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Re: Making (Modifying) A Collet Closer (Draw Bar) for My L00 Heavy Ten

Steven Schlegel
 

Nice work.  I am trying to figure out how to use 5C collets on my 9C (1949 vintage) when I get it going again.  There ought to be some way….

 

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From: wlw19958
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 8:55 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Making (Modifying) A Collet Closer (Draw Bar) for My L00 Heavy Ten

 

Hi There,

Now that my conversion over to L00 is finished, I needed a collet
closer that fit.  I had in my collection of stuff a collet closer for a
SBL 13" and I decided to shorten it.  Before anyone gets upset,
I will tell you that the threads in the end were stripped out and
hence it wasn't usable.

I mounted the spindle adapter I have and measured from the
back of the spindle to the back of the adapter and came up with
13-5/16" and I decided to reduce this to 13-1/4" to give a little
clearance.  I mounted the SBL 13 closer in the lathe and marked
off the place to cut.





I cut off 5-1/2" to get down to 13-1/4".  The threading went well except when I moved
the saddle and cross slide out of the way to test a collet in the threads.  I inadvertently 
bumped into the right hand leadscrew support with the threading dial and it jumped
a tooth.  This caused all sorts of consternation and the air was blue with exclamations!
I was able to pick-up the thread again and continued with the threading. 

I got it so that 90% of my collets (mostly Hardinge) collet would screw on but I had
recently gotten some hex collets that would not go on.  I figured the hand ground
bit I was using wasn't a perfect 60° and/or not set up at the correct angle. 

So, I decided to look for a threading boring bar that used inserts.  I found one on
Amazon with 10 inserts but it was only a 10mm bar and I worried about rigidity.
Still, most of the thread was already cut and all I needed was to make sure the
thread form was correct.  It arrived yesterday and after re-mounting the closer
( had removed it to do other work) and spending some "quality time" picking up
the thread again, I was able to chase the thread.

All I can say is I like that little threading boring bar!  The inserts are sharp and
chips came out cleanly cut.  It did take about 8 passes without changing the
setting to get it to make a pass without getting some swarf.  After which, all but
one collet would thread on easily.  The last one would thread on but took some
effort to get it on.  So I took a couple more passes and then there was no more
undue resistance to threading on.  Here is a pic of the finished threading.



Here is my compound set-up (if you look closely, you can see where
I welded up the front of the compound with nickel welding rod to
rebuild the area that got chewed-up by previous owners).



The last thing I need to do is make a new handwheel for it.  For the short term,
I borrowed the hand wheel from an SBL 10R collet closer.



Thanks for looking!
-Blue Chips-
Webb

 


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

Payson
 

I agree David, but I find now that continually reaching can cause animosity from people who are complacent.
Best regards,

Payson.
Green 10K undermount.


Re: 9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks

carbure2003
 

Thanks on the hint on oil loss of oil in the rear bearing. My headstock is leaking slowly Nd I have never found where oil was going I have to dismantle my 9A for a full clean up sometimes this winter and I will take opportunity to inspect this route. It may be a porosity in the casting at the bottom of the hole. (Takes about a month to get empty)
 
 
with regards to inspecting the hole, take a small angled mirror in order to see what is in there.  I would not be surprised the wick spring was damaged in a spindle maintenance. In or to get the wick back in place at proper height, a piece of metal or wood could have been inserted in the hole, raising what remained of the wick to proper height.
 
Guy Cadrin


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "wlw19958" <wlw-19958@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 18:08:13 -0800

Hi There,

Is your 9A a bench top model (back drive) or a cabinet model (underdrive)?
Either way, there shouldn't be a difference between the front and rear wicks.
I have been inside at least a dozen different ones and this is the first time I
have ever heard of this situation. 

A wick that has been "clipped off" at spring level is usually from someone
installing the spindle without compressing the wick and using the skewers 
to hold them down.  I'm with carbure2003; It sounds like something is in the
well interfering with the springs ability to be compressed (maybe a piece of
old wick spring).

Use a piece of wire or something and measure the depth of the wells (front
and back) and see how much they differ.  If they are really different, you can
cut some of the coils out of the bottom of the spring so that it will compress
enough to allow the spindle to be installed.  As long as the springs raises the
wick high enough to make good contact with the bearing journal, you should
be fine. 

I once had a late model 10K (Korean made) cabinet (underdrive) model and
the rear bearing was always loosing its oil.  I found that when they drilled the
well, they went a smidgen too far and just nicked the hole for the reversing 
tumbler pivot.  I cleaned it up with solvent and compressed air and using a
heat gun, I dripped a drop of JB Weld epoxy into the well to seal the hole.

Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb



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Re: 9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks

wlw19958
 

Hi There,

Is your 9A a bench top model (back drive) or a cabinet model (underdrive)?
Either way, there shouldn't be a difference between the front and rear wicks.
I have been inside at least a dozen different ones and this is the first time I
have ever heard of this situation. 

A wick that has been "clipped off" at spring level is usually from someone
installing the spindle without compressing the wick and using the skewers 
to hold them down.  I'm with carbure2003; It sounds like something is in the
well interfering with the springs ability to be compressed (maybe a piece of
old wick spring).

Use a piece of wire or something and measure the depth of the wells (front
and back) and see how much they differ.  If they are really different, you can
cut some of the coils out of the bottom of the spring so that it will compress
enough to allow the spindle to be installed.  As long as the springs raises the
wick high enough to make good contact with the bearing journal, you should
be fine. 

I once had a late model 10K (Korean made) cabinet (underdrive) model and
the rear bearing was always loosing its oil.  I found that when they drilled the
well, they went a smidgen too far and just nicked the hole for the reversing 
tumbler pivot.  I cleaned it up with solvent and compressed air and using a
heat gun, I dripped a drop of JB Weld epoxy into the well to seal the hole.

Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: 9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks

jonwoellhaf
 

Yes, the hole is empty.
 
I wonder if early models of the 9A used different length wicks. Mine is a 1948.
 
However, the very low resolution 9A parts list PDF I have shows the same part. Strangely, many of its pages have different dates. The (apparent) page 2 (date unreadable) is sandwiched between pages dated 12-1-44 and 9-1-44.
 
Jan (Yan)
 

From: carbure2003
Sent: December 5, 2019 16:37
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks
 
Did you check if the hole is empty? There could be something that should not be there in the hole?
 
usually, holes are drilled to same depth. There are two wick lenght depending of headstock models, but I have never seen a headstock with two different hole depth
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "jonwoellhaf" <jonwoellhaf@...>
To: <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] 9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 16:24:08 -0700

Hi, all.
 
I started assembling my 1948 9A’s headstock the other day, and immediately encountered a problem.
 
The left-hand wick pushed easily down into its hole and I had no trouble inserting a wire to hold it down.
 
The right-hand wick, however, could only be made flush with the bearing by using a lot of force, and could not be lowered enough to be captured by a wire as the left-hand one was.
 
I looked at the wicks that were in place when I removed the spindle. The left-hand one was identical to the new one, but on the right-hand one the felt had apparently been trimmed down to the top of the spring. Or, perhaps, it had worn down that far?
 
I am amazed the spindle is still pristine!
 
What’s your experience? Should I shorten the spring so the right-hand felt has about the same pressure on the spindle as the left-hand one does?
 
Thanks,
 
Jan (Yan)


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Re: 9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks

carbure2003
 

Did you check if the hole is empty? There could be something that should not be there in the hole?
 
usually, holes are drilled to same depth. There are two wick lenght depending of headstock models, but I have never seen a headstock with two different hole depth
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "jonwoellhaf" <jonwoellhaf@...>
To: <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] 9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 16:24:08 -0700

Hi, all.
 
I started assembling my 1948 9A’s headstock the other day, and immediately encountered a problem.
 
The left-hand wick pushed easily down into its hole and I had no trouble inserting a wire to hold it down.
 
The right-hand wick, however, could only be made flush with the bearing by using a lot of force, and could not be lowered enough to be captured by a wire as the left-hand one was.
 
I looked at the wicks that were in place when I removed the spindle. The left-hand one was identical to the new one, but on the right-hand one the felt had apparently been trimmed down to the top of the spring. Or, perhaps, it had worn down that far?
 
I am amazed the spindle is still pristine!
 
What’s your experience? Should I shorten the spring so the right-hand felt has about the same pressure on the spindle as the left-hand one does?
 
Thanks,
 
Jan (Yan)


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9A Spring-loaded Spindle Oil Wicks

jonwoellhaf
 

Hi, all.
 
I started assembling my 1948 9A’s headstock the other day, and immediately encountered a problem.
 
The left-hand wick pushed easily down into its hole and I had no trouble inserting a wire to hold it down.
 
The right-hand wick, however, could only be made flush with the bearing by using a lot of force, and could not be lowered enough to be captured by a wire as the left-hand one was.
 
