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Cast Iron Legs
MnM3
@Andrei
Good idea. I did look into having a pair cast. I spoke w a couple local foundries and Clarke at Windy Hill Foundry (Keith Rutgers's friend). A 4x3 mold is a big heavy mold and has to be floor cast. It appears that the days of floor casting are pretty much over. Most of the foundries now are only doing tabletop stuff. Kinda sad. End of an era.
Clarke was game. And I offered to send one of my SB legs to him...but as we talked more - it was soon deemed uneconomical with shipping both ways. Also, one of us would have to make the wood pattern for the casting. We estimated it would be north of $1000 when all said and done. Drat.
@Webb
Good point about 1/2" vs 1/4" steel. I'll see what the shop has to say. Not sure if material or labor will be the most expensive cost.
Mark
Good idea. I did look into having a pair cast. I spoke w a couple local foundries and Clarke at Windy Hill Foundry (Keith Rutgers's friend). A 4x3 mold is a big heavy mold and has to be floor cast. It appears that the days of floor casting are pretty much over. Most of the foundries now are only doing tabletop stuff. Kinda sad. End of an era.
Clarke was game. And I offered to send one of my SB legs to him...but as we talked more - it was soon deemed uneconomical with shipping both ways. Also, one of us would have to make the wood pattern for the casting. We estimated it would be north of $1000 when all said and done. Drat.
@Webb
Good point about 1/2" vs 1/4" steel. I'll see what the shop has to say. Not sure if material or labor will be the most expensive cost.
Mark
wlw19958
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On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 06:18 PM, MnM3 wrote:
Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate.I think 1/2" steel plate is way overkill. Plus the price of the
steel is going to be high. I would think 1/4" would be fine
(except maybe the top surface where the lathe bed bolts).
On a side note, I am glad to hear that Cattail Foundry is
still around.
Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb
Andrei
Animal is right. Precision Matthews sells really good lathes. Abom79 just got himself a 16-inch swing. She looks like an awesome beast. She's pricey, but the 10/22 inch versions are a couple to three grand.
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There really isn't a lot of rocket science in these lathes, probably more common sense . For me it was a lot of " ok now I see how they did that " & with your single tumbler gearbox it should be a walk in the park . Though there are a few small parts that are scared of the light .
animal
On 4/22/2022 6:45 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
The new Heavy 10 really isn't. And there are several vendors selling 10x22 lathes about the same size for half or less than Grizzly wants for their machine with the name on it. Including Grizzly, IIRC. They also do not have the accessories that were standard on the old Heavy 10L. No collet closers, no taper attachment, just for starters.
I looked at them real hard, and over a decade, and couldn't convince myself to buy one. The real thing was available in decent shape on Ebay for about $2500-$3500, and most with all the goodies. I got mine in need of substantial restoration for under a grand. It's a long way from finished, but I'm sure it will be a much better lathe even though it only has the single-tumbler gearbox. And a spare, and two 5-C collet closers, a taper attachment, and both regular and turret tailstocks. It is going to be a lot of work, but I'll know the thing forwards and backwards by the time I'm done.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 05:23:52 PM CDT, Ondrej Krejci via groups.io <okrejci@...> wrote:
The new Heavy Ten is still cheaper than the last dinosaur SB lathe offered by LeBlond Makino at $15K, which no one was buying anyway. Belt drive metal lathes are mostly a thing of the past.
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 04:48:10 PM EDT, Jack Reynolds <jackandladyreynolds@...> wrote:
I went and looked at the SB/Grizzly website to see these and I agree about the crazy price. But when I perused more of the site and got curious about their version of a SB Heavy Ten I was aghast! They boast about what a hodge podge of parts they are made of from around the world and then show a price that blows you away! They are also out of stock on most of them. It is a far cry from when SB used to boast that all orders were filled from stock and the black and white pictures of row upon row of beds, heads, etc ready to be assembled and shipped.
Jack
On 4/22/2022 11:26 AM, William Nelson wrote:
I'm with you Debbie Downer that price is crazy high. But remember you get thr brass Southbend name plates to make it official so I'm pretty sure that raises the price a tad.
