Cleaning files fouled by aluminum


Nick Andrews
 

Find this.   Pretty cool. 


eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

Dunking it briefly in a caustic solution should loosen stuff as well (hint - don't try this with your pistons or aeroplane!) and will degrease it as part of the bargain


A narrow (< 20mm) strip of mild steel works just as well for removing steel swarf from files.


Eddie




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Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Cleaning files fouled by aluminum

Find this. Pretty cool.


Rogan Creswick
 

A scrap of wood works just fine, too. I find the endgrain works best, and forms the same sort of teeth he shows with copper.


On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 9:34 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@...> wrote:
Find this.   Pretty cool. 


Nick Andrews
 

Interesting.   I normally use a file card,  but some of the files I've found at estate sales have all kinds of odd stuff on them so different methods are interesting.   I'll have to try some of these out. 


On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 10:48 AM Rogan Creswick <creswick@...> wrote:
A scrap of wood works just fine, too. I find the endgrain works best, and forms the same sort of teeth he shows with copper.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 9:34 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@...> wrote:
Find this.   Pretty cool. 


Stephen Bartlett
 

I have cleaned single cut files, not cross cut, by pushing a narrow angle X Acto blade point first along the individual tooth valleys.

It is tedious but digs out stubborn swarf.

Steve Bartlett


Glen Ruch
 

This guy uses Bamboo.  He even built a special handle.
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Tooling/FileCleaner/filecleaner.html

He also has a Tips page
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/hstpages.html

Regards.


On 6/27/22 12:14, Nick Andrews wrote:
Interesting.   I normally use a file card,  but some of the files I've found at estate sales have all kinds of odd stuff on them so different methods are interesting.   I'll have to try some of these out. 

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 10:48 AM Rogan Creswick <creswick@...> wrote:
A scrap of wood works just fine, too. I find the endgrain works best, and forms the same sort of teeth he shows with copper.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 9:34 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@...> wrote:
Find this.   Pretty cool. 


Ray De Jong
 

Wow! that 'Tips Page' link is to a most excellent list of tips , well worth looking into and bookmarking

On Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 05:27:05 AM PDT, Glen Ruch via groups.io <gw.ruch@...> wrote:


This guy uses Bamboo.  He even built a special handle.
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Tooling/FileCleaner/filecleaner.html

He also has a Tips page
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/hstpages.html

Regards.


On 6/27/22 12:14, Nick Andrews wrote:
Interesting.   I normally use a file card,  but some of the files I've found at estate sales have all kinds of odd stuff on them so different methods are interesting.   I'll have to try some of these out. 

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 10:48 AM Rogan Creswick <creswick@...> wrote:
A scrap of wood works just fine, too. I find the endgrain works best, and forms the same sort of teeth he shows with copper.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 9:34 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@...> wrote:
Find this.   Pretty cool. 


mike allen
 

        Yea , Frank is a genius at other things besides just being one of the best luthiers around .

        animal

On 6/28/2022 7:08 AM, Ray De Jong via groups.io wrote:
Wow! that 'Tips Page' link is to a most excellent list of tips , well worth looking into and bookmarking

On Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 05:27:05 AM PDT, Glen Ruch via groups.io <gw.ruch@...> wrote:


This guy uses Bamboo.  He even built a special handle.
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Tooling/FileCleaner/filecleaner.html

He also has a Tips page
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/hstpages.html

Regards.


On 6/27/22 12:14, Nick Andrews wrote:
Interesting.   I normally use a file card,  but some of the files I've found at estate sales have all kinds of odd stuff on them so different methods are interesting.   I'll have to try some of these out. 

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 10:48 AM Rogan Creswick <creswick@...> wrote:
A scrap of wood works just fine, too. I find the endgrain works best, and forms the same sort of teeth he shows with copper.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 9:34 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@...> wrote:
Find this.   Pretty cool. 


Bill in OKC too
 

Frank Ford is definitely the real deal when it comes to craftsmanship in a bunch of materials and the use, maintenance, and creation of tools and other objects. He's high on my list of tech wizards. :)

Bill in OKC 

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. 
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better



On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:33:09 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


        Yea , Frank is a genius at other things besides just being one of the best luthiers around .

        animal

On 6/28/2022 7:08 AM, Ray De Jong via groups.io wrote:
Wow! that 'Tips Page' link is to a most excellent list of tips , well worth looking into and bookmarking

On Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 05:27:05 AM PDT, Glen Ruch via groups.io <gw.ruch@...> wrote:


This guy uses Bamboo.  He even built a special handle.
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Tooling/FileCleaner/filecleaner.html

He also has a Tips page
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/hstpages.html

Regards.


