On Dec 10, 2019, at 9:01 PM, John Dammeyer <johnd@...> wrote:



How I wish I could do knurls that nice.

John

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of wlw19958
Sent: December-10-19 7:48 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Fooling Around in the Shop

 

Hi There,

There hasn't been much posted for awhile so I thought
I would show what I've been doing. 

Over the weekend, I made the depth screw for my threading attachment.

<image001.jpg>

When I got it, the screw was too big in diameter.  After a little research, I discovered
that the threading stop for the 9 inch and 10K.  I had an NOS one I bought back in the
1980's.

<image002.jpg>

(you can see the "too big" screw at the top of the picture).
I measured the 9 inch/10K screw and made a copy.  I made
a few cosmetic changes to the head to make it look more like
the style of the bigger one.

<image003.png>

One of the changes was to use a 45° diamond knurls instead of the 30° ones.
(They are a little more South Bend-like). 

The other thing I did was to make a replacement oil tube for the one that was
broken off in the reversing gear tumbler.  I measured the one in the reversing
tumbler I borrowed from another lathe and bought some heavy walled (.065")
260 brass tubing.  I already had a 5/16 x 32 tpi die. to thread it.  I drilled the
other end out to 1/4" so I could drive a Gits oiler into it. 

<image004.png>

<image005.png>

I also repaired the broken gear bearing journal.  I took some pics with my cell phone
but they didn't come out good but I do have one of the completed journal assembly.

<image006.png>

Originally, the threaded end had broken off so I cut the nub off just at the undercut
behind the threads, drilled and tapped it, threaded in a new section (using 1144
steel).  Then I drilled and cross-pinned the insert so it won't come out.

<image007.png>

(If you look careful, you can make out the outline of the pin). 

Now I have the original reversing tumbler assembly back in my lathe (and it runs
quieter than the other one)!

So, my lathe may not be the "prettiest" lathe, but it pleases me.  Thanks for letting
me share my small activities.

Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb

John,

I haven't knurled anything for years and haven't thought that much about the topic for about the same time.  The recent conversations triggered me to do a little online research into knurling techniques and I found the attached.  The pitch diameter & depth of knurl info might help you in getting to a finished product with a really nice appearance.

Thanks,

George H. Meinschein, P.E.

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC

150 Brittany Drive

Freehold, NJ 07728-1500

Direct Dial: 732-409-0778

Cell: 732-580-1736

Fax: 732-358-0369

www.meinscheinengineering.com

How I wish I could do knurls that nice.

John

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of wlw19958
Sent: December-10-19 7:48 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Fooling Around in the Shop

 

Hi There,

There hasn't been much posted for awhile so I thought
I would show what I've been doing. 

Over the weekend, I made the depth screw for my threading attachment.




When I got it, the screw was too big in diameter.  After a little research, I discovered
that the threading stop for the 9 inch and 10K.  I had an NOS one I bought back in the
1980's.



(you can see the "too big" screw at the top of the picture).
I measured the 9 inch/10K screw and made a copy.  I made
a few cosmetic changes to the head to make it look more like
the style of the bigger one.



One of the changes was to use a 45° diamond knurls instead of the 30° ones.
(They are a little more South Bend-like). 

The other thing I did was to make a replacement oil tube for the one that was
broken off in the reversing gear tumbler.  I measured the one in the reversing
tumbler I borrowed from another lathe and bought some heavy walled (.065")
260 brass tubing.  I already had a 5/16 x 32 tpi die. to thread it.  I drilled the
other end out to 1/4" so I could drive a Gits oiler into it. 






I also repaired the broken gear bearing journal.  I took some pics with my cell phone
but they didn't come out good but I do have one of the completed journal assembly.



Originally, the threaded end had broken off so I cut the nub off just at the undercut
behind the threads, drilled and tapped it, threaded in a new section (using 1144
steel).  Then I drilled and cross-pinned the insert so it won't come out.



(If you look careful, you can make out the outline of the pin). 

Now I have the original reversing tumbler assembly back in my lathe (and it runs
quieter than the other one)!

So, my lathe may not be the "prettiest" lathe, but it pleases me.  Thanks for letting
me share my small activities.

Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb

I've always thought the diamond pattern was totally hip and very professional looking. Not to mention that it provides a better grip with my beat up hands and fingers these days as I'm getting older.  Good PDF George! 

Roger

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:58 AM, ww_big_al

<arknack@...> wrote:

Nice document. Hadn’t seen that one.

Al

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> On Behalf Of George Meinschein
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 11:14 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Fooling Around in the Shop

 

John,

I haven't knurled anything for years and haven't thought that much about the topic for about the same time.  The recent conversations triggered me to do a little online research into knurling techniques and I found the attached.  The pitch diameter & depth of knurl info might help you in getting to a finished product with a really nice appearance.

Thanks,

George H. Meinschein, P.E.

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC

150 Brittany Drive

Freehold, NJ 07728-1500

Direct Dial: 732-409-0778

Cell: 732-580-1736

Fax: 732-358-0369

www.meinscheinengineering.com

On 12/10/2019 11:58 PM, John Dammeyer wrote:

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:58 AM, ww_big_al

<arknack@...> wrote:

Nice document. Hadn’t seen that one.

Al

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> On Behalf Of George Meinschein
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 11:14 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Fooling Around in the Shop

 

John,

I haven't knurled anything for years and haven't thought that much about the topic for about the same time.  The recent conversations triggered me to do a little online research into knurling techniques and I found the attached.  The pitch diameter & depth of knurl info might help you in getting to a finished product with a really nice appearance.

Thanks,

George H. Meinschein, P.E.

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC

150 Brittany Drive

Freehold, NJ 07728-1500

Direct Dial: 732-409-0778

Cell: 732-580-1736

Fax: 732-358-0369

www.meinscheinengineering.com

On 12/10/2019 11:58 PM, John Dammeyer wrote:

John,

I haven't knurled anything for years and haven't thought that much about the topic for about the same time.  The recent conversations triggered me to do a little online research into knurling techniques and I found the attached.  The pitch diameter & depth of knurl info might help you in getting to a finished product with a really nice appearance.

Thanks,

George H. Meinschein, P.E.

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC

150 Brittany Drive

Freehold, NJ 07728-1500

Direct Dial: 732-409-0778

Cell: 732-580-1736

Fax: 732-358-0369

www.meinscheinengineering.com

How I wish I could do knurls that nice.

John

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of wlw19958
Sent: December-10-19 7:48 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Fooling Around in the Shop

 

Hi There,

There hasn't been much posted for awhile so I thought
I would show what I've been doing. 

Over the weekend, I made the depth screw for my threading attachment.




When I got it, the screw was too big in diameter.  After a little research, I discovered
that the threading stop for the 9 inch and 10K.  I had an NOS one I bought back in the
1980's.



(you can see the "too big" screw at the top of the picture).
I measured the 9 inch/10K screw and made a copy.  I made
a few cosmetic changes to the head to make it look more like
the style of the bigger one.



One of the changes was to use a 45° diamond knurls instead of the 30° ones.
(They are a little more South Bend-like). 

The other thing I did was to make a replacement oil tube for the one that was
broken off in the reversing gear tumbler.  I measured the one in the reversing
tumbler I borrowed from another lathe and bought some heavy walled (.065")
260 brass tubing.  I already had a 5/16 x 32 tpi die. to thread it.  I drilled the
other end out to 1/4" so I could drive a Gits oiler into it. 






I also repaired the broken gear bearing journal.  I took some pics with my cell phone
but they didn't come out good but I do have one of the completed journal assembly.



Originally, the threaded end had broken off so I cut the nub off just at the undercut
behind the threads, drilled and tapped it, threaded in a new section (using 1144
steel).  Then I drilled and cross-pinned the insert so it won't come out.



(If you look careful, you can make out the outline of the pin). 

Now I have the original reversing tumbler assembly back in my lathe (and it runs
quieter than the other one)!

So, my lathe may not be the "prettiest" lathe, but it pleases me.  Thanks for letting
me share my small activities.

Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> On Behalf Of wlw19958
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 6:35 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Fooling Around in the Shop

Hi There,

Thanks for the compliments!  I use a scissors type knurling tool. 
The "secret" is to use plenty of oil.  I mean, Plenty!  I Have a pistol
type pump oil gun and I am squirting oil over the knurling wheels
all the time I'm knurling to flush away the chips that come off.  I also
reverse the spindle rotation now and then too.

