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Re: taper attachment intallation

David Pidgeon <dave@...>

#23286

--Just reading your post about the taper attachment. I just yesterday 
put one on my SB 9 Model A. I have waited years to get one. I have no 
instruction with it and would greatly like to get one that is written 
about in this post. I would very happy to pay you for a copy so I can 
put it with my lathe. I don't care if you want to email it or I can 
send you my mail address. Many thanks.

David Pidgeon




- In southbendlathe@..., "rigrac" <rfitzpatrick4@c...> 
wrote:
Ed:

Taper Attachment was aligned following an elaborate factory set-up
instruction sheet and babbit is then poured into holes in top of the bracket
( washers were put on either side if the bracket to stop babbit from pouring
right through ) I believe I have the set -up instructions if you want a copy
either by Email ( could be quite a large file) or by snail mail if you want
to contact me off group.

Ron



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Re: taper attachment intallation

rigrac <rfitzpatrick4@...>

#23271

ED:

Another thing that you might try to adjust the misalignment if you still
want to see if sleeve is close, is to adjust the small screw with the jam
nut on it that is screwed into the bottom of the clamp for that bracket.
This will allow for some movement up and down but not in and out. In and out
is preset by the "V" that is machined in the clamp.

Ron




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Re: taper attachment intallation

rigrac <rfitzpatrick4@...>

#23283

Ed:

Someone has made this sleeve and installed it in the Collet Rack Clamp (
which is what you have but is the same as the taper attachment clamp without
the pipe tapped hole in it as someone else already alluded to ) . When you
see the size of the hole in the Collet Rack Clamp as compared to the size of
the Draw Bar itself you think it needs a bushing which was not the way South
Bend supplied it but made perfect sense to machine one and install as the
lathe owner.

Ron



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Re: taper attachment intallation

RichD <cmsteam@...>

#23278

For ref, here is a collet rack set complete.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=92086&item=3862096802&rd=1
RichD

Re: taper attachment intallation

Rick Kruger <krugerr@...>

#23270

Ed,

Not sure if you have the right clamp, but I agree that
it shouldn't have a steel sleeve, that the taper
attachment shaft is aligned in the right clamp with
babbit.  I mounted a TA on a 9" and did the babbit
thing.  Perhaps that sleeve is mounted in the clamp
with babbit and you can melt it to remove the clamp. 
If not, there are other ways to get it out or machine
it out to make room.  If it is a babbit mount, there
should be a pour hole on the top/center surface above
the shaft hole but it not be visible without striping
the paint.  

Rick

--- Ed Beers <sreeb@...> wrote:


---------------------------------
I'm trying to install a taper attachment and I'm not
sure how the bed
clamp is supposed to be aligned.  In the attached
photo:

1) I'm assuming that this bed clamp, which was also
supporting a collet
rack, is intended to capture the rod on the right end
of the taper
attachment.

2) This bed clamp has a steel sleeve in it that is the
right diameter to
slip on the rod but alignment is way off.  The steel
sleeve doesn't have
the "feel" of a factory part.

3) The taper attachment is located on the saddle using
dowel pins and
aligned with the crossslide screw so I sure that the
problem is with the
bed clamp.

I'm thinking that I am either missing some part or
else the large hole
in the bed clamp should be filled with babbit rather
than a machined
sleeve.

Can anyone tell me how this is supposed to work.  

Ed




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Re: Drill bit Recommendation Wanted

kc1fp

#23277

I second that, anything USA made. I use cobalt drills for general use
but it all depends on what you are drilling. TiN (gold color)
lubricates and hardens the tool, TiCN (grey color) is harder and lubes
better but I have only found it on carbide drills and mills. For my
portable drill I like the flatted shank drills (3 flats).    JP


--- In southbendlathe@..., RichD <cmsteam@s...> wrote:
Anything usa made. 
I understand they are all made in a NC plant and brand marked there.
RichD

trozzo51 wrote:

Can the group help me out in choosing a premium set of drill bits. Best
Type, supplier link and best price.