On 6/27/22 12:14, Nick Andrews wrote:
Interesting.   I normally use a file card,  but some of the files I've found at estate sales have all kinds of odd stuff on them so different methods are interesting.   I'll have to try some of these out. 

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 10:48 AM Rogan Creswick <creswick@...> wrote:
A scrap of wood works just fine, too. I find the endgrain works best, and forms the same sort of teeth he shows with copper.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 9:34 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@...> wrote:
Find this.   Pretty cool. 


mike allen
 

        Ya outta see what he can do to 100 year + Martin guitar

        animal

On 6/28/2022 12:25 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
Frank Ford is definitely the real deal when it comes to craftsmanship in a bunch of materials and the use, maintenance, and creation of tools and other objects. He's high on my list of tech wizards. :)

Bill in OKC 

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. 
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better



On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:33:09 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


        Yea , Frank is a genius at other things besides just being one of the best luthiers around .

        animal

On 6/28/2022 7:08 AM, Ray De Jong via groups.io wrote:
Wow! that 'Tips Page' link is to a most excellent list of tips , well worth looking into and bookmarking

On Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 05:27:05 AM PDT, Glen Ruch via groups.io <gw.ruch@...> wrote:


This guy uses Bamboo.  He even built a special handle.
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Tooling/FileCleaner/filecleaner.html

He also has a Tips page
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/hstpages.html

Regards.


On 6/27/22 12:14, Nick Andrews wrote:
Interesting.   I normally use a file card,  but some of the files I've found at estate sales have all kinds of odd stuff on them so different methods are interesting.   I'll have to try some of these out. 

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 10:48 AM Rogan Creswick <creswick@...> wrote:
A scrap of wood works just fine, too. I find the endgrain works best, and forms the same sort of teeth he shows with copper.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 9:34 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@...> wrote:
Find this.   Pretty cool. 


Bill in OKC too
 

I have. Was interested because I could have inherited my dad's 1954 D28 Dreadnaught. Except I couldn't learn to play it. Not sure who got it, but I have a brother & five sisters who were in the running. The brother got dad's 1903 Springfield, "Betsy", so I think the oldest sister would have gotten the guitar. I'm still unhappy I couldn't learn to play it, but glad that someone who can did.
Martin guitars are a beautiful and complex machine, and I was not worthy of it. But maybe I can make tools for someone with those particular skills. :)

Bill in OKC 

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. 
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better



On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 06:07:07 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


        Ya outta see what he can do to 100 year + Martin guitar

        animal

On 6/28/2022 12:25 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
Frank Ford is definitely the real deal when it comes to craftsmanship in a bunch of materials and the use, maintenance, and creation of tools and other objects. He's high on my list of tech wizards. :)

Bill in OKC 

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. 
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better



On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:33:09 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


        Yea , Frank is a genius at other things besides just being one of the best luthiers around .

        animal

On 6/28/2022 7:08 AM, Ray De Jong via groups.io wrote:
Wow! that 'Tips Page' link is to a most excellent list of tips , well worth looking into and bookmarking

On Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 05:27:05 AM PDT, Glen Ruch via groups.io <gw.ruch@...> wrote:


This guy uses Bamboo.  He even built a special handle.
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Tooling/FileCleaner/filecleaner.html

He also has a Tips page
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/hstpages.html

Regards.


On 6/27/22 12:14, Nick Andrews wrote:
Interesting.   I normally use a file card,  but some of the files I've found at estate sales have all kinds of odd stuff on them so different methods are interesting.   I'll have to try some of these out. 

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 10:48 AM Rogan Creswick <creswick@...> wrote:
A scrap of wood works just fine, too. I find the endgrain works best, and forms the same sort of teeth he shows with copper.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 9:34 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@...> wrote:
Find this.   Pretty cool. 


mike allen
 

        Anybody can learn to play the guitar . Can they be any good at it ? Well that's up to them . I had a DR get inside of my hand & screw up a finger . I'm still sitting on several guitars worth some

        good $ thinking one day my hand will work right again . I have several friends with Martins , some can play them & some just have Martins . Myself I have never liked the way a Martin sounds

        when I played one . I had a pretty nice Gibson L5 that sounded great  that I left at a aunts house at the wrong time & she tossed it . She is no longer my aunt but I still don't have that guitar .