I looked at the wicks that were in place when I removed the spindle. The left-hand one was identical to the new one, but on the right-hand one the felt had apparently been trimmed down to the top of the spring. Or, perhaps, it had worn down that far?
 
I am amazed the spindle is still pristine!
 
What’s your experience? Should I shorten the spring so the right-hand felt has about the same pressure on the spindle as the left-hand one does?
 
Thanks,
 
Jan (Yan)


Homemade 5C Collet draw tube for SB 13"

comstock_friend
 

Like Webb, I also had to come up with a way to close 5C collets on my 13". I have a Royal lever closer but find the manual wheel type draw tube much easier on onesie twosies. For a handwheel I used a scooter wheel; it is almost identical to the wheel on my SB 9" draw tube! I had a beat up old tube, massaged the threads to work, cut to length and made an aluminum hub. I cut the scooter hub out with a hole saw and bored to size. The bearing is an extra SB 9" thrust bearing!


Re: Pictures of L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom

david pennington
 

I had no trouble seeing the pics, John.

It would be a fantasy to think I could add that lathe to my shop, but it sure does look nice.

Dave

David W. Pennington
Denver, Colorado
815-382-1994


On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 10:07:44 AM MST, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:


 

Here are some pictures for the whole group.  If anyone is interested please contact me off-group and I will respond directly to you.

 

Thanks

John


Re: Pictures of L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom

DODGEM37@...
 

John;

Thanks for the pictures. I am interested and would like to take a look. Where are you located and when is good for you? Also do you have a way to load onto my pickup if I decide to buy it?

Denis

In a message dated 05-Dec-19 12:07:45 Eastern Standard Time, n2nu@... writes:

 

Here are some pictures for the whole group.  If anyone is interested please contact me off-group and I will respond directly to you.

 

Thanks

John


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

Paul Sadowski
 

John,

 

I tried to email you direct but got a failure notice.

 

If you have some photos please email.

I presently have a 10K but may be interested in upgrading.

 

I am located in NJ.

 

Thanks,

 

Paul Sadowski

psarms@...


Re: Making (Modifying) A Collet Closer (Draw Bar) for My L00 Heavy Ten

Ray De Jong
 

Very nice account and the photos to show the work. I enjoyed this as we don't often see the work of the group; also you 'repurposed an otherwise hard to salvage piece. Good work
Thanks
Ray

On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 8:55:47 AM PST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:


Hi There,

Now that my conversion over to L00 is finished, I needed a collet
closer that fit.  I had in my collection of stuff a collet closer for a
SBL 13" and I decided to shorten it.  Before anyone gets upset,
I will tell you that the threads in the end were stripped out and
hence it wasn't usable.

I mounted the spindle adapter I have and measured from the
back of the spindle to the back of the adapter and came up with
13-5/16" and I decided to reduce this to 13-1/4" to give a little
clearance.  I mounted the SBL 13 closer in the lathe and marked
off the place to cut.





I cut off 5-1/2" to get down to 13-1/4".  The threading went well except when I moved
the saddle and cross slide out of the way to test a collet in the threads.  I inadvertently 
bumped into the right hand leadscrew support with the threading dial and it jumped
a tooth.  This caused all sorts of consternation and the air was blue with exclamations!
I was able to pick-up the thread again and continued with the threading. 

I got it so that 90% of my collets (mostly Hardinge) collet would screw on but I had
recently gotten some hex collets that would not go on.  I figured the hand ground
bit I was using wasn't a perfect 60° and/or not set up at the correct angle. 

So, I decided to look for a threading boring bar that used inserts.  I found one on
Amazon with 10 inserts but it was only a 10mm bar and I worried about rigidity.
Still, most of the thread was already cut and all I needed was to make sure the
thread form was correct.  It arrived yesterday and after re-mounting the closer
( had removed it to do other work) and spending some "quality time" picking up
the thread again, I was able to chase the thread.

All I can say is I like that little threading boring bar!  The inserts are sharp and
chips came out cleanly cut.  It did take about 8 passes without changing the
setting to get it to make a pass without getting some swarf.  After which, all but
one collet would thread on easily.  The last one would thread on but took some
effort to get it on.  So I took a couple more passes and then there was no more
undue resistance to threading on.  Here is a pic of the finished threading.



Here is my compound set-up (if you look closely, you can see where
I welded up the front of the compound with nickel welding rod to
rebuild the area that got chewed-up by previous owners).



The last thing I need to do is make a new handwheel for it.  For the short term,
I borrowed the hand wheel from an SBL 10R collet closer.