Re: taper attachment intallation

rigrac <rfitzpatrick4@...>

#23269

Ed:

Taper Attachment was aligned following an elaborate factory set-up
instruction sheet and babbit is then poured into holes in top of the bracket
( washers were put on either side if the bracket to stop babbit from pouring
right through ) I believe I have the set -up instructions if you want a copy
either by Email ( could be quite a large file) or by snail mail if you want
to contact me off group.

Ron



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Re: Drill bit Recommendation Wanted

RichD <cmsteam@...>

#23268

Anything usa made. 
I understand they are all made in a NC plant and brand marked there.
RichD

trozzo51 wrote:

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Can the group help me out in choosing a premium set of drill bits.  Best
Type, supplier link and best price.

Re: taper attachment intallation

RichD <cmsteam@...>

#23282

Ed,
Yep, that's a rack clamp. May have been sleeved to adapt to a taper att,
but not on that lathe.
What does go in the hole is the C ring holder for the collet handwheel closer.
RichD

Ed Beers wrote:

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I'm trying to install a taper attachment and I'm not sure how the bed
clamp is supposed to be aligned.  In the attached photo:

1) I'm assuming that this bed clamp, which was also supporting a collet
rack, is intended to capture the rod on the right end of the taper
attachment.

2) This bed clamp has a steel sleeve in it that is the right diameter to
slip on the rod but alignment is way off.  The steel sleeve doesn't have
the "feel" of a factory part.

3) The taper attachment is located on the saddle using dowel pins and
aligned with the crossslide screw so I sure that the problem is with the
bed clamp.

I'm thinking that I am either missing some part or else the large hole
in the bed clamp should be filled with babbit rather than a machined
sleeve.

Can anyone tell me how this is supposed to work.

Ed

Re: Price of Corssfeed screw????

Russ <russeller_@...>

#23281

got a few of those honey doo's myself. :)

was going to mention that you were taking care of my backlash problem for me but didn't know if you
wanted the advertising or not. Sure looks like there is a market for you skills.

Merry Christmas Bruce,

Ed

--- On Thu 12/23, william B. Mispel < misltoe2@... > wrote:

From: william B. Mispel [mailto: misltoe2@...]
To: southbendlathe@...
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:21:38 -0500
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Price of Corssfeed screw????

Hi Ed,
Your parts and check arrived this afternoon.
I have to finish up a grinding job for Precitech.
I hope to get to your job right after New Years.
I may get started before ,depends on what my
wife has in store for me . The honey doos.

Their prices are scary.Aren't they?
They want more for their parts than you pay
for a whole machine.
Bruce

At 01:23 PM 12/23/2004 -0500, you wrote:

I priced the assembly from Rose and LeBlond. The compound cross feed assembly which is the screw, nut, feed handle and
a larger graduated collar ran just under $600.00 for a 9A with the taper attachment. There are several sizes of cross feed screws
so be sure your getting the right one.

--- On Thu 12/23, Gregory DeKeyzer < gregdeke@... > wrote:

From: Gregory DeKeyzer [mailto: gregdeke@...]
To: southbendlathe@...
Cc: gregdeke@...
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:35:44 -0600
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Price of Corssfeed screw????

I'm not going to venture a guess on that one, but you might want to contact Plaza Machinery, (they're online - somewhere). I just bought a new crossfeed screw and nut for a heavy 10 with a taper attachment. Very good quality, about $200 for the two.
----- Original Message -----
From: trucks1956
To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 8:24 AM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Price of Corssfeed screw????