--
Bill From Socal
mike allen
There really isn't a lot of rocket science in these lathes, probably more common sense . For me it was a lot of " ok now I see how they did that " & with your single tumbler gearbox it should be a walk in the park . Though there are a few small parts that are scared of the light .
animal
On 4/22/2022 6:45 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
The new Heavy 10 really isn't. And there are several vendors selling 10x22 lathes about the same size for half or less than Grizzly wants for their machine with the name on it. Including Grizzly, IIRC. They also do not have the accessories that were standard on the old Heavy 10L. No collet closers, no taper attachment, just for starters.
I looked at them real hard, and over a decade, and couldn't convince myself to buy one. The real thing was available in decent shape on Ebay for about $2500-$3500, and most with all the goodies. I got mine in need of substantial restoration for under a grand. It's a long way from finished, but I'm sure it will be a much better lathe even though it only has the single-tumbler gearbox. And a spare, and two 5-C collet closers, a taper attachment, and both regular and turret tailstocks. It is going to be a lot of work, but I'll know the thing forwards and backwards by the time I'm done.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 05:23:52 PM CDT, Ondrej Krejci via groups.io <okrejci@...> wrote:
The new Heavy Ten is still cheaper than the last dinosaur SB lathe offered by LeBlond Makino at $15K, which no one was buying anyway. Belt drive metal lathes are mostly a thing of the past.
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 04:48:10 PM EDT, Jack Reynolds <jackandladyreynolds@...> wrote:
I went and looked at the SB/Grizzly website to see these and I agree about the crazy price. But when I perused more of the site and got curious about their version of a SB Heavy Ten I was aghast! They boast about what a hodge podge of parts they are made of from around the world and then show a price that blows you away! They are also out of stock on most of them. It is a far cry from when SB used to boast that all orders were filled from stock and the black and white pictures of row upon row of beds, heads, etc ready to be assembled and shipped.
Jack
On 4/22/2022 11:26 AM, William Nelson wrote:
I'm with you Debbie Downer that price is crazy high. But remember you get thr brass Southbend name plates to make it official so I'm pretty sure that raises the price a tad.
--
Bill From Socal
Ondrej Krejci <okrejci@...>
Amish: just a front to cirvumvent laws, regulations, and taxes.
On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 08:53:41 AM EDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2022/01/26/atf-raids-amish-farmer-seizes-guns-n54826
Article names names, and I don't know who is who, but the guns were in an upstairs room of the foundry building according to the article. I do hope you're right.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 07:49:47 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
No. It was the owner's brother. He was selling long guns to his amish fellows. The foundry is just fine.
From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...>
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I'm not sure they're still in business. The owner ran afoul of the AFT for selling firearms without an FFL. Though I hope I'm wrong.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 07:09:18 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
You should consider calling Cattail Foundry in Gordonville PA. They will pour anything cast-iron for you, except canons. They are Amish, so no internet, just good old fashion letters and sometimes they even answer the phone, but they do great work.
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Hi guys,
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2022/01/26/atf-raids-amish-farmer-seizes-guns-n54826
Article names names, and I don't know who is who, but the guns were in an upstairs room of the foundry building according to the article. I do hope you're right.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 07:49:47 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
No. It was the owner's brother. He was selling long guns to his amish fellows. The foundry is just fine.
From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...>
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I'm not sure they're still in business. The owner ran afoul of the AFT for selling firearms without an FFL. Though I hope I'm wrong.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 07:09:18 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
You should consider calling Cattail Foundry in Gordonville PA. They will pour anything cast-iron for you, except canons. They are Amish, so no internet, just good old fashion letters and sometimes they even answer the phone, but they do great work.
From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of MnM3 <mhelseth@...>
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Sent: Friday, April 22, 2022 9:18:09 PM
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Hi guys,
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
Andrei
No. It was the owner's brother. He was selling long guns to his amish fellows. The foundry is just fine.
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I'm not sure they're still in business. The owner ran afoul of the AFT for selling firearms without an FFL. Though I hope I'm wrong.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 07:09:18 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
You should consider calling Cattail Foundry in Gordonville PA. They will pour anything cast-iron for you, except canons. They are Amish, so no internet, just good old fashion letters and sometimes they even answer the phone, but they do great work.