        animal

On 6/28/2022 5:58 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
I have. Was interested because I could have inherited my dad's 1954 D28 Dreadnaught. Except I couldn't learn to play it. Not sure who got it, but I have a brother & five sisters who were in the running. The brother got dad's 1903 Springfield, "Betsy", so I think the oldest sister would have gotten the guitar. I'm still unhappy I couldn't learn to play it, but glad that someone who can did.
Martin guitars are a beautiful and complex machine, and I was not worthy of it. But maybe I can make tools for someone with those particular skills. :)

Bill in OKC 

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. 
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better



On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 06:07:07 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


        Ya outta see what he can do to 100 year + Martin guitar

        animal

On 6/28/2022 12:25 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
Frank Ford is definitely the real deal when it comes to craftsmanship in a bunch of materials and the use, maintenance, and creation of tools and other objects. He's high on my list of tech wizards. :)

Bill in OKC 

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. 
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better



On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:33:09 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


        Yea , Frank is a genius at other things besides just being one of the best luthiers around .

        animal

On 6/28/2022 7:08 AM, Ray De Jong via groups.io wrote:
Wow! that 'Tips Page' link is to a most excellent list of tips , well worth looking into and bookmarking

On Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 05:27:05 AM PDT, Glen Ruch via groups.io <gw.ruch@...> wrote:


This guy uses Bamboo.  He even built a special handle.
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Tooling/FileCleaner/filecleaner.html

He also has a Tips page
http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/hstpages.html

Regards.


On 6/27/22 12:14, Nick Andrews wrote:
Interesting.   I normally use a file card,  but some of the files I've found at estate sales have all kinds of odd stuff on them so different methods are interesting.   I'll have to try some of these out. 

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 10:48 AM Rogan Creswick <creswick@...> wrote:
A scrap of wood works just fine, too. I find the endgrain works best, and forms the same sort of teeth he shows with copper.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 9:34 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@...> wrote:
Find this.   Pretty cool. 


Nick Jonkman
 

Back around 1987 I bought a Martin D28 guitar kit from St. Croix Kits now Music Makers for $299.95. Martin was selling kits of unfinished guitars that were supposed to be seconds with some slight blemish. Mine came with a note that said no blemish. I bought this just after my first wife had past away from cancer in 1986 and this project kinda kept me occupied and got me back to living again. I played it for many years . I also have a Gibson J50, a 1953 vintage.  Now at 80 years my fingers don't work so well any more. One of these days I am going to have to sell them as none of my family is interested in them.
Nick

On 2022-06-29 12:23 a.m., mike allen wrote:

        Anybody can learn to play the guitar . Can they be any good at it ? Well that's up to them . I had a DR get inside of my hand & screw up a finger . I'm still sitting on several guitars worth some

        good $ thinking one day my hand will work right again . I have several friends with Martins , some can play them & some just have Martins . Myself I have never liked the way a Martin sounds

        when I played one . I had a pretty nice Gibson L5 that sounded great  that I left at a aunts house at the wrong time & she tossed it . She is no longer my aunt but I still don't have that guitar .

        animal


mike allen
 

Not sure where you live , but Gryphon Stringed
Instruments ( the place that Frank Ford , the guy mentioned earlier in
this thread started & still runs ) will give you a good honest

            price for it or a appraisal . In my case it's mostly the
work of a DR  that has almost stopped my playing along with 30 years as
a electrician distorting my fingers . But then I'll spin

            some Django & listen to what he could do with two fingers &
say I'll give it another try .

            https://www.gryphonstrings.com/

            animal

On 6/29/2022 6:19 AM, Nick Jonkman wrote:

Back around 1987 I bought a Martin D28 guitar kit from St. Croix Kits
now Music Makers for $299.95. Martin was selling kits of unfinished
guitars that were supposed to be seconds with some slight blemish.
Mine came with a note that said no blemish. I bought this just after
my first wife had past away from cancer in 1986 and this project kinda
kept me occupied and got me back to living again. I played it for many
years . I also have a Gibson J50, a 1953 vintage.  Now at 80 years my
fingers don't work so well any more. One of these days I am going to
have to sell them as none of my family is interested in them.
Nick


On 2022-06-29 12:23 a.m., mike allen wrote:

        Anybody can learn to play the guitar . Can they be any good
at it ? Well that's up to them . I had a DR get inside of my hand &
screw up a finger . I'm still sitting on several guitars worth some

        good $ thinking one day my hand will work right again . I
have several friends with Martins , some can play them & some just
have Martins . Myself I have never liked the way a Martin sounds

        when I played one . I had a pretty nice Gibson L5 that
sounded great  that I left at a aunts house at the wrong time & she
tossed it . She is no longer my aunt but I still don't have that
guitar .

        animal