Light 10” South Bend for sale, price reduced to $895. Since last post I have found some collets, 3/8”, 7/16”, and 1/2”. And collet drawbar. Missing other collet attachment parts. Located in south central WI.


mjzeigle@frontier.com
 


Andrei
 

New guy Bill,

this is about 8-10 hours driving time from your location. Might be worth the effort. The least you can do it reach out to the seller and discuss the lathe. 

I drove 8 hours each way when I got my first lathe. 

good luck


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Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Light 10” South Bend for sale, price reduced to $895. Since last post I have found some collets, 3/8”, 7/16”, and 1/2”. And collet drawbar. Missing other collet attachment parts. Located in south central WI.
 


Bill in OKC too
 

It wouldn't be as good as a Heavy 10L, but it would certainly beat the heck out of an Atlas! Depends mostly on what you want to do with a lathe. The Atlas 10" & 12" lathes have an MT3 spindle and MT2 tailstock. Through hole in the spindle is about 3/4" or 19mm. From what I'm reading, http://www.lathes.co.uk/southbend/page8.html, the Light 10 lathes had about a 5/8" through hole on their spindle, so in some ways the Atlas would be better, but...

I have never seen a light 10 in person, just photos, and I was interested in being able to do some gunsmithing work, so the Atlas 10"/12" and Heavy 10L lathes are a better choice. Heavy 10L has a 1-3/8" through hole, so better for that purpose, but folks I know online have used a 7x Mini-lathe to do gunsmithing, so you might be able to do more than you thought. I found my Atlas a few years before I found the Heavy 10L. Paid $750 for the Atlas, running,  but with few accessories and little tooling. Was able to use much of the stuff I got for my HF 7x10 with it. Paid $950 for the Heavy 10L, in need of much restoration, but with two single-tumble QCGB's, normal and turret tailstocks, two 5C collet closers, and the taper attachment. Much of the stuff that works for the Atlas will also work for the Heavy 10L, as it has a spindle adapter that takes MT3 tapers. The standard tailstock also has an MT3 taper. 

If I were close by, and hadn't gotten my two larger lathes, I'd be interested in this lathe.  

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. 
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Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
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On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:16:10 PM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


New guy Bill,

this is about 8-10 hours driving time from your location. Might be worth the effort. The least you can do it reach out to the seller and discuss the lathe. 

I drove 8 hours each way when I got my first lathe. 

good luck


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Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 1:05 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Light 10” South Bend for sale, price reduced to $895. Since last post I have found some collets, 3/8”, 7/16”, and 1/2”. And collet drawbar. Missing other collet attachment parts. Located in south central WI.
 


mike allen
 

        looks like that lathe is missing the QCGB & lead screw  ? Could have been a serious crash . Or maybe he took it off for the new owner restoration & got over his head .

        animal

On 1/9/2023 10:05 AM, mjzeigle@... wrote:


mjzeigle@frontier.com
 

My earlier post included more information. Have quick change and lead screw. They are off because there is some gear damage in the quick change. I think only two gears but not certain. 220v 3ph. Has 3jaw, jacobs 1/2” chuck, live and dead centers. Three tool holders, left, center and right hand. Knurling tool and faceplate. Located outside Pottage WI.  Thanks. Mike 

On Jan 9, 2023, at 1:39 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:



        looks like that lathe is missing the QCGB & lead screw  ? Could have been a serious crash . Or maybe he took it off for the new owner restoration & got over his head .

        animal

On 1/9/2023 10:05 AM, mjzeigle@... wrote:
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W.D.Bill
 

That looks just like what I'd want,I'm not ready to travel that far yet,I've been seeing 9",10"&10heavys within2 hrs or so of me,just trying to get some specific knowledge before I get serious about buying.The price on this is better than any I've seen near me but a day or so trip will add to that cost.


Andrei
 

It is more than a one day project. 

The way I did it for mine, was to drive after work and arrive at about 11pm. Stay overnight in a local Motel 6. In the morning go to the location, pick up the goodies, then drive home and get there around 9pm. 

Breaking up the trip that way saved my sanity and possibly kept me alive, as making the trip in one day would have been too risky. First because of the many hours and second because of the weight with a high center of gravity in the bed of my F150. 

Adding speed and tired to the high load can easily spell disaster


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Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Light 10” South Bend for sale, price reduced to $895. Since last post I have found some collets, 3/8”, 7/16”, and 1/2”. And collet drawbar. Missing other collet attachment parts. Located in south central WI.
 