Thanks for looking!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

John Fischer
 

Well I tried but I am having all sorts of problems posting pictures to the list…

 

If there is something I need to do to make them go (size or something?) let me know and I will try again…

 

Regards

John

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of douglas gubner via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2019 10:05 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

 

can you post photos

 

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 02:53:56 PM EST, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:

 

 

All

 

Speaking of L00

 

I have a 1972 Heavy 10 3 ½ foot bed toolroom lathe that I would like to find a new loving owner for.  I got it from my employer when they went out of business and it has been sitting – I feel guilty when I walk by that it is not in use.

 

Catalog is CLK8187, it has flame hardened ways, L00 spindle, taper attachment(standard on toolroom) and 3 phase motor.  I have not fired it up in a little while, but it was all working when I got it from my company – I used it for light machine work and it originally came out of a college shop.  Condition is very nice with original finish.  I have some goodies to go with it, Aloris AXA toolpost and some holders, I can probably come up with a chuck or two.  I have some 5C collets and a closer for a threaded spindle machine, so it needs a longer piece machined to work with the L00.  I meant to do this right at the time the company shut down abruptly.  Probably a few other things as well, I need to take some pictures and take stock of everything.

 

I am located in central NJ.  If you contact me off list, I would be happy to send pictures and talk to you more about it.  I have not listed this machine anywhere, I am coming to this group first

 

Regards

John

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Heavy Ten conversion to L00

 

Looks much better than mine!

 

I probably have room for it and my other two lathes, the shaper, and a bunch of other stuff, but I also have too much stuff for the space I'm trying to fit it into. :)

 

Ten pounds of crap in a 5# bag, so to speak. I do hope it looks as good as yours, and functions well when I'm done. I've wanted a South Bend lathe since my senior year of high school. Had it a bit over a year, but hit some snags in working on it. Trying to get those mostly ironed out this next week or so.

 

It spent some time in a leaky barn before my friend decided he wasn't going to have time to fix it and everything else he's working on. The current SB equivalent lists for $10k. I got it for less than a tenth of that, and some sweat equity. The tailstock, saddle, and two 5c collet holders have been derusted. Need some citristrip, painting, and reassembly, and a good temp & humidity-controlled storage while I deal with the bed, two gearboxes, headstock, taper attachment, and the separate turret tailstock. 

 

Yes. I have been known to bite off more than I can chew..😁

 

Bill in OKC

 

 

 

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

 

 

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, 03:52:32 PM CST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi There,

As promised, here are a couple of pics of my disreputable lathe.




Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Pictures of L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom

John Fischer
 

 

Here are some pictures for the whole group.  If anyone is interested please contact me off-group and I will respond directly to you.

 

Thanks

John


Re: Making (Modifying) A Collet Closer (Draw Bar) for My L00 Heavy Ten

Jim_B
 

Good Job. 
Thanks for Posting. 
I wish more members would post tasks. 

Sent from my MacBook
Jim B.






--
Jim B


Making (Modifying) A Collet Closer (Draw Bar) for My L00 Heavy Ten

wlw19958
 

Hi There,

Now that my conversion over to L00 is finished, I needed a collet
closer that fit.  I had in my collection of stuff a collet closer for a
SBL 13" and I decided to shorten it.  Before anyone gets upset,
I will tell you that the threads in the end were stripped out and
hence it wasn't usable.

I mounted the spindle adapter I have and measured from the
back of the spindle to the back of the adapter and came up with
13-5/16" and I decided to reduce this to 13-1/4" to give a little
clearance.  I mounted the SBL 13 closer in the lathe and marked
off the place to cut.





I cut off 5-1/2" to get down to 13-1/4".  The threading went well except when I moved
the saddle and cross slide out of the way to test a collet in the threads.  I inadvertently 
bumped into the right hand leadscrew support with the threading dial and it jumped
a tooth.  This caused all sorts of consternation and the air was blue with exclamations!
I was able to pick-up the thread again and continued with the threading. 

I got it so that 90% of my collets (mostly Hardinge) collet would screw on but I had
recently gotten some hex collets that would not go on.  I figured the hand ground
bit I was using wasn't a perfect 60° and/or not set up at the correct angle. 

So, I decided to look for a threading boring bar that used inserts.  I found one on
Amazon with 10 inserts but it was only a 10mm bar and I worried about rigidity.
Still, most of the thread was already cut and all I needed was to make sure the
thread form was correct.  It arrived yesterday and after re-mounting the closer
( had removed it to do other work) and spending some "quality time" picking up
the thread again, I was able to chase the thread.

