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Re: Instruction Manual

Jim_B
 

HTRAL is in the files section. 
Actually it  very early copy. I have several later ones, SB tended to revise this paper frequently,  but have been reticent to post them due to copyright issues. However perhaps the time has come to do so. 

On this group of posts I have received, the following:

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On Jun 5, 2020, at 3:02 PM, milan.v.trcka@... wrote:

Since this is a South Bend lathe group, I am assuming that this may help - Although differing in details, principles hold no matter what lathe you may be interested in:

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/1617/3789.pdf

Google query "how to run a lathe" is an excellent start.

Milan

Jim B.





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Re: Instruction Manual

Milan Trcka
 

Since this is a South Bend lathe group, I am assuming that this may help - Although differing in details, principles hold no matter what lathe you may be interested in:

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/1617/3789.pdf

Google query "how to run a lathe" is an excellent start.

Milan


Re: Instruction Manual

Rogan Creswick
 

Also on Youtube:

 - Blondihacks has a good lathe skills series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY67-4BrEae9Ad91LPRIhcLJM9fO-HJyN

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:55 AM Jim Croyle <jjc4291@...> wrote:
Czech 

Try YouTube search TubalCain


On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 9:49 PM <abners@...> wrote:

Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get instructional videos and also tips in general?
Any videos?

Thanks


Re: Twin gear box

bill Tabor
 

Yes the lead screw stops turning with the split nut in open position. I have notice with a flash light if I put the second tumbler in any screw pitch thread and leave the first tumbler or the speed a-g tumbler out all 3 of my drive gears turn. When as I put the first lever into e or f speeds only the first 2 main drive gears turn the 3 stops as I dis engage first lever all 3 drive gears turn, Now when I say 3  drive gears the gears are pined in pairs so you have 3 pairs on the tree shaft and 3 on the drive shaft.
Only the first pair are keyed the other pairs free wheel. According to SB manual f and g drive gears are pined as a pair been thinking of pinning them to d and f gears though the manual don't show doing this. Sorry for not getting back to group but had a death in the family.


Re: Instruction Manual

Jim Croyle
 

Czech 

Try YouTube search TubalCain


On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 9:49 PM <abners@...> wrote:

Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get instructional videos and also tips in general?
Any videos?

Thanks


Re: Instruction Manual

glenn brooks
 

Search you tube for Tubalcane aka Mr. Pete.  Extensive list of instructional videos.  Also  Keith Rucker.  

So Many more, so hard to keep track of them all.

I usually search by a specific machining topic, and them sample a few of the videos to see which one gives me what I want to know...

Glenn 


On Jun 4, 2020, at 8:32 PM, siufung chan via groups.io <Wbcor@...> wrote:

1000 might be an under estimate :) 


-----Original Message-----
From: George Meinschein <bustedguns@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jun 4, 2020 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Instruction Manual

I think you'll find plenty of good info on YouTube. There's several series of rebuilds/restorations. If you're looking for more info on tooling details, speeds, feed rates, lubricants, etc., I suggest getting some older machine shop textbooks either online downloads or eBay.  You could also ask specific questions here as there's probably 1,000 years of combined knowledge & experience just in this group. 

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500

Email: george.meinschein@...
Direct Dial: 732-409-0778
Cell: 732-580-1736
Fax: 732-358-0369
www.meinscheinengineering.com

   

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 10:49 PM <abners@...> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get instructional videos and also tips in general?
Any videos?
Thanks


Re: Instruction Manual

siufung chan
 

1000 might be an under estimate :) 


-----Original Message-----
From: George Meinschein <bustedguns@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jun 4, 2020 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Instruction Manual

I think you'll find plenty of good info on YouTube. There's several series of rebuilds/restorations. If you're looking for more info on tooling details, speeds, feed rates, lubricants, etc., I suggest getting some older machine shop textbooks either online downloads or eBay.  You could also ask specific questions here as there's probably 1,000 years of combined knowledge & experience just in this group. 

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500

Email: george.meinschein@...
Direct Dial: 732-409-0778
Cell: 732-580-1736
Fax: 732-358-0369
www.meinscheinengineering.com

   

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 10:49 PM <abners@...> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get instructional videos and also tips in general?
Any videos?
Thanks


Re: Instruction Manual

George Meinschein
 

I think you'll find plenty of good info on YouTube. There's several series of rebuilds/restorations. If you're looking for more info on tooling details, speeds, feed rates, lubricants, etc., I suggest getting some older machine shop textbooks either online downloads or eBay.  You could also ask specific questions here as there's probably 1,000 years of combined knowledge & experience just in this group. 

