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Re: 9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks

carbure2003
 

Did you check if the hole is empty? There could be something that should not be there in the hole?
 
usually, holes are drilled to same depth. There are two wick lenght depending of headstock models, but I have never seen a headstock with two different hole depth
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "jonwoellhaf" <jonwoellhaf@...>
To: <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] 9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 16:24:08 -0700

Hi, all.
 
I started assembling my 1948 9A’s headstock the other day, and immediately encountered a problem.
 
The left-hand wick pushed easily down into its hole and I had no trouble inserting a wire to hold it down.
 
The right-hand wick, however, could only be made flush with the bearing by using a lot of force, and could not be lowered enough to be captured by a wire as the left-hand one was.
 
I looked at the wicks that were in place when I removed the spindle. The left-hand one was identical to the new one, but on the right-hand one the felt had apparently been trimmed down to the top of the spring. Or, perhaps, it had worn down that far?
 
I am amazed the spindle is still pristine!
 
What’s your experience? Should I shorten the spring so the right-hand felt has about the same pressure on the spindle as the left-hand one does?
 
Thanks,
 
Jan (Yan)


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9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks

jonwoellhaf
 

Hi, all.
 
I started assembling my 1948 9A’s headstock the other day, and immediately encountered a problem.
 
The left-hand wick pushed easily down into its hole and I had no trouble inserting a wire to hold it down.
 
The right-hand wick, however, could only be made flush with the bearing by using a lot of force, and could not be lowered enough to be captured by a wire as the left-hand one was.
 
I looked at the wicks that were in place when I removed the spindle. The left-hand one was identical to the new one, but on the right-hand one the felt had apparently been trimmed down to the top of the spring. Or, perhaps, it had worn down that far?
 
I am amazed the spindle is still pristine!
 
What’s your experience? Should I shorten the spring so the right-hand felt has about the same pressure on the spindle as the left-hand one does?
 
Thanks,
 
Jan (Yan)


Homemade 5C Collet draw tube for SB 13"

comstock_friend
 

Like Webb, I also had to come up with a way to close 5C collets on my 13". I have a Royal lever closer but find the manual wheel type draw tube much easier on onesie twosies. For a handwheel I used a scooter wheel; it is almost identical to the wheel on my SB 9" draw tube! I had a beat up old tube, massaged the threads to work, cut to length and made an aluminum hub. I cut the scooter hub out with a hole saw and bored to size. The bearing is an extra SB 9" thrust bearing!


Re: Pictures of L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom

david pennington
 

I had no trouble seeing the pics, John.

It would be a fantasy to think I could add that lathe to my shop, but it sure does look nice.

Dave

David W. Pennington
Denver, Colorado
815-382-1994


On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 10:07:44 AM MST, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:


 

Here are some pictures for the whole group.  If anyone is interested please contact me off-group and I will respond directly to you.

 

Thanks

John


Re: Pictures of L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom

DODGEM37@...
 

John;

Thanks for the pictures. I am interested and would like to take a look. Where are you located and when is good for you? Also do you have a way to load onto my pickup if I decide to buy it?

Denis

In a message dated 05-Dec-19 12:07:45 Eastern Standard Time, n2nu@... writes:

 

Here are some pictures for the whole group.  If anyone is interested please contact me off-group and I will respond directly to you.

 

Thanks

John


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

Paul Sadowski
 

John,

 

I tried to email you direct but got a failure notice.

 

If you have some photos please email.

I presently have a 10K but may be interested in upgrading.

 

I am located in NJ.

 

Thanks,

 

Paul Sadowski

psarms@...


Re: Making (Modifying) A Collet Closer (Draw Bar) for My L00 Heavy Ten

Ray De Jong
 

Very nice account and the photos to show the work. I enjoyed this as we don't often see the work of the group; also you 'repurposed an otherwise hard to salvage piece. Good work
Thanks
Ray

On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 8:55:47 AM PST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:


Hi There,

Now that my conversion over to L00 is finished, I needed a collet
closer that fit.  I had in my collection of stuff a collet closer for a
SBL 13" and I decided to shorten it.  Before anyone gets upset,
I will tell you that the threads in the end were stripped out and
hence it wasn't usable.

I mounted the spindle adapter I have and measured from the
back of the spindle to the back of the adapter and came up with
13-5/16" and I decided to reduce this to 13-1/4" to give a little
clearance.  I mounted the SBL 13 closer in the lathe and marked
off the place to cut.