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Hi guys,
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
I'm not sure they're still in business. The owner ran afoul of the AFT for selling firearms without an FFL. Though I hope I'm wrong.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 07:09:18 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
You should consider calling Cattail Foundry in Gordonville PA. They will pour anything cast-iron for you, except canons. They are Amish, so no internet, just good old fashion letters and sometimes they even answer the phone, but they do great work.
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To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
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Hi guys,
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
Andrei
You should consider calling Cattail Foundry in Gordonville PA. They will pour anything cast-iron for you, except canons. They are Amish, so no internet, just good old fashion letters and sometimes they even answer the phone, but they do great work.
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Hi guys,
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
The new Heavy 10 really isn't. And there are several vendors selling 10x22 lathes about the same size for half or less than Grizzly wants for their machine with the name on it. Including Grizzly, IIRC. They also do not have the accessories that were standard on the old Heavy 10L. No collet closers, no taper attachment, just for starters.
I looked at them real hard, and over a decade, and couldn't convince myself to buy one. The real thing was available in decent shape on Ebay for about $2500-$3500, and most with all the goodies. I got mine in need of substantial restoration for under a grand. It's a long way from finished, but I'm sure it will be a much better lathe even though it only has the single-tumbler gearbox. And a spare, and two 5-C collet closers, a taper attachment, and both regular and turret tailstocks. It is going to be a lot of work, but I'll know the thing forwards and backwards by the time I'm done.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
I looked at them real hard, and over a decade, and couldn't convince myself to buy one. The real thing was available in decent shape on Ebay for about $2500-$3500, and most with all the goodies. I got mine in need of substantial restoration for under a grand. It's a long way from finished, but I'm sure it will be a much better lathe even though it only has the single-tumbler gearbox. And a spare, and two 5-C collet closers, a taper attachment, and both regular and turret tailstocks. It is going to be a lot of work, but I'll know the thing forwards and backwards by the time I'm done.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
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On Friday, April 22, 2022, 05:23:52 PM CDT, Ondrej Krejci via groups.io <okrejci@...> wrote:
The new Heavy Ten is still cheaper than the last dinosaur SB lathe offered by LeBlond Makino at $15K, which no one was buying anyway. Belt drive metal lathes are mostly a thing of the past.
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 04:48:10 PM EDT, Jack Reynolds <jackandladyreynolds@...> wrote:
I went and looked at the SB/Grizzly website to see these and I agree about the crazy price. But when I perused more of the site and got curious about their version of a SB Heavy Ten I was aghast! They boast about what a hodge podge of parts they are made of from around the world and then show a price that blows you away! They are also out of stock on most of them. It is a far cry from when SB used to boast that all orders were filled from stock and the black and white pictures of row upon row of beds, heads, etc ready to be assembled and shipped.
Jack
On 4/22/2022 11:26 AM, William Nelson wrote:
I'm with you Debbie Downer that price is crazy high. But remember you get thr brass Southbend name plates to make it official so I'm pretty sure that raises the price a tad.
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Bill From Socal
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Bill From Socal
Jack Reynolds
Ondrej,
You are probably quite right on both counts. Unfortunately not only are belt drive lathes mostly a thing of the past but manually operated lathes are not far behind as are people who know how to use them properly. I have a 1959 SB Heavy 10 and a 10 inch Logan, both of which combined could not even begin to match the cost of that new Heavy 10 which does not even come with a base. Nevertheless, I would not trade either of them for that new "Heavy 10".
Jack
On 4/22/2022 6:22 PM, Ondrej Krejci via
groups.io wrote:
The new Heavy Ten is still cheaper than the last dinosaur SB lathe offered by LeBlond Makino at $15K, which no one was buying anyway. Belt drive metal lathes are mostly a thing of the past.