Hi guys, I am dealing with a guy on a tailstock, compound, and base
for a SBL 16"He says that the crossfeed screw is in pretty good
shape, and mine is badly worn.He wants me to make him an offer on
the screw, and the dial, and the handle.(Mine has the wrong one on
it)I was wondering how much it is worth?Thanks in advance, and Merry
CHRISTmas!!!!GOD bless!
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Re: Price of Crossfeed screw????

paul benoit <pdkbb@...>

#23267

They did some gear repairs for me (replacing broken teeth) and the work was excellent. It was also cheaper than I expected.

Paul

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Sent: 12/24/2004 9:18:38 PM

Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Price of Crossfeed screw????

Has anybody tried this outfit? http://www.millermachineandfabrication.com/products.htm Looks very reasonable. Roy In a message dated 12/23/2004 8:30:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: >Darn, that must mean the nuts cost $1,575. Seriously, check with Plaza. I didn't see any cross feed screws listed for non-taper or for the compound, but the one for the taper attachment was excellent quality. > >Best wishes to all, > >Greg >> >> From: "rigrac" >> Date: 2004/12/23 Thu PM 01:25:51 EST >> To: >> Subject: [southbendlathe] Price of Crossfeed screw???? >> >> Last time I priced a Crossfeed Screw and Nut for a 13" from Rose when she was still at South Bend I believe Regular Screw, Jam Nuts On End and Crossfeed Nut With Retaining Bolt $1400. Hardened Screw, Jam Nuts On End and Crossfeed Nut With Retaining Bolt $1775. $200 would be a steal. Ended up buying Acme Rod and pinning to old screw and making nut at work with their $200 Acme Tap. Cost <$20. Results--- .003 Backlash. >> >> Ron >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gregory DeKeyzer >> To: southbendlathe@... >> Cc: Gregory DeKeyzer >> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Price of Corssfeed screw???? >> >> >> I'm not going to venture a guess on that one, but you might want to contact Plaza Machinery, (they're online - somewhere). I just bought a new crossfeed screw and nut for a heavy 10 with a taper attachment. Very good quality, about $200 for the two. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: trucks1956 >> To: southbendlathe@... >> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 8:24 AM >> Subject: [southbendlathe] Price of Corssfeed screw???? >> >> >> >> Hi guys, I am dealing with a guy on a tailstock, compound, and base >> for a SBL 16"He says that the crossfeed screw is in pretty good >> shape, and mine is badly worn.He wants me to make him an offer on >> the screw, and the dial, and the handle.(Mine has the wrong one on >> it)I was wondering how much it is worth?Thanks in advance, and Merry >> CHRISTmas!!!!GOD bless!

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Re: Crossfeed slop measurement???

Russ <russeller_@...>

#23265

I purchased a video that has some interesting old clips on it about running a lathe. It's on a vcr and Im set up to transfer vcr to dvd so if your interested in a copy and are willing to pay for the media/shipping
let me know and I'll make some copies.

--- On Fri 12/24, trucks1956 < trucks1956@... > wrote:

From: trucks1956 [mailto: trucks1956@...]
To: southbendlathe@...
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:31:49 -0000
Subject: [southbendlathe] Crossfeed slop measurement???

Hi guys, I have been reading about .003 and so on measurements of play in cross feeds.My 16" has about 3/4 of a turn of play.How are you guys getting the measurements?I am NOT a machinist.I just bought the old lathe a couple of years ago, and I'm kinda like the dog that caught the car?Any help would be appreciated.I also would like any help on books or manuals on how to use a lathe.I own a copy of How to run a lathe, and it is good.I would like MORE! maybe a video? Thanks for any help.

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Re: Drill bit Recommendation Wanted

BOB WRIGHT

#23273

I use www.ohiodrill.com quality drills made in the US. They have a 50 
dollar order. Order the fractional, letter and number and have a nice 
set...Bob
--- In southbendlathe@..., "trozzo51" <fetdc@c...> wrote:

Can the group help me out in choosing a premium set of drill bits.  Best 
Type, supplier link and best price.