I cut off 5-1/2" to get down to 13-1/4".  The threading went well except when I moved
the saddle and cross slide out of the way to test a collet in the threads.  I inadvertently 
bumped into the right hand leadscrew support with the threading dial and it jumped
a tooth.  This caused all sorts of consternation and the air was blue with exclamations!
I was able to pick-up the thread again and continued with the threading. 

I got it so that 90% of my collets (mostly Hardinge) collet would screw on but I had
recently gotten some hex collets that would not go on.  I figured the hand ground
bit I was using wasn't a perfect 60° and/or not set up at the correct angle. 

So, I decided to look for a threading boring bar that used inserts.  I found one on
Amazon with 10 inserts but it was only a 10mm bar and I worried about rigidity.
Still, most of the thread was already cut and all I needed was to make sure the
thread form was correct.  It arrived yesterday and after re-mounting the closer
( had removed it to do other work) and spending some "quality time" picking up
the thread again, I was able to chase the thread.

All I can say is I like that little threading boring bar!  The inserts are sharp and
chips came out cleanly cut.  It did take about 8 passes without changing the
setting to get it to make a pass without getting some swarf.  After which, all but
one collet would thread on easily.  The last one would thread on but took some
effort to get it on.  So I took a couple more passes and then there was no more
undue resistance to threading on.  Here is a pic of the finished threading.



Here is my compound set-up (if you look closely, you can see where
I welded up the front of the compound with nickel welding rod to
rebuild the area that got chewed-up by previous owners).



The last thing I need to do is make a new handwheel for it.  For the short term,
I borrowed the hand wheel from an SBL 10R collet closer.



Thanks for looking!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

John Fischer
 

Well I tried but I am having all sorts of problems posting pictures to the list…

 

If there is something I need to do to make them go (size or something?) let me know and I will try again…

 

Regards

John

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of douglas gubner via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2019 10:05 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

 

can you post photos

 

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 02:53:56 PM EST, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:

 

 

All

 

Speaking of L00

 

I have a 1972 Heavy 10 3 ½ foot bed toolroom lathe that I would like to find a new loving owner for.  I got it from my employer when they went out of business and it has been sitting – I feel guilty when I walk by that it is not in use.

 

Catalog is CLK8187, it has flame hardened ways, L00 spindle, taper attachment(standard on toolroom) and 3 phase motor.  I have not fired it up in a little while, but it was all working when I got it from my company – I used it for light machine work and it originally came out of a college shop.  Condition is very nice with original finish.  I have some goodies to go with it, Aloris AXA toolpost and some holders, I can probably come up with a chuck or two.  I have some 5C collets and a closer for a threaded spindle machine, so it needs a longer piece machined to work with the L00.  I meant to do this right at the time the company shut down abruptly.  Probably a few other things as well, I need to take some pictures and take stock of everything.

 

I am located in central NJ.  If you contact me off list, I would be happy to send pictures and talk to you more about it.  I have not listed this machine anywhere, I am coming to this group first

 

Regards

John

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Heavy Ten conversion to L00

 

Looks much better than mine!

 

I probably have room for it and my other two lathes, the shaper, and a bunch of other stuff, but I also have too much stuff for the space I'm trying to fit it into. :)

 

Ten pounds of crap in a 5# bag, so to speak. I do hope it looks as good as yours, and functions well when I'm done. I've wanted a South Bend lathe since my senior year of high school. Had it a bit over a year, but hit some snags in working on it. Trying to get those mostly ironed out this next week or so.

 

It spent some time in a leaky barn before my friend decided he wasn't going to have time to fix it and everything else he's working on. The current SB equivalent lists for $10k. I got it for less than a tenth of that, and some sweat equity. The tailstock, saddle, and two 5c collet holders have been derusted. Need some citristrip, painting, and reassembly, and a good temp & humidity-controlled storage while I deal with the bed, two gearboxes, headstock, taper attachment, and the separate turret tailstock. 

 

Yes. I have been known to bite off more than I can chew..😁

 

Bill in OKC

 

 

 

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

 

 

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, 03:52:32 PM CST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi There,

As promised, here are a couple of pics of my disreputable lathe.




Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Pictures of L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom

John Fischer
 

 

Here are some pictures for the whole group.  If anyone is interested please contact me off-group and I will respond directly to you.

 

Thanks

John


Re: Making (Modifying) A Collet Closer (Draw Bar) for My L00 Heavy Ten

Jim_B
 

Good Job. 
Thanks for Posting. 
I wish more members would post tasks. 