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500

Email: george.meinschein@...
Direct Dial: 732-409-0778
Cell: 732-580-1736
Fax: 732-358-0369
www.meinscheinengineering.com

   


On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 10:49 PM <abners@...> wrote:

Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get instructional videos and also tips in general?
Any videos?

Thanks


Re: Instruction Manual

Andrei
 

Youtube

Typos are courtesy of autocorrect.


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of abners@... <abners@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 10:47:37 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Instruction Manual
 

Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get instructional videos and also tips in general?
Any videos?

Thanks


Instruction Manual

abners@...
 

Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get instructional videos and also tips in general?
Any videos?

Thanks


Re: 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

siufung chan
 

I have a yearning for a foundry (and a forge etc.). I think you’re right it seems primal. 

Regards,
Bill

On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:33 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:



        thanks . I do have a 4x6 band saw & a vertical one , but there's just something bout a power hacksaw

        animal

On 6/1/2020 6:07 PM, John Dammeyer wrote:

There are just two on my web page.  The small thumbnail and then the bigger one when you click on it.  I was able to score a band saw on a bench height stand and outfeed table a number of years ago so the hacksaw wasn't needed anymore.

http://www.autoartisans.com/foundry.htm

Click on the small picture for the larger one.

 

Wasn't into taking pictures as much back then as I am now.

John

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of mike allen
Sent: June-01-20 5:17 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

 

        John , looks pretty cool ! do ya by chance have any pics of yer hacksaw ?

        thanks

        animal

On 6/1/2020 7:59 AM, John Dammeyer wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Changed 'rejected' to 'reconfigured']

For me it was stumbling onto a book at the library called how to build a lathe from scrap by Dave Gingery.  All I had was a tiny Unimat DB-200 and it was before the low cost 7x20 lathes started showing up.  So I built his gas fired foundry and added a small computer for electronic ignition and fan speed control. About 10 years ago when we switched from an oil fired home heating furnace to natural gas I reconfigured the Gingery Foundry to also run on natural gas.  It's like the table saw now.  Switch it on and use it.

 

To build the furnace I had to build his power hacksaw and slip roll.  An acquaintance with a larger lathe bored a draw bar hole through the middle of my Sears Craftsman 16" drill press spindle.  An XY vise made it possible to do simple milling with MT-3 based tools held now firmly held in the spindle.

 

The end result was here:

http://www.autoartisans.com/gingery/Gingery_ELS.jpg

And since I couldn't make gears yet I designed and built the Electronic Lead Screw controller.

 

Now I have a South Bend Heavy 10L.  Haven't used the gears on it for a number of years.  The tumble gear is in neutral and the gear select set in the dis-engaged position.  Spline ribbed belt drive so the whole thing is very quiet with a VFD on the motor. Haven't gotten around to powering the X axis yet.  The ELS works fine with only the carriage controlled. Prompts for cross slide motion.

 

Casting is a very primal hobby.  However the real challenge and work is in the pattern making.

 

John

 

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of benjithestupiddog via groups.io
Sent: June-01-20 12:53 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

 

John,

I'm a little envious of your work, I'd love to get into the casting side of things, but lack of space/time has so far prevented me from starting, some day maybe.

 


Re: 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

mike allen
 

        thanks . I do have a 4x6 band saw & a vertical one , but there's just something bout a power hacksaw

        animal

On 6/1/2020 6:07 PM, John Dammeyer wrote:

There are just two on my web page.  The small thumbnail and then the bigger one when you click on it.  I was able to score a band saw on a bench height stand and outfeed table a number of years ago so the hacksaw wasn't needed anymore.

http://www.autoartisans.com/foundry.htm

Click on the small picture for the larger one.

 

Wasn't into taking pictures as much back then as I am now.

John

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of mike allen
Sent: June-01-20 5:17 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

 

        John , looks pretty cool ! do ya by chance have any pics of yer hacksaw ?

        thanks

        animal

On 6/1/2020 7:59 AM, John Dammeyer wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Changed 'rejected' to 'reconfigured']

For me it was stumbling onto a book at the library called how to build a lathe from scrap by Dave Gingery.  All I had was a tiny Unimat DB-200 and it was before the low cost 7x20 lathes started showing up.  So I built his gas fired foundry and added a small computer for electronic ignition and fan speed control. About 10 years ago when we switched from an oil fired home heating furnace to natural gas I reconfigured the Gingery Foundry to also run on natural gas.  It's like the table saw now.  Switch it on and use it.