That looks just like what I'd want,I'm not ready to travel that far yet,I've been seeing 9",10"&10heavys within2 hrs or so of me,just trying to get some specific knowledge before I get serious about buying.The price on this is better than any I've seen near me but a day or so trip will add to that cost.


mike allen
 

        I never got your original post , Which happens a lot . A lot of times I end up going to the group page & then reading the whole thread to fill in the parts I missed . Don't know if other folks

        have that problem too . My first time seeing anything on this one was from Andrei's post .  Keeps me on my toes ( well sorta ) .

        animal

On 1/9/2023 1:02 PM, mjzeigle@... wrote:

My earlier post included more information. Have quick change and lead screw. They are off because there is some gear damage in the quick change. I think only two gears but not certain. 220v 3ph. Has 3jaw, jacobs 1/2” chuck, live and dead centers. Three tool holders, left, center and right hand. Knurling tool and faceplate. Located outside Pottage WI.  Thanks. Mike 

On Jan 9, 2023, at 1:39 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:



        looks like that lathe is missing the QCGB & lead screw  ? Could have been a serious crash . Or maybe he took it off for the new owner restoration & got over his head .

        animal

On 1/9/2023 10:05 AM, mjzeigle@... wrote:
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mjzeigle@frontier.com
 

Here is picture of inside of the quick change.   I bought the lathe planning to fix the QC but I just last week bought a larger lathe. 

image0.jpegimage1.jpeg

On Jan 9, 2023, at 4:31 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:



        I never got your original post , Which happens a lot . A lot of times I end up going to the group page & then reading the whole thread to fill in the parts I missed . Don't know if other folks

        have that problem too . My first time seeing anything on this one was from Andrei's post .  Keeps me on my toes ( well sorta ) .

        animal

On 1/9/2023 1:02 PM, mjzeigle@... wrote:
My earlier post included more information. Have quick change and lead screw. They are off because there is some gear damage in the quick change. I think only two gears but not certain. 220v 3ph. Has 3jaw, jacobs 1/2” chuck, live and dead centers. Three tool holders, left, center and right hand. Knurling tool and faceplate. Located outside Pottage WI.  Thanks. Mike 

On Jan 9, 2023, at 1:39 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:



        looks like that lathe is missing the QCGB & lead screw  ? Could have been a serious crash . Or maybe he took it off for the new owner restoration & got over his head .

        animal

On 1/9/2023 10:05 AM, mjzeigle@... wrote:
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Andrei
 

Making gears is not too hard if you have the proper cutter and a way to index. I have seen people using saw blades as an index. Pretty wild.


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Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 5:36:16 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Light 10” South Bend for sale, price reduced to $895. Since last post I have found some collets, 3/8”, 7/16”, and 1/2”. And collet drawbar. Missing other collet attachment parts. Located in south central WI.
 
Here is picture of inside of the quick change.   I bought the lathe planning to fix the QC but I just last week bought a larger lathe. 

image0.jpegimage1.jpeg

On Jan 9, 2023, at 4:31 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:



        I never got your original post , Which happens a lot . A lot of times I end up going to the group page & then reading the whole thread to fill in the parts I missed . Don't know if other folks

        have that problem too . My first time seeing anything on this one was from Andrei's post .  Keeps me on my toes ( well sorta ) .

        animal

On 1/9/2023 1:02 PM, mjzeigle@... wrote:
My earlier post included more information. Have quick change and lead screw. They are off because there is some gear damage in the quick change. I think only two gears but not certain. 220v 3ph. Has 3jaw, jacobs 1/2” chuck, live and dead centers. Three tool holders, left, center and right hand. Knurling tool and faceplate. Located outside Pottage WI.  Thanks. Mike 

On Jan 9, 2023, at 1:39 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:



        looks like that lathe is missing the QCGB & lead screw  ? Could have been a serious crash . Or maybe he took it off for the new owner restoration & got over his head .

        animal

On 1/9/2023 10:05 AM, mjzeigle@... wrote:
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mike allen
 

        These gear boxes are not as complicated as folks make them out to be . Got mine together on second try . First try I mixed the  QC handles . IIRC the gears in the handles face opposite

        directions . If you do go for a SB lathe you want to get one of  the rebuild manual these folks put out  . Get you through the gearbox easy  . I think they may be cheaper on ebay .

        https://www.amazon.com/South-Bend-Lathe-Rebuild-Kit/dp/B01K5253SG

        animal

On 1/9/2023 2:36 PM, mjzeigle@... wrote:

Here is picture of inside of the quick change.   I bought the lathe planning to fix the QC but I just last week bought a larger lathe. 

image0.jpegimage1.jpeg

On Jan 9, 2023, at 4:31 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:



        I never got your original post , Which happens a lot . A lot of times I end up going to the group page & then reading the whole thread to fill in the parts I missed . Don't know if other folks

        have that problem too . My first time seeing anything on this one was from Andrei's post .  Keeps me on my toes ( well sorta ) .

        animal

On 1/9/2023 1:02 PM, mjzeigle@... wrote:
My earlier post included more information. Have quick change and lead screw. They are off because there is some gear damage in the quick change. I think only two gears but not certain. 220v 3ph. Has 3jaw, jacobs 1/2” chuck, live and dead centers. Three tool holders, left, center and right hand. Knurling tool and faceplate. Located outside Pottage WI.  Thanks. Mike 

On Jan 9, 2023, at 1:39 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:



        looks like that lathe is missing the QCGB & lead screw  ? Could have been a serious crash . Or maybe he took it off for the new owner restoration & got over his head .

        animal

On 1/9/2023 10:05 AM, mjzeigle@... wrote:
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Rick
 

I’m with Mike, not that hard. On my SB13 that I rebuilt, I put new bushings in the housing and made new shafts, as the wear was crazy from lack of maintenance.  The bronze bushings were almost completely gone, the shafts had .030 worn off the diameter!