Sent from my MacBook
Jim B.






--
Jim B


Making (Modifying) A Collet Closer (Draw Bar) for My L00 Heavy Ten

wlw19958
 

Hi There,

Now that my conversion over to L00 is finished, I needed a collet
closer that fit.  I had in my collection of stuff a collet closer for a
SBL 13" and I decided to shorten it.  Before anyone gets upset,
I will tell you that the threads in the end were stripped out and
hence it wasn't usable.

I mounted the spindle adapter I have and measured from the
back of the spindle to the back of the adapter and came up with
13-5/16" and I decided to reduce this to 13-1/4" to give a little
clearance.  I mounted the SBL 13 closer in the lathe and marked
off the place to cut.





I cut off 5-1/2" to get down to 13-1/4".  The threading went well except when I moved
the saddle and cross slide out of the way to test a collet in the threads.  I inadvertently 
bumped into the right hand leadscrew support with the threading dial and it jumped
a tooth.  This caused all sorts of consternation and the air was blue with exclamations!
I was able to pick-up the thread again and continued with the threading. 

I got it so that 90% of my collets (mostly Hardinge) collet would screw on but I had
recently gotten some hex collets that would not go on.  I figured the hand ground
bit I was using wasn't a perfect 60° and/or not set up at the correct angle. 

So, I decided to look for a threading boring bar that used inserts.  I found one on
Amazon with 10 inserts but it was only a 10mm bar and I worried about rigidity.
Still, most of the thread was already cut and all I needed was to make sure the
thread form was correct.  It arrived yesterday and after re-mounting the closer
( had removed it to do other work) and spending some "quality time" picking up
the thread again, I was able to chase the thread.

All I can say is I like that little threading boring bar!  The inserts are sharp and
chips came out cleanly cut.  It did take about 8 passes without changing the
setting to get it to make a pass without getting some swarf.  After which, all but
one collet would thread on easily.  The last one would thread on but took some
effort to get it on.  So I took a couple more passes and then there was no more
undue resistance to threading on.  Here is a pic of the finished threading.



Here is my compound set-up (if you look closely, you can see where
I welded up the front of the compound with nickel welding rod to
rebuild the area that got chewed-up by previous owners).



The last thing I need to do is make a new handwheel for it.  For the short term,
I borrowed the hand wheel from an SBL 10R collet closer.



Thanks for looking!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

douglas gubner
 

can you post photos

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 02:53:56 PM EST, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:


All

 

Speaking of L00

 

I have a 1972 Heavy 10 3 ½ foot bed toolroom lathe that I would like to find a new loving owner for.  I got it from my employer when they went out of business and it has been sitting – I feel guilty when I walk by that it is not in use.

 

Catalog is CLK8187, it has flame hardened ways, L00 spindle, taper attachment(standard on toolroom) and 3 phase motor.  I have not fired it up in a little while, but it was all working when I got it from my company – I used it for light machine work and it originally came out of a college shop.  Condition is very nice with original finish.  I have some goodies to go with it, Aloris AXA toolpost and some holders, I can probably come up with a chuck or two.  I have some 5C collets and a closer for a threaded spindle machine, so it needs a longer piece machined to work with the L00.  I meant to do this right at the time the company shut down abruptly.  Probably a few other things as well, I need to take some pictures and take stock of everything.

 

I am located in central NJ.  If you contact me off list, I would be happy to send pictures and talk to you more about it.  I have not listed this machine anywhere, I am coming to this group first

 

Regards

John

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Heavy Ten conversion to L00

 

Looks much better than mine!

 

I probably have room for it and my other two lathes, the shaper, and a bunch of other stuff, but I also have too much stuff for the space I'm trying to fit it into. :)

 

Ten pounds of crap in a 5# bag, so to speak. I do hope it looks as good as yours, and functions well when I'm done. I've wanted a South Bend lathe since my senior year of high school. Had it a bit over a year, but hit some snags in working on it. Trying to get those mostly ironed out this next week or so.

 

It spent some time in a leaky barn before my friend decided he wasn't going to have time to fix it and everything else he's working on. The current SB equivalent lists for $10k. I got it for less than a tenth of that, and some sweat equity. The tailstock, saddle, and two 5c collet holders have been derusted. Need some citristrip, painting, and reassembly, and a good temp & humidity-controlled storage while I deal with the bed, two gearboxes, headstock, taper attachment, and the separate turret tailstock. 