All I can say is I like that little threading boring bar!  The inserts are sharp and
chips came out cleanly cut.  It did take about 8 passes without changing the
setting to get it to make a pass without getting some swarf.  After which, all but
one collet would thread on easily.  The last one would thread on but took some
effort to get it on.  So I took a couple more passes and then there was no more
undue resistance to threading on.  Here is a pic of the finished threading.



Here is my compound set-up (if you look closely, you can see where
I welded up the front of the compound with nickel welding rod to
rebuild the area that got chewed-up by previous owners).



The last thing I need to do is make a new handwheel for it.  For the short term,
I borrowed the hand wheel from an SBL 10R collet closer.



Thanks for looking!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

douglas gubner
 

can you post photos

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 02:53:56 PM EST, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:


All

 

Speaking of L00

 

I have a 1972 Heavy 10 3 ½ foot bed toolroom lathe that I would like to find a new loving owner for.  I got it from my employer when they went out of business and it has been sitting – I feel guilty when I walk by that it is not in use.

 

Catalog is CLK8187, it has flame hardened ways, L00 spindle, taper attachment(standard on toolroom) and 3 phase motor.  I have not fired it up in a little while, but it was all working when I got it from my company – I used it for light machine work and it originally came out of a college shop.  Condition is very nice with original finish.  I have some goodies to go with it, Aloris AXA toolpost and some holders, I can probably come up with a chuck or two.  I have some 5C collets and a closer for a threaded spindle machine, so it needs a longer piece machined to work with the L00.  I meant to do this right at the time the company shut down abruptly.  Probably a few other things as well, I need to take some pictures and take stock of everything.

 

I am located in central NJ.  If you contact me off list, I would be happy to send pictures and talk to you more about it.  I have not listed this machine anywhere, I am coming to this group first

 

Regards

John

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Heavy Ten conversion to L00

 

Looks much better than mine!

 

I probably have room for it and my other two lathes, the shaper, and a bunch of other stuff, but I also have too much stuff for the space I'm trying to fit it into. :)

 

Ten pounds of crap in a 5# bag, so to speak. I do hope it looks as good as yours, and functions well when I'm done. I've wanted a South Bend lathe since my senior year of high school. Had it a bit over a year, but hit some snags in working on it. Trying to get those mostly ironed out this next week or so.

 

It spent some time in a leaky barn before my friend decided he wasn't going to have time to fix it and everything else he's working on. The current SB equivalent lists for $10k. I got it for less than a tenth of that, and some sweat equity. The tailstock, saddle, and two 5c collet holders have been derusted. Need some citristrip, painting, and reassembly, and a good temp & humidity-controlled storage while I deal with the bed, two gearboxes, headstock, taper attachment, and the separate turret tailstock. 

 

Yes. I have been known to bite off more than I can chew..😁

 

Bill in OKC

 

 

 

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

 

 

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, 03:52:32 PM CST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi There,

As promised, here are a couple of pics of my disreputable lathe.




Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

Bill in OKC too
 

I might have a hard time explaining to SWMBO why I need another SB Heavy 10L. Especially since I haven't finished restoring the one she bought me for Christmas last year. ;)

Admittedly it doesn't have the L00 chuck, but I do NOT want her thinking I'm not grateful!

Bill in OKC

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 3:02:05 PM CST, david pennington via Groups.Io <davidwpennington@...> wrote:


Love Heinlein!

When it comes to this lathe, I'm reminded of Goethe: "A man's reach should exceed his grasp."

Dave

David W. Pennington
Denver, Colorado
815-382-1994


On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 12:59:46 PM MST, Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:


Wish I could be in the market, but I couldn't afford a $150 Atlas/Craftsman 12" lathe in Colorado on one of my other groups today.

Wish you good luck finding it a good home!

Bill in OKC

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 1:53:57 PM CST, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:


All

 

Speaking of L00

 

I have a 1972 Heavy 10 3 ½ foot bed toolroom lathe that I would like to find a new loving owner for.  I got it from my employer when they went out of business and it has been sitting – I feel guilty when I walk by that it is not in use.