Re: looking for part

RichD <cmsteam@...>

#23257

Ron,
be more specific.
A 9" model A?
Top drive or bottom?
There are several diff "cone covers" dep't on model year.
RichD

dphobbies wrote:

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I need a cone pulley cover for a Model A.  Any leads appreceiated.

Ron Sebastian

Re: taper attachment intallation

ed beers

#23258

Chris,

The photo attach didn't seem to work so I put a photo on my website:

http://beers.nu/taper1.jpg

I also have a 10L.  Does your taper clamp have the vertical post?

Ed

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--- In southbendlathe@..., "Chris" <cdm337257@h...> wrote:

Ed, On my 10L the bed clamps for the taper attachment and the collet 
rack look the same. The difference is that the taper clamp is filled 
with babbit to align the shaft from the taper attachment. The hole 
in the collet clamp is big enough for the rod that holds the 
handwheel closer. I think what you have is the collet rack clamp and 
not the taper clamp. Chris.

I'm thinking that I am either missing some part or else the large hole
in the bed clamp should be filled with babbit rather than a machined
sleeve.

Can anyone tell me how this is supposed to work.  

Ed

Drill bit Recommendation Wanted

trozzo51 <fetdc@...>

#23256

Can the group help me out in choosing a premium set of drill bits.  Best 
Type, supplier link and best price.

Re: Parts in Canada or Washington

Peter Merriam <pmerriam@...>

#23276

The SB10k lathe takes 6K collets and MT3 collets. 6K are found occasionally on Ebay and maybe with US used equip. dealers. MT3 collets are sold by Busy Bee Tools in Canada.
Hope this helps.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "carsonturncliff" <carsonturncliff@...>
To: <southbendlathe@...>
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 11:49 AM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Parts in Canada or Washington

Can anyone advise me if there is a supplier for new/used SB 10K
stuff in Canada or Washington state? Specifically I am looking for a
collet set for my 10K?

Thanks...Carson (British Columbia)

Re: Parts in Canada or Washington

BOB WRIGHT

#23284

Which collets are you using? The 6k for the 10K or the ones for the 
9". Do you have a collet closer?...Bob
--- In southbendlathe@..., "carsonturncliff" 
<carsonturncliff@y...> wrote:

Can anyone advise me if there is a supplier for new/used SB 10K 
stuff in Canada or Washington state? Specifically I am looking for a 
collet set for my 10K? 

Thanks...Carson (British Columbia)

Re: taper attachment intallation

RichD <cmsteam@...>

#23274

Ed,
the rack clamp and taper att clamp castings are identical, except that
the taper att casting is filled with lead or babbit to fit the stub on
the taper att end. The hole where the rack would bolt should go instead
is the place that holds the crosslide nut screw hole cap pin.
If your casting has two empty 1/4" holes on top and a setscew in the rear,
that is a rack clamp.
RichD

Ed Beers wrote:

Show quoted text

I'm trying to install a taper attachment and I'm not sure how the bed
clamp is supposed to be aligned.  In the attached photo:

1) I'm assuming that this bed clamp, which was also supporting a collet
rack, is intended to capture the rod on the right end of the taper
attachment.

2) This bed clamp has a steel sleeve in it that is the right diameter to
slip on the rod but alignment is way off.  The steel sleeve doesn't have
the "feel" of a factory part.

3) The taper attachment is located on the saddle using dowel pins and
aligned with the crossslide screw so I sure that the problem is with the
bed clamp.

I'm thinking that I am either missing some part or else the large hole
in the bed clamp should be filled with babbit rather than a machined
sleeve.

Can anyone tell me how this is supposed to work.

Ed

Re: 9 inch spindle sleeve wanted-

BOB WRIGHT

#23255

I lost a couple of posts too to a few groups. They must be in 
cyberspace...Bob
--- In southbendlathe@..., "bkfan2001" <bkfan2001@y...> 
wrote:

Guess my earlier reply didn't post, anyway here it is again. This