 

Yes. I have been known to bite off more than I can chew..😁

 

Bill in OKC

 

 

 

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

 

 

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, 03:52:32 PM CST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi There,

As promised, here are a couple of pics of my disreputable lathe.




Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

Bill in OKC too
 

I might have a hard time explaining to SWMBO why I need another SB Heavy 10L. Especially since I haven't finished restoring the one she bought me for Christmas last year. ;)

Admittedly it doesn't have the L00 chuck, but I do NOT want her thinking I'm not grateful!

Bill in OKC

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 3:02:05 PM CST, david pennington via Groups.Io <davidwpennington@...> wrote:


Love Heinlein!

When it comes to this lathe, I'm reminded of Goethe: "A man's reach should exceed his grasp."

Dave

David W. Pennington
Denver, Colorado
815-382-1994


On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 12:59:46 PM MST, Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:


Wish I could be in the market, but I couldn't afford a $150 Atlas/Craftsman 12" lathe in Colorado on one of my other groups today.

Wish you good luck finding it a good home!

Bill in OKC

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 1:53:57 PM CST, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:


All

 

Speaking of L00

 

I have a 1972 Heavy 10 3 ½ foot bed toolroom lathe that I would like to find a new loving owner for.  I got it from my employer when they went out of business and it has been sitting – I feel guilty when I walk by that it is not in use.

 

Catalog is CLK8187, it has flame hardened ways, L00 spindle, taper attachment(standard on toolroom) and 3 phase motor.  I have not fired it up in a little while, but it was all working when I got it from my company – I used it for light machine work and it originally came out of a college shop.  Condition is very nice with original finish.  I have some goodies to go with it, Aloris AXA toolpost and some holders, I can probably come up with a chuck or two.  I have some 5C collets and a closer for a threaded spindle machine, so it needs a longer piece machined to work with the L00.  I meant to do this right at the time the company shut down abruptly.  Probably a few other things as well, I need to take some pictures and take stock of everything.

 

I am located in central NJ.  If you contact me off list, I would be happy to send pictures and talk to you more about it.  I have not listed this machine anywhere, I am coming to this group first

 

Regards

John

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Heavy Ten conversion to L00

 

Looks much better than mine!

 

I probably have room for it and my other two lathes, the shaper, and a bunch of other stuff, but I also have too much stuff for the space I'm trying to fit it into. :)

 

Ten pounds of crap in a 5# bag, so to speak. I do hope it looks as good as yours, and functions well when I'm done. I've wanted a South Bend lathe since my senior year of high school. Had it a bit over a year, but hit some snags in working on it. Trying to get those mostly ironed out this next week or so.

 

It spent some time in a leaky barn before my friend decided he wasn't going to have time to fix it and everything else he's working on. The current SB equivalent lists for $10k. I got it for less than a tenth of that, and some sweat equity. The tailstock, saddle, and two 5c collet holders have been derusted. Need some citristrip, painting, and reassembly, and a good temp & humidity-controlled storage while I deal with the bed, two gearboxes, headstock, taper attachment, and the separate turret tailstock. 

 

Yes. I have been known to bite off more than I can chew..😁

 

Bill in OKC

 

 

 

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

 

 

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, 03:52:32 PM CST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi There,

As promised, here are a couple of pics of my disreputable lathe.




Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

david pennington
 

Love Heinlein!

When it comes to this lathe, I'm reminded of Goethe: "A man's reach should exceed his grasp."

Dave

David W. Pennington
Denver, Colorado
815-382-1994


On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 12:59:46 PM MST, Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:


Wish I could be in the market, but I couldn't afford a $150 Atlas/Craftsman 12" lathe in Colorado on one of my other groups today.

Wish you good luck finding it a good home!

Bill in OKC

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 1:53:57 PM CST, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:


All

 

Speaking of L00

 

I have a 1972 Heavy 10 3 ½ foot bed toolroom lathe that I would like to find a new loving owner for.  I got it from my employer when they went out of business and it has been sitting – I feel guilty when I walk by that it is not in use.

 

Catalog is CLK8187, it has flame hardened ways, L00 spindle, taper attachment(standard on toolroom) and 3 phase motor.  I have not fired it up in a little while, but it was all working when I got it from my company – I used it for light machine work and it originally came out of a college shop.  Condition is very nice with original finish.  I have some goodies to go with it, Aloris AXA toolpost and some holders, I can probably come up with a chuck or two.  I have some 5C collets and a closer for a threaded spindle machine, so it needs a longer piece machined to work with the L00.  I meant to do this right at the time the company shut down abruptly.  Probably a few other things as well, I need to take some pictures and take stock of everything.