 

Catalog is CLK8187, it has flame hardened ways, L00 spindle, taper attachment(standard on toolroom) and 3 phase motor.  I have not fired it up in a little while, but it was all working when I got it from my company – I used it for light machine work and it originally came out of a college shop.  Condition is very nice with original finish.  I have some goodies to go with it, Aloris AXA toolpost and some holders, I can probably come up with a chuck or two.  I have some 5C collets and a closer for a threaded spindle machine, so it needs a longer piece machined to work with the L00.  I meant to do this right at the time the company shut down abruptly.  Probably a few other things as well, I need to take some pictures and take stock of everything.

 

I am located in central NJ.  If you contact me off list, I would be happy to send pictures and talk to you more about it.  I have not listed this machine anywhere, I am coming to this group first

 

Regards

John

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Heavy Ten conversion to L00

 

Looks much better than mine!

 

I probably have room for it and my other two lathes, the shaper, and a bunch of other stuff, but I also have too much stuff for the space I'm trying to fit it into. :)

 

Ten pounds of crap in a 5# bag, so to speak. I do hope it looks as good as yours, and functions well when I'm done. I've wanted a South Bend lathe since my senior year of high school. Had it a bit over a year, but hit some snags in working on it. Trying to get those mostly ironed out this next week or so.

 

It spent some time in a leaky barn before my friend decided he wasn't going to have time to fix it and everything else he's working on. The current SB equivalent lists for $10k. I got it for less than a tenth of that, and some sweat equity. The tailstock, saddle, and two 5c collet holders have been derusted. Need some citristrip, painting, and reassembly, and a good temp & humidity-controlled storage while I deal with the bed, two gearboxes, headstock, taper attachment, and the separate turret tailstock. 

 

Yes. I have been known to bite off more than I can chew..😁

 

Bill in OKC

 

 

 

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

 

 

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, 03:52:32 PM CST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi There,

As promised, here are a couple of pics of my disreputable lathe.




Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

david pennington
 

Love Heinlein!

When it comes to this lathe, I'm reminded of Goethe: "A man's reach should exceed his grasp."

Dave

David W. Pennington
Denver, Colorado
815-382-1994


On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 12:59:46 PM MST, Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:


Wish I could be in the market, but I couldn't afford a $150 Atlas/Craftsman 12" lathe in Colorado on one of my other groups today.

Wish you good luck finding it a good home!

Bill in OKC

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 1:53:57 PM CST, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:


All

 

Speaking of L00

 

I have a 1972 Heavy 10 3 ½ foot bed toolroom lathe that I would like to find a new loving owner for.  I got it from my employer when they went out of business and it has been sitting – I feel guilty when I walk by that it is not in use.

 

Catalog is CLK8187, it has flame hardened ways, L00 spindle, taper attachment(standard on toolroom) and 3 phase motor.  I have not fired it up in a little while, but it was all working when I got it from my company – I used it for light machine work and it originally came out of a college shop.  Condition is very nice with original finish.  I have some goodies to go with it, Aloris AXA toolpost and some holders, I can probably come up with a chuck or two.  I have some 5C collets and a closer for a threaded spindle machine, so it needs a longer piece machined to work with the L00.  I meant to do this right at the time the company shut down abruptly.  Probably a few other things as well, I need to take some pictures and take stock of everything.

 

I am located in central NJ.  If you contact me off list, I would be happy to send pictures and talk to you more about it.  I have not listed this machine anywhere, I am coming to this group first

 

Regards

John

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Heavy Ten conversion to L00

 

Looks much better than mine!

 

I probably have room for it and my other two lathes, the shaper, and a bunch of other stuff, but I also have too much stuff for the space I'm trying to fit it into. :)

 

Ten pounds of crap in a 5# bag, so to speak. I do hope it looks as good as yours, and functions well when I'm done. I've wanted a South Bend lathe since my senior year of high school. Had it a bit over a year, but hit some snags in working on it. Trying to get those mostly ironed out this next week or so.

 

It spent some time in a leaky barn before my friend decided he wasn't going to have time to fix it and everything else he's working on. The current SB equivalent lists for $10k. I got it for less than a tenth of that, and some sweat equity. The tailstock, saddle, and two 5c collet holders have been derusted. Need some citristrip, painting, and reassembly, and a good temp & humidity-controlled storage while I deal with the bed, two gearboxes, headstock, taper attachment, and the separate turret tailstock. 

 

Yes. I have been known to bite off more than I can chew..😁

 

Bill in OKC

 

 

 

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

 

 

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, 03:52:32 PM CST, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi There,

As promised, here are a couple of pics of my disreputable lathe.




Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: L00 Heavy 10 Toolroom for Sale

Bob Kellermann
 

On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:53 PM, John Fischer <n2nu@...> wrote:

a ship