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 04:48:10 PM EDT, Jack Reynolds <jackandladyreynolds@...> wrote:
I went and looked at the SB/Grizzly website to see these and I agree about the crazy price. But when I perused more of the site and got curious about their version of a SB Heavy Ten I was aghast! They boast about what a hodge podge of parts they are made of from around the world and then show a price that blows you away! They are also out of stock on most of them. It is a far cry from when SB used to boast that all orders were filled from stock and the black and white pictures of row upon row of beds, heads, etc ready to be assembled and shipped.
Jack
MnM3
Hi guys,
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
That'd be me looking for a set of cast iron legs. I've been looking for a long time.
I've seen the Grizzley legs, but as others mentioned; expensive!
The legs for the older SBs have a very unique and narrow top mounting plate of 6"x6". None of the third-party examples I've seen have that kind of mounting plate. Luckily, I have another 11" lathe to measure, and was able to create a set of drawings for a local shop to fabricate a set of legs out of 1/2" steel plate. I sent them the drawings. Still waiting on a price. I'm sure they won't be cheap...but I want to try and match the SB legs if I can.
If the price is out of sight; plan B is to look at making a replica of the SB wood bench. The SB bench appears doable and it won't need to be very big as my lathe is a 11x3 with the integral splash pan. Fingers crossed on the fabrication price.
Ondrej Krejci <okrejci@...>
The new Heavy Ten is still cheaper than the last dinosaur SB lathe offered by LeBlond Makino at $15K, which no one was buying anyway. Belt drive metal lathes are mostly a thing of the past.
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 04:48:10 PM EDT, Jack Reynolds <jackandladyreynolds@...> wrote:
I went and looked at the SB/Grizzly website to see these and I agree about the crazy price. But when I perused more of the site and got curious about their version of a SB Heavy Ten I was aghast! They boast about what a hodge podge of parts they are made of from around the world and then show a price that blows you away! They are also out of stock on most of them. It is a far cry from when SB used to boast that all orders were filled from stock and the black and white pictures of row upon row of beds, heads, etc ready to be assembled and shipped.
Jack
On 4/22/2022 11:26 AM, William Nelson
wrote:
I'm with you Debbie Downer that price is crazy high. But remember
you get thr brass Southbend name plates to make it official so I'm
pretty sure that raises the price a tad.
--
Bill From Socal
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Bill From Socal
Jack Reynolds
I went and looked at the SB/Grizzly website to see these and I agree about the crazy price. But when I perused more of the site and got curious about their version of a SB Heavy Ten I was aghast! They boast about what a hodge podge of parts they are made of from around the world and then show a price that blows you away! They are also out of stock on most of them. It is a far cry from when SB used to boast that all orders were filled from stock and the black and white pictures of row upon row of beds, heads, etc ready to be assembled and shipped.
Jack
On 4/22/2022 11:26 AM, William Nelson
wrote:
I'm with you Debbie Downer that price is crazy high. But remember you get thr brass Southbend name plates to make it official so I'm pretty sure that raises the price a tad.
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Bill From Socal
That does not include the wooden top or shelf. Those are an additional $273 each. Plus shipping. Lots of shipping. $179 for the set of legs alone.
Bill in OKC <----- can't help being a downer sometimes. Sorry about that!
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Thursday, April 21, 2022, 02:15:57 PM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
That looks like a pretty good deal, with both tops. I bet it weight 120 pouns like nothing. I want to see my mailman hauling that to the door.
From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Ondrej Krejci via groups.io <okrejci@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 3:12 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Cast Iron Legs
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 3:12 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Cast Iron Legs
How about Cast-Iron Workbench Legs at Grizzly.com
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On Thursday, April 21, 2022, 12:53:47 PM EDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
Remember that any advertising is generic. Once you establish contact with the seller, they will send you a list of 40-50 styles they manufacture and the respective prices. Then you pick what you want. Kinda like Amazon advertising sunglasses in an ad and when
you go to the shopping catalog site they have 3,800 designs to pick from.
From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of William Nelson <wnnelson@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 12:16 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Cast Iron Legs
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 12:16 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Cast Iron Legs
Ok is this a crap shoot as to what style legs you get? I see a different leg style in the video vs. the still pictures. Probably get something completely different when you receive it. Is 28.5" tall enough seems short to me.
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Bill From Socal
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Bill From Socal