 

I am located in central NJ.  If you contact me off list, I would be happy to send pictures and talk to you more about it.  I have not listed this machine anywhere, I am coming to this group first

 

Regards

John

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Heavy Ten conversion to L00

 

Looks much better than mine!

 

I probably have room for it and my other two lathes, the shaper, and a bunch of other stuff, but I also have too much stuff for the space I'm trying to fit it into. :)

 

Ten pounds of crap in a 5# bag, so to speak. I do hope it looks as good as yours, and functions well when I'm done. I've wanted a South Bend lathe since my senior year of high school. Had it a bit over a year, but hit some snags in working on it. Trying to get those mostly ironed out this next week or so.

 

It spent some time in a leaky barn before my friend decided he wasn't going to have time to fix it and everything else he's working on. The current SB equivalent lists for $10k. I got it for less than a tenth of that, and some sweat equity. The tailstock, saddle, and two 5c collet holders have been derusted. Need some citristrip, painting, and reassembly, and a good temp & humidity-controlled storage while I deal with the bed, two gearboxes, headstock, taper attachment, and the separate turret tailstock. 

 

Yes. I have been known to bite off more than I can chew..😁

 

Bill in OKC

 

 

 

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

 

 

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, 03:52:32 PM CST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi There,

As promised, here are a couple of pics of my disreputable lathe.




Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

Bob Kellermann
 

On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:53 PM, John Fischer <n2nu@arrl.net> wrote:

a ship


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

Bill in OKC too
 

Wish I could be in the market, but I couldn't afford a $150 Atlas/Craftsman 12" lathe in Colorado on one of my other groups today.

Wish you good luck finding it a good home!

Bill in OKC

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 1:53:57 PM CST, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:


All

 

Speaking of L00

 

I have a 1972 Heavy 10 3 ½ foot bed toolroom lathe that I would like to find a new loving owner for.  I got it from my employer when they went out of business and it has been sitting – I feel guilty when I walk by that it is not in use.

 

Catalog is CLK8187, it has flame hardened ways, L00 spindle, taper attachment(standard on toolroom) and 3 phase motor.  I have not fired it up in a little while, but it was all working when I got it from my company – I used it for light machine work and it originally came out of a college shop.  Condition is very nice with original finish.  I have some goodies to go with it, Aloris AXA toolpost and some holders, I can probably come up with a chuck or two.  I have some 5C collets and a closer for a threaded spindle machine, so it needs a longer piece machined to work with the L00.  I meant to do this right at the time the company shut down abruptly.  Probably a few other things as well, I need to take some pictures and take stock of everything.

 

I am located in central NJ.  If you contact me off list, I would be happy to send pictures and talk to you more about it.  I have not listed this machine anywhere, I am coming to this group first

 

Regards

John

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Heavy Ten conversion to L00

 

Looks much better than mine!

 

I probably have room for it and my other two lathes, the shaper, and a bunch of other stuff, but I also have too much stuff for the space I'm trying to fit it into. :)

 

Ten pounds of crap in a 5# bag, so to speak. I do hope it looks as good as yours, and functions well when I'm done. I've wanted a South Bend lathe since my senior year of high school. Had it a bit over a year, but hit some snags in working on it. Trying to get those mostly ironed out this next week or so.

 

It spent some time in a leaky barn before my friend decided he wasn't going to have time to fix it and everything else he's working on. The current SB equivalent lists for $10k. I got it for less than a tenth of that, and some sweat equity. The tailstock, saddle, and two 5c collet holders have been derusted. Need some citristrip, painting, and reassembly, and a good temp & humidity-controlled storage while I deal with the bed, two gearboxes, headstock, taper attachment, and the separate turret tailstock. 

 

Yes. I have been known to bite off more than I can chew..😁

 

Bill in OKC

 

 

 

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

 

 

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, 03:52:32 PM CST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi There,

As promised, here are a couple of pics of my disreputable lathe.




Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

John Fischer
 

All

 

Speaking of L00

 

I have a 1972 Heavy 10 3 ½ foot bed toolroom lathe that I would like to find a new loving owner for.  I got it from my employer when they went out of business and it has been sitting – I feel guilty when I walk by that it is not in use.