The latest task was to make a copy of the knurled thumb screws for
a steady rest.



The lower one is the original and the upper one is my copy.  Mine was
made from 1144 Stressproof steel.  I started with 1/2" rod and the finished
product comes out .497" in diameter.  The original is slightly larger (measures
.520").  The pitch and angle of the knurls look right (mine being new, has 
sharper diamonds).

Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb

Hi There,

There hasn't been much posted for awhile so I thought
I would show what I've been doing. 

Over the weekend, I made the depth screw for my threading attachment.




When I got it, the screw was too big in diameter.  After a little research, I discovered
that the threading stop for the 9 inch and 10K.  I had an NOS one I bought back in the
1980's.



(you can see the "too big" screw at the top of the picture).
I measured the 9 inch/10K screw and made a copy.  I made
a few cosmetic changes to the head to make it look more like
the style of the bigger one.



One of the changes was to use a 45° diamond knurls instead of the 30° ones.
(They are a little more South Bend-like). 

The other thing I did was to make a replacement oil tube for the one that was
broken off in the reversing gear tumbler.  I measured the one in the reversing
tumbler I borrowed from another lathe and bought some heavy walled (.065")
260 brass tubing.  I already had a 5/16 x 32 tpi die. to thread it.  I drilled the
other end out to 1/4" so I could drive a Gits oiler into it. 






I also repaired the broken gear bearing journal.  I took some pics with my cell phone
but they didn't come out good but I do have one of the completed journal assembly.



Originally, the threaded end had broken off so I cut the nub off just at the undercut
behind the threads, drilled and tapped it, threaded in a new section (using 1144
steel).  Then I drilled and cross-pinned the insert so it won't come out.



(If you look careful, you can make out the outline of the pin). 

Now I have the original reversing tumbler assembly back in my lathe (and it runs
quieter than the other one)!

So, my lathe may not be the "prettiest" lathe, but it pleases me.  Thanks for letting
me share my small activities.

Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb

On Dec 10, 2019, at 10:55 PM, Phillip Rankin <phillip.rankin1964@...> wrote:



nice work.

Thank you, Mike...er, animal. To do otherwise is unconscionable.

I have a theory, using the term in its basic meaning as a logical construct that accounts for a set of known data. That theory is that when those in power are known to be dishonest and to skirt or to even defy the law, not to mention common ethical norms, then the common folk lose their incentive to be honest and ethical in their daily lives.

This theory sort of formed itself out of about a decade of observations of the city of Chicago and the state government in Springfield. My brother once remarked to me that after several years residence in the city, he had concluded that the only member of the city board of aldermen who might be honest was his own alderman, but then that man had been indicted on federal charges--the only kind that ever happen in Illinois--for corruption that very day.

There are many honest and ethical people in Illinois and even in Chicago, but the incidence of meeting people who are less inclined to be on the up-and-up seems to me to be higher in that geographic area than has been my experience in other parts of the country.

My 2 cents.

Dave

David W. Pennington
Denver, Colorado

815-382-1994

On Friday, December 6, 2019, 10:46:08 AM MST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

        that is honorable , I  was raised & trained that same way

        animal

On 12/6/2019 7:04 AM, david pennington via Groups.Io wrote:

Exactly!

I was somewhat new to this part of my career and was shocked at the attitude, the open discussion, and the agreement. It prompted me to start a personal list of folks I would not work together with in the future. We were employed by the same agency.

David W. Pennington
Denver, Colorado

815-382-1994

On Friday, December 6, 2019, 7:42:19 AM MST, Payson <egreene104@...> wrote:

you mean the "don't kill the job," not the "do a great job, under budget, and hope for a pat on the back, and more work!"

Payson.

Exactly!

I was somewhat new to this part of my career and was shocked at the attitude, the open discussion, and the agreement. It prompted me to start a personal list of folks I would not work together with in the future. We were employed by the same agency.

David W. Pennington
Denver, Colorado

815-382-1994

On Friday, December 6, 2019, 7:42:19 AM MST, Payson <egreene104@...> wrote:

you mean the "don't kill the job," not the "do a great job, under budget, and hope for a pat on the back, and more work!"

Payson.