 

To build the furnace I had to build his power hacksaw and slip roll.  An acquaintance with a larger lathe bored a draw bar hole through the middle of my Sears Craftsman 16" drill press spindle.  An XY vise made it possible to do simple milling with MT-3 based tools held now firmly held in the spindle.

 

The end result was here:

http://www.autoartisans.com/gingery/Gingery_ELS.jpg

And since I couldn't make gears yet I designed and built the Electronic Lead Screw controller.

 

Now I have a South Bend Heavy 10L.  Haven't used the gears on it for a number of years.  The tumble gear is in neutral and the gear select set in the dis-engaged position.  Spline ribbed belt drive so the whole thing is very quiet with a VFD on the motor. Haven't gotten around to powering the X axis yet.  The ELS works fine with only the carriage controlled. Prompts for cross slide motion.

 

Casting is a very primal hobby.  However the real challenge and work is in the pattern making.

 

John

 

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of benjithestupiddog via groups.io
Sent: June-01-20 12:53 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

 

John,

I'm a little envious of your work, I'd love to get into the casting side of things, but lack of space/time has so far prevented me from starting, some day maybe.

 


Re: 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

John Dammeyer
 

There are just two on my web page.  The small thumbnail and then the bigger one when you click on it.  I was able to score a band saw on a bench height stand and outfeed table a number of years ago so the hacksaw wasn't needed anymore.

http://www.autoartisans.com/foundry.htm

Click on the small picture for the larger one.

 

Wasn't into taking pictures as much back then as I am now.

John

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of mike allen
Sent: June-01-20 5:17 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

 

        John , looks pretty cool ! do ya by chance have any pics of yer hacksaw ?

        thanks

        animal

On 6/1/2020 7:59 AM, John Dammeyer wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Changed 'rejected' to 'reconfigured']

For me it was stumbling onto a book at the library called how to build a lathe from scrap by Dave Gingery.  All I had was a tiny Unimat DB-200 and it was before the low cost 7x20 lathes started showing up.  So I built his gas fired foundry and added a small computer for electronic ignition and fan speed control. About 10 years ago when we switched from an oil fired home heating furnace to natural gas I reconfigured the Gingery Foundry to also run on natural gas.  It's like the table saw now.  Switch it on and use it.

 

To build the furnace I had to build his power hacksaw and slip roll.  An acquaintance with a larger lathe bored a draw bar hole through the middle of my Sears Craftsman 16" drill press spindle.  An XY vise made it possible to do simple milling with MT-3 based tools held now firmly held in the spindle.

 

The end result was here:

http://www.autoartisans.com/gingery/Gingery_ELS.jpg

And since I couldn't make gears yet I designed and built the Electronic Lead Screw controller.

 

Now I have a South Bend Heavy 10L.  Haven't used the gears on it for a number of years.  The tumble gear is in neutral and the gear select set in the dis-engaged position.  Spline ribbed belt drive so the whole thing is very quiet with a VFD on the motor. Haven't gotten around to powering the X axis yet.  The ELS works fine with only the carriage controlled. Prompts for cross slide motion.

 

Casting is a very primal hobby.  However the real challenge and work is in the pattern making.

 

John

 

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of benjithestupiddog via groups.io
Sent: June-01-20 12:53 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

 

John,

I'm a little envious of your work, I'd love to get into the casting side of things, but lack of space/time has so far prevented me from starting, some day maybe.

 


Re: Compound and cross slide handle nut

houdini
 

based on the three south bends i've owned, i agree with John. 

Paul

On Monday, June 1, 2020, 12:23:39 PM EDT, comstock_friend <jfriend314@...> wrote:


The only left hand threads on a South Bend that I know (other than ACME lead screws) is the screw in the power feed 'star' wheel. The compound and cross slide handles are right handed.