 

Catalog is CLK8187, it has flame hardened ways, L00 spindle, taper attachment(standard on toolroom) and 3 phase motor.  I have not fired it up in a little while, but it was all working when I got it from my company – I used it for light machine work and it originally came out of a college shop.  Condition is very nice with original finish.  I have some goodies to go with it, Aloris AXA toolpost and some holders, I can probably come up with a chuck or two.  I have some 5C collets and a closer for a threaded spindle machine, so it needs a longer piece machined to work with the L00.  I meant to do this right at the time the company shut down abruptly.  Probably a few other things as well, I need to take some pictures and take stock of everything.

 

I am located in central NJ.  If you contact me off list, I would be happy to send pictures and talk to you more about it.  I have not listed this machine anywhere, I am coming to this group first

 

Regards

John

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Heavy Ten conversion to L00

 

Looks much better than mine!

 

I probably have room for it and my other two lathes, the shaper, and a bunch of other stuff, but I also have too much stuff for the space I'm trying to fit it into. :)

 

Ten pounds of crap in a 5# bag, so to speak. I do hope it looks as good as yours, and functions well when I'm done. I've wanted a South Bend lathe since my senior year of high school. Had it a bit over a year, but hit some snags in working on it. Trying to get those mostly ironed out this next week or so.

 

It spent some time in a leaky barn before my friend decided he wasn't going to have time to fix it and everything else he's working on. The current SB equivalent lists for $10k. I got it for less than a tenth of that, and some sweat equity. The tailstock, saddle, and two 5c collet holders have been derusted. Need some citristrip, painting, and reassembly, and a good temp & humidity-controlled storage while I deal with the bed, two gearboxes, headstock, taper attachment, and the separate turret tailstock. 

 

Yes. I have been known to bite off more than I can chew..😁

 

Bill in OKC

 

 

 

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

 

 

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, 03:52:32 PM CST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi There,

As promised, here are a couple of pics of my disreputable lathe.




Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Grizzly SB Heavy Ten

John Dammeyer
 

Out of curiosity, how does the Grizzly heavy 10 compare with let's say the single lever gear box version from 1942.  It now has the CAM Lock and still has power cross feed.

SB1007 - Heavy 10, 10" x 30" Gearhead Lathe

https://www.grizzly.com/products/South-Bend-Heavy-10-10-x-30-Gearhead-Lathe/SB1007

 


Re: Heavy Ten conversion to L00

eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

Couldn't agree more!  The chucks on our 14.5" are just about on my personal limit for lifting & screwing into place, and I've had more than enough cases of them getting stuck despite doing everything properly.  Give me a Camlock any day.

Eddie

On Monday, 2 December 2019, 16:36:32 GMT, comstock_friend <jfriend314@...> wrote:


Guenther Paul wrote:
Nov 28   #102143  

"Why would one  waist all the this time to convert. I bean in machining over 50 years never had a chuck come of in reverse. Yes i machined in reverse many times never had a problem. The chuck was installed properly."

My SB 13" came from the factory with a D1-4 camlock. Chucks on this size lathe are starting to get heavy. Starting the threads of a heavy chuck on a threaded spindle can get to be a pain. Much easier to mount and switch on the more modern mounts. Additionally, the heavier chucks have much more inertia than the little guys on something like a 9" or 10" South Bend, so more danger if instant reversed. Then there's the issue with stuck chucks on threaded spindles, damaged threads, poor registers, etc, etc...

Best reason though is Webb's comment "all my other working lathes have L00 spindles.  Rather than buying more chucks, I decided to convert this Heavy Ten over to L00 for uniformity"

YMMV

John


Re: Heavy Ten conversion to L00

comstock_friend
 

Guenther Paul wrote:
Nov 28   

"Why would one  waist all the this time to convert. I bean in machining over 50 years never had a chuck come of in reverse. Yes i machined in reverse many times never had a problem. The chuck was installed properly."

My SB 13" came from the factory with a D1-4 camlock. Chucks on this size lathe are starting to get heavy. Starting the threads of a heavy chuck on a threaded spindle can get to be a pain. Much easier to mount and switch on the more modern mounts. Additionally, the heavier chucks have much more inertia than the little guys on something like a 9" or 10" South Bend, so more danger if instant reversed. Then there's the issue with stuck chucks on threaded spindles, damaged threads, poor registers, etc, etc...

Best reason though is Webb's comment "all my other working lathes have L00 spindles.  Rather than buying more chucks, I decided to convert this Heavy Ten over to L00 for uniformity"

YMMV

John

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