Brandon Corey
 

On Jan 9, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:

It wouldn't be as good as a Heavy 10L, but it would certainly beat the heck out of an Atlas! Depends mostly on what you want to do with a lathe. The Atlas 10" & 12" lathes have an MT3 spindle and MT2 tailstock. Through hole in the spindle is about 3/4" or 19mm. From what I'm reading, http://www.lathes.co.uk/southbend/page8.html, the Light 10 lathes had about a 5/8" through hole on their spindle, so in some ways the Atlas would be better, but...

Like the Atlas 10” and 12”, the 10L also has a MT3 spindle and MT2 tailstock.  That page is talking about the max work size with collets.  It takes 6K collets, which allow up to 5/8” material, but the bore of the spindle will take up to 13/16” of material.

South Bend 9’s incidentally take 3C collets, which allow up to 1/2” material, but the bore of the spindle will take up to 3/4” of material.  I regularly use 3/4” material through my 9” spindle with a chuck.

Brandon


Jim_B
 

The 10k has  bore of 55/64”. About 0.860.  It also takes 6K collets which go to 5/8”, along with 3C. 

I had tooling for 3AT for mine. Probably shop made. 

6K are not common but I just sold a complete set (by 54ths). 


Jim B,

On Jan 10, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Brandon Corey <bcorey@...> wrote:


On Jan 9, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:

It wouldn't be as good as a Heavy 10L, but it would certainly beat the heck out of an Atlas! Depends mostly on what you want to do with a lathe. The Atlas 10" & 12" lathes have an MT3 spindle and MT2 tailstock. Through hole in the spindle is about 3/4" or 19mm. From what I'm reading, http://www.lathes.co.uk/southbend/page8.html, the Light 10 lathes had about a 5/8" through hole on their spindle, so in some ways the Atlas would be better, but...

Like the Atlas 10” and 12”, the 10L also has a MT3 spindle and MT2 tailstock.  That page is talking about the max work size with collets.  It takes 6K collets, which allow up to 5/8” material, but the bore of the spindle will take up to 13/16” of material.

South Bend 9’s incidentally take 3C collets, which allow up to 1/2” material, but the bore of the spindle will take up to 3/4” of material.  I regularly use 3/4” material through my 9” spindle with a chuck.

Brandon


--
Jim B


Jim_B
 

64ths


Jim B,


--
Jim B


Bill in OKC too
 

Thanks! I've not touched a 9" South Bend lathe in nearly 50 years. Any lathe is better than no lathe, but some latest are much better than others. :)

Bill in OKC 

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. 
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better



On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 09:15:33 PM CST, Brandon Corey <bcorey@...> wrote:


On Jan 9, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:

It wouldn't be as good as a Heavy 10L, but it would certainly beat the heck out of an Atlas! Depends mostly on what you want to do with a lathe. The Atlas 10" & 12" lathes have an MT3 spindle and MT2 tailstock. Through hole in the spindle is about 3/4" or 19mm. From what I'm reading, http://www.lathes.co.uk/southbend/page8.html, the Light 10 lathes had about a 5/8" through hole on their spindle, so in some ways the Atlas would be better, but...

Like the Atlas 10” and 12”, the 10L also has a MT3 spindle and MT2 tailstock.  That page is talking about the max work size with collets.  It takes 6K collets, which allow up to 5/8” material, but the bore of the spindle will take up to 13/16” of material.

South Bend 9’s incidentally take 3C collets, which allow up to 1/2” material, but the bore of the spindle will take up to 3/4” of material.  I regularly use 3/4” material through my 9” spindle with a chuck.

Brandon


Irby Jones
 

Out of curiosity, how much stuff (if any) from a Heavy 10 will fit this? Like headstock, tailstock, quick change gearbox, etc. I have those left over from a Heavy 10. I don't need another lathe but a friend may, and the Heavy 10 stuff would be nice, especially if the gearbox would work. The ways and carriage, etc. on the heavy 10 are worn beyond fixing. And I gave Jim B. the taper attachment... :)

Irby


firefite Roenigk
 

I have a complete S B 10H I will sell as hole or part out, It's in good shape but I have too many. Dave
Cleveland Ohio


Jim_B
 

The hea


Jim B,

On Jan 12, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Irby Jones <irbyrat@...> wrote:

Out of curiosity, how much stuff (if any) from a Heavy 10 will fit this? Like headstock, tailstock, quick change gearbox, etc. I have those left over from a Heavy 10. I don't need another lathe but a friend may, and the Heavy 10 stuff would be nice, especially if the gearbox would work. The ways and carriage, etc. on the heavy 10 are worn beyond fixing. And I gave Jim B. the taper attachment... :)

Irby

--
Jim B


Jim_B
 

Hi Irby.
Almost nothing on a heavy 10 fits a light 10


Jim B,

On Jan 12, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Irby Jones <irbyrat@...> wrote:

Out of curiosity, how much stuff (if any) from a Heavy 10 will fit this? Like headstock, tailstock, quick change gearbox, etc.
--
Jim B