John


Re: 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

mike allen
 

        John , looks pretty cool ! do ya by chance have any pics of yer hacksaw ?

        thanks

        animal

On 6/1/2020 7:59 AM, John Dammeyer wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Changed 'rejected' to 'reconfigured']

For me it was stumbling onto a book at the library called how to build a lathe from scrap by Dave Gingery.  All I had was a tiny Unimat DB-200 and it was before the low cost 7x20 lathes started showing up.  So I built his gas fired foundry and added a small computer for electronic ignition and fan speed control. About 10 years ago when we switched from an oil fired home heating furnace to natural gas I reconfigured the Gingery Foundry to also run on natural gas.  It's like the table saw now.  Switch it on and use it.

 

To build the furnace I had to build his power hacksaw and slip roll.  An acquaintance with a larger lathe bored a draw bar hole through the middle of my Sears Craftsman 16" drill press spindle.  An XY vise made it possible to do simple milling with MT-3 based tools held now firmly held in the spindle.

 

The end result was here:

http://www.autoartisans.com/gingery/Gingery_ELS.jpg

And since I couldn't make gears yet I designed and built the Electronic Lead Screw controller.

 

Now I have a South Bend Heavy 10L.  Haven't used the gears on it for a number of years.  The tumble gear is in neutral and the gear select set in the dis-engaged position.  Spline ribbed belt drive so the whole thing is very quiet with a VFD on the motor. Haven't gotten around to powering the X axis yet.  The ELS works fine with only the carriage controlled. Prompts for cross slide motion.

 

Casting is a very primal hobby.  However the real challenge and work is in the pattern making.

 

John

 

 

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of benjithestupiddog via groups.io
Sent: June-01-20 12:53 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

 

John,

I'm a little envious of your work, I'd love to get into the casting side of things, but lack of space/time has so far prevented me from starting, some day maybe.

 


Re: Compound and cross slide handle nut

mike allen
 

        I don't remember them being left handed when I did my 9A

        animal

On 6/1/2020 4:25 AM, ww_big_al wrote:

May be a silly question but could it be a left hand thread?

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> On Behalf Of carbure2003
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 6:00 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Compound and cross slide handle nut

 

Try with an old flat head screwdriver where you will grind a slot, and a pair of wise grips

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Matt R" <mrissmiller@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Compound and cross slide handle nut
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 16:33:19 -0700

I am having a heck of a time trying to get the nut off of the cross slide handle. Does anyone have a trick? I made a spanner tool, and promptly broke it. I tried a small torch and some penetrating oil, to no effect. Tried a brass drift to try spinning it out. All I did was bugger up the brass drift. My last option is to put it in my other lathe and cut it out. That is not totally out of the question. Nor is making a new screw for the compound EXCEPT that currently my Sheldon 11" is out of commission. I am trying to get everything on the SB 16/24 replaced and painted, at least on the top end so I can use it. 



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Re: Compound and cross slide handle nut

Sam
 

There's a good chance that the end of the screw has been peened over.

Give it as much filing as you dare


On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 4:54 PM Matt R <mrissmiller@...> wrote:
I know the cross slide is right hand so I expext the compound is also.


Re: Compound and cross slide handle nut

Matt R
 

I know the cross slide is right hand so I expext the compound is also.


Re: 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

John Dammeyer
 

Actually an auto oiler could be part of the enhancement program. Here's a photo of the R&D platform. Instead of an 8 bit PIC18F I'm using a 32 bit PIC32. The one on the board isn't the actual processor since it doesn't have a QEI module for quadrature encoders but the software all ported over nicely with only a week or so of work. Just a couple of tiny bugs to deal with yet.

This test setup plugs in place of the PIC18F processor. The final add on board will have additional connectors and also plug into the header to add additional I/O to the DB-25. And hopefully this version will support quadrature encoders and provide much better closed loop speed and position control.

I'm in the middle of my mill to CNC conversion and then I'll go back to the Lathe Conversion. Time to add a motor to the back end of the 10L cross slide just past the taper attachment. I've already changed the Charge Pump output to be PWM to drive this little module
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33021792064.html
which will connect to my GS-1 VFD. And then I can do constant SFM while facing.

John


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of druid_noibn via groups.io
Sent: June-01-20 9:21 AM
To: southbendlathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9A motor/drum switch Mounting

Hi John,

That is a work of art - very nice. Now to add an auto-oiler...to the ELS system <smile>

Be well, be safe,
John aka DBN


Re: Compound and cross slide handle nut

comstock_friend
 

The only left hand threads on a South Bend that I know (other than ACME lead screws) is the screw in the power feed 'star' wheel. The compound and cross slide handles are right handed.

John