4 in the morning to that part .
animal
On 1/25/2023 5:54 AM, Don Verdiani wrote:
I use an Aloris BXA tool post holder on my Heavy 10, with great success.....up to now. I bought, and then discovered, that the BXA-22 Universal Turning and Boring Holder is too big, specifically too tall, to work with my lathe. The tool point is about 1/8" above center with the block down on the compound. I touched the holder with a file, and it seems pretty hard. Anyone ever machined down an Aloris tool holder?
Don Verdiani
Westtown, PA
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:52 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Modifying an Aloris tool holder
That’s a really cool trick, but my problem is I need the tool to go further down and it is bottoming on the compound. Only solutions I see are to face off the bottom of the tool holder, or grind down the compound (which I am NOT going to do) so the tool can drop down to the spindle centerline.
From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
On Behalf Of mike allen
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:43 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Modifying an Aloris tool holder
Joe Pie has a vid where he shows how to work that without modifying the tool post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mxCvOOHWo4&ab_channel=JoePie starts @ 6:30 . I fell asleep with the TV on youtube & woke up @ 4 in the morning to that part .
animal
On 1/25/2023 5:54 AM, Don Verdiani wrote:
I use an Aloris BXA tool post holder on my Heavy 10, with great success.....up to now. I bought, and then discovered, that the BXA-22 Universal Turning and Boring Holder is too big, specifically too tall, to work with my lathe. The tool point is about 1/8" above center with the block down on the compound. I touched the holder with a file, and it seems pretty hard. Anyone ever machined down an Aloris tool holder?
Don Verdiani
Westtown, PA
I have modified a couple of Aloris tool holders using HSS. In my case,
I had a couple BX1 tool holders that wouldn't fit the dovetail on my tool
post (an Aloris BXA). I have a large 60° cutter and I made a couple of
light passes (about .003") to open up the dovetail to make it fit.
I had an occasion that I needed to lower the tool block and I just moved
the tool post on the compound so the dovetail section hung off the side
enough to allow the tool block to clear the top of the compound.
Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb
Genius idea! I’m going to try and trim the bottom of the block with a carbide cutter. If it doesn’t work out, this will be my Plan B.
Thanks!
Don
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 3:33 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Modifying an Aloris tool holder
Hi There,
I have modified a couple of Aloris tool holders using HSS. In my case,
I had a couple BX1 tool holders that wouldn't fit the dovetail on my tool
post (an Aloris BXA). I have a large 60° cutter and I made a couple of
light passes (about .003") to open up the dovetail to make it fit.
I had an occasion that I needed to lower the tool block and I just moved
the tool post on the compound so the dovetail section hung off the side
enough to allow the tool block to clear the top of the compound.
Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb
Thank you to everyone who replied. I bought a 2-flute ½” coated carbide cutter and lowered the BXA-22 tool holder block 0.220”. The steel was pretty tough, and acted like it was case-hardened, but it did cut. I ended up at 0.020” deep. 0.3” wide cuts, slow feed with mist coolant. The case hardening did some damage to the tips of the cutter, but once I got going, I continued on until done. Finally, success!
Don
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 2:31 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Modifying an Aloris tool holder
I’ve taken some off the tool shank to drop the cutter on centre on a couple of my favourite cutters